How much truth is there to this statement?

step_aside_butch_ · 2020-12-14T15:55:26+00:00

The part you're leaving out is Tinder and online dating overall. This is where the majority of the imbalance originates from. And yes, absolutely, the advantages for women with OLD does lead to exactly what the OP says. Tinder proves this everyday.

MasterTeacher123 · 2020-12-14T11:08:03+00:00

I’ve known really good looking men in my life. They mostly fuck really good looking women. Every now and then smash a average of below Average chick with a crazy one night stand or drunk moment? Yeah but for the most part they deal with people in their league. Just like every one else.

GullibleClassic1 · 2020-12-14T06:45:22+00:00

The real question is, how do so many ppd users know the intimate details of the sex and romantic lives of complete strangers to make broad generalizations about who's fucking who, the attractiveness of the people they are fucking or refusing to date etc.

GridReXX · 2020-12-14T14:15:13+00:00

Men here forget how often women silently choose being alone over relationships they don’t want everyday.

She was going to choose to cuddle with her pillow over a relationship she doesn’t desire anyway.

majani · 2020-12-14T06:14:21+00:00

I really don't get comments like in the op. I see non hot people couples together all the time, like have any of you ever step foot in a walmart? Or even just gone outside in public and looked at the people holding hands together?

SuspiciousLeopard662 · 2020-12-14T08:21:51+00:00

It is much harder as a non hot man because non hot women can get pumped and dumped by the hot guys and have absolutely zero interest in men in their lane.

I would say this is not true, because the league in question is judged from the male point of view. The male point of view is often times under-estimating what woman's league really is.

Men, tend to have their view of real life women distorted by porn and instagram models. If one only considers women hot if they look close to an IG model, they are massively underestimating leagues.

PAThrowaway59 · 2020-12-14T14:58:16+00:00

It's very true. The only way this would stop is if attractive guys raised their standards, but that's not something we can control.

Romantic_Asexual · 2020-12-14T17:30:14+00:00

I think that argument is very demeaning towards both women and men. It assumes women are just luckier men and every single one of us WANTS to be used for sex.

I hate that argument. I'm sorry, but being treated as a flesh light and nothing more sounds like hell. As a Christian girl, I believe sex is supposed to be enjoyable and intimate, and between two married people. So it means nothing to me that I can hook up whenever.

To me, being able to hook up whenever is just an indication of how far the world has fallen into sin.

SeemedGood · 2020-12-14T10:16:39+00:00

There are significantly greater proportions of the “less attractive” women in my social groups who are not in relationships but want to be in them than there are of the “more attractive” women. But those of the “less attractive” women who do not abstain for religious reasons (and even a few who profess to) are at least as sexually active as the “more attractive” women, probably more. This difference diminishes with age.

2020-12-14T19:39:36+00:00

Bluepillers on here will discredit any study about male sexlessness citing we're reading too much into it and at the same time dismiss every anecdote we have for their own about their one ugly friend who has a harem of sex-starved nymphos on his speed dial. I think the issue isn't what's true or not, the issue is whose worldview is more dependent on illusions being maintained.

rubbooyuri · 2020-12-14T08:19:02+00:00

Ugly/less attractive women are not fucking chad.

How much dumpster diving and sexing do you think hot guys are doing? Hot guys fuck hot women, and maybe an occasional foray into the “above average”

Women are just also more likely to go without; they’re not punching up en masse like red pill claims

LittyKitsune · 2020-12-14T07:31:05+00:00

The idea that only the hottest of the hottest guys are having casual sex/P&D is so weird to me. At my college basically everybody who isn't religious gets in on it, it's just a matter of what circle(s) they sleep around in.

Bandit174 · 2020-12-14T14:00:54+00:00

Its more true for casual sex than relationships. Most average and even slightly below average guys can get into a relationship. Where it becomes more skewed is with casual sex.

mimblezimble · 2020-12-14T06:25:38+00:00

If you think is a observable phenomenon

Yes.

what do you think can be done about it?

Nothing.

Ultimately, it will not inure to their benefit. In the meanwhile, just ignore it. Their strategy is not suitable for successfully raising children. So, let the natural Darwinian elimination process run its course. We have to give the laws of nature time to regain the upper hand. They always do. Avoid at all cost funding governments that sponsor this behaviour, and you should be fine. If it does not cost you one dollar, why would you even care? There are so many other women on the globe that the misbehaving ones are not even making an impact.

801735 · 2020-12-14T10:49:05+00:00

There's a stick for every broom out there.

But the dynamic, despite being unchanged, is changed and changing.

I think there are and there will be more "surprised" females out there once they "finally decide to settle down", finding they're deemed simply "not good enough anymore".

The hormones eventually stop fucking with our heads eventually and we start using the right one for thinking.

If you think is a observable phenomenon what do you think can be done about it?

I do think it's more observable than before. And I think it's time for "empowered women" to solve their problem, not us "mansplainers".

throw-away-1709 · 2020-12-14T14:29:59+00:00

I'd never put out my di#@ for ugly or fattie or crazy.

If men would have some minumum atandards we'd not have landwhale plaque on OLD.

thedeadpill · 2020-12-14T14:41:11+00:00

If you think is a observable phenomenon what do you think can be done about it?

If it's true (not saying it is), there's nothing that can be done about it. Like, what are we going to do? "Educate" sub 5/10 women about their place in the world?

That'd be an incredible absurdity, even for this place.

decoy88 · 2020-12-14T18:49:15+00:00

It’s technology.

Social media and more importantly Online Dating apps are the only spaces with this issue. Everywhere else is fine.

Shut-in nerds have always struggled. The problem is that there are more shut-in nerds today.

Since I’m against sex slavery, one idea would be enforcing restrictions on how dating apps operate.

have strict restrictions on the amount of each that can sign up or be active on the dating app at any one time. Like you sign up, but your “window of usage”is cyclical. A signee can only use the app every other week for example. That way, keeping a healthy gender ratio in the app at all times without locking people out forever.
very harsh ELO score technology
Could even spin it as better options for women who, despite there being much less men available, are fed up of being overwhelmed with the thirst on typical online dating

Pros: more men have a chance of being seen, more women can concentrate without constant pressure to reply to too many matches

Cons: corporations won’t be incentivised to make these as the current setup looks to gain more profit.

HOWEVER, in-app purchases like booster packs to lengthen the “active window” could be introduced, as well as ads.

If marketed right as the “more pleasant experience for women” and “higher guarantee rate for men”, it might just be able to be pulled off.

spacechicken1990 · 2020-12-14T06:18:08+00:00

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LooseIndication · 2020-12-14T12:11:30+00:00

There is plenty of evidence.

Any remaining doubt? Hear this woman which works as a dating agent, telling it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6ONHDmDD8s

Be a regular at a night club, and you will see always a small number of alphas taking the women.

It is the experience of most men in school: the alphas take most of the women.

Join a PUA group, and read the experiences of most men there.

Go to any dating application/website: you will see that a small number of men get all the dates.

JimBeamAndCoke2016 · 2020-12-14T07:18:08+00:00

Yes it's true, and it's a result of online dating and social media.

What can be done about it? Apart from shutting down the internet, nothing at all. Things will get worse for average to ugly men.

spacechicken1990 · 2020-12-14T06:24:33+00:00

I giggle at the thought of it.

Irl most couples I know are equally attractive or unattractive.

Spyro7x3 · 2020-12-14T21:13:22+00:00

I think it’s true generally because women actually value freedom and options more than men do.

In their later years when they’re tired or concerned about the future they settle down

REEE_XD · 2020-12-14T21:30:38+00:00

I mean I saw that one dating coach flat out say that’s how some women date and then they end up on the road to dying single. She talks about how she gained expectations from dating all these men who were really just playing her and she was only with them cause they turned her on and had money.

moneygang4life · 2020-12-15T15:41:31+00:00

Its kinda true tbh maybe not that dramatically but yes on some level

bobisagirl · 2020-12-14T08:03:36+00:00

The crux of this argument is simply ‘unattractive women would rather be sexually used and abandoned by hot men than date unattractive guys’, and it’s not true. Demonstrably untrue. I think dudes who make this argument DRASTICALLY over-estimate how pleasurable sexual hook-ups are for women, even with attractive guys. It is not fun to be used for sex and then ghosted. Like, it really sucks. And the guys who do that shit don’t tend to be good lovers either (shock news to dudes, big dicks don’t always mean good sex). Red pillers go on and on about the cock carousel and beta bucks when the reality is that most women in their twenties are sorting themselves out and aren’t ready to shackle themselves to some dude who expects them to cook and clean (sorry I mean ‘be a traditional wife’). That doesn’t make them degenerates.

And for gods sake keep away from things like ‘black pill science’. As a scientist I think it gave me an aneurysm.

Sufficient-Ad-3586 · 2020-12-14T06:43:29+00:00

There may be some truth to it,

I’m a guy, I place myself at a 6 (could be a 7 if I lost weight) and if I got a 10 I’d probably get spoiled and think I could bag 10s all the time

PickleLine · 2020-12-14T07:51:29+00:00

Slut shaming women is the solution. It will have a progressive effect on the market. With slut shaming, women will want to maximize the chance of relationship after having sex because of the huge negative consequences of being a slut. The top guys are the least likely to commit, so women will choose to have less sex with the top guys.

Progressivism is awesome. Support slut shaming :)

bigdaveyl · 2020-12-14T20:46:59+00:00

In the end I don't know how much hyperbole plays into your statement, but women do have an easier time in general than men.

It does seem like women, even ones that are less attractive or have other issues seem to have less issues getting attention from men than the opposite.

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Title	How much truth is there to this statement?
Author	SuspiciousLeopard662
Upvotes	18
Comments	273
Date	December 14, 2020 6:05 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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