Men aren't good enough as they are

KayRay1994 · 2025-09-28T15:17:51+00:00

I’ll add a little more to this - the only reason why women are perceived as “good enough as they are” is cause some men have no standards at all and will jump at any chance for a fuck, even if they have to pretend they’re fucking somebody else.

My point with this is to say that no human is entitled romantic love or sexual relations just by exiting, and the idea of “women can just exist and men will flock to them” is entirely the fault of the men who have no standards

TopShelfSnipes · 2025-09-28T11:30:06+00:00

This is part of modern life for everyone.

In general life is about growth.

Focusing on your "career" and wealth above all else is hollow. Prioritize being well rounded and find a woman who wants to go on that same journey with you where you both find each other physically attractive. Have fun, try new things.

Grinding out money at the cost of your youth, sanity, and personal freedom, thinking it gets you women, is a loser's game.

caption291 · 2025-09-28T21:31:17+00:00

That is just how it works in nature and society

Your statement is true because it's vague but it's invalid. In reality, one of the biggest differences between "in nature" and "in a human society" is the fact that humans heavily pushback against unfairness instead of just blindly accepting it.

Were never going to get totally rid of unfairness so your vague statement will pretty much always remain true in a vacuum but unsound in context.

Then there's the men who rebel against this narrative and go racing to the bottom... Men are reported to have higher degree of violence, assult, rape, murder, crime and suicide.

For the most part the men who engage in violence, rape, murder etc... are not the men rebelling against this narrative that they need to be better than the rest or they'll suffer...they are the men who don't have the tools to be better than everyone else in a "positive" way so they try to do it in a negative way. They aren't rebeling against your ideas, they are doing what your attempt at logic imply they should and if you were logically consistent you would justify their actions too on the basis that those things also happen in nature.

fucksiclepizza · 2025-09-28T11:07:17+00:00

No one is worthy of love and intimacy just for existing.

LoopyPro · 2025-09-28T10:58:27+00:00

Keep this in mind when "the patriarchy" is used as an argument for how unfair society is towards women.

RahLyt · 2025-09-28T15:01:17+00:00

Actually, I'd argue the opposite is true.

When men realize they are fine as they are is when they start to become more successful. Since their sense of self is not tied to performance or external metrics.

I think the next big challenge for men is to remove their attachment to women's validation.

jacare_o · 2025-09-28T11:07:53+00:00

But good enough for military conscription, be expected to work harder (higher physical requirements) for the same salary (military, police, fire), and be pushed in to risky jobs with higher workplace deaths, I bet.

Worldly-Box6080 · 2025-09-28T11:20:31+00:00

This gotta be ragebait, don’t fall for it folks

bluestjuice · 2025-09-28T14:43:48+00:00

What you’re talking about here is a fundamental dichotomy of human existence: the yin/yang of life.

There is an ongoing, critical tension between the drive to pursue excellence and the need to truly accept the reality of each moment. Growth comes from the first. Contentment comes from the second. The great philosophers all speak to the importance of navigating this tension, practicing both aspects, and finding a balance between them.

Livid-Log7463 · 2025-09-28T20:31:58+00:00

Especially as far as women are concerned, you can’t even be the “best version of yourself” but you must change yourself entirely, that’s why in isn’t within every man’s capabilities to be attractive to a woman.

Redhotangelxxx · 2025-09-29T22:21:32+00:00

How are women good enough as they are and men are not? ...do you mean because men have lower standards for who they will sleep with?

Hot-Counter102 · 2025-09-28T10:54:34+00:00

More misandrist content being unchecked.

Outside_Memory5703 · 2025-09-28T14:26:21+00:00

Women arent worthy of love and intimacy just for existing

They have to decorate/prettify/arouse, fuck, birth, care and serve

liftandwhiff · 2025-09-28T10:58:00+00:00

Just woke up to this. 💤 I'm trying bro, I'm trying to be better

No-Rough-7390 · 2025-09-28T15:26:16+00:00

Men must become, women just are.

Also,

No woman owes men sex.

No man owes a woman a better life.

Best compromise we get.

Crime_Dawg · 2025-10-03T19:12:14+00:00

I'd argue that most men and most women aren't good enough. 90% of women are ugly / fat / both and think by existing, they deserve love. 90% of men are basically in the same boat.

Hisune · 2025-09-28T10:42:26+00:00

Idk if this is bait or you're just stupid

poffincase · 2025-09-28T17:41:04+00:00

lol what.. no one is entitled to love and intimacy for just existing. Why are you people like this... Entitlement for just being a man has gone to your head. You need to earn what you want. Those reasons you've listed in the last sentence is exactly why men need to stop acting entitled to these things. Their negative actions affect everyone.

Classic_Hippo3602 · 2025-09-28T10:47:08+00:00

Yeah, this is a biology thing. Because it is more energetically expensive and exhausting for a woman to reproduce, she will choose her partner a lot more carefully than a man who reproduces inexpensively. For her own well-being and that of the child she put her energy into, she must ensure her partner will have provide emotional and resource stability for them both. So, she is biologically and psychologically predisposed to find a man who will make that expense of energy (pregnancy, birthgiving, breastfeeding, and many years child upbrining) worthwhile for the rest of her and her childs life. So yeah, its not ideal to just "exist" when it is extremely energetically expensive to create people who "exist" as well as "exist" happily, healthily, and successfully. Why should a woman procreate with a man who cannot guarantee or signal that he will heavily contribute to making this happen if it is very energetically expensive for her? Its an evolutionary pattern and is the driving factor of natural selection.

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Training-Cook3507 · 2025-09-28T11:02:57+00:00

Thanks for this helpful insight.

TermAggravating8043 · 2025-09-28T11:31:51+00:00

It depends on the man snd what he wants from life snd what he’s prepared to do to get it.

If you just want to be a fat homeless bum, then yeah your a drain on society snd not a lot if people will have anything to do with you. And if you want to make yourself a good partner, it’s likely more people will have time for you

Gravel_Roads · 2025-09-28T11:32:13+00:00

This can’t really be argued with, because it’s a matter of opinion. I don’t consider myself or my male friends and family members to be “not good enough” but it’s true that you are free to think they are.

Gravel_Roads · 2025-09-28T11:32:32+00:00

This can’t really be argued with, because it’s a matter of opinion. I don’t consider myself or my male friends and family members to be “not good enough” but it’s true that you are free to think they are.

ThatBitchA · 2025-09-28T15:24:14+00:00

What does a man simply being himself mean?

Please describe this man.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2025-09-28T15:53:42+00:00

This reminds me of a quote from Don Draper

“You’re good, get better. Stop asking for things”

Alternative_Cod2280 · 2025-09-29T20:33:14+00:00

Because women and society are good enough themselves?

Nah men are only reacting accordingly to the shit the receive, why do more for people who aren't worth the effort, will demand always more and will complain no matter what?

YeaNobody · 2025-10-03T21:21:36+00:00

Shout this to the heavens.....meanwhile we still exist.

Razorbladekandyfan · 2025-12-22T14:09:19+00:00

Naaah.

Icy-Gene7565 · 2025-09-28T12:05:25+00:00

Yeah, Being at the top means climbing the ladder when you're a man.

The women will be there at the finish line, quite well dressed and happy to see you.

AussieLurker11 · 2025-09-28T10:43:26+00:00

Men need to earn their status and success, I completely agree. We didn't have intrinsic value as a man like women do, we need to earn where we get to, there's no excuse as a man to be lazy, unsuccessful, complacent etc. when at any moment, a more competent man can overtake you in the game of life.

Life is competition regardless of whether you believe it is or not, and if you decide to not play, that's okay, but other men will surpass you and achieve whatever you set out to without breaking a sweat, because they have the drive and discipline to do so that you lack.

If you're not looking to consistently better yourself you bring all of your lack of success on yourself.

Title	Men aren't good enough as they are
Author	Advanced-Ad8490
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Date	September 28, 2025 10:35 AM UTC (10 months ago)
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