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I don't even discuss it. Go on the date. Order what you like. At the end, I'm asking the waiter to split the check. It's not even a discussion. I've literally never had any girl make a fuss. If they did, I'd be glad I only wasted my evening on someone like that once.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/08/21 08:17 AM
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legbeard made me fucking lol
/r/PussyPassDenied14/07/21 03:19 PM
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I've found that the easiest way to avoid them is to literally just turn my back to them. Don't try to stare them down and out tough them. Just literally ignore them with every aspect of your being.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/06/21 02:44 AM
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There is nothing more devastating than the silent treatment. Those kind of people thrive on the attention and drama. Stooping to their level will accomplish nothing. Watching them shout themselves out of breath until they can no longer continue, and then you go back your normal conversation with someone else is the most brutal way to deal with them.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/06/21 03:05 PM
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Ah, the double standard old as time itself.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/06/21 07:32 AM
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Weird, yes. Wrong, no. What's weirder is so many people giving a shit about a marriage between two people they'll never meet.
/r/MensRights10/08/20 06:48 PM
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I was in pretty much the same exact boat when I was your age. I was around 23, almost 24, when I lost my virginity. It was mainly due to weight issues and always being bullied as a kid. I had terrible self-confidence and low self-esteem. Of course, I felt for a long time that it would never happen. I didn't even really try because I just felt like girls would never be interested in me. I was afraid I'd be bad at it. I'd seen the 40 Year Old Virgin. The girl I lost it to was someone I met through…
/r/seduction09/01/20 05:53 PM
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People who give a shit about your social media followers aren't worth knowing to begin with. Consider it the first step in weeding out assholes.
/r/seduction06/01/20 02:15 PM
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/r/seduction12/12/19 03:53 AM
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Yup. Like I said, I'm not hung up on it.
/r/seduction10/12/19 05:31 PM
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Yes, I enjoyed her company outside of sex. Part of the conversation we had through text Saturday was about why I was busy/what I was doing, so yes, she knew. We had both already said that we were looking forward to getting together again, so she knew that I wasn't avoiding her. She just got mad that I wouldn't make time for her when she wanted it.
/r/seduction10/12/19 01:52 PM
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You got it, chief
/r/seduction10/12/19 10:20 AM
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So, like, the literal definition of being a hypocrite. Glad we agree.
/r/seduction10/12/19 09:47 AM
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No, she doesn't owe me anything, but she had complained during our date about other guys who felt entitled to her time and were upset when she would decline to meet with them because of work, friends, etc... Then for her to be upset with me because I didn't want to meet her because I was busy felt a little hypocritical.
/r/seduction10/12/19 08:42 AM
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This is my favorite way of dealing with shit tests. Take them for their word then point out how ridiculous they're being.
/r/seduction16/11/19 01:00 PM
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But my mental health is down the shitter We can tell. It's not their fault they're attractive dudes, and it's not their fault that's how women tend to react. You can either say that it's unfair and you'll never do as well and give up, or you can work on your game. I'm a chubby dude with man tits, and I have very little trouble getting laid. We all have our own advantages and disadvantages. Maybe you think being a hot guy would be easier to get laid, and that may be true for the first time, but w…
/r/seduction29/10/19 08:54 AM
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Let me guess, your friend is a fit, attractive guy.
/r/seduction29/10/19 08:52 AM
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Exactly. I feel like there isn't any real content here anymore. Just the same bullshit over and over from "influencers" trying to get traffic.
/r/seduction01/08/19 01:49 PM
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I pretty much whole-heartedly agree. I went on a first date Saturday. She drove to my place, and I gave her a ride on my scooter to get lunch. After lunch, drove back, then walked around a park near my place. She still had an hour to kill before meeting a friend, so I invited her up to my apartment to check out my collection of cute socks. Literally. I've been cracking up for days since just thinking about it. One hundred percent doesn't matter what dumb reason you give to invite her up. Sitting…
/r/seduction20/05/19 04:53 PM
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So, the lesson is, spend lots of money on material goods to impress a woman enough to obligate her to continue dating you? I'm the biggest fuck boi on the planet, but fun dates don't mean anyone has to keep seeing you. A girl asked me out to an NBA game. I'd never been to one before. She had the BALLS to suggest we sneak down to the lower seats after we bought nosebleed tickets on the cheap, so we did. Fun ass date, saw her once more and that was that.
/r/seduction12/05/19 09:45 AM
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I assume the point of you posting this was to show how impossible women are to please even if you plan an amazing date, and now you're talking shit about his game. God you're fucking dumb.
/r/seduction10/05/19 03:30 PM
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So? I've been on plenty of good dates with people I didn't continue to see. Just because you do some fun shit together doesn't mean you're a good match. Feeling entitled to a woman's time and attention is why so many people have a negative perception of this community.
/r/seduction10/05/19 03:28 PM
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Stop seeing her.
/r/seduction09/05/19 06:33 PM
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Leave the bitch alone.
/r/seduction03/05/19 02:34 PM
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Could've enjoyed the company, but not the sex.
/r/seduction11/04/19 01:50 PM
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Cold blooded
/r/seduction11/04/19 01:49 PM
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He enjoyed it, clearly they didn't. Also may be why he only got six dates after talking to 300 women. I feel like the app is not the problem here.
/r/seduction10/04/19 05:49 PM
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Yeah, that's atrocious.
/r/seduction10/04/19 05:48 PM
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You got it, chief.
/r/seduction14/03/19 01:33 PM
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Not at all. He's the kind of person that gives the seduction community a bad name.
/r/seduction13/03/19 01:53 PM
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You're creepy, dude.
/r/seduction13/03/19 01:53 PM
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You know you're out of touch when you're complaining about making $150,000 in one day.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/01/19 05:50 AM
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3 - When you meet women, be playfully flirty. If they respond, assume interest. If they seem cold, move on. 5 - Set hard rules for yourself. Don't make her choose. Once it's clear she's not interested, just stop initiating and move on. The reason you got into PUA was to find a partner, not make a friend. Think of it like this. It's a job interview. You want to find a suitable candidate. If they don't meet the criteria, you move on. There's no reason to feel bad. It doesn't have anything to do wi…
/r/seduction02/02/18 05:46 PM
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When asking for a date, don't just say "let's get drinks some time." Be specific. Say "Let's go to X bar on Y night at Z time." Either she says yes or no. No half-assing.
/r/seduction26/01/16 02:28 PM
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Usually my first message was some comment or question about their profile. Shows you actually read it. Then my second message would be to suggest a date, usually live music at a bar, comedy show, outdoor activity etc... If they said yes, then I'd get the number. If not, then no time or energy wasted. Girls on dating websites/apps literally want to meet dudes. Once you stop creating excuses about why an idea won't work and try it, you'd be surprised by how easy it can be.
/r/seduction26/01/16 04:03 AM
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Tinder wasn't really a thing when I was single, but this is pretty much how I got a shit ton of OKC dates. Cutting out pointless texting and just asking a girl out in the first three messages was a game changer.
/r/seduction25/01/16 05:53 PM
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It's been awhile since I frequented this sub, but seriously? This is some day one shit, kiddo.
/r/seduction23/05/15 12:57 PM
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I'm the same way. I know I'm a person that texts very quickly and immediately, so I am aware that it's a slippery slope into dumb bullshit. I would wait until the Friday before the date and then send a confirmation message. Maybe one more the day of.
/r/seduction01/05/15 03:12 PM
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So, would you say that you live in a gay-borhood?
/r/seduction02/01/15 04:00 PM
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So, it's an "ignore it until it goes away" kind of problem? I just don't see how choking women and forcing them towards your crotch is at all defendable. Just because we're in the seduction community doesn't mean that we have to support every crazy thing a coach does.
/r/seduction13/11/14 05:10 AM
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Start walking home. Her: Where are we going? Me: My place. There's no need to be coy. Everyone knows what the fuck is up.
/r/seduction26/09/14 04:16 PM
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Shallow guys attract shallow girls.
/r/seduction28/08/14 04:36 PM
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And you're talking to the ex why?
/r/seduction07/05/14 04:47 AM
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When I stopped caring about what girls thought about me and started rejecting girls that I wasn't interested in. It's a very strange feeling for someone who struggled with self-confidence issues all his life to suddenly feel like I don't have to settle someone just because they're attracted to me. I can decide for myself if they're good enough for me.
/r/seduction15/04/14 11:08 AM
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Being direct works fine. Cheesy lines do not.
/r/seduction15/04/14 11:07 AM
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Texting is retarded. You're not going to make a girl more attracted to you with a text. It's for logistics. Set the next date at the end of the date. Don't worry about keeping her interested. Do your job right during the date and you won't have to text her dumb bullshit to keep her attention. She'll genuinely want to see you again.
/r/seduction15/04/14 11:04 AM
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Don't stop dating her. Don't get complacent and think you've got her hooked and you can just sit around playing video games all day or turn into her lap dog. That's not who she wants to date. She wants to date the guy she first met. The real issue is not how do you keep a girl interested, but how can you make the person she's attracted to initially the real you and not who you are when you think you need to impress someone.
/r/seduction15/04/14 11:00 AM
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Take her hand and put it on your cock. Expecting a dick to get hard without any stimulation isn't going to help it get harder faster.
/r/seduction15/04/14 10:52 AM
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I have to concur with the TL;DR. I got one a couple years ago, and all around it is some of the best money I've ever spent. Girls fucking eat that shit up.
/r/seduction15/04/14 10:51 AM
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So start contributing.
/r/seduction21/03/14 04:52 AM
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1) Simply seducing girls won't give you a bad reputation. It's a skill that lots of guys wish they had. If they're talking shit it's because they're haters that are jealous of you getting laid when they aren't. Ignore them. Guys talking about you being a player are not a threat because it just makes them look like giant pussies. However, if you do treat a girl badly, you can count on her telling everyone. Not everything lasts forever, but when it ends, do it nicely. 2) Don't bother. Ignore it. R…
/r/seduction17/03/14 11:01 AM
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If they're boring, I don't see them again. At least, not outside the bedroom.
/r/seduction17/03/14 10:57 AM
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Night game is 100% about having fun. If you have the right mindset and energy, night game runs itself. Generally, when I enter a bar, the first thing I'd do is go to the dance floor. It's important to choose a place that fits your style. Don't go to raves if you hate electric music. Feeling the music will turn your good vibes up. If all you can think about is how much the music blows, you're in the wrong place. Once I'm in the dance floor, I just close my eyes and groove awhile. Don't worry abou…
/r/seduction17/03/14 10:55 AM
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Link.
/r/seduction14/03/14 09:18 AM
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Cool story, bro.
/r/seduction14/03/14 04:32 AM
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I live in a big city, but the foreign community isn't large. I gamed at the same 2-3 bars for a couple years. I'd run into people I knew, girls I'd slept with before, and girls I'd struck out with, but nobody was weird about it. We met at the bar. We both know what's up.
/r/seduction12/03/14 03:53 PM
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Whenever you get rejected by a girl, just say ok and be friends with them.
/r/seduction12/03/14 03:47 PM
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Being vulnerable doesn't necessitate being a spineless pussy that is unable to do things for himself. When Mark Manson preaches about vulnerability, he means that you put yourself in positions to be rejected.
/r/seduction05/03/14 07:31 AM
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She might be one of those girls who was a "rule" that she won't text a guy first because it makes her look needy or something retarded like that. I wouldn't put a lot of thought into this. It's a text.
/r/seduction05/03/14 04:55 AM
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It's not easy. Success can go to a guy's head and make him do weird shit. I spent a year bouncing between extremes of doing well and bombing, and when I didn't do well, I felt terrible about myself. Just getting good with women shouldn't be the key to your overall happiness. I have quit gaming since I've been dating someone. At first, before it gets serious, this might be hard for some people to do, but as the relationship grows, you realize more and more that what you have is better than gaming…
/r/seduction05/03/14 04:51 AM
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I don't think you know what "vulnerable" means.
/r/seduction05/03/14 04:43 AM
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This is dumb. Fear of rejection keeps you from approaching women, not from calling women who've already given you their number. Sometimes I get sick of reading shit that try to over emotionalize men. "The REAL reason he didn't call is because he's AFRAID!" Or maybe he's just not that interested. Jesus Christ.
/r/seduction05/03/14 04:40 AM
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Don't waste time with chit chatting back and forth. Send the first message. Get a reply. Suggest going on a date. If she replies, get her number.
/r/seduction27/02/14 10:20 AM
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Don't wanna date a girl? Don't take her on dates. Skip the coffee, movie, dinner bullshit and invite her over to your place.
/r/seduction25/02/14 04:50 AM
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People spend a lot more time worrying about this than they need to. Timing is a lot less important than content. Not that you should be doing work trying to "seduce" a lady via text. The main thing is not to shoot yourself in the foot. Keep things short and to the point.
/r/seduction24/02/14 05:13 AM
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I generally offer to pay for the first thing and suggest she pay for the next thing.
/r/seduction24/02/14 04:51 AM
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I agree and disagree with this. Yes, it's better to spend your time with people who want to spend it with you. Trying to hard to be with someone that doesn't care about you is an exercise in futility, and probably a reason why a lot of the guys who are here are here. That being said, you can't expect everything to come easy. Another big reason lots of guys are here is because they can't assert themselves and express their intentions. Whether or not he gets laid in this instance is not the import…
/r/seduction21/02/14 06:27 AM
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Own the awkward. Bathe in it. Don't speak. Make the other person break the silence.
/r/seduction21/02/14 06:17 AM
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I like playing the Question Game. Ask anything you want and the person has to be honest. Take turns. No repeating questions. It gets sexy fast. It can also be a good way to learn about people. The best questions to ask are the ones you want people to ask you. If you've got a funny story about getting super drunk, ask when their drunkest experience was. If you had a super bad family vacation growing up, ask about hers. You won't get to tell your story, but you'll be tapping into the things that y…
/r/seduction21/02/14 06:15 AM
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I've gotten plenty of resistance in the bed. My response is always just "okay". Then, I try to go to sleep. Pretty much every single time, within five minutes, the girl was pawing at me and we ended up doing it. Don't act desperate and push the issue. It only makes you look worse. She's already in your bed. If it doesn't happen tonight, it'll happen the next time.
/r/seduction19/02/14 09:27 AM
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I've lived alone for four years. It's never been an issue. Living alone gives me a fantastic reason not to hang out at home too much. It's boring. I go out and do shit instead.
/r/seduction14/02/14 03:16 AM
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You need to learn to eat some pussy, son.
/r/seduction14/02/14 03:14 AM
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Good job not fucking up an easy lay. Half of game is just not putting your foot in your mouth and doing something stupid to ruin your chances.
/r/seduction14/02/14 03:12 AM
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Personally, the best way for me to build the energy that I need to have a good time at the club, I have to skip standing around doing nothing and just dance right away. I don't get a drink, I don't "chill" somewhere. I feel like those just give me excuses not to take action. I go right into the middle of the most crowded section of the dance floor and groove. I don't talk to people. I don't look at people. I just close my eyes and feel it. Then, after maybe 10-15 minutes, I'm in exactly the righ…
/r/seduction13/02/14 04:11 AM
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Pretty goddamn good. Bars exist to get people liquored up and give them an excuse to drop their inhibitions.
/r/seduction12/02/14 10:56 AM
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Single you and relationship you shouldn't be different people. If they are different people, it means one of two things. Either you were putting on a front and acting in a way that isn't true to who you are because you wanted to attract a woman (in which case the relationship probably won't last), or you've changed since then. The last is to a small degree unavoidable. Everyone changes with time, but when large cores of your personality are changing just because you're not single anymore, it's a…
/r/seduction07/02/14 09:11 AM
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Being "alpha" doesn't mean being an asshole. It means being who you are and sticking to what you live your life by. Sometimes that might telling people no, saying things they don't want to hear, or doing things they don't like. You're not doing it maliciously to spite them, but you're still doing it because that's who you are. People mistake "alpha" for someone who's bossy, combative, and condescending. None of those are attractive to a mature person. None of this comes from confidence, either. …
/r/seduction07/02/14 09:00 AM
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Sam's gonna bang your girlfriend.
/r/seduction04/02/14 03:19 AM
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I get really annoyed when people say that people you meet in clubs aren't the kind to date. I've met lots of good friends and had fulfilling relationships with people I've met in bars. Just because something starts physically doesn't mean it can't be more than that.
/r/seduction03/02/14 04:51 AM
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I don't remember exactly how I stumbled on it, but it's great for both seduction and actually learning shit in another language. I've been using it so long, I don't think there's a body part I don't know. I've even learned a lot of organ and bone names.
/r/seduction30/01/14 07:15 AM
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When you're flirting with a girl, ask her to teach you French. Ask to learn body parts. It's a great way to introduce kino. Touch her hand, fingers, arm, etc... and ask what it's called. Easily leads into touching her neck, face, hair, etc... After you've learned a bit, say you want to take a test. If you get X number right, you get a kiss. I've been playing this game four years. Never hasn't worked.
/r/seduction29/01/14 07:46 AM
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This guy knows what the fuck he's talking about.
/r/seduction24/01/14 03:44 AM
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If you want to improve your conversational skills, don't ask questions with Yes or No answers. Use those Wh- question words, son.
/r/seduction24/01/14 03:42 AM
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Then you should have enough experience by now to honestly tell them that you're not ready to make that decision.
/r/seduction23/01/14 04:04 AM
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Maybe stop asking chicks to be your girlfriend the day you meet them? Get to know them a bit. I've dated chicks for months without ever deciding if I wanted to date them exclusively.
/r/seduction23/01/14 03:50 AM
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Sounds like you aren't interested in meeting again or would've suggested another time. See you around. Don't send this. What's the point? You want to "prove" how much you don't care (which you do)? It's especially bad to send days/weeks later. It makes it seem like you've been really dwelling on it and planning out the "best reaction". An even better way to get that point across is to ignore it completely. If you run into her or she sends you a message, great. Be friendly and chat for a bit, but…
/r/seduction23/01/14 03:47 AM
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Don't go out there trying to fuck the hole where your girlfriend used to be. You might get laid, but it won't be satisfying. It'll probably make you bitter. If you're over the break up, fine, but if you're still dealing with it, it would be beneficial to take some you time.
/r/seduction23/01/14 03:38 AM
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You already know the answer. Shit, I don't think I'd do long distance if I was was already in a relationship with a girl.
/r/seduction23/01/14 03:36 AM
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Just ignore it. People treat shit tests like they need to be handled with some clever line or back-handed neg about the girl. Shit tests are a girl's way of seeing if you're going to be highly reactive to a comment. A try too hard comment is just as bad as a defensive one. Just say "Okay" and move on with the conversation.
/r/seduction23/01/14 03:35 AM
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I generally subscribe to texting as little as possible, especially if you've never met the girl, or only met once. That being said, I once went on a date, we didn't talk for a week, then we spent two weeks texting, and then she invited me over for burritos and sex. You can text and get places, but you have to be careful not to fall into the trap of pointless texting. Don't make chit chat just because you're bored. That doesn't accomplish anything. If you're texting her, it should be with a goal …
/r/seduction23/01/14 03:29 AM
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Another list of boring platitudes that don't really help anyone. Thanks, OP!
/r/seduction22/01/14 03:43 AM
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Tell them. Also, don't act like a boyfriend. Don't hold her hand, take her out on dates, or text her all goddamn day. Tell her you want to see her at 11 PM at your place. Either she's okay with it or she's not.
/r/seduction20/01/14 03:50 AM
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You're overthinking this way too much. You haven't even been on a date with the girl and you're already talking about your relationship. That's a little odd. She didn't even tell you herself about what she wanted. You're hearing it from another person. Calm down and just go on a date. See how it goes. If the subject comes up, be honest. Be ready to walk away from her. Don't say you're okay with keeping things casual just because you're hoping she'll eventually change her mind.
/r/seduction20/01/14 03:48 AM
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Step 1: Stop talking. Step 2. Kiss the girl.
/r/seduction20/01/14 03:40 AM
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I was very surprised by how quick the results were. In my first month or two of strictly night gaming at bars, I had ten numbers, a couple make outs, and I was sleeping with two girls. I think a lot of this early success set me up for massive failures later, but it showed that even little adjustments can make a big difference.
/r/seduction17/01/14 06:16 AM
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You have to be honest. Tell her that you enjoy spending time with her, but you're not looking for a relationship. Use the word "casual" if you feel the need to beat a dead horse. As for seduction techniques, it'll all be the same, but you just can't act like a boyfriend. Don't hold her hand and go on dates with her if all you want to do is fuck her. You'll send her conflicting signals.
/r/seduction17/01/14 03:57 AM
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Mark was good looking. Jason wasn't.
/r/seduction17/01/14 03:55 AM
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I always succeed. That doesn't mean I fuck every girl I meet or even get their number. It means that I've met my goal. The goals that I make are all self-concentrated. Did I learn something? Did I have fun? The answer is always yes. It might be hard initially to regard rejections as fun, but you'll find out you're better for it. It's all about building a better person.
/r/seduction17/01/14 03:53 AM
1

I have had great success there. Yeah, you'll get ignored a lot, but that's just part of online dating. Fill out your profile, take the time to read theirs, and then send a relevant message. If you say something only a step more intelligent than "hey bby u want sum fuk?" she'll check out your profile, and if she seems something she likes, she'll respond. It's not rocket science.
/r/seduction17/01/14 03:51 AM
2

Stop reading books and start talking to women.
/r/seduction17/01/14 03:47 AM
5

I agree with you, but you still sound like a twat. I'd drop the red-pill bullshit and philosophy mumbo-jumbo.
/r/seduction17/01/14 03:47 AM
2

I honestly find it sad that people think being able to hold an interesting conversation is "game". Since when did crippling anxiety and poor social skills become the norm?
/r/seduction16/01/14 04:48 AM
1

I moved to a new city and was in the same boat for awhile. My strategy was always to just immediately find the busiest, most crowded part of the dance floor and start dancing there. I'd be able to get into the energy of the club and the right spirit really quickly. I wouldn't really interact with anyone for 10-15 minutes because I'd just be getting myself in the right place. I think most important for me was not giving into the temptation to get a drink right away. That'd lead to standing around…
/r/seduction16/01/14 04:20 AM
4

She's trying to see you, dude. Don't over think this stuff. Not everything is a shit test. She's reaching out to you first to confirm the date. This is a good thing.
/r/seduction16/01/14 03:54 AM
2

The problem is, you're never going to learn anything from these conversations. The whole scenario of you setting up a meeting specifically to have this confrontation, even the fact that you use the word need so goddamn much, it all just reeks of neediness. She's not going to give you a straight answer. I avoid asking these kinds of questions because they're pointless. What did you learn from this conversation? Nothing. You knew the excuses were bullshit. Now you "caught" her. Congratulations. Yo…
/r/seduction16/01/14 03:52 AM
0

This is probably what I'd do. Just let her sit on it and stew for awhile. I'm a busy man. I can't be texting your ass all day before I even know you.
/r/seduction16/01/14 03:40 AM
0

Girls don't need game. They're girls. If girls are boring, it probably means they're not excited, read: interested.
/r/seduction16/01/14 03:38 AM
1

I've had more than my fair share of girls tell me once we got back to my place that they were on their periods. Sometimes I've wondered if it's legit or not. It seems like an odd coincidence that such a large portion of the women I meet for the first time are having their period. On the other hand, do I really want to have period sex with some girl I met? Not really. If I'm dating her it's a different story, but not with a Day 1. As a side note, I saw all of these "period girls" for Day 2, and o…
/r/seduction15/01/14 03:59 AM
1

I've had a fair split of success with the women I've dated/fooled around with. I would say not to be too excited with getting a number, because that's essentially meaningless. Lots of girls will give out their number (or even just a number) to get you to go away.
/r/seduction15/01/14 03:54 AM
1

My favorite canned opener: Hi. Seriously. What's the point of running through an imaginary conversation in your head before you've even met a girl? Sure, you can plan every little detail to make it seem like you're suave as shit, but that's not reality. When you approach a girl and she doesn't answer like she's supposed to, you're just going to be left standing there holding your dick. Just be a human being. Interact with people.
/r/seduction15/01/14 03:52 AM
6

Here's my step-by-step guide to writing a sexy e-mail. Turn off your computer. Go outside. Meet women face to face.
/r/seduction15/01/14 03:47 AM
1

It doesn't matter how many guys she slept with. The underlying idea is that the guys that any given woman would sleep with is also the kind of guy who has success with other women. In some communities, the number of successfully mating males can have a large range, but the idea is still that women will generally choose men that are in that same group. It's evolutionary biology. If she has the choice of any mate, she's going to choose the A-grade male over the B-grade male every time.
/r/seduction15/01/14 03:40 AM
0

I don't know a lot of high school girls who'd date a guy in a wheelchair. Not saying it can't happen later, but pretty much everyone in high school is way too superficial to really do it.
/r/seduction15/01/14 03:34 AM
2

Why is it such a hard concept for people? Be a normal fucking human being. Don't be a jerk. Don't be a pushover. It's that simple.
/r/seduction15/01/14 03:32 AM
1

"do you want to kiss me?" and she said no. I then said, "Then yes you're the type to do what you want haha." Is it just me or does this exchange not make sense at all?
/r/seduction14/01/14 03:37 AM
13

With your legs. Never lift with your back.
/r/seduction14/01/14 03:28 AM
1

I decided what kind of person I wanted to be and I became that person. I took up hobbies I had always had interest in but never tried. I became more honest and up-front with people. I held myself and others to higher standards. I acted with more respect towards others and expected more respect in return. I became unafraid of saying no to people.
/r/seduction14/01/14 03:16 AM
4

The biggest change I made was basically just touching women. I had always been afraid of it because I thought I would come off as creepy. I practiced touching friends to become comfortable then just started doing it with everyone. I saw a lot of results right away. Within the first month I think I got like ten numbers, a couple kisses, and I was sleeping with two women. That kind of early success set me up for failure later. I became very dependent on attention from women, and not receiving it w…
/r/seduction13/01/14 04:51 AM
2

I think most guys here come from a background of "zero game". I was a massive AFC that thought being a "nice guy" was how to get women until I was 24 years old. It didn't garner much success. I was basically starting from nothing. Now, a couple years later, I've gotten a lot of experience with women, all kinds of relationships, and I've found what makes me happy. I'd call it a win.
/r/seduction13/01/14 03:58 AM
1

Good number close. As far as the first message, it's good to refer back to something you discussed and requires more than a yes/no response, but I'd avoid filler like "haha" or "lol". It adds nothing to your text.
/r/seduction13/01/14 03:54 AM
1

No, you don't say, "Hey, will you be my cumrag?" There's the issue of tact to consider, but it doesn't mean that you shouldn't be honest. Say that you're not looking for a relationship and that you just want to see the girl and have fun. Every girl in the world can read between the lines and make the decision for themselves.
/r/seduction10/01/14 04:28 AM
5

I know that just saying, "Don't worry about it," is not really helpful advice, but there are two important things you need to realize. First of all, among young adults sex happens a lot less than you think. That study shows that among men 18 - 25, only 28% have had more than one sexual partner. Second of all, the first misunderstanding affects how we think in a massive way. We believe that when we're young, that's the best time for sex. You're young and life is easy. Everyone's having sex, right…
/r/seduction10/01/14 04:20 AM
3

Seduction can be full of a lot of empty victories. I think, like myself, a lot of guys get into seduction thinking that if they can just get a girlfriend or laid more that they'll be happier. They think that the only problem in their life is a lack of companionship. Often, the roots are a lot deeper than that. We might get our game up and start sleeping with women, but we're not ultimately happier people for it. It's an incredible let down. You thought that you figured out how to fix all the pro…
/r/seduction10/01/14 04:11 AM
1

Yes, misleading people is the best way to form the foundation of any personal relationship. Fantastic advice.
/r/seduction10/01/14 04:05 AM
3

So break it off with them. They want more than what you're offering. Continuing the relationship is only going to lead somewhere one of you doesn't want to go. As for things specifically not to do: Don't act like a boyfriend. Don't hold their hands or text them constantly all day. If all you want is to bang, don't just tell them that. Act like it. Invite them over at night to your place. Not to dinner or the bar. Directly to your house.
/r/seduction10/01/14 04:04 AM
1

How the fuck do I stop being just friends with these amazing girls I meet? By stop acting like their goddamn friend. I've met some beautiful girls just over the last month alone, girls I get along with, who I become close and comfortable with, who invite me to shit and give me compliments, but it never switches to romance or sex. They've met you and you're not particularly offensive to their tastes, but you're not exciting them either. You're playing the role of a friend. Show your intent early.…
/r/seduction10/01/14 03:56 AM
1

Touch girls. I spent so much of my younger years afraid to touch girls because they might think I was creepy or something. Just learning to kino girls made the hugest difference.
/r/seduction10/01/14 03:48 AM
1

I'm assuming that by saying women aren't as "adventurous" that you mean they aren't putting out fast enough. In the adult world, there is a time and place for everything. For example, when you meet someone in a bar it's the most natural thing to do to flirt, use kino, and maybe even take the girl home at the end of the night. If you're in a work setting, that's not really appropriate. You can't constantly be wrapping your arms around her waist at your job because it's not professional. Do some f…
/r/seduction09/01/14 04:18 AM
1

Maybe if you're hitting on moms at PTA meetings, sure. The key is meeting people in the right context.
/r/seduction09/01/14 03:55 AM
1

Dancing monkey routine. They only think they can attract a girl if they entertain her, so they act like chickens with their heads cut off.
/r/seduction09/01/14 03:37 AM
3

Women are not peaking in their sexuality when they're 18 or 19 years old. While they're hot, they still don't have much experience to know what to do in the bed. Generally, the older the girl, the better the sex is, just based on their knowledge alone. There are varying degrees of kinky, but has very little to do with age. Just go out and keep meeting ladies.
/r/seduction09/01/14 03:35 AM
0

If you're uncomfortable escalating in front of her friends, move away from her friends. Simple.
/r/seduction09/01/14 03:32 AM
3

Be honest and tell her that from the beginning. Tell her you don't want a relationship, but that you enjoy being single, meeting people, and having fun. Be sexual towards her. Don't to "boyfriend-y" shit like hold her hand, text her all the time, etc... Invite her to your place, have sex, and that's about it.
/r/seduction08/01/14 04:28 AM
2

Just gotta get back on the horse again. You had it going for you, but unfortunately these things can't last forever. Obviously if you're messing around with four women, it's challenging to make time, but it's always important to still be meeting new people, just in case something like this happens. Like you said, FB relationships are generally short lived. For the most part, I'd cut my FBs off after 2-3 months. Generally, because I'd found someone else I'd like to introduce into the rotation. I …
/r/seduction07/01/14 04:14 AM
0

Get her phone number and send her home. This is not rocket science.
/r/seduction07/01/14 04:02 AM
1

Well, I'd already have been kinoing her a bunch before we were even in the cab. Ideally, we would've kissed already, but if not, my hands would've been all over her. There wouldn't be any misunderstanding about my intentions at my place. Once we were there, I'd turn on some music, because I like fucking to a soundtrack, then just sit next to her and kiss her. Not that difficult.
/r/seduction07/01/14 03:48 AM
1

"You're so young!" "I'm sure you can keep up." Wink. I don't waste time bullshitting with text messages. I'll just text them saying, "Hey, let's do X at Y on Z." It cuts down on wasted time. Either a girl is interested and agrees, interested but busy and suggests another time, or she's uninterested and makes an excuse. No matter what, you quickly know where you stand.
/r/seduction06/01/14 06:05 AM
2

Unattractive in what way? If you mean physically, I don't see what the point is having sex with someone that you're not really that sexually attracted to. I mean, we've all done it, and after you do, you're not really that happy about the whole experience. That being said, attractiveness is about more than just their body. I've had sexy girls that were my FB, but that I was ultimately "unattracted to" in the sense that I didn't view them as compatible with me for a long term relationship. In tha…
/r/seduction06/01/14 05:59 AM
5

She agrees to be in their house alone with them. She's already made up her mind about what she's comfortable doing. She doesn't think these guys are creeps. She goes in knowing full well that they're going to escalate. It doesn't entitle them to sex, but it's important that you realize your escalation isn't going to be surprising or entirely unwanted. Just invite a girl over and make her comfortable. Sit next to her so you can touch easily, have some fun, and when the moment comes, just kiss her…
/r/seduction06/01/14 05:48 AM
1

Do you? Really? Or is this just a "live to play another day" strategy you're using to keep her close while you "seduce" her? If not, cool. Just treat her like a friend. Invite her out to do shit you'd normally do with other people you have no interest in fucking. Flirting is still fine, but don't overdo it. Otherwise it'll become confusing for her and other people around what your relationship is exactly.
/r/seduction06/01/14 05:45 AM
15

Don't do shit to impress women. Put your apartment together the way you want. As long as it's not a shithole, most girls won't give a shit either way.
/r/seduction06/01/14 05:38 AM
1

It makes a lot of sense. It's the same as wearing earplugs to a loud concert. It gets rid of the loud background noise, but you're still able to hear normal range sounds.
/r/seduction03/01/14 07:26 AM
2

You're over thinking it. By the time you sleep with a girl, the shit tests are pretty much over. You've already proved your worth. She's sticking around because she enjoys your company and wants to share an activity with you. Don't be a sperg and have some "hot shot" reply to everything she says.
/r/seduction03/01/14 03:43 AM
4

This is one of the most insanely useful things posted on this entire board ever.
/r/seduction03/01/14 03:39 AM
2

Girls love helping dudes pick up other women.
/r/seduction02/01/14 04:58 AM
1

me and 8 of my friends, and my ex Well, there's your goddamn problem. It's obvious that continued contact with her is doing you no good. Sure, you care about her and all that bullshit, but it's negatively affecting your life. Tell her that until she gets her shit together that you're not interested in spending time with her.
/r/seduction02/01/14 04:13 AM
3

When was the last time you called up your boy and asked him to sit down to a cup of coffee? I'm guessing never. Knock that shit off. You want to build a friendship with a girl, treat her like you would treat any of your other friends. Invite her out to the bar with a group of people. Don't touch her in any more than a friendly manner. Don't be too flirty. Talk about how you want to have her help you pick up chicks.
/r/seduction02/01/14 04:07 AM
3

Well, you need to be less invested in these girls. You meet them once and get their number and start thinking about how great it'd be to go on a date and maybe do some kissing and then some fucking and maybe even start a real relationship and then... It's just a runaway train. You barely know this girl. Don't build her up any more than she deserves. In this particular case, the texts were weak. You sent her essentially a meaningless mass message for a holiday. You got the polite response you wer…
/r/seduction02/01/14 04:03 AM
4

The answer is escalation. She's throwing her panties at you. Take advantage. Do some push-pull, have some fun, and start using kino on her.
/r/seduction02/01/14 03:58 AM
6

Sounds like deep down you're legitimately unhappy. You're chasing women because it feels good for a moment, but in the end, even when you succeed with women, you're not happy, because whatever you lack isn't there. I'm not saying you need to date women the old-fashioned way. Shit, you probably shouldn't date anyone. At least not until you find the reason you're so fundamentally unhappy.
/r/seduction02/01/14 03:53 AM
0

You must be having some shitty sex, then.
/r/seduction02/01/14 03:51 AM
1

It's not easy. It takes a lot of practice. You have to acknowledge how you're feeling and be honest with yourself about whether or not they're justified. You have to rationally tell yourself that your feelings aren't appropriate for the situation and redirect that energy. I used to have a lot of jealousy problems, particularly if I saw a girl reject me and then move on to someone else. Most of the time, there was no reason to me to be jealous. We had just met, weren't in a relationship, etc... a…
/r/seduction31/12/13 07:13 AM
2

While it's good to know you have options, and it helps with abundance mentality, if you're hooking up to replace a girl you've lost, it's not going to work out well for you. You've invested in the person emotionally very heavy, and a string of one night stands isn't going to replace that emotional hole. You need to find something meaningful within yourself.
/r/seduction31/12/13 07:08 AM
0

Just sit down, dude. She's not going to yell at you for it.
/r/seduction31/12/13 04:07 AM
2

It's hard to speak for what other people expect from a relationship, but if they really are switching from interested to uninterested that quickly, it may be because you're coming off as needy or clingy. If they feel you investing in them emotionally more strongly than they feel is appropriate, it's a big red flag.
/r/seduction31/12/13 04:03 AM
1

If you're okay with that, then fine. Let her date around. That frees you up to date around. If you aren't comfortable with that, then this is not going to work out. It's a waste of time to be jealous or worry that you're "competing" with other guys. All you can control is yourself. So, when you're with her, put your best foot forward and have a good time. If that's not enough for her, then it wasn't ever going to work out anyway. She may date around and decide that you're better than the rest an…
/r/seduction31/12/13 03:59 AM
1

Honestly, if you're still "wounded" from your relationship, you probably won't be doing anyone any favors by "dating". If you just wanna hook up, fine whatever, but apparently you're not ready to move on completely yet.
/r/seduction31/12/13 03:53 AM
1

Sounds like you were doing it wrong, buddy. I've met plenty of girls from online dating websites. While not a lot of girls will reply, I find that of the ones that do, I do really well with. It seems that you're wasting way too much time before setting up a date.
/r/seduction31/12/13 03:52 AM
1

I never said anything about people's preference when dating. What I'm saying is that to call a woman a slut for something and celebrate a man's involvement in the same act is ridiculous. This view on sexuality objectifies women. They are no longer human beings able to express their natural wants and needs. Instead, they are forced to become the withholding "keepers of the sex", and if they don't follow "the rules" they lose value. It's an incredibly simplistic and restrictive view of sex.
/r/seduction30/12/13 04:38 AM
1

People are not locks and keys. We have our own free will, desires, motivations, and goals. They both acted on the same impulses. They wanted sex. There's nothing wrong with that. However, judging two people different for the same action is just silly and misguided.
/r/seduction30/12/13 04:13 AM
1

Building skills earlier is always more desirable than later. Just because you're not going to be marrying your first high school girlfriend doesn't mean you can't begin improving yourself with women.
/r/seduction30/12/13 04:11 AM
1

I say fuck it. Let them. I get some enjoyment out of watching other dudes hit on my girlfriend, though. I know that she's there with me and that's not going to change. As for it creating trouble, I've never had that happen. Nobody ever flips out when they find out she's dating someone. That's not what anyone would call an acceptable reaction because buying her a drink doesn't make her owe him anything, especially if he offered. If someone offered me a drink, regardless of my relationship status,…
/r/seduction30/12/13 04:08 AM
5

It's because of idiot douchebags like you who slut shame women for expressing any independent sexuality that they have to lie about it. The writer calls her a slut for sleeping with him immediately, but he did the same goddamn thing with her. They've both done the same thing. Why should she be judged as a slut while he gets a "golden touchdown"?
/r/seduction30/12/13 03:57 AM
0

There's no "good time" to break up with a lady. Just rip the band-aid off and be done with it. Don't give her a couple sympathy weeks because you think it'll make it easier to swallow. She'll know what was going on, and it'll just make it worse. Also, stop whining.
/r/seduction23/12/13 11:50 AM
-1

I'd say.
/r/seduction21/12/13 07:46 AM
2

You've already banged. It seems to be going pretty well. She's not going to forget who you are in a couple weeks. If she texts you, feel free to respond, but you should be out living your own life on your vacation. It's the holiday season. You should be seeing family and friends and what not. If you're spending all your free time texting her, it shows a very strange amount of emotional investment on your part. After just one date, she's become more important to you than your own family. Kind of …
/r/seduction20/12/13 04:32 AM
3

Declaring interest, e.g. telling her you'd like to take her out, is fine. Saying the words, "I have a crush on you" is some middle school shit. Let your actions demonstrate your feelings.
/r/seduction20/12/13 04:27 AM
4

I just use it all the time by habit. I kept calling a girl, "man," until it got to the point she just said, "Hey, I'm not a man, okay?" then grabbed my hand and put it on her tits. We made out.
/r/seduction20/12/13 04:26 AM
4

State your intentions from the beginning. If you're spending a lot of time with a girl and treating her like a girlfriend, of course that's where your relationship is going to go. Tell her straight up the first time you hang out that you just want to be casual, have fun, etc...
/r/seduction20/12/13 04:15 AM
2

Physical attraction is really just a game of "good enough". Once you've passed the threshold, the rest is just extra. It can help in the short run, but having strong game will help a lot more in the long run.
/r/seduction20/12/13 04:13 AM
5

Rejection only gets awkward when you decide to let it be. I've been rejected by plenty of women and remained on friendly terms with them. The reason so many people feel that rejection is inevitably awkward is because of the mismatching levels of emotional investment by both parties. Bringing that difference in emotional investment between two people out into the open is how shit gets weird. If you can take rejection and let it roll off your back, no awkwardness. The rub is that you need to make …
/r/seduction19/12/13 03:49 PM
2

Whenever I play this game, I think about my life and all the stories that I think are fun or having interesting answers, then I ask those questions to them.
/r/seduction19/12/13 03:47 PM
1

I would agree that online dating can be a way of avoiding approaching, but it still remains a valid way to get in contact with people. The best thing about online dating for a guy is that if you get a response to your first message, you're pretty much guaranteed that she's interested. She wouldn't reply to someone she wasn't interested. The onus is on you to create an interesting looking profile and send her something more engaging than "hey babby u want sum fuk?" I've met several really great g…
/r/seduction19/12/13 03:44 PM
4

"I don't know you enough. I just met you! giggles" She gift-wrapped and air-mailed that pussy to you. Woof. Anyway, the timing of texting is way less important than the content. So many dudes waste time worrying about waiting X amount of time. It's not exactly needy behavior, but it loses sight of the girl as a person. It turns her into some robotic reaction where you have to act according to some formulaic process to achieve a certain outcome. Real humans don't interact like that. The big pitfa…
/r/seduction19/12/13 03:39 PM
-1

Cool story, bro.
/r/seduction19/12/13 03:33 PM
5

Any unnecessary contact is great. Lean in to talk. Brush your tits on his arms. Touch his chest when you laugh. Touching him anywhere around the neck or face. If you're sitting, hands on his thighs, etc...
/r/seduction19/12/13 03:31 PM
2

You're not making your intentions clear. You're her emotional tampon, not something to get her sexually excited. Touch the goddamn woman.
/r/seduction19/12/13 03:29 PM
2

It depends on where you are in your development. I have maintained friendships with girls I formerly dated or have been rejected by. It doesn't really bother me. Honestly, most of the time I get rejected, I know I'll never see them again, so it doesn't matter. If it's within a small social circle and you can manage, there's no reason to ignore them if you happen to see them. It means you've been hurt by the rejection, which often seems strange because it implies a high level of emotional commitm…
/r/seduction17/12/13 12:12 PM
2

If you can't be their friend, don't bother pretending. It doesn't benefit anyone. You're still interested and maintaining contact will only make it harder to move on. Keep working on your inner game. It sounds like you're very dependent on having someone in your life who makes you happy. This is the root of the problem. If your happiness isn't derived from other people and comes from within, it won't matter if the girl only wants to be friends.
/r/seduction17/12/13 05:48 AM
2

Tons of free shit to do that's interesting.
/r/seduction13/12/13 04:06 AM
1

If you want to let a girl know you're interested in her for more than sex, you need to open yourself up. Be vulnerable. Tell her shit about yourself that you don't tell most people. Learn shit about her. Ask her questions about important experiences in her life. If all you do is fuck her and kick her out of bed, of course that's the kind of impression she's going to get.
/r/seduction12/12/13 04:57 AM
1

Honestly, I wouldn't even answer the question. It's not even a shit test. It's just a horrible trap. Nothing good ever comes out of it. Asking questions about people's sexual history is not going to give you any meaningful, useful information. You're not going to be better off for knowing how many people they've been with, what they did, how big it was, etc... If women ask me, I just tell them I'd rather not discuss it and move on. You don't always need a cute, clever, suave, etc... line. Someti…
/r/seduction12/12/13 04:54 AM
3

-ALWAYS MAKE YOURSELF SEEM BUSY Even if you're sitting around browsing Reddit and fucking around 95% of the time. Girl asks if you're free on (X) night, make some shit up about being busy and then offer an alternative night a few days later. Nobody wants to date a loser who sits around all the time. If you do sit around (which I do often, I'm a lazy fuck) ignore your phone and pretend you're busy. Be purposefully vague about what you're doing though, it builds intrigue. Alternately, stop living …
/r/seduction12/12/13 04:47 AM
1

Don't bother texting her anything at all. What would be the point? She knows what she did is rude. You're not going to teach her a lesson or make her feel guilty. Don't give her the satisfaction of your attention anymore. Delete the number and move on.
/r/seduction10/12/13 04:33 AM
5

Ask her.
/r/seduction10/12/13 04:22 AM
2

I had a very similar story. I never told the girl and I highly doubt that she would've believed me if I had. Sex is a natural thing. It's what we're put here to do. All of us are the products of successfully mating parents. It's in our DNA. Put yourself out there, get into the situation, and do it. Be energetic, be interested in her pleasure as well as yours, and you're golden.
/r/seduction09/12/13 06:50 AM
2

I lost mine pretty late. You know how many times it came up in conversation? Never. Don't run around talking about how you've never been laid and people will probably just assume that you have.
/r/seduction09/12/13 06:42 AM
2

Just pick a time. Don't overthink this stuff.
/r/seduction09/12/13 06:41 AM
2

Bounce them back to their place. Problem solved.
/r/seduction06/12/13 10:06 AM
1

Tell her you don't want a relationship. Then she can chose. She can decide you're not worth it, or she can decide that she just wants to bang. Both are fine.
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:41 AM
1

I think your question is poorly worded because it's very confusing. It seems like you're describing two of the same things. I think in the early stages, people can benefit from goals because it inspires action. That being said, the goal should be low. If it's your first time going out after reading some material, the goal should not be a #-close or K-close. It should be something much simpler, like open three sets. Anything beyond that, it's best just to go out with the mindset of having fun no …
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:39 AM
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Put yourself in a sexual context earlier with kino. I know it can be awkward, particularly in the beginning because you're not comfortable touching people you don't know. Practice basic things like touching people's shoulders/arms to get attention, emphasize a point, share a laugh, etc... That'll start you on a touching habit and you can do it with people you've just met more natural. Then it's just a matter of moving it forward. When I started I was very touch averse, but now I've gotten to the…
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:36 AM
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Don't sit across the table from her. Easy solution.
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:33 AM
2

You should be busy living your life. You can't let her monopolize your time.
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:30 AM
1

A lot of this would be avoided by setting up a date in person. Go on a date, have a good time, hook up, and then when she's leaving, tell her you want to do something at X day at Y time.
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:22 AM
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Don't ask for a date. Tell her you're taking her somewhere fun. Be mysterious. Don't tell her what you're doing exactly. Just give her a time and a place.
/r/seduction05/12/13 04:58 AM
2

Girls say lots of things about sex, especially when they're young, but they don't mean then. I can't tell you how many girls I hooked up with that at one point told me we definitely weren't having sex that night. It's just part of how they maintain a decent image. None of them want to be seen as sluts. Unfortunately, society puts a lot of pressure on girls to be the "keepers of the sex", which implies that only men get to enjoy it freely and that they should feel guilty about pursuing sex active…
/r/seduction05/12/13 04:57 AM
6

God, that's an awful color scheme.
/r/seduction05/12/13 04:51 AM
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He means "indirect". While I think this would be true for a man approaching a woman in this situation, I would never think a girl who approached me just did so because she actually needed me to do something or I was just the closest at hand. Any time a girl actually approaches me, I think, "Damn, she must be into me."
/r/seduction05/12/13 04:49 AM
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A man would never be offended by a woman approaching. Most of the time the pressure is on us to break the ice, so a girl taking it upon herself to start interacting with a guy is always a welcome surprise. We don't have a constant stream of people approaching us, so when it does happen it's very flattering. Just make eye contact, smile, and say hi.
/r/seduction05/12/13 04:47 AM
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Exercising my own selective choice. For a long time I dealt with self-esteem issues. I was so desperate for female attention that I'd take anything I got. I thought I was "getting lucky" that a girl would show interest in me. Far be it for me to turn her down. I'd hook up with girls I didn't find that attractive, go on dates that were boring, all because I thought it was only up to the girl to choose. Then I had one really good date. It wasn't just good because she was good looking or because I …
/r/seduction04/12/13 03:34 AM
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Two or three times in the past two years or so. I don't see her very often, and a lot of times she's dating someone or I am, so I don't do anything then.
/r/seduction04/12/13 02:50 AM
1

It's not something I pursue full time, but if we're in a bar I'll go for a kiss. If I don't get it, I'll still have my own fun.
/r/seduction03/12/13 08:25 AM
4

"So you have something to wash with."
/r/seduction03/12/13 04:42 AM
1

I've had lots of soft rejections that were essentially "not right now"s, and those certainly deserve to be followed up on. I've only made moves on one girl that has outright rejected me more than once. I only see her a couple times a year, so if I do, I never let the opportunity pass by. Honestly, I kind of think it's just a matter of time before we sleep together.
/r/seduction03/12/13 04:39 AM
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So, when you text women, they become uninterested, you say? Sounds like the quick solution is not to text them.
/r/seduction03/12/13 04:37 AM
1

Lie. Half the time I meet people in a bar that I know I'll never see again I tell them that I train seals at an aquarium. People eat that shit up. It makes their night. I've seen people months later that recognized me as the "seal guy".
/r/seduction03/12/13 04:26 AM
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Some girls resist just because they don't want to be seen as easy. You may need to justify leaving with some other excuse. "It's too loud," "I'm hungry," "I know another cool place," etc...
/r/seduction02/12/13 08:23 AM
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No. It's silly to judge women for being receptive to men's attention particularly when you're trying to seduce them. Don't hold a woman's sexual drive against her. It's working in your favor. It's like biting the hand that feeds.
/r/seduction02/12/13 04:28 AM
2

Less is more. I'm dating someone now that I met online. We set up a date and then I went more or less into silent mode. I only texted her to make sure that we were still on and confirming the details the day before/of the date. She mentioned later that this really surprised her. She expected me to be blowing up her phone because that's what most guys do. Separate yourself from the norm by not unnecessarily initiating contact. By doing so, you're putting this girl on a pedestal. Why are you worri…
/r/seduction02/12/13 04:26 AM
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A big sign that a girl is willing to go to your house with you is if she's willing to leave the bar with you. For example, if you suggest going to a different bar, getting food, etc... and she's down to leave with you, things are looking good. As for how to say to go back to your place, I generally leave it quite open. A simple "Hey, let's get out of here," usually works. This has worked about 95% of the time for me. If it doesn't work, just try reframing the statement. I got rejected to bounce,…
/r/seduction02/12/13 04:18 AM
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That's very true. Even if she has many guys who are interested in her, chances are most of them are AFCs. They blow up her phone at every opportunity and they supplicate her because they think that's the only way they can win a girl over. She may text back and forth with them, but ultimately nothing will happen, and she'll get bored and stop responding because their constant attention is routine and unexciting. Now, when she meets a guy, is attracted enough, and gives him her number and suddenly…
/r/seduction29/11/13 10:08 AM
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Exactly. Wasting time. He's trying to talk about philosophical shit with an 18 year old girl. The definition of wasted time.
/r/seduction29/11/13 10:05 AM
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God, that was one of the most cringe-worthy things I've ever read.
/r/seduction29/11/13 07:28 AM
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Would you stay with a woman you were no longer attracted to? Of course not. That bullshit doesn't apply to women only. It applies to any human being. Don't make women out to be devils just for exercising their sexuality in the same ways that men do.
/r/seduction29/11/13 07:12 AM
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Flirt lightly with him. Don't "mark" him as yours to scare off other women, but just be smiley and happy and touchy. It lets other women know he's not an absolute creeper. Apparently someone is attracted to him, so he must have something going for him.
/r/seduction29/11/13 07:10 AM
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You didn't make the move the first time you met. You spend weeks texting her before even mentioning meeting again. You've become a source of platonic attention. You've lost any sexual attraction that was there. When she couldn't make the first date, you were too interested in re-scheduling to see her again. You're making yourself too available. It makes you lose status and come off as needy.
/r/seduction29/11/13 07:08 AM
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Everyone likes receiving attention. It doesn't make you an attention whore just because you enjoy it. It seems very judgmental of you to think so. As far as I can see, she's monogamous with you, honest about the scope of the relationship, has a history of committed relationships, and even seems to enjoy spending time with you in the company of her friends (something generally not reserved for someone who's just a boy toy). Unless you've got something else to tell us, it sounds like you're just b…
/r/seduction29/11/13 07:05 AM
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You're in college. Pussy should be falling from the sky. I've been FWB with several girls. Most I either met in a bar or online. I've had good luck with OKC. When I meet a girl in a bar and pull her home, we have sex, and then I contact her later. If she agrees to go out to the bar again, shit is on like Donkey Kong. If they ask about "what we're doing" I tell them that I'd like to keep things casual and not enter in a serious relationship. With girls I meet online, I feel more obligated to be u…
/r/seduction29/11/13 06:53 AM
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Make your intentions clear by letting her know that you are pursuing a sexual or romantic relationship. However, you don't want to immediately give off the vibe that she's the most important thing going on in your life. That's completely strange and off putting. If you had a girl who you met once that was suddenly very super interested in spending lots of time with you and seemed desperate for your time, attention, and affection, you probably wouldn't be interested in meeting with her again. The…
/r/seduction29/11/13 06:49 AM
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You don't need to do anything. She is interested in you. Texting with a girl all month before you see her is only going to lower your stock. It makes you seem needy. You should have more important things to do during your holiday month than spend it texting a girl you went on one date with. You need to see friends, family, etc...
/r/seduction28/11/13 03:26 AM
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Don't. Make initial contact, do some very short back and forth, comment on common ground, and make plans. I've never used Tinder, but generally with OKC, I'd message a girl probably three times, get her number on the last message, and then after a quick text to set up the number let it go. Example: Me: Hey, I saw you like, X, Y, Z! Which one is your favorite? Her: Blah blah blah doesn't fucking matter Me: Well, I'm going to do something related to X, Y, Z at such and such date and time. You shou…
/r/seduction28/11/13 03:22 AM
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It's often said that "nice guys finish last". Don't confuse being a "nice guy" with being kind. "Nice guys" are just people who aren't comfortable expressing how they feel, so they engage in "nice" behavior. They are willing to do anything to please a girl because they think that's the only way they'll attract her. It's deceitful and manipulative, and the end result is that they inevitably get rejected and then get mad at the girl because they're such a "nice guy". They think they're owed someth…
/r/seduction28/11/13 03:18 AM
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Exactly. There's no "trick" to kissing a woman. Wait for the moment and just do it. I don't even say anything. Just lift her chin with your finger, and it's game over.
/r/seduction26/11/13 02:58 AM
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I wouldn't say I dated girls exactly, but we were fucking. Some were a bit more intimate than others. Some girls I'd spend time with outside my bed, some I wouldn't. For awhile I was usually seeing two girls at the same time, sometimes three. I was completely open. I gave them as many details as they wanted. All of them knew that I wasn't keeping things exclusive. Some girls wouldn't want to know more and we'd leave it at that. Some would ask questions about who I was seeing when and what we did…
/r/seduction26/11/13 02:51 AM
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You don't owe a girl anything just for talking to you. It sounds like that group of girls were just out to have fun and see if they couldn't get some free drinks. You weren't playing along and they weren't too interested in the first place, so they blew you off.
/r/seduction26/11/13 02:39 AM
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Don't bother. Texting is the lowest form of communication. Make plans to meet when you're both in the campus area and let it be. If you spend all your time texting her, it just looks needy as fuck.
/r/seduction26/11/13 02:31 AM
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I like Tyler a lot. His underlying message of being happy with you are and doing things for yourself rather than to impress other people made a big impact on me. Having the confidence to know that you're awesome and a rejection from a girl doesn't even register to you because you're still living the life was really important to me.
/r/seduction25/11/13 04:32 AM
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It really goes for any women. I used to think the way to get a girl was by being "nice". I was afraid I couldn't attract any women without being supplicating to them. I was afraid that expressing my sexual desires would be completely unwanted, and it would be wrong of me to show them. Took a lot of learning the hard way that it didn't work. Stating intention, and this includes directly, indirectly, with conscious kino, posture, etc..., is the best way to combat that little brother/friend label.
/r/seduction22/11/13 08:55 AM
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Dude apparently reeks of "don't give a fuck". Plus, being in college, the girls are young. They're still into guys who'd piss their parents off. I wouldn't worry too much about it. He sounds like a pretty awful dude to date to be honest.
/r/seduction22/11/13 04:48 AM
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Some people might go further and text her about cool stuff you did recently, like how the party you didn't invite her to was awesome, just to show how great your life is, but they're over thinking it. If you don't want girls to play games and flake on you, don't play games and flake on them. Go about your routine. Send her a message to join if she likes. Don't waste time with small talk.
/r/seduction22/11/13 04:45 AM
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Pro-tip: Don't ask us for ideas. Ask yourself. The best dates are the ones where you are doing something you'd already be doing to enjoy yourself. Don't take her out for coffee just because that's what you're "supposed to do" on a date. What are your hobbies? Find a way to include her in them. It doesn't even matter if they're things you normally do alone. Like reading? Take her ass to a book store. Play a game and say you have to pick out a book for each other to read. Play guitar? Teach her so…
/r/seduction22/11/13 04:43 AM
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Food for thought: How are you going to buck that "little brother" response if you keep acting like her little brother? Don't be a nice, little puppy dog. Next time a woman says something like that, do something her little brother wouldn't do. Slap her on the ass. Go in for a kiss. Hell, just give her a seductive fucking look and stare into her eyes until she gets nervous from the sexual tension and looks away.
/r/seduction22/11/13 04:39 AM
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Honestly, sounds like she's not super interested. The "I'm tired" excuse is pretty goddamn weak. Think about it like this, if the roles were reversed and a girl you were into asked you to go out, would you tell her you were too tired to meet her? In extreme circumstances perhaps, but in most cases, you would suck it up and go have some fun. Shit, earlier this year I got hit by a car and still went on a date that night. Put her on the back burner. If you're going to go out and do something, feel …
/r/seduction22/11/13 04:33 AM
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I have seen plenty of my good looking friends strike out with girls, so it's obvious that looks alone aren't going to do it. Especially if you're looking for more than a one night stand. I would say that every girl has a minimum standard for attractiveness when they're looking for a guy. A sort of "You must be this good looking to ride," if you will. As long as you meet those requirements, sleeping with you is on the table and it's up to you to charm her the rest of the way. The level is differe…
/r/seduction22/11/13 04:27 AM
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People game for different reasons. Plenty of guys have no interest in dating seriously, but they just want to get laid. In that case, why should we continue going on a large number of dates when we're not getting what we want out of it? It just creates a misleading frame to the relationship. I did that for about a year and it was fine. Now I'm dating someone. She's exactly what I'm looking for both in the bedroom and out. I'm just commenting on this because it seems like lately there has been a …
/r/seduction22/11/13 04:20 AM
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That's just a limiting belief that gives you an excuse not to escalate kino. Totally bullshit.
/r/seduction21/11/13 04:05 AM
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This is what I do. I saw jealous tendencies in myself, but then I would have to talk it over in my head with myself. I would tell myself that I had no reason to be jealous because I was with other girls. I can't get mad at her for doing the same thing I'm doing. It doesn't make sense.
/r/seduction21/11/13 04:01 AM
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To me it just sounds like you're telling guys to give up at the first sign of disinterest.
/r/seduction21/11/13 03:54 AM
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Tell them straight up on the first date that you're not looking for a relationship. They'll decide on their own if they're okay with that.
/r/seduction19/11/13 03:40 AM
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Like I said, straight up ignore his ass. I did the same thing to a guy I used to work with. He'd come into my classroom and ask for something and I would just continue teaching without batting an eyelash in his direction. He got the idea pretty quickly and left me the fuck alone.
/r/seduction18/11/13 04:26 AM
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Ignore him. If he starts antagonizing you, don't even look at him. Continue having a friendly conversation with someone else next to you. I'd suggest talking with your friends and discussing how his presence makes you feel. I have a hard time believing someone this negative doesn't get on everyone else's nerves as well.
/r/seduction18/11/13 03:24 AM
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A girlfriend isn't going to make your friend any happier.
/r/seduction18/11/13 03:22 AM
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What is creepy about a guy finding a woman attractive and wanting to talk to her? If guys never acted on their attraction, that wouldn't do anyone any good.
/r/seduction18/11/13 03:20 AM
1

You're still answering her shit test within her frame. If a girl asks me this, I just respond that I don't kiss and tell.
/r/seduction18/11/13 03:18 AM
0

Running up in them guts. Gentlemanly, indeed.
/r/seduction18/11/13 03:00 AM
5

So stop complimenting her.
/r/seduction17/11/13 01:55 PM
1

Sounds like she was texting the definition of your relationship and you fucked it up big time by getting butthurt. Your reaction is what made her mind up for her. You got disproportionally upset over nothing. It's a red flag for her.
/r/seduction15/11/13 02:41 AM
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People spend way too much time worrying about texting. First of all, it's generally worthless as a form of communication. Until you've slept with a girl, less is more. You shouldn't feel pressured to "maintain attraction" with a girl through texting just because you won't see her in person for a week. Secondly, the timing is completely pointless. I see so many rules about how you should X amount before texting her back, never text more than X times in a row, etc... This is not the fucking point.…
/r/seduction15/11/13 02:38 AM
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I don’t enjoy it all, and I still feel like a fucking worthless human being. So start doing things you enjoy. I'm not saying quit your job, but take some time to do shit for yourself for your own enjoyment. It doesn't really matter what it is.
/r/seduction15/11/13 02:28 AM
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Oh my god. You're John Cusak. I love your movies.
/r/seduction14/11/13 03:57 PM
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You're flirting a dangerous line. On the one hand the, "You're too young for me line," can be total bullshit. On the other hand, you're running the risk of seeming like an AFC who is willing to put himself in a just friends position by saying "Oh, it's just coffee not a date!" Honestly, this girl is 29 years old. I'm getting to be about that old myself and I can totally see her point of view in wanting something completely different from you. I would have a very hard time dating someone seven ye…
/r/seduction14/11/13 03:54 PM
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It seems like a lot of good signs. As for her demeanor over the phone or text, I wouldn't worry about it. They're not the best forms of communication in the first place. It's been a month and a half, and it seems like she's been dropping some massive signs. Make a move and give her a kiss, or she'll think you're not interested and move on.
/r/seduction14/11/13 04:51 AM
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Using the word "date" is about as direct as you can get. It avoids all ambiguity. How did you escalate kino with her? You didn't really give any details. As for what girls say they want when they're looking for in men, most of that shit you can throw right out the window. The same goes for how they describe how they begin relationships or engage in sex. It's all either a shit test or their own ideas about how things should work according to society's ideas at large. Seduction is not a list of th…
/r/seduction14/11/13 04:24 AM
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You think you're uninteresting? So change that. Do shit you think is cool but never tried before. You'll create good experiences, have fun, feel more confident, and meet people with similar interests.
/r/seduction14/11/13 04:16 AM
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Asking her "Do you want to..." is not direct at all. It doesn't state your intentions. It could be a friendly dinner arrangement just as easily as a date. It's very ambiguous. You didn't escalate physically with her at all -- sitting across from her at dinner, did not go for a kiss, etc... Girls aren't dumb, and she definitely has an idea of what you want -- "All guys just want sex" -- but because you haven't made any moves, that gives her the benefit of plausible deniability. Tell this girl you…
/r/seduction14/11/13 04:05 AM
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No. I've had plenty of girls reject the first kiss and do it later. Five minutes later even. It's just a situational thing. Perhaps she didn't want to be seen kissing on the dance floor by a crowd of people. Isolate and try again.
/r/seduction14/11/13 03:58 AM
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Ignore it. It's the same as an AMOG trying to blow you out of a set by making fun of you. If you react to it, you're only acknowledging the frame that they're setting. If she's just turned you down firmly, wish her a good day and go about your life.
/r/seduction14/11/13 03:55 AM
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You don't need to be so passive aggressive about it. While I agree that you made the right move in walking away from the situation, you don't need to be condescending to her. Just say, "Oh well. I guess that time has passed," and move on with the conversation. I've had similar conversations with female friends about how we never hooked up. It all came down to, "The situation just wasn't the best one," at the time. It doesn't mean we have to make up for it now or be butthurt about why it didn't h…
/r/seduction14/11/13 03:44 AM
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Well, you still have to apply yourself. You can't expect women to just throw themselves at you. Things may seem effortless for other people, but they're still creating situations where either they can approach easily or can be approached easily. If you have massive confidence but never interact with anyone it doesn't matter.
/r/seduction14/11/13 02:35 AM
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It doesn't seem like you have tons of inner confidence if you're still so hung up on how to attract a girl and feel that girls aren't attracted to you.
/r/seduction14/11/13 12:12 AM
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Simple, yes. Easy, no. It takes a lot of work to build your self-confidence. I would say the best way to do it is to work on improving yourself. Don't improve yourself with the object of impressing or pleasing other people in mind. Take things that you don't like about yourself and take steps to improve upon them. Do things you enjoy for yourself. Take up hobbies that you've always been interested. Try things you've always wanted to do but always found an excuse not to do. Many guys, including m…
/r/seduction13/11/13 10:32 AM
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For me, having abundance mentality is rooted in being okay to let girls go. You're not afraid of rejection -- not because you've already got a couple girls to sleep with, but because you're not worried that you will find someone who will accept you. A lot of the fear of rejection comes from this fear that if you fuck it up, you won't be successful ever again. That's just not true. When you work on your own self-confidence, you fix this problem. You're not scared of girls walking away from you. Y…
/r/seduction13/11/13 04:56 AM
1

This has nothing to do with pick-up.
/r/seduction13/11/13 04:50 AM
1

I think my life is interesting enough, but I live abroad and about 95% of all the Westerners have the same job -- teaching English. It gets a bit tiresome. If I'm at the bar and I start a conversation that turns to work, I'll tell them I'm a seal trainer at the local aquarium. People eat that shit up. I've had people recognize me months later as the "seal guy". I generally only really use this on people I'm socializing with and not actively trying to pick up. Sometimes it's fun to game a girl an…
/r/seduction12/11/13 02:38 AM
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I got into seduction as a virgin. I never told the girl I lost it to. I doubt she would've believed me. People's virginity comes up way less than movies would have you believe.
/r/seduction11/11/13 02:42 AM
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It's "okay" to kino anyone. The question is what you're trying to accomplish. Are you trying to move out of the friend zone? Are you just trying to practice kino? When I first started, I found that practicing kino on girls I wasn't trying to pick up was the best way to get into the habit. Now I'm at the point where not touching people feels strange.
/r/seduction08/11/13 03:24 AM
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When she asks.
/r/seduction08/11/13 03:21 AM
1

I dated around quite a bit in the past year until recently. I was seeing two girls at the same time for most of it. I let them know up front that I was seeing other people. We maintained strictly physical relationships -- not to be confused with an open, committed relationship. I could see nearly right away that each of these girls wasn't really what I wanted in a girlfriend. They were nice enough in their own way, but they didn't pair well with me. That didn't mean I didn't find them attractive…
/r/seduction06/11/13 04:35 AM
2

Why are you caught up on a girl you barely spoke to three months ago? Take half of the time and energy you're using to figure this out and apply it to meeting a new girl today.
/r/seduction06/11/13 04:31 AM
2

I've had very good luck with it, but I'm living abroad, so it might be a bit different demographic than back home.
/r/seduction06/11/13 04:29 AM
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Use your legs, not your back.
/r/seduction06/11/13 04:22 AM
2

The final chapter introduces an interesting concept -- the brain as an object of sexual selection. Basically we grew large brains not for survival skills, such as hunting, evading predators, social dynamics, etc... but for reproductive success. It doesn't discuss the matter in very full detail, but The Mating Mind by Geoff Miller spends the entire book discussing how sexual selection shapes evolution and how it accounts for things that make us uniquely human, such as art, morals, and language.
/r/seduction04/11/13 04:52 AM
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This pickup tip brought to you by Ron Swanson.
/r/seduction04/11/13 04:49 AM
0

If you're looking for pickup techniques, you'll be sorely disappointed.
/r/seduction04/11/13 04:28 AM
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I make it a point to tell a girl on the first date that I'm not looking for a girlfriend. I don't want to date someone. I want to be single and meet people and have fun. Girls aren't dumb. They know exactly what that means. Sure, some won't be interested. They want a more serious commitment. Still, there are plenty of girls out there who just want a FWB set up. For the better part of 2013, up until August, I was fucking at least one, usually two, girls at the same time. All of them knew that I w…
/r/seduction04/11/13 03:00 AM
1

Ignore it. You don't have to play on their level. Anyone with their head on straight knows that the only people who attack others are the ones that aren't confident in themselves, and the same goes for anyone who gets drawn in by their attacks. Just flat out ignore it. Turn away from them and talk to someone else.
/r/seduction04/11/13 02:53 AM
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If you mean The Red Queen by Matt Ridley, you realize that has nothing to do with seduction, right? That's a book on evolutionary biology. I mean, it's a great book, so go ahead and read it, but it's not seduction related by a long shot.
/r/seduction04/11/13 02:43 AM
1

I'd ignore it. Re-opening contact is just opening door for a big relapse.
/r/seduction01/11/13 04:31 AM
5

Cool story, bro.
/r/seduction01/11/13 04:22 AM
1

Have a more in-depth discussion with him. I had a very similar thing happen a couple years ago, and it explained how a lot of my friendships in the past had been strained. People always seemed fairly friendly yet aloof to me. Eventually my best friend said that people thought I was kind of "abrasive" because I was always poking fun at them. I never meant it maliciously, but it apparently made people uncomfortable because of how often I'd do it. I'd always thought that it wasn't my business to "c…
/r/seduction01/11/13 03:36 AM
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As far as your first message, send her something that lets her know you've actually read her profile. Girls have told me they appreciated my first messages because it wasn't just "hey baby u want sum fuck?" or some generic copy and paste kind of bullshit. If you share common interests, comment on it and ask a question. Ex: You both like a TV show, ask her what her favorite character, season, etc... is. You can do this with anything. Once you get a response (don't bother sending multiple messages…
/r/seduction01/11/13 03:25 AM
2

That's the shittiest situation, but you handled it well.
/r/seduction01/11/13 02:59 AM
1

I never suggest publically discussing your personal life with 3rd parties. I merely advised that you maintain mature relationship with people, even if they don't work out. You may not be telling girls how well you handled your last break up, but someone else probably will. Even if people don't discuss it, it's an observable truth. If everyone knows you hooked up with a girl, then after you stop and you can still hang out, people will take note of the fact you're not being a passive-aggressive as…
/r/seduction01/11/13 01:55 AM
7

Only if you treat them like you're a dick. If you hook up with a girl and then dump her, ignore her in person, say bad things about her, etc... then yes, people will think you're a tool. However, if you hook up with a girl and it becomes clear you only wanted a one night thing, you don't want a relationship, the relationship isn't working, etc... and you end the thing while maintaining an amiable, respectful acquaintance, then it'll do great things for your social image. First of all, because yo…
/r/seduction31/10/13 01:16 PM
0

It's a lifestyle, not a cult. Give it a break. Also, self-deprecation is not going to get you anywhere. You had a bad day. Tough. Learn the lesson and get over it. Don't whine about it or be a bitch.
/r/seduction31/10/13 02:55 AM
1

When you say she #-closed you, do you mean she asked for your number and you gave it, or do you have her phone number as well?
/r/seduction31/10/13 02:51 AM
1

But I used to be the rule. That's the point. It's not a matter of being doomed to be needy and clingy with girls who reject you for your life. You can work on it and improve how you handle it.
/r/seduction31/10/13 12:20 AM
3

The trick is to be truly okay with it. If you're just doing it to stay close with her and hopefully weasel your way into her pants with the Nice Guy routine later, yeah, you should probably just walk away. I, however, am not interested in that. I can ask a girl out, get rejected, take it in stride and continue being friends with her. I've even stayed friends with girls I had been fucking after they broke it off with me. It's just about letting go of your fear of never finding another girl.
/r/seduction30/10/13 03:55 PM
2

So go to the gym and pick up women. There are plenty of fit women. You just have to go where they are.
/r/seduction30/10/13 03:35 PM
3

You: Hey, I wanna take you out on a date. Her: Sorry, I'm not interested. You: Okay, let's be friends. That simple. It's happened to me plenty of times. You can't be afraid to lose her as a friend because you just met her. She's not your friend yet. You're in no position to lose anything. Even if she does reject you, you can still gain a friend. The only time you hit on a girl and she rejects you will affect your friendship is if you're already friends. In that case, you've probably been crushin…
/r/seduction30/10/13 04:41 AM
2

I would say that the only thing I don't really like about the whole article is that you never explicitly say you want an open relationship and that you will be dating other people. All you do is give some long cliche speech about rushing into a relationship being bad. It sounds nice and it may lower her expectations about what to expect from you for a bit, but I can still imagine any girl that found out you went out with someone else after hearing that speech would be pissed nonetheless. You've …
/r/seduction30/10/13 04:36 AM
2

What exactly bothers you? Getting a reputation for being good with women? That's a good problem to have. Being good with women means you know what you're doing and that makes you attractive.
/r/seduction30/10/13 04:26 AM
1

I'm a fan of splitting things. If you feel awkward asking her to pay for her own meal, then suggest that you pay for dinner and she buy coffee.
/r/seduction30/10/13 04:05 AM
1

I think the most important reason why dinner is a bad idea is because it's high pressure. If there is no conversational chemistry, you're both pretty much nailed to the table until the meal is over. There's no graceful way to bow out of a dinner. You just sit there in silence pushing peas around your plate and it's awful. Coffee is much less intense. You may not be able to kino if you can't find a way to sit next to her, but it is still possible to chat and have a good time, while offering an ea…
/r/seduction30/10/13 04:03 AM
1

Just go down on her first. I wouldn't say most, but probably half of girls will willingly reciprocate. I have met an unfortunate number of girls who "don't do" oral even after receiving, but whatever. It's not a huge deal for me. As far as how to approach it, the first thing I usually do is just take her hand and put it on my cock. Make her aware of it. When you're making out you can roll onto your back so she's laying on top of you. That's usually a pretty clear signal. If all else fails, just …
/r/seduction29/10/13 02:31 AM
11

Don't mistake having deeper feelings for a girl as a sign of weakness. Sure, if you're looking to pick up women in the bar for a one night stand you don't want to seem emotionally invested, but if you've been dating for awhile, not being emotionally invested will come off as strange as well. There's nothing wrong with having feelings for a girl. It doesn't mean you have to shower her with gifts and compliments. Just means treat her with some consideration.
/r/seduction29/10/13 02:26 AM
2

"Let's get out of here." If she offers up resistance, instead of saying you're going home, just frame it a bit different. Say you want to go outside because the bar's too crowded, then just walk home. Make it baby steps. You just wanna grab something to eat, smoke a cigarette, show her this other cool bar, etc... and work your way there.
/r/seduction28/10/13 03:26 AM
1

Just be honest. Tell them you're not looking for a serious relationship. If you want to keep seeing (one of) them, tell them you'd like to continue seeing them so you can hang out and have fun. She can take it or leave it.
/r/seduction25/10/13 04:14 AM
1

Where are you living?
/r/seduction25/10/13 03:30 AM
3

Straight up ignore it. Don't even look at him. The guy doesn't even register on your radar. Hater: Hey man, remember that time you shit yourself? You looked so stupid, haha! You: Hey man, can you throw me a beer?
/r/seduction25/10/13 02:47 AM
1

You shouldn't be staring.
/r/seduction24/10/13 12:44 AM
16

Shit is on on Halloween. It's one of those crazy nights where people will let a lot of shit go that they never would normally. Escalate like fucking crazy.
/r/seduction23/10/13 03:32 PM
1

A person's history is an accurate portrayal of how they chose to make decisions at that time. That is very relevant evidence towards what kind of person they were and how they acted. FTFY Nothing in what the OP said about his current relationship with the girl indicates what you're saying. She's been more discipled for a few years now shows no signs of her previous nature He doesn't say anything about relationship-talk, but you can't immediately assume they're not compatible because of some shit…
/r/seduction23/10/13 08:11 AM
0

Past is the past. What's important is her current attitude.
/r/seduction23/10/13 07:31 AM
0

Well, there you go. She wasn't ready. You can't do anything about that.
/r/seduction23/10/13 03:25 AM
7

Seduction can be used for anything you want it to be for. I've picked up girls, fucked them and never seen them again. I've dated girls casually in a friend with benefits fashion. I've dated girls seriously and exclusively. Whatever you're looking for is up for you to decide.
/r/seduction23/10/13 03:23 AM
16

it's worth noting this girl has been very good to me Well, there's your answer.
/r/seduction23/10/13 03:20 AM
0

If it's a girl you've just cold approached and she immediately blows you out it doesn't matter. There are a million things that could've influenced her decision and you have control over almost none of them. Worry about why some random girl rejected you will only drive you insane. In your examples, with girls you've apparently taken the time to get to know at least a bit, it may be relevant. The first girl told you she didn't want to date because of your diet. Being a vegan, she probably has a v…
/r/seduction23/10/13 02:52 AM
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Cool story, bro.
/r/seduction21/10/13 02:55 AM
1

You're a rock. Smarmy assholes don't shake you. Ignoring his comment is the best way to go. It doesn't deserve a reaction.
/r/seduction21/10/13 02:48 AM
1

Dance floor game is by definition fairly "conversation light". It's loud as shit. If you want to talk, take her outside. As far as approaching, just go out and dance and have fun. It's impossible not to meet people if you're out there living it up.
/r/seduction21/10/13 02:46 AM
1

The same way you game any girl. Act with confidence and do what you want for yourself.
/r/seduction21/10/13 02:44 AM
6

I lost my virginity when I was 24. For a long time I was very self-conscious about it. Didn't know if I should tell her or not, had anxiety about performing, bad body image issues, etc... I'd even get girls in bed, then make excuses about being too drunk to have sex because I was so nervous. Eventually I just met a girl I really liked, we took it slow a couple weeks, then had pretty great sex for my first time. Don't worry about it. Very few people have as much as sex as they'd like everyone to …
/r/seduction21/10/13 02:41 AM
5

After being a contributor to this sub for awhile, I'm surprised at the amount of people who overlook this advice. Way too many guys worry about what they will say. They think they need something cool or smart or suave. It doesn't matter. No one will ever remember the first thing you said to them. They'll only remember how you made them feel. Saying "hi" in a confident and fun manner will do you a lot more good than any "opener".
/r/seduction21/10/13 12:11 AM
1

I went to OSU. Unfortunately, I was a huge AFC at the time. I wish I would've known a fraction of the shit I know now. That being said, college game should be stupid easy. Even if you can't go to bars, the house party scene around OSU is crazy conducive to seduction. Just don't be a total creeper/pussy and you're in.
/r/seduction20/10/13 03:39 PM
1

In that situation, once you've broken up with someone, in general it's best to just cut all ties. You can't hook up with someone you don't talk to. In an on-going relationship, it's much harder. You have to be very honest. Not just with her, but with yourself as well. You have to be ready to lose the girl. I've had girls admit to "testing" me by showing up late, expecting me to chase them, etc... and I flat out told them that it wasn't acceptable. Ultimately it didn't work out with them because …
/r/seduction20/10/13 03:35 PM
3

In general, I text very sparingly before I sleep with a girl. I know myself and it's just way too easy to slip into useless chit chat that puts you in the friend zone. That being said, I did fuck a girl entirely based on text game. I met her on OKC and we had one rather unimpressive date. I figured it was a dead end and dropped it. She texted me several days later and very quickly into the conversation she mentioned her neighbor has super loud sex every day. From then on out, every single text I…
/r/seduction20/10/13 03:30 PM
3

She was very receptive, and after a couple minutes I leaned in, kissed her on the cheek and said "you're adorable." She grinned and I went along my way. Why?
/r/seduction20/10/13 03:20 PM
2

"Hi."
/r/seduction20/10/13 03:14 PM
1

Shitty dudes attract shitty women.
/r/seduction20/10/13 02:54 PM
1

I'd say just be honest with her. Tell her that you enjoy spending time with her but that you're ultimately incompatible for a long term relationship. Tell her what you told us. Sure, you could lie or try and spin it so that she might still come over and fuck you, but are you really that scared you'll never get a cute girl to touch your penis again? Your gut is telling you that deep down she's not what you're looking for. Why would you compromise?
/r/seduction18/10/13 03:28 AM
2

A sad, precautionary tale. Sounds like me in college.
/r/seduction18/10/13 03:03 AM
1

First message -- something unique about her profile Suggest a date that shares a common interest of yours, e.g. concert, hiking, book store, etc... Get the number There may be a small variation in how many messages it takes to accomplish these three steps, but it shouldn't take more than ten back and forth to figure out logistics such as time and location. Once you've got the number, shoot her a quick message so she can contact you if necessary. Once that's done, keep it quiet until it's time to…
/r/seduction17/10/13 04:26 AM
1

The problem most guys make with texting is that they're just making pointless small talk. They say they need to "maintain/build attraction" but they're not even doing that. They're just chit chatting, which is not going to help at all. Considering you haven't even met her yet, there's not a lot you can do through texting. You don't have any past experiences. I'd say just wait until Thursday to double check the date, then on Friday another message to say you're on your way to the lesson.
/r/seduction17/10/13 04:22 AM
2

There's a shit ton of women in San Fran. Why are you worried about a girl hundreds of miles away you met once? You don't need to "keep her hooked' by constant interaction. Ask her when she'll be back in town, and when the time rolls around, send her a message saying you're working at X bar at Y PM and tell her to come by.
/r/seduction16/10/13 10:33 AM
4

Be up front with women when you meet them. If you state early on in the interaction that you're not looking for a serious relationship, but you want to have fun and be single, they will understand and you'll both go forward accordingly. This even works if you don't F-close a girl the same night you meet her. Say you meet a girl and get her number. Don't ask her to do "date-y" stuff. Don't try to act romantic. Don't do coffee, dinner, movie, etc... Just invite her out for drinks. Honestly, I woul…
/r/seduction16/10/13 10:31 AM
4

Take a date to the bar.
/r/seduction15/10/13 04:38 AM
4

As much as I love Tyler, he's basically giving us advice about women which he received from a 19 year-old girl. I'm going to take it with more than a pinch of salt. Obviously, just because a girl doesn't respond or flakes once doesn't mean it's the end of the world. Shit happens, but calling over and over? I get what he says about being congruent and "Hey, I don't care if this looks weird, I want to do it," but the thing is, at least for me, I fucking hate talking on the phone. Wouldn't really d…
/r/seduction15/10/13 04:26 AM
1

For me, it boils down to fun and honesty. Whether it's a short or long-term thing, they're both really important. Be honest about what you want and don't make shit complicated. Don't feel pressured into being serious and talking about feelings. Just enjoy what you're doing with her then and there. If things do come to an end, do it maturely and as amiably as possible. Out of all the girls I've dated this year, one I'm still good friends with and see on a weekly basis. Others I run into from time…
/r/seduction14/10/13 03:29 AM
1

Ignore it. She's trying to get a reaction out of you.
/r/seduction13/10/13 01:55 PM
85

OP apparently doesn't know how to use the phrase "low hanging fruit".
/r/seduction13/10/13 01:49 PM
3

Honestly, if it were me, I'd cut my losses and drop it completely. Perhaps there was some misunderstanding of what she really wanted, but even if she was okay with you sleeping with other people, sleeping with her friend is another thing entirely. It's understandable that people feel strange about it. Could you claw yourself out of the hole and maintain a fuck buddy relationship with her? It's within the realm of possibility. Is it worth it? Probably not. There's a wide world of women out there …
/r/seduction10/10/13 03:11 AM
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Just because they agreed to casual doesn't necessarily mean she was okay with sleeping with other people. "Casual" can mean different things to different people, so you need to be very clear about the terms. When I tell women I want "casual", I let them know that means I will be seeing other people, and they can take it or leave it. On the other hand, I would say I'm "casual" with my current girlfriend because we just have fun and don't talk about futures or feelings and we're happy just having …
/r/seduction10/10/13 03:09 AM
-1

OKCupid is easy mode for getting laid quickly.
/r/seduction09/10/13 10:47 AM
1

If the conversation was completely necessary, I would've rather it been along the lines of "I would rather not see you anymore and I'm asking you not to text me anymore wither," so you can move on with your life. Why give her the option of sticking around just by dangling sex in front of you? Are you that worried you won't ever get another girl to fuck you again?
/r/seduction08/10/13 02:58 AM
1

I would not respond to this at all. Just completely ignore it. I'm a busy man. I don't have the time to take out of my schedule to entertain your boring ass.
/r/seduction08/10/13 02:54 AM
1

Don't ask for advice and then actively ignore it.
/r/seduction08/10/13 02:54 AM
2

Just to add to what Curveball has said, I would say that Korean girls more than most others are flakier than others. Korean culture is very "yes first, no later". A lot of people feel uncomfortable saying no when you ask for something, so they just make an excuse later. I couldn't even begin to count the number of girls that have flaked on me. They're also very closed off to interacting with strangers. If see's a Korean-Korean, it would've been very off-putting to approach her like that when she…
/r/seduction04/10/13 01:16 AM
3

I hooked up with a girl and we turned into close friends. Not exactly the same situation, but it shows that being friends after hooking up is certainly possible.
/r/seduction02/10/13 02:39 AM
1

You're really over-thinking this. It's just one text. You're the man. You're supposed to initiate and lead the interaction. Yes, I've had girls hit me up for booty calls, and it's pretty sweet. The only way I got there is by being a man in the first place and then discussing the fact that we were just having a sex only relationship. When she wanted it, she texted me. I was free to game other ladies, so I didn't waste time texting her.
/r/seduction01/10/13 04:47 AM
3

Avoid super lame dinner dates, yes. Avoid drinks, no. While I do acknowledge that the best date to bring someone along on is something that you'd already enjoy doing on your own, the bar is always a great place to take a date.
/r/seduction01/10/13 04:36 AM
1

Essentially, yes.
/r/seduction01/10/13 12:17 AM
20

Doesn't matter what you call it. That was some stone cold game right there. I think a lot of guys in that situation would've been really thrown off by having their expectation of easy sex blown up that they would've turned into AFCs.
/r/seduction30/09/13 10:30 AM
-2

Why bother asking for advice if you're not going to follow it?
/r/seduction30/09/13 02:56 AM
2

"Hey let's fuck" is a bit heavy-handed, particularly if you've just met her. Being honest doesn't mean blurting every thought you have tactlessly. The most important time to be honest is when you're hashing out exactly what kind of relationship you want with the girl. Lying here is going to cause a lot more drama and stress than it's worth down the line. They'll always find out. Do you want a one night stand or FWB or girlfriend? Drop hints the first time you meet them. Even be up front and say …
/r/seduction27/09/13 09:13 AM
1

Why are you still in contact with her? That's only going to make it harder to move on. Cut all contact and just stay busy with your shit. You don't even need to think about girls. Just do you. I'm all about self-development. When you're a happy person, girls are just going to see that and line up around the block for you. Do what makes you happy and shit will work out eventually.
/r/seduction27/09/13 09:08 AM
2

I've slept with women in their early 30s and 40s. To be fair, it was right after I learned about seddit, so I didn't have super great game, but I was at least self-aware enough to put my best foot forward. The 30 year old pretty much gamed me, so that doesn't count for a helluva lot. She was just super straight-forward and asked me to get a hotel with her. The 40 year old woman was something I'm pretty proud of. I wrote up an FR about it.
/r/seduction27/09/13 09:01 AM
1

That's very fair. I've done my fair share of convincing. If they say "We're not having sex" when nothing sexy is happening, I just go "Okay" and ignore it. That doesn't mean I don't initiate things later. I'm just non-reactive to what she's said. She said she didn't want sex, not that she didn't want to be kissed. If we're already in my bed and clothes are coming off when she says it, I'll say "Okay" and just take a step back. Keep making out but change what my hands are doing. Try again a coupl…
/r/seduction26/09/13 03:28 PM
1

It depends on the girl. I've known some girls and dated them for a month before we slept together. I was seeing other people at the same time, so it didn't really matter. I enjoyed being around them. Had I found them boring and not been getting laid, I would've stopped seeing them.
/r/seduction26/09/13 03:25 PM
0

Sounds like you live in a shitty state.
/r/seduction26/09/13 03:24 PM
1

Dance floor game is all about energy. If you're out there having a great time dancing and singing, people will be drawn to it. You can't half-ass anything out there.
/r/seduction26/09/13 10:31 AM
3

I've been in the same situation and it's awful. I had the same problem, though with a much shorter relationship. I met a girl right after I started learning seduction techniques, just like you. I was bored and I felt both my eyes and mind wandering, just like you. I wondered if I should break up with her for awhile. She hadn't done anything wrong, but I could ultimately tell that my heart just wasn't in it. I broke up with her (it went okay) and started dating other people. For about six months …
/r/seduction26/09/13 10:29 AM
5

"Okay," is the only line I've ever needed. I'm not really interested in manipulating women into sleeping with me through guilt trips or over-aggression. Every single time a girl has told me she didn't want to have sex, I simply replied that was fine, and most of the time we ended up having sex because she initiated it. If she doesn't, then she didn't want to have sex and I didn't act like an asshole about it. I can get it later from her or someone else.
/r/seduction26/09/13 10:14 AM
-6

Condoms. How fucking old are you? I thought everyone got sex-ed in school.
/r/seduction26/09/13 09:40 AM
3

I'm not going to guilt trip you for hitting on a dude's girlfriend. If she was really not interested at all she never would've agreed to meet you one-on-one after you said you didn't want to be only friends, much less kiss you. That much is on her. I would just be upfront with her about what you're looking for. Tell her you have fun with her and want to see her again, but you're not looking for a serious relationship. Then the ball's in her court. She can take it or leave it. You have to be read…
/r/seduction25/09/13 03:02 AM
5

There usually isn't a lot of time in between getting in the door and making out. Either we've been on a date and I've already K-closed her and have been kinoing the whole time, so making out is pretty much decided on happening, or I'm bringing her home from the bar, and we both obviously know the score, so there's no point in beating around the bush. Girls aren't dumb. It doesn't matter if you pick her up at the bar or take her on a date. When you invite her back to your place, she knows exactly…
/r/seduction25/09/13 02:52 AM
2

I just ignore it. There's really no good answer to this question.
/r/seduction25/09/13 02:45 AM
1

Timing is a lot less important than content. It could be ten minutes later or a week later.
/r/seduction23/09/13 02:56 AM
2

He sounds like an idiot. I wouldn't worry about it.
/r/seduction23/09/13 02:52 AM
2

The easiest way I can put it is to only be doing things because you enjoy doing them. If you don't like bars but you go to one to meet women, the whole time you'll be thinking "I fucking hate it here. I need to pick up a girl or this is all just a waste of time." Completely outcome dependent. Then, invariably, you won't do well and it'll fuck you up. The best way to start is to start doing hobbies you enjoy completely alone. It doesn't matter what it is. It just needs to be something you enjoy d…
/r/seduction23/09/13 02:48 AM
1

If a girl isn't interested and ignores your texts/rejects you, it doesn't mean you have to be an asshole and ignore her. Just stop trying to get in her pants. Treat her like a friend. You can still text her or be friendly when you run into her at the bar, but make it clear that she's not a romantic target for you. You can hit on other girls and why should she care? She wasn't interested in the first place and you've been a gentleman about it.
/r/seduction23/09/13 02:44 AM
3

Okay.
/r/seduction22/09/13 06:50 AM
14

I'm not just talking about one specific girl. I'm about the kind of girls I screen for. I don't take out girls that I think would just run off with another dude. That's not who I want in my life. For example, last night I saw a sad fucking sight. A guy was out with a girl and they were dancing, making out, etc... Shit looked like it was going real well for the dude. Then something happened. The girl beckoned him over to her like she expected him to come like a dog and he didn't. She immediately …
/r/seduction22/09/13 06:46 AM
27

Still seems unnecessary.
/r/seduction22/09/13 06:41 AM
7

You aren't treating women like people. You're treating them like a video game. "If I can do X, Y and Z then she'll sleep with me." That's not how people work. I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding about what natural game means. It doesn't mean you go up to a girl and "wing it" every time. It's just that the interaction feels natural because you're confident being yourself in the moment. I've internalized a lot of skills and techniques when it comes to approaching girls, kino escalation…
/r/seduction22/09/13 06:40 AM
3

Sometimes all it takes to get a woman into bed is to play along and not fuck it up for yourself. It's an underrated skill.
/r/seduction22/09/13 06:33 AM
2

What is a university crush?
/r/seduction22/09/13 06:33 AM
1

Don't think of a Day 2 as a way of impressing the girl. You're putting a lot of work into thinking all of these super specific aspects of the date out to the most minute details. The best Day 2s are the dates where you are going to do something you already want to do and invite her along. It doesn't matter what it is. If it's something that you like, have fun doing, know how to do well, etc... it's going to work very well for you. You'll be comfortable and relaxed. Even if it doesn't go super we…
/r/seduction22/09/13 05:41 AM
14

Girls have lots of practice getting rid of guys that they're not interested. I don't need to help her out. She's a big girl. It doesn't really matter if he's got good game or not. No matter how tight your game is, if the girl isn't interested, you're not going to get anywhere. She's there with me and I know she's not looking for another guy. I've got nothing to worry about.
/r/seduction22/09/13 05:39 AM
52

One of the few times I disagree with you. It just seems like a line like that comes from a place of low self-confidence. When guys hit on my date, I simply let it play out. They've got no game and they're no threat to me. She'll quickly shut him down and I'll step in and put my arm around her. It doesn't need to be a big deal with a "clever AMOG Destroyer" to hide the fact you're feeling threatened.
/r/seduction22/09/13 05:30 AM
1

I like it when a man looks me straight in the eyes. Like he can’t take his focus off me. It grabs you. This is one of the most important things. Last night I was out and I caught a girl's eye from across the little park. She stopped dead in her tracks and maintained the eye contact. I didn't break the eye contact and just smiled at her. She said something to her friend and came over to approach me. Turns out she had seen me at the beach a couple days before and recognized me, which gave her an e…
/r/seduction21/09/13 01:43 AM
2

I just think you have the entirely wrong mindset. You're what gives seduction a bad name. This is why people think we're creeps. You have low self-confidence, you make threats of violence, you try to manipulate people, and you treat women like objects rather than people. You need to sort your shit out.
/r/seduction21/09/13 01:26 AM
2

Ugh. No.
/r/seduction20/09/13 02:55 AM
1

It's not a criticism of your character. You were oversimplifying things. Human beings have evolved past simple mating. Speaking in terms of evolutionary psychology, we've gone from the Stone Age to the Space Age in the blink of an eye. Societal norms have formed that don't make any biological, historical sense. Just about any sexual anxiety can be traced back to this. You have urges that you don't have socially acceptable ways of expressing, so you feel confused about what is acceptable and what…
/r/seduction16/09/13 03:50 PM
6

Meeting women is a skill. The only way to improve a skill is to practice. If you have no experience with women when you meet that "perfect" girl, chances are you'll blow it.
/r/seduction16/09/13 10:04 AM
1

The next time you're going out to a bar with people, just send her an invite earlier in the day. She'll make it if she wants to. The hard work is already done.
/r/seduction16/09/13 10:00 AM
2

One reason she may not have told you that she had a boyfriend is because you didn't make your intentions clear enough. Just a thought. As for how to proceed, I'd tell her that I respect the fact that she's in a relationship, but if that changes in the near future, you'd like to take her out. She can contact you. Otherwise, move on.
/r/seduction16/09/13 09:54 AM
1

I've met guys who were into seduction and talked about it a bit. I even had a girl ask me if I'd read The Game. It's only weird if you make it weird.
/r/seduction16/09/13 12:35 AM
4

Am I the only one who thinks it's strange that she apparently just decides to start dating a guy based on whether he's in the right place at the right time?
/r/seduction16/09/13 12:34 AM
1

In the rare cases girls have scoffed at me not wanting to pay for everything, I just tell them that I don't need to buy their attention and if that's the treatment they expect then I respectfully say goodbye and that's the end of our interaction.
/r/seduction15/09/13 03:50 PM
2

Faking it will only take you so far. It's useful when you're just starting out because it's really hard to be outcome independent and have an abundance mentality if you're coming from a point where you've got zero experience with women. Faking confidence will be enough to get you numbers, K-closes and maybe even some F-closes with drunk girls. It's when you continue having dates that the underlying lack of confidence will manifest itself and the girl will definitely pick up on it and lose intere…
/r/seduction15/09/13 08:44 AM
3

It's unhealthy to build confidence, self-respect, and self-worth? Did you really say that? Anyone who says they have "great inner game" but still thinks they need to rely on routines is talking out of their ass. You're using routines because you aren't comfortable just being yourself, so you feel the need to paint the picture that you're a confident person without actually taking the time to build a confident character. You can say and do the dumbest shit on the planet, but if you do it confiden…
/r/seduction15/09/13 08:01 AM
1

She probably does expect free dinner. It will probably be a surprise that you're not going to pay for her. You're pushing this girl off the fence. Either she decides right away that this is something that is acceptable to her or not. You're screening her. If she finds it unacceptable, and you're looking for a girl that doesn't need you to spend lots of money on her, then she's obviously not that girl, and you can move on to the next one without wasting more time, energy, and money on her.
/r/seduction15/09/13 07:08 AM
1

Don't overthink it. A simple "Let's split it," when the check comes is enough. No girl is going to be a big enough bitch to make a big deal about it. I've had girls tell me later that they didn't like it, but they don't want to seem unreasonable when you suggest it.
/r/seduction15/09/13 05:39 AM
1

Split the bill.
/r/seduction15/09/13 01:33 AM
1

I met her in a bar. Our day 2 I took her out for some dinner and drinks and then back to my place. Every meeting after that was either her coming straight over to my place for sex or her coming out to the bar where I was with my friends. I only bought her drinks once we established that we would trade paying for rounds.
/r/seduction13/09/13 08:23 AM
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It's not that she had zero value to me. I just know that when two people want two different things, there's nothing you can do to make it work. Her value to me was purely a physical one. I was not interested in dating her. I'm not worried about losing her because I know I can attract more women. Also, I'm not scared of losing her because I don't need a woman to make me happy. I'm living abroad, working and supporting myself, I've got hobbies that I love doing, and I'm the happiest I've been in m…
/r/seduction13/09/13 04:35 AM
4

It wasn't a face-off. I wasn't trying to "win". That's the wrong mentality to go into this with. I'm not trying to manipulate her into liking me more because she feels she has competition. I was genuinely willing to tell her the truth and let her decide if she wanted to stay or not. She appeared not to, and I was fine with that. I am aware that for some girls, they may think they can "win" my attention by sleeping with me, but that's not my intention. I'm always honest with them about the fact t…
/r/seduction13/09/13 03:58 AM
0

Girls are very concerned about not being perceived as sluts. They may not want to kiss in very public places, especially when it's obvious they've just met someone, as in a bar. Don't make a big deal out of it. Continue talking and having fun. Keep escalating kino with your hands. A lot of these "rejections" just mean "not right now".
/r/seduction13/09/13 02:37 AM
2

No dude has ever done this to me. Is this really a thing?
/r/seduction13/09/13 02:35 AM
2

This is a routine. Routines are bad, m'kay? First of all, you shouldn't be going out "for awhile" without kissing a girl. First or second date at the latest. Secondly, like Curveball said, this shouldn't be a big "movie moment". It doesn't need to have some big build up or awkward "make or break" moment after you've walked her home after a 4 hour coffee date with no kino and you aren't sure how she'll react. Kisses should be natural. It's just the next step in the interaction.
/r/seduction13/09/13 02:32 AM
2

Pulling up was probably the best course of action. I'm all for being forward and sexual with a girl, but if she seems to honestly not want to move further with it, I stop. A lot of times this will show that you're not a creep or butthurt about not getting sex, which will just showcase how confident and outcome independent you are. Invite her out to something soon. Don't mention last time. Just go out and have fun and escalate.
/r/seduction13/09/13 02:29 AM
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I have maintained sexual relationships with two or more women at the same time quite easily. I am always up front on the first date about the fact that I don't want anything serious. Usually that's enough, but sometimes after several dates, they ask if I'm seeing other people, and I always tell the truth. Sure, for some girls that's a deal breaker. You can't help that. You have to be ready to lose some girls. Most recently, I told a girl that I was seeing other people. She got upset and left my …
/r/seduction13/09/13 02:08 AM
2

When it comes to taking girls to bars/parties, you need to split your time. You obviously don't want to be stuck sitting down alone the whole time. That defeats the purpose of going to the bar/party. You're there to be social and have fun. You don't have to bounce around alone. You can bring her along and introduce her to people. Ideally, you should be able to introduce her to some of your other female friends. If they're getting along well, you're free to break off and socialize on your own. As…
/r/seduction12/09/13 05:22 AM
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There are plenty of girls out there who want a simple sexual relationship without a lot of emotional attachment. The key to finding them is to be honest and upfront with what you're looking for. Tell girls the first time you meet them that you're not interested in a serious relationship. If girls don't want to buy, they don't have to. Girls that stick around are obviously comfortable with the idea.
/r/seduction12/09/13 05:11 AM
1

If you're only worried about the social circle, just get someone else's number and use them as an in. Still be friendly with her in person, but don't spend a lot of time texting her. It's just going to make it harder to move on. Honestly though, if you're seeing her in your social circle a lot, that's probably going to be a much larger hurdle for getting over her than texting her would be. I'd take a break. Go out with other people. Make some new friends. Even take off some time and just do you …
/r/seduction12/09/13 05:09 AM
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There's nothing wrong with a simple "Okay" in this context. She's probably not interested and making a huge deal about it by "calling her out" will just show that you're way too invested in what is probably a very short amount of time of knowing her, which just reinforces her lack of attraction. She said that she's busy for a couple weeks, and that may very well be true. Let her sit and after she's done with her shit, tell her you want to take her out. If she dodges again, it's not worth anymore…
/r/seduction12/09/13 05:07 AM
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You asked random strangers you'll never meet to rank you on a scale of 1 - 10. How is that not validation seeking?
/r/seduction12/09/13 05:03 AM
1

You say you want to end the conversation. You know the easiest way to do that? Stop replying. You're not even saying anything. All of your responses are worthless. Obviously, if you're not interested in having a conversation that's fine. But if you're really not interested, why are you having one in the first place? If you're giving bullshit replies, why give them at all? If you can't think of/don't want to say anything better than what essentially boils down to "OK", then it's not worth sending…
/r/seduction12/09/13 05:01 AM
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She expressed this concern to you directly? Just say "Okay." Honestly, if she's bringing sex up, it's because she's thinking about it. I can't tell you the number of times when I picked up a girl and she told me "We're not having sex." Pretty much all of those times, sex happened. She may be genuinely concerned about the issue of what you think of her, or it may just be some way of her trying not to seem like a slut for sleeping with you. Regardless, your answer should be the same. Tell her it's…
/r/seduction12/09/13 04:57 AM
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We just went on a date and it went terrible. She's ridiculously boring though. Why do you want to see her again? Honestly. Why put yourself through it? For pussy? There's lots of it out there, and it isn't all with boring Vietnamese girls.
/r/seduction12/09/13 04:53 AM
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I'm 100% honest with girls. It's incredible. All those things you're afraid to tell girls because you think they'll be offended or pissed off aren't nearly as big of an issue as you'd think. A girl recently asked if I was sleeping with other people, and I said yes. She was a bit upset, but that just made her try harder for my attention. Ultimately, I broke it off with her because she wanted a different kind of relationship than me and I didn't want to lead her on. I'd feel a bit guilty continuin…
/r/seduction12/09/13 04:51 AM
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I mean, the person who says "I don't use the HB scale" is an unattractive person that wouldn't warrant an HB rating. Which makes it more annoying when you say it. The whole "I'm not attractive" routine is such bullshit. You've got a fucking six pack and there's no glaring deformity with your face. You look fine. Shut the fuck up. You're fishing for compliments and it's crazy how validation seeking that is.
/r/seduction12/09/13 04:44 AM
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Jesus, how long was that text message.
/r/seduction12/09/13 04:41 AM
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I would firstly like to state that I have no intention of defining beauty or attractiveness in this post. Everyone is beautiful and unique in their own way God, you sound like a faggot. The only people who have a problem with the HB scale probably don't deserve to be on it.
/r/seduction12/09/13 04:28 AM
2

You can number close within five minutes. It's not really a big deal. Approach a girl, have a normal conversation, then say you have to leave but you want to see her again. Hand her your phone and she'll put the number in.
/r/seduction11/09/13 10:36 AM
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I was just realistic. I found them physically attractive, but I didn't have any desire to date them long term. We both decided together that they were only physical relationships and that if we found someone we wanted to date that we'd end our arrangement without hard feelings.
/r/seduction11/09/13 03:59 AM
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Seems like you're pretty sensitive. You got all bent out of shape because a girl was talking to someone else. Then you told her you'd beat the shit out of someone if you saw her talking to them again? That's how abusive relationships start. Violence is not a desirable character trait.
/r/seduction11/09/13 02:53 AM
0

Trust me. I've fucked plenty of girls and not really cared if they stuck around or not.
/r/seduction11/09/13 02:51 AM
1

Ultimately, I'm interested in a committed relationship, but I'm always able to tell right away with a girl if it's going to last or not. Obviously, most don't last long, but I still date them for fun. And I still feel the need to go out and meet that person that I will date for awhile. If you're still tempted to go out there and seduce women, I don't think it's necessarily that there's something wrong with how you've acted. It's just that how you act is demonstrating you're not completely happy …
/r/seduction09/09/13 10:47 AM
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Honestly, it seems pretty good to me. It's about as much as you can do with an OKC number. She may not be responding because she's busy. Don't flip out. She's expressed interest in meeting. Just let it sit for awhile. If she doesn't respond, give it a couple days and try again. Change the frame a bit by saying you'd like to do it at X day/time/place rather than asking her when she's free. If she is busy and suggests another time then you're fine. If she makes an excuse and doesn't offer a second…
/r/seduction07/09/13 07:50 AM
2

Intentionally bumping people is unnecessary. Hand on the back of the shoulder, smile and say excuse me. You can move anyone out of your way without coming off as an entitled twat. Whenever I go to a bar solo, I don't waste any time sitting down or lurking around the edges of the scene "scoping" it out. It isolates you from people and gives you a lot of opportunity to psyche yourself out. You're going to be concentrating on how weird it is that you're there alone instead of doing what you should …
/r/seduction07/09/13 07:43 AM
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My point is that talking, essentially doesn't matter. Especially if you're running night game. Do you remember the first conversation you had with someone? Probably not. But you remember the overall feelings that person gave you. Whatever impression they made is what was important. This thread cuts exactly to the heart of what I'm talking about. As for how I approach, I generally pick up women on the dance floor. It's loud as shit, so long conversations are impossible and pointless. I get out th…
/r/seduction06/09/13 09:14 AM
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I rarely use canned routines because they're just crutches. It does give you something to say, but the problem with routines is that they're hypothetical plans that very rarely will coincide with perfect situation you've crafted in your head. Of course, in your head, every girl you approach will be open and interested and say exactly what you want to make the interaction go smoothly. And what happens when she's closed-off, uninterested, and says the opposite of what you want? You're left standin…
/r/seduction06/09/13 04:21 AM
1

I think I'm pretty average for the most part, but a lot of girls tell me I'm cute. I'm in my mid-20s, as are most of the people in the bar scene around me. I think it's easy as hell to do. All you have to do is go out and have fun and approaches will happen naturally.
/r/seduction06/09/13 12:11 AM
1

Kino when you first meet her. If she's taken or the attention is otherwise unwanted, she'll let you know. You can't know if she'll be receptive or not just looking at her from across the room. You have to make the move and find out. It's not creepy. It's just how things are.
/r/seduction05/09/13 04:34 AM
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You're going on friendly hangouts because you're not clear enough with your intentions. Even if you don't like being super direct (I assume because you're uncomfortable with the thought of being rejected), you can use kino to tell her your intentions. If you're always touching girls, they know exactly what you're about. If they're interested, great. If not, they'll let you know. I've had plenty of girls tell me that I'm "too touchy-feely", and that was fine. I understood what they meant and we m…
/r/seduction05/09/13 03:35 AM
2

Just tell her you forgot your name. So many people who come here are over-thinking shit way too much. You don't need a smooth, clever line or a the "perfect neg" for every situation. Just be in the moment and honest. What you say when you meet a girl for the first time literally does not matter at all. Who remembers the first conversation they ever had with a person? No one. It's more important to approach confidently and be fun.
/r/seduction05/09/13 03:30 AM
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I like to use a girl's hand to explain geography. I live abroad so most girls don't know where Ohio is, but it can work with directions anywhere: Her: Where's Ohio? Me: Gimme your hand. Well, here's California, and here's New York, so Ohio is right here in the middle! Also, because I live abroad, I will ask the locals to "teach me" Korean. I always opt for body parts. I ask them by touching a body part. I start with neutral things like, arm, shoulder, back, etc... and move to legs, hands, face, …
/r/seduction05/09/13 03:24 AM
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Play the Question Game. Ask personal questions and no question can be repeated. It's extremely easy to escalate verbally with this game. You're obviously not asking boring shit like their job, hobbies, etc... Focus on experiences. Most embarrassing, most fun, dirtiest, kinkiest, etc... Even little questions like "Where are you ticklish?" are a lot of fun to ask.
/r/seduction05/09/13 03:15 AM
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it's only downhill once you leave college They say the same thing about high school. At 25 years old and four years out of college, I'm happier than I've ever been. Life only goes downhill when you decide it does. More on your point of approaching in a bar, when I go out to the bar, my first goal is to have fun. For me, that means dancing. As soon as I get into the bar, I push into the most crowded part of the dance floor and just go crazy. I don't worry about other people at all. Generally, aft…
/r/seduction05/09/13 02:57 AM
6

You think you need to sleep with X number of girls to get over a past relationship? wat
/r/seduction05/09/13 02:53 AM
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If you still have feelings for her, cutting ties is the only thing you can do. Anything else and you'll be causing yourself unnecessary pain and conflict. If you're genuinely okay with it, treat them as a friend. Invite them out to shit. Introduce them to people. Have them introduce you to friends. I dated a girl a couple months and we both decided to just be friends and it's fine, because we were both on the same page about what we wanted. If it's a girl you barely know, like a rando you've had…
/r/seduction04/09/13 02:55 PM
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I understand your position on why you didn't sleep with her, but I think it's a little over-cautious. Girls will often play up their drunkness -- Oh my god, I'm like SO drunk! -- because it gives them a convenient excuse to act in a way that would generally be seen as "slutty". It lets them off the hook. My general rule of thumb for drunk hook-ups is that if they can talk without slurring their words and can walk under their own power, they're good to go.
/r/seduction04/09/13 12:52 AM
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The easiest solution to all of this is just being honest with both of them. If they haven't asked about exclusivity, you can bring it up yourself. I usually do this on the first date. Just tell them you're looking to have fun, keep things casual, don't want anything serious or exclusive, etc... They'll get the picture. You don't have to get into details, but if they ask for them, be honest about how many girls you're seeing, when, if you're using protection, etc... For some girls, this will be a…
/r/seduction03/09/13 06:04 AM
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Stop playing parts and be who you want to be. Don't try to be the guy that you think girls are attracted to. I made the same mistake my first year into gaming. I had some success, but it was hollow and eventually failed. Decide what kind of person you want to be and make decisive steps towards becoming that person.
/r/seduction03/09/13 04:55 AM
1

The best way to avoid becoming irrationally attached to one girl too early on is to be seeing multiple girls. I still have these weird pangs of over-emotion, but as soon as I go out on a date with another girl, I realize that the previous one wasn't anything super special that I should be getting bent out of shape over.
/r/seduction03/09/13 04:53 AM
0

"Okay." This literally happened to me last night. A FWB came over and she asked if it was okay not to have sex because her gums her from the dentist. I thought it was a pretty weak excuse, but okay. I just said it was fine and didn't ask about it or push her into anything. We watched a couple episodes of Doctor Who, then I told her it was time for bed. After a couple minutes of just laying in the dark, she started rubbing my chest, rubbing my arms, and ever so slowly worked her hand inside my bo…
/r/seduction03/09/13 04:46 AM
3

I think you're completely missing the point.
/r/seduction03/09/13 04:44 AM
2

I'm always 100% honest. This weekend I was on a date and we played the Question Game on and off. She asked a couple questions I wouldn't have answered a couple years ago. One was about the kinkiest thing I was into (anal) and the other was about a moment I wish I could re-live over and over (something involving an ex). When I was an AFC I never would've said either of these things to a new date in fear that I'd offend or creep her out. It went really well. Found out she's open to anal and she's …
/r/seduction02/09/13 12:43 AM
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I think you're spending a lot more time worrying about this than you need to. Most of the time I open girls it's just with a simple hi. You don't need to spend time thinking up "perfect openers". Just talk to women.
/r/seduction02/09/13 12:34 AM
1

That's the kind of attitude that will just perpetuate more disrespectful behavior. She treats you like shit and you're still going after her for whatever reason.
/r/seduction01/09/13 03:24 PM
4

I think it's better to tell her you'd like to see her again -- not ask if she wants to -- and invite her to do something at a specific time and place, rather than leave it open ended, e.g. "Let's get together sometime." It's overall just much more confident and leading. It locks her in and gives her less chance to flake.
/r/seduction01/09/13 02:39 PM
1

I see nothing wrong with how you handled being stood up. It's one of the most disrespectful things a girl can do. Do you really want to spend time with someone who doesn't respect you?
/r/seduction01/09/13 02:36 PM
2

Why didn't you invite her to one of those fun things you were doing?
/r/seduction01/09/13 02:34 PM
3

Welcome to the 21st century.
/r/seduction01/09/13 02:29 PM
1

You have a lot of issues you need to work out.
/r/seduction01/09/13 01:52 PM
12

You need to send more than just "hey girl". How is someone supposed to respond to that? Fucking say something.
/r/seduction31/08/13 05:15 AM
2

You can do whatever you want with game. If that means you're banging a new girl every weekend and never talking to them again, so be it. You can just as easily apply it to more serious dating and finding girls that you actually want to date exclusively.
/r/seduction31/08/13 05:02 AM
1

The reason you've only dated shitty girls is because you treat them like shit.
/r/seduction31/08/13 02:30 AM
1

Don't need her for anything. I'm done seeing her.
/r/seduction31/08/13 02:28 AM
1

You're not dating someone. You say you're dating someone. How is that not lying?
/r/seduction31/08/13 02:27 AM
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Basically this guy says that you have two options: either go out and approach ten thousand women and learn everything there is to learn or read the book and learn in a few days what took him 5 years... He opens with this statement, like he's got some insider secret to getting women, then apparently his whole technique is "approach lots of women". So, basically, you just chose not to talk to women to read this book... which tells you to talk to women. No specific techniques given. Nothing about k…
/r/seduction30/08/13 06:57 AM
1

There are plenty of girls I am unable to see during the week because of schedules. When do I text them? The weekend when we're both available. Texting is for logistics, not building attraction. Unnecessary texting just moves you into the friendzone. You become a source of low pressure attention. Even if you ask her out, rejecting someone through a text is very low pressure.
/r/seduction30/08/13 02:55 AM
0

Would you ask a fish how to catch a fish? No. Ask a fisherman. Don't ask women for advice on women. They're terrible. Ask men. Successful men.
/r/seduction30/08/13 02:52 AM
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No. This sub is not about manipulating or tricking women into sleeping with you. It's about self-development and techniques you can use you make a better version of yourself that is more attractive to women.
/r/seduction30/08/13 02:51 AM
3

You're creating a fictional situation. That's what we call "making stuff up".
/r/seduction30/08/13 02:49 AM
1

Oh, buddy. Let's see... spent a good 24 hours getting to know her better Over text? Trash. Get to know her in person. Texting is the lowest form of communication. asked her what she was doing... I send her a text asking her what her weekday plans look like There's nothing confident about this. Don't ask when she's free. Just say you want to see her on X day at Y time to do Z. She can take it or leave it. If has a legit excuse not to go but is still interested, she'll suggest another time. Im not…
/r/seduction30/08/13 02:41 AM
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1) Making plans like this is useless because real life never happens like you plan. You'll make the perfect scenario in your head, and it just won't happen. You'll just stand there like a dick not knowing what to say because she didn't respond like you planned she would. 2) Inviting her over to cook for her in the first five minutes you meet her? Creepy. Stick with inviting her to another public venue.
/r/seduction30/08/13 02:33 AM
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Being touchy is fine. The sooner you touch a girl the better. But if she says she doesn't like it, you need to realize the contact is unwanted and stop. Don't let this be a reason for you not to kino a girl the first time you meet her. I touch girls the second I meet them.
/r/seduction30/08/13 02:31 AM
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Anyways that is my shitty review :) ... Shitty review for what sounds like shitty material. Fitting.
/r/seduction30/08/13 02:24 AM
1

She was super high maintenance girl that wanted me to pay for everything. I took her out and we had a good time for awhile. Around 3 AM, I was getting tired, so I was like, "Let's go home." She said she didn't want to. She had already spent the night at my place, so I had just assumed that would happen again. That was my mistake. I asked her how she envisioned the night ending, and she said she was going to stay out all night and take the subway home in the morning. She went on saying that she w…
/r/seduction30/08/13 12:13 AM
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You didn't give us much information to go off of. I'd just suggest to make it really easy for him. Invite him to watch a movie at your place. If he turns that down, yeah, he's not interested.
/r/seduction29/08/13 02:04 PM
1

You say that, but a lot of seduction shit seems a bit silly when you write it down. In the heat of the moment, particularly if you're drunk in a bar and being flirty, shit like this will go over very well.
/r/seduction29/08/13 03:50 AM
2

The only drawback with getting the kiss first and then the number is that it can lead to missed opportunities. I think we've all been in a situation where we've hit it off with a girl and maybe even gotten a kiss, but then she just disappears. She gets dragged away by her friends, she has some emergency, etc... and you never get the number. I get the number pretty early in the interaction, keep interacting, and get the kiss later.
/r/seduction29/08/13 03:48 AM
1

I usually don't say anything. Most of the women I pick up are in bars. I just open my phone to the dialing screen and hand it to them and wait. I don't think it's ever not worked.
/r/seduction29/08/13 03:47 AM
1

Good. Always good. Never back down. Don't apologize or make excuses for the action. Hold the motherfucking line. Strong eye contact, smile, and wait.
/r/seduction29/08/13 03:45 AM
1

Experimenting to see if Facebook game on a girl 150 miles away that you'll most likely never see again is like experimenting to see if your left shoe will fit on your right foot. Even if it works, what's the fucking point? Also, take "Just kidding" out of your vocabulary. It's just one of those unnecessary, ass-covering apology techniques that chumps use to make sure they aren't offending some girl. Also, lose all the hahas. Are you twelve? I usually hate text game. The only success I ever had w…
/r/seduction29/08/13 03:41 AM
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I've had several girls who saw that I wasn't going to appease them like every other AFC they'd ever met, which made them much more interested, attracted, and compliant. It's just a higher form of shit tests. And them some girls are just super high maintenance and not worth the trouble.
/r/seduction28/08/13 08:30 AM
1

Certainly. I usually casually mention something on the first date that I want to be casual and fun, not serious. That in itself may prompt the question of whether or not I'm seeing anyone. Other times, after going on several dates with a girl, she will ask if I'm seeing anyone. This was the last time I had the conversation. I've had it many times before. For some girls, that's a deal breaker. They want something serious and exclusive, and that's okay. It's just not what I want. At that point, it…
/r/seduction28/08/13 06:46 AM
1

I just see it raising issues down the line. If you give off this "boyfriend vibe" and then they later realize that you're still running game on other girls, they're going to be pissed. I'm very open with what I want with girls. I tell them right away that I don't want anything serious or exclusive. Most of all, I don't treat them like girlfriends. No fucking hand holding or baby names. Don't take them on dates. The most they get is an invitation to a bar I'll be meeting my friends at anyway. Any…
/r/seduction28/08/13 04:42 AM
3

She was obviously just attention seeking. I recently had a couple dates with a girl who had "rules" about when she'd be "allowed" to sleep with me. We had a calm discussion about it, and I told her when I finished my drink, I was leaving. She could either come with (not expecting sex) or stay the bar. Finished my drink and left. Next day she was livid saying she couldn't believe that I just left her there and that I didn't respect her. I just replied that we want different things and that we sho…
/r/seduction28/08/13 04:39 AM
1

It sounds like she just wants attention. I'd pass on it. You're looking at her through the rose-colored glasses of memory. I'm sure there's lots of things about her that actually annoyed you, too. Just be happy with the girls you're banging now, and if you aren't, go get some new ones. No need to dwell on past girls that didn't work out.
/r/seduction28/08/13 04:32 AM
3

Lifelong atheist. When it comes to seduction, I think any confidence people get from religion would be negated completely by the extremely sex-negative mindset of all major Western religions and even some Eastern ones.
/r/seduction28/08/13 04:26 AM
6

Every time I hear someone complain about the HB scale, I hear a whiny pussy. I don't even use it. But don't fucking act preachy and self-righteous about it. It's just as annoying as vegans.
/r/seduction28/08/13 04:16 AM
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Chatting for an hour on the phone? Barf. I mean, if you want to be "boyfriend material" go ahead, but if I'm just looking to hit it and quit it, that's way too much fucking energy.
/r/seduction28/08/13 04:12 AM
2

This is my take on it. I generally only see women once a week. I don't waste a lot of time texting, because it's the lowest form of communication. Build all the attraction and comfort in person. Don't be scared she's going to "cool off". Perhaps she may, but that just means the in person interaction wasn't as strong as it needed to be, not that you need to text her more.
/r/seduction28/08/13 04:09 AM
18

"Ugh, pickup your phone you slut!, I was gonna tell you how hard my cock is for you" Please tell me you don't really say that.
/r/seduction27/08/13 12:08 PM
5

One of my FWBs said that one thing she really liked is when I hugged her because it felt like a "real man".
/r/seduction27/08/13 01:39 AM
1

The point is if you build a fun and productive filled life which you love, people will love you for it. Then you can utilize pick up to get the kind of women you want not just for getting a woman in the first place I couldn't agree more. In the past couple years, I've gone from no women, to "getting lucky", to "picking girls up", to going out on a couple dates and turning women down because they weren't what I was looking for. A couple years ago, if you had told me I'd be turning girls down, I'd…
/r/seduction26/08/13 03:07 PM
2

I'm out of college and I meet girls either at the bar or through sites like OKC. It's pretty easy. College would make it even easier. House parties, classes, libraries, etc... All prime places for meeting people. If you're day-gaming, just get a number and invite her to a party. Once you're at the party go for a K-close, then bounce as soon as you can. Don't bother making out for 40 minutes before you ask her if she wants to leave.
/r/seduction26/08/13 11:50 AM
2

Too loud to talk? Don't! Let body language, facial expressions, and your energy speak for themselves.
/r/seduction26/08/13 11:38 AM
2

I don't see why it's necessary to say anything honestly. I've never said any lines to "close" a kiss. I just look at them, put my hand under their chin and pull them in.
/r/seduction26/08/13 04:50 AM
1

I've had several break ups due to distance and it sucks shit hardcore. I'm still coming to terms with the most recent one. I realize it's selfish of me to want to keep a relationship going at this point, but it's hard not to want to see her. So it goes.
/r/seduction26/08/13 04:29 AM
2

Little bit. I mean, it's a pretty small hole. You can't get real deep.
/r/seduction26/08/13 03:55 AM
2

It looks god on paper, but I just don't think I'd do it personally. It feels very try hard.
/r/seduction26/08/13 01:07 AM
2

Lick, suck, or nibble the lobe or the ridge. Use your tongue and lick the inside of their ear. Shit gets girls hot.
/r/seduction26/08/13 01:06 AM
-6

Cool story, bro.
/r/seduction25/08/13 04:08 PM
14

It's worth noting that I don't do this in public. I'm actually not a big fan of excessive PDA. Kissing is all right, but I just think it looks classless to get into a gropey make out in public. This is the shit I use once we're already back at my place. If we're talking about a public make out, perhaps in a more isolated area, I'd suggest very light, sensual touches. Barely trace your fingertips over her bare skin. Arms, legs, back, neck, face, etc... I've always thought for public make outs, yo…
/r/seduction25/08/13 03:31 PM
6

A lot of guys will suggest you give some "clever" or "smooth" line. Honestly, I hate it. You're essentially still adopting her frame of her being higher than you and that you are trying to impress her. You're looking for the perfect key to unlock her pants. I'm not saying that you should act superior to her, either. Just that you're on equal ground and you don't have to impress her. Agreeing and amplifying can be fun, but it's easy to over do. Honestly, most of the time I just ignore shit tests.…
/r/seduction25/08/13 02:43 PM
19

You shouldn't be only kissing her. You gotta be using those hands, son. Don't only kiss her mouth. Kiss, suck, nibble, and lick those ears and neck. That's a huge turn on for a lot of girls. I've heard a lot of audible sighs just from neck/ear work alone. As for your hands, obviously using them on her chest and ass is a no brainer. Don't just tweak nipples, but pay attention to each whole breast. Don't just squeeze the ass, but give it some little spanks. I don't generally like to do a lot of ov…
/r/seduction25/08/13 02:34 PM
1

It depends on the vibe. If she seems super shy and reserved, keep it simple with a handshake. Other times if she seems super warm, I'll just pull her in for a hug and a kiss on one cheek.
/r/seduction25/08/13 01:50 AM
20

I would say that most of the time, it's best to just ignore it. Don't respond to it at all. She's probably just seeking a reaction. Don't give it to her. That being said, there needs to be a line. I'll give you a for instance. For instance, last year I was chatting with a girl at a bar and her friend came up: Her: Hey, would you buy us some shooters? Me: How about you buy me a shooter? Smile and shrug it off, then continued talking to her friend. Thirty seconds later: Her: No, seriously, are you…
/r/seduction23/08/13 02:55 AM
2

Do you mean physically being alone in a public place or not being in a relationship? Either way, it boils down to doing things that you enjoy. If you don't like clubs, don't fucking go just because that's where you're "supposed to" go to pick up girls. Do shit you want to do. Get hobbies. Learn some shit you always wanted to know. I had a fair amount of success with women based on the "fake it until you make it" approach, but a lot of it was hollow success. It wasn't until I started doing things…
/r/seduction23/08/13 02:47 AM
2

When you get to the club, start dancing immediately. I go to clubs alone fairly often. My trick for enjoying it and not becoming a wall flower is to immediately dance. Walk to the single most crowded part of the dance floor just feel the energy and start grooving. After that, shit is simple. Make eye contact, smile, approach.
/r/seduction23/08/13 02:33 AM
3

Treat her like a friend. I just got rejected last night. I made out with a girl in a bar and set up a Day 2. I went to hold her hand, and she said we should just be friends. Shrug it off. Invited her to come see me do some comedy on Sunday. It's no skin off my nuts. I barely know her and she barely knows me. It's not like I harbored feelings for a year and got invested and had unrealistic expectations. Her rejection doesn't reflect anything about me. It just means that for whatever reason she wa…
/r/seduction23/08/13 02:31 AM
2

See my reply.
/r/seduction22/08/13 07:06 AM
4

You can read up on escalation ladders, but it basically starts with short, innocent "friendly" touches. A light touch on the arm, shoulder, or upper back, etc... Letting these touches linger longer as continue the conversation. Eventually move to more sensual areas, such as lower back, legs, hands, stomach, neck, face, etc... If a girl is letting you touch her these places, a kiss is all but guaranteed. From the kiss to the bedroom, now you're working on showing sexual intent, rather than just p…
/r/seduction22/08/13 07:06 AM
29

And here's a great example of what not to do, everyone. Take note.
/r/seduction22/08/13 02:38 AM
0

Cool story, bro.
/r/seduction22/08/13 02:37 AM
3

The biggest change for me was kino and escalation. I was all right at talking to girls and being social, but I never made any of my advances sexual. I just started touching everyone to get into the habit. It's become so natural now that not touching people seems weird and uncomfortable. After that, you just have to let the touching speak for itself. Ramp it up and see how far she's willing to go.
/r/seduction22/08/13 02:35 AM
1

It's shit we all deal with from time to time. Sometimes, when I'm at a club and a girl I was hitting on starts making out with another dude, I get a flash of jealousy. I just have to force myself to remember my emotions are irrational and make a concerted effort to enjoy myself at any cost.
/r/seduction22/08/13 02:12 AM
2

If the sex isn't satisfying, don't have it. Stop seeing them. If they ask why you don't want to see them, be honest but tactful. Say you have different physical needs/interests and that you aren't well-matched for each other.
/r/seduction21/08/13 07:39 AM
3

You're jealous because you feel entitled to her. You told your friend you liked her and placed a bookmark on her. You claimed her for your own. And then you didn't do anything to make it actually happen. You have to come to terms with the fact that your feelings of jealousy are completely unfounded. She doesn't owe you anything, and neither does he. No matter how much you say you are attracted to her, he has no reason not to make a move on her if he can see that you're never going to make a move…
/r/seduction21/08/13 07:36 AM
9

Is English this dude's second language? Lots of mistakes, and some of it sounded super unnatural. Some of the dialogue was just cringe-worthy.
/r/seduction21/08/13 05:02 AM
0

I live in Seoul. I've had pretty decent success meeting Korean girls that are into casual relationships, but I'm white, so there's that. I treat them pretty much like I would any girl. Some people say that Asian girls are more conservative, but what it really is is that they're much more concerned with their image. They may not want to show a lot of affection to you at first because they don't want to be labeled a slut, but isolate them and they'll be downright dirty. Just last night I K-closed …
/r/seduction18/08/13 04:21 AM
1

Don't. They shouldn't get some special treatment for being girls. I don't enjoy spending time around racist people. If a girl is being overtly racist, I just walk away. There's no reason to waste my time with her.
/r/seduction16/08/13 03:29 AM
2

Sounds like a pretty typical Korean girl. The boyfriend may be invented or across the ocean. Just ignore it. Treat her like you would any girl that you'd game. If she gives you a more serious "No, really, I have a boyfriend. You should stop," line, respect and use her as a pivot to meet her hot friends.
/r/seduction15/08/13 11:04 AM
1

For the most part, it can be stopped by ignoring it and not reacting to it. If you get all butthurt, people are going to continue to do it because your overreaction is entertaining. On the other hand, you have to have a limit. You can't just let people make fun of you non-stop. When something crosses a line, you need to tell people in a level-headed manner. Don't blow up and scream, but just calmly explain that you don't appreciate their remark.
/r/seduction15/08/13 10:54 AM
1

If the guy is a personal friend of mine, I wouldn't pursue anything with her. I wouldn't want to betray a friend's trust like that. If it could cause significant fallout within my social circle, I probably wouldn't do it. I might if she was really hot, but probably not. If it's just a random girl in a bar that I'll never see again? Why not. I'm not the reason her relationship is failing. It's already going down the shitter. If it wasn't me, it'd just be someone else.
/r/seduction14/08/13 04:03 AM
1

I'm a teacher. I've heard that recently Sincheon is getting really popular. I might check it out. Any specific directions?
/r/seduction12/08/13 10:37 AM
1

Don't need to respond at all. She's dodging the question. She's not interested.
/r/seduction12/08/13 03:56 AM
4

Ugh this is awful.
/r/seduction12/08/13 03:52 AM
4

Getting in the habit of negging this often is going to hurt you in the long run. You may not realize it, but you're eventually going to cross over into uncomfortable territory for people who will just think you're an asshole. Most girls aren't really interested in being constantly criticized. Save it for the super hot babes that are used to guys falling over each other to stroke their egos and a neg will go a long way to getting her attention.
/r/seduction12/08/13 03:49 AM
2

I thought the game was a bit of a gamble. If we didn't hit it off it could've been awkward sitting next to someone for a couple hours. It wasn't weird though. It was a pretty fun time. Here in Korea baseball games a lot more interactive than back home.
/r/seduction11/08/13 11:07 PM
4

My success with women has been part of it, but the biggest part of it has been going out and becoming a person I want to be. I looked at the people I admired and emulated them. I took the things I always wanted to learn how to do and I started doing them. In the past three months I've started doing stand up comedy at open mics and learning how to box at a gym. I work hard at my job and I take pride in doing it well. I have learned what kind of relationship I want and I pursue it.
/r/seduction11/08/13 02:59 PM
1

I moved to South Korea. I was still young, but I'm about to turn 26 and I moved from my first city to Seoul. Living in a city like Seoul is amazing, but it was a big step away from a very comfortable life with a smaller foreign community. I've met people mainly just at bars and I'm getting to know people in the stand up community, so that's pretty cool.
/r/seduction11/08/13 06:16 AM
5

Yes. Exactly. I laid out my terms and if she sticks around under some misguided attempt to "win" me away from other girls, that's all on her. She even asked me if I would "give up" the other girls (before she left and returned) and I said no.
/r/seduction11/08/13 03:47 AM
4

I'm aware of this. I'm okay with her thinking that. If she wants to stick around and fuck me, I won't argue with her. I have been honest with her the whole time, so if she gets upset that I haven't changed, it's all on her.
/r/seduction11/08/13 03:45 AM
2

I love this.
/r/seduction11/08/13 03:43 AM
2

She does seem really inexperienced when it comes to dating. I do kind of want to show her what it's like to date someone who's actually mature.
/r/seduction11/08/13 03:42 AM
18

I know what you're saying. I didn't literally mean the girl thought "His honesty is making my panties drip like a St. Bernard's mouth," but it's how I displayed my sense of self worth and confidence.
/r/seduction10/08/13 09:48 AM
1

The girl I took home was Korean-American. She lived in Korea until she was 14 and then moved to the States. She is fairly American in culture and manners, but she does lean to the conservative side. In general, most people will tell you that Korean society is very conservative, and there are good reasons. When it comes to women however, I wouldn't call them any more conservative than American women. The biggest difference is that in Korea they care much more about appearances. They don't want to…
/r/seduction10/08/13 09:40 AM
9

Feels good man.
/r/seduction10/08/13 06:50 AM
16

The world you live in is the one you create. I've spent a lot of time on personal development. Not just pick up, but becoming a person I want to be in all areas of my life. It's boosted my self-confidence like crazy. A year or two ago, I would've dreaded a conversation like this. I would be afraid that if I was honest I'd lose the girl. Not because she was the love of my life, but because underneath everything, I would've been afraid that I wouldn't be able to get another girl. Now my abundance …
/r/seduction10/08/13 05:05 AM
17

For the past year and a half, I've been constantly involved with someone somehow. Whether it's an exclusive relationship or fuck buddy, I've always had someone I could call. The longest I've gone without sex in the last 16 months is two weeks. Even so, I've had a couple one night stands here and there. Whenever I felt like going out and picking up a girl, I made a point to not approach girls for awhile. I'd spend a couple hours just hanging with my buddies, drinking and having a good time. When …
/r/seduction10/08/13 03:15 AM
1

Well, when she's not interested nothing will yield a positive result. The best thing you can do is move on, but maintain a friendly relationship in case you run into her in a bar. Then you can use her as a pivot to meet her hot friends.
/r/seduction09/08/13 11:52 AM
1

Sounds like a lack of kino and poor logistics. I never do dinner/coffee dates for a first date. It becomes two people sitting across from each other yakking. Just invite her out for drinks. Sit at the bar so you can sit next to her. Kino early and often.
/r/seduction09/08/13 03:56 AM
3

Plain and simple, she wants your attention. She just wants to know if you're still wrapped around her little finger. She doesn't have any desire to be with you again. She just wants to have power of your. Don't give her that satisfaction. Don't even respond to the text. Just delete it and move on with your life.
/r/seduction09/08/13 03:49 AM
1

Freeze out means to cut off all physical, sexual contact. It's mainly a tool for fighting last minute resistance when you're trying to sleep with a girl. It's not really going to work if she's not that interested in you in the first place, which is exactly what this sounds like.
/r/seduction09/08/13 03:44 AM
1

Just invite her over. It's not a big deal.
/r/seduction08/08/13 04:48 AM
1

Don't go out to pick up women in their company. It's that simple.
/r/seduction07/08/13 04:21 AM
7

Don't. Honestly. Why waste your time talking to a girl miles and miles away when there are plenty of girls close to your home you could be gaming?
/r/seduction06/08/13 03:41 AM
2

Ignore everyone else. Don't go to a club just because you think the girls will be hot even though you hate hip hop. Go to a place that plays the music you like. Singing along to music makes the whole experience much more enjoyable for me. If I'm dancing to music I don't know/enjoy, it's just going through the motion without any enjoyment. When you're having fun, it'll be written all over your face. People will see it and pick up on it. If you put out that fun vibe, you'll have people approaching…
/r/seduction06/08/13 03:38 AM
1

While I agree with the sentiment that you shouldn't feel forced to socialize in a specific way or place to be "normal", he never said he didn't want to dance. He just said he was bad at it.
/r/seduction06/08/13 03:35 AM
4

I wouldn't even waste my time. I find it incredibly draining to have to "carry" the interaction. I can't really stand being around shy people.
/r/seduction06/08/13 12:07 AM
2

Most guys have no idea what they're doing or how to read women. Telegraph your signals like crazy. If you think you couldn't be more obvious, you can. I know a lot of advice here seems to suggest the best girls to approach are the ones that are alone, sitting by themselves in a bar, looking bored, etc... but honestly I find those girls boring as hell. The ones that I want to approach are the ones that are out having fun and putting out a high-energy vibe.
/r/seduction05/08/13 04:25 AM
2

Super dead community, though.
/r/seduction05/08/13 04:23 AM
1

I wouldn't give a chess grandmaster a 1 on a super awesome basketball player just because he exists. It's not applicable at all.
/r/seduction05/08/13 04:17 AM
1

If you were to take a test and score 10% on a test, would you call that desirable? I'm not the OP. I'm from Ohio, not LA. Being short on its own doesn't make someone unattractive. However, short and fat does. If you want to feel self-righteous go ahead, but we all judge people based on their looks before we meet them.
/r/seduction05/08/13 04:14 AM
2

A waste of time for ugly people.
/r/seduction05/08/13 04:09 AM
1

What part of short and fat entitles her to be ranked on the hot babe scale?
/r/seduction05/08/13 04:03 AM
3

Getting fucked up and picking up women are mutually exclusive. If you're going to do one, don't even bother trying to do the other.
/r/seduction05/08/13 04:02 AM
1

Why would she? She's short and fat.
/r/seduction05/08/13 03:58 AM
4

"I'm not looking for anything serious right now. I just want to keep this casual." Don't overthink it. Just put it out there for her to take or leave. Sooner, rather than later. A lot more girls than you'd think are cool with it. If they aren't, oh well. You can't do anything about that. Lying about what you want to fuck them will only create more trouble in the future. If she says no and you want to keep her around as a friend, then do it. Treat her like a friend. Invite her out to the bar. Don…
/r/seduction04/08/13 05:12 AM
1

I go out in Hongdae alone all the time and it's fantastic. The problem was the venue. Rooms at night clubs are a group thing. I feel really shifty about booking, anyway. Are you Korean or Korean American? Also, I'm super skeptical about the success you'd have with day game on the street. Koreans are very closed-off to strangers during the day. Approaching a girl that didn't know you would probably just make her really uncomfortable.
/r/seduction04/08/13 05:09 AM
1

This is spot on. I have plenty of interactions with girls with prolonged silences. Particularly when I'm running night game at a bar. I just dance and put out a high energy vibe. There's really no need to talk. When you're on a 1-on-1 with a girl for a Day 2, I'll still do it. I'm comfortable enough that I don't feel like I'm obligated to entertain a girl.
/r/seduction04/08/13 04:31 AM
3

Most of those were loaded into the first two hours. I don't really think I drank anything after 1 AM. I got slightly buzzed at the most, but I was still in control and I had the sense to stop drinking once I started hitting on women. I know from plenty of experience that hitting on women when I'm sloppy drunk is a recipe for disaster.
/r/seduction04/08/13 04:09 AM
6

I thought I'd have pussy throw itself at me here. First year, I didn't get laid once. Being white gets attention, but you still have to know how to guide the interactions to lead anywhere.
/r/seduction04/08/13 04:06 AM
3

I guess it is. I like going back and re-reading old FRs, even from a couple months ago.
/r/seduction04/08/13 03:59 AM
7

To be fair, the girl I picked up was American.
/r/seduction04/08/13 03:57 AM
2

They were both hard to read. They would go through short phases of seeming really into it and having fun, then a couple minutes later be standing there with their arms crossed and a bitchy resting face.
/r/seduction04/08/13 03:56 AM
6

I'm not slipping my tongue in past her teeth or getting the outside of her mouth super wet. Just basically not disgusting.
/r/seduction03/08/13 10:41 AM
1

schemantics New favorite word.
/r/seduction03/08/13 03:03 AM
10

It's not that you have to keep eye contact continuously throughout the interaction. You should be glancing away from time to time. The important thing is not to break eye contact when you've said something to build sexual tension.
/r/seduction01/08/13 04:13 AM
2

You're talking about insta-dates, not approaches. Approaching is just the moment you start talking. They don't last hours.
/r/seduction31/07/13 04:01 AM
2

You'd be surprised how girls react in this situation. Sure, some girls treat it as a deal breaker, but they can also be a lot cooler about it than you expected. Hiding the fact that you're sleeping with other people will only lead to more drama down the road when she finds out you lied to her about it. She will find out.
/r/seduction30/07/13 12:25 AM
2

Agreed. Whenever someone points out that I'm hitting on a girl, I just give them a blank, "Why, of course, you fool," look, say, "Yes, I am," and then turn back to the girl.
/r/seduction28/07/13 06:00 AM
1

Well, if the point of a hobby is meeting people, then this is important. However, if you just want to have a hobby that gives you something enjoyable to do/talk about, then who cares if it's a solitary activity? Maybe you're really passionate about biology and want to read a lot. That's fine. When people asking you what you've been doing, you can tell them all the shit you've learned. You shouldn't be picking up hobbies just to impress people. I used to be a five/six day a week gym type person. …
/r/seduction26/07/13 04:00 AM
4

Just post it all at once for fuck's sake.
/r/seduction24/07/13 04:07 AM
2

While my situation may be a bit different because I'm living abroad, I feel like it's a great way to meet people. I spend maybe half an hour a week tops browsing OKC. Send out 5-10 messages and just wait. I'll get 3-5 responses and quickly get numbers then turn them into dates ASAP. I've F-closed four girls this year from OKC and I dated one exclusively for a couple months. She was probably the coolest girl I've dated so far.
/r/seduction22/07/13 04:25 AM
1

When I was in a similar situation, I broke up with the girl and began pursuing other women in a strictly casual manner. The root of the problem was that despite her being an extremely cool girl to spend time with, I wasn't very attracted to her physically and the sex was unsatisfying. If I had been having great sex, I wouldn't have felt the need to "get more experience".
/r/seduction22/07/13 04:20 AM
2

You don't need to make fun of other people at the bar to make yourself look better. It shows that your confidence is only skin deep and that you're looking for validation. Sure, point out guys and ask if they're husband material, but point out a variety of guys, particularly good looking ones. As for how things ended, I wouldn't mention them. Just ignore it and invite her out for a night on the town then bounce back to your place to avoid any more unpleasantness.
/r/seduction22/07/13 04:09 AM
6

A girl isn't a bitch because she rejects you. It just means the situation wasn't one which would convince her to accept your invitation to dance. There are always a lot of factors that you will never be aware of in an interaction like that. Just assuming it's because she's a bitch is a very negative view to take of the situation.
/r/seduction16/07/13 03:39 AM
10

If you want to have an awesome night out, the most important thing you have to know is that YOU have make the night awesome. YOU HAVE TO MOVE! Get out of your confort zone! Feel that awkward feeling in your stomach! Try to get slapped in the face! JUST. DO. SOMETHING. This is the single most important piece of advice here. You need to realize you're in the driver's seat. If you predestine that your night is going to be a gauntlet of awkward, painful social interactions, that's exactly what it wi…
/r/seduction13/07/13 04:55 AM
3

When it comes to FRs, there should be some content. Any content. There's nothing here. Nothing that he struggled with or feels accomplished in having done well. None of us give a shit about your screen play, how badly you sweat, or your dislike of seafood. It's irrelevant fluff.
/r/seduction11/07/13 07:50 AM
8

I really dislike this writing style.
/r/seduction11/07/13 04:13 AM
8

It sounds like she's using you for attention. She doesn't really wanna sleep with you, but after recently breaking up with someone, she still wants to feel desired. I would freeze her out. I probably wouldn't talk to her for awhile, either. You can try escalating after letting her "cool off" and get over her break up. If she gives your more LMR, just go back to watching a movie, listening to music, etc... and ignore her.
/r/seduction09/07/13 11:26 AM
2

I would probably just ignore it. Agree and amplify usually works pretty well, but it can be overdone. Sometimes it's just best to let things go.
/r/seduction09/07/13 04:20 AM
2

If the night went well, you won't need a witty message to impress her. Just tell her you had fun and that you want to see her again.
/r/seduction09/07/13 04:10 AM
1

We had been in a fuck buddy relationship previously, but after I started dating someone I didn't see her for months. When I broke up with my ex, I hit her up without knowing she was seeing anyone.
/r/seduction08/07/13 11:38 AM
3

I've had sex with people I had no chemistry with. I regretted it afterwards. Like immediately afterward. It didn't help that she admitted she was cheating on her boyfriend with me and that she still sees my ex around and how drunk my ex gets. God that was a bad day.
/r/seduction08/07/13 11:08 AM
2

Do things to amuse yourself, not impress women. Pickup should be fun. Don't be stressed or worried about how people perceive you. Do goofy shit, say ridiculous stuff, whatever. Your goal should be to have a good time, not get everyone to love you.
/r/seduction08/07/13 03:50 AM
1

New Courier, of course.
/r/seduction07/07/13 11:03 PM
2

Thumbs up for the Vonnegut reference. I just got "You are what you pretend to be," tattooed onto my arm.
/r/seduction07/07/13 04:55 AM
1

They are completely draining to be around. I have neither the energy or desire to spend all my time trying to boost their self-image.
/r/seduction06/07/13 01:24 AM
9

I ignore it if it's just something in passing. If it becomes a recurring theme in the discussion, I'll probably just cut it short and walk away. I don't need to waste my time with people who have low self-esteem or are fishing for compliments.
/r/seduction05/07/13 04:02 AM
2

Having lost a lot of weight, I have a hard time completely disassociating my current self from my past self. At first, the increased attention was completely surprising and I had a hard time adjusting. Now, I roll with it much more naturally. I get complimented on my looks a lot, so it's hard to keep it from going to my head, which it does sometimes. Overall though, I usually ignore my looks unless they bring it up. I game them how I know how to game.
/r/seduction05/07/13 04:01 AM
1

I probably could have. I knew at the moment that I was blowing an easy in. Luckily enough, I was given a second chance and I made sure I didn't miss it.
/r/seduction04/07/13 07:42 AM
2

I knew I should have done that. I was kind of kicking myself for not doing it. Just seemed too lose steam. She had been whispering in my ear, and we got our faces crazy close to each other. It would've been easy. Anyway, that's why I knew when I had the second opportunity I had to take it. I had no reason to think this girl would get on a motorcycle with some guy she hadn't said more than ten words to, but I went for it.
/r/seduction03/07/13 11:17 PM
-2

OK, bro. I understand how it may sound, but when a girl is straddling you, pinning your arms down, and hovering over you saying "I should go," she doesn't feel like she's in any danger. It's token resistance. Once she made up her mind sex wasn't happening, she got up off of me and got ready to leave, at which point I walked her out. I'm sorry to disappoint you on your high horse, but there wasn't any rape.
/r/seduction02/07/13 12:17 AM
2

I would treat Asian girls the same as any other girl. I have dated Asian girls who wanted to "play it slow", but I've also gotten SNLs with Asian girls, and I've dated Western girls who refused to sleep with me on the first date out of principle alone.
/r/seduction30/06/13 11:08 PM
3

As someone living in an Asian country, I understand the surface judgement that Asian culture is more "conservative" because it often presents itself as such. Really, it's more about maintaining appearances. Most Asian girls are just as down to get dirty, but they just have a higher ASD that most Western girls. You game them just like any other girl. Be confident, initiate kino and escalate quickly, then isolate. Isolation is key. Most Asian girls won't do much beyond hold a guy's hand in public,…
/r/seduction30/06/13 04:31 AM
1

The timing of your text matters a whole lot less than the content of your text. It can be five seconds after you walk away or a week later. The easiest way to open the conversation is to make a reference to some topic or joke from the Day 1 and then propose a date, hopefully to do something you talked about on the Day 1, as well.
/r/seduction30/06/13 04:26 AM
1

I've had lots of Korean girls call me 오빠 and still fuck me. Actually, I love when they call me 오빠. Anyway, as someone who just fucked a Korean girl the second time I met her yesterday, the biggest thing is just to be very sexual from the beginning. The first day I met her, within five minutes, I was holding her hand. She was completely shocked, but she never pulled away. Ten minutes later, my hand is around her waist or on her legs as we're sitting down at the bridge. Then, I isolated her and es…
/r/seduction30/06/13 01:40 AM
1

I feel like when you actually start getting success with women using outer game, inner game fixes itself. To a small degree, yes, but it can also be very detrimental. Think of outer game without underlying inner game as a house built on sand. You can get some success, and it will instill some confidence in you, but without inner game, the inevitable failures will set you back a lot further.
/r/seduction29/06/13 07:55 AM
5

I highly support this. I've already gotten messages from several sedditors because I've mentioned Seoul in my FRs. If people don't want to reveal their location, they don't have to.
/r/seduction27/06/13 12:10 PM
2

Just because a girl is shy doesn't mean she wouldn't take advantage of you. If you need to get up and walk across the table, do it. I don't care how hot a girl is. I can ignore her. You can, too. It's all about self-respect. While I was chatting a cute girl up at a bar, her hot, bitchy friend came over and asked me to buy them both drinks. I declined by saying they should buy me a drink. She waited thirty seconds, then rudely interrupted me to interject "No, seriously, are going going to buy us …
/r/seduction27/06/13 11:40 AM
1

I think it's a natural reaction. No one likes being rejected, even if it's by someone that they don't feel a strong attraction for. Sometimes, that can be even worse. You feel a bit entitled to her attraction because you're more attractive, or something like that. If you can't attract her, then you must be doing something wrong. Don't dwell on it. Just move on and find the next girl.
/r/seduction27/06/13 07:55 AM
2

I actually wanted to talk to the brunette more because I could tell she wasn't the type to just blatantly toy with me. There is literally no basis for this statement. As far as your FR states, you never even exchanged words with the girl. How could you possibly know what kind of girl she is? You're just projecting an ideal image of her onto her. This is going to psyche you out with so many women. You're going to get it stuck in your mind this girl is X kind of woman and you'll assume your intera…
/r/seduction27/06/13 01:06 AM
1

How meta.
/r/seduction27/06/13 12:49 AM
12

Two weeks ago, I went out with a girl. It was a first date and things went well. I ended up going back to her place for sex. I assumed a second date was in order. The next night, I saw her out, obviously on a date with another guy. We were in the same bar, so I said hello and she went off to dance, while I talked with her friend a bit. I ended up leaving the bar, and she showed up again at the second bar I went to coincidentally. I chose not to focus on her by turning my back to her and enjoying…
/r/seduction27/06/13 12:46 AM
7

Why not both?
/r/seduction27/06/13 12:40 AM
2

Then you're busy with work. Can't be texting bitches on the clock.
/r/seduction26/06/13 02:59 PM
7

Don't bother. You'll see them soon enough. If they text you, sure, respond, but don't carry it out too long. You should be out having fun during the summer, not sitting at home texting women you won't see for another couple months.
/r/seduction26/06/13 04:06 AM
1

We don't really need to hear all of your background information. It's the same for pretty much everyone. Loser in high school, fat, no experience with the ladies, yadda yadda yadda. Get to the point. The actual FR was decent. Good attention to detail. I think it's important to note your strengths and weaknesses -- particularly as they come up throughout the FR, not just in the end. A little bold here and there to emphasize main points will help keep readers' eyes from getting bored by a wall of …
/r/seduction25/06/13 03:59 AM
3

Knew she was Korean before I came into comment. I'm in Seoul and I've had a lot of those "good girl gone wild" moments. The craziest was probably the Korean girl who gave me a handjob on an elementary school playground. Good times.
/r/seduction24/06/13 01:10 PM
1

Go to the repelling place. Go to the ticket booth. Buy one ticket. Move aside. Wait for her to buy.
/r/seduction20/06/13 02:23 PM
1

The text should be a bit more to the point. Reminding her who you are is fine, but that "I want to get drinks" is pretty week. You're not even technically asking her out, you're just expressing some wish. Don't ask her out, tell her you're going out and she should come.
/r/seduction19/06/13 04:29 AM
9

(Epiphany, should have said does it get rid of hooker breath) No. No you shouldn't have. I'm glad you didn't say this. You're literally implying this girl is a hooker. Why would she want to talk to you after that?
/r/seduction19/06/13 04:22 AM
2

Disagree with a lot of this. If he really had fucked up super badly, she wouldn't have initiated the make out in the car when he drove her home. She's obviously still attracted to him, despite the fact that he clammed up after he got high. Secondly, there's no reason to remind her of how awkward you were. You don't need to apologize or make excuses for what happened. What's over is over. You shouldn't dwell on it, much less let on to her you've been dwelling on it. You were high and quiet. No bi…
/r/seduction19/06/13 04:18 AM
1

In this case, it was quite easy. She mentioned that her neighbor would have crazy loud sex, so I would just bring it up every time she texted me. Her: Hey, what's up? Me: Not much, have any loud sex lately? In a less perfect world, you won't have it handed to you as easily, but they're bound to say something you can misconstrue as being said with sexual undertones, and that's an easy way to break into the topic of sex. You can do it on your own, but you have to be careful not to come off as too …
/r/seduction18/06/13 09:41 AM
1

I'm not against texting. I'm against certain ways of texting. Pointless chit chat to pass the time sends the message that you don't have anything important to do and that this girl is a priority for you. Early on, after only one or two interactions with a girl, this is an inappropriate message to send. It leads quickly down the road to neediness. In general, I tend to keep conversations short and to the point, but I have experimented with other forms. Awhile back, I went on a date that was medio…
/r/seduction18/06/13 04:17 AM
2

If a girl invited you somewhere, would you expect her to pay? I doubt it. Do you pay for your buddy's dinner if you invite him out? I sure as hell don't. You're creating a double-standard. I'm not required to pay for anyone. I'm certainly not paying for someone to hang out with me, regardless of their sex.
/r/seduction18/06/13 04:11 AM
1

I tend to say something along the lines of "I'll get X. You get Y." So, I'll buy dinner and then she buys a couple drinks. I've literally never had a girl second guess it. It's not like girls will flip out over it. I usually say it once, and then from then on out, it's an assumed behavior. Either I'll pay the bill and she hands me some cash for hers, or she pays for the next thing.
/r/seduction18/06/13 04:08 AM
7

You don't know how to play baseball, son. Anyway, you've got your foot in the door. It's just on you not to fuck it up. Don't waste time with pointless chit chat. Tell her you're going out to X bar/club and she should come along.
/r/seduction18/06/13 04:03 AM
2

This was incredibly pointless.
/r/seduction18/06/13 03:52 AM
2

Friday night I went to a concert with a girl. We originally chatted briefly on OKCupid, but I found her humor too "OMG RANDOM LOLE" and gave her up. Then ended up running into her at an open mic, and she was much more down-to-earth in person, so we set up a date. While we were out and about, I ran into the same fuck buddy no less than three separate times. I would just wave and smile, then keep walking with the date. I ended up F-closing the date Friday night. Sunday, I met my FB. There were no …
/r/seduction17/06/13 02:26 PM
14

I disagree most specifically with his second statement -- that if a girl never texts you first, then she must not be interested. It's just patently untrue from all my personal experiences. I've F-closed plenty of girls several times each that wouldn't ever text me first. I always initiated each conversation. Perhaps it's because my text game is very "bare bones", and they may not feel like I'm not interested in having long, drawn-out conversations. Because I'm not. I'm not your girlfriend you ca…
/r/seduction17/06/13 02:19 PM
1

Girls are fantastic flirts. You're just bad at reading them and asserting yourself.
/r/seduction17/06/13 02:16 PM
2

I couldn't disagree more.
/r/seduction17/06/13 11:08 AM
4

I wouldn't really worry about it, honesty. Sure, it feels great if you've got girls texting you first constantly, but that is literally almost never the case. I've dated girls for months and never had them text me first. I've had girls out right tell me "I don't text first". They're afraid of appearing desperate or easy, or they don't want the guy to know they're that interested. The problem seems to be that you're searching for the validation of knowing a girl is into you, because she's texting…
/r/seduction17/06/13 11:08 AM
1

I've asked girls about what they thought of dates, but a couple weeks/a month later. As far as how to get her home, most of the time a "Let's get out of here," will suffice. Everyone in the world knows what you're saying. If she declines or gives an excuse, ignore it and keep going. Bring it up again a little bit later after you've done some more escalating.
/r/seduction15/06/13 05:51 AM
1

Sucks to be you. I'm in Seoul and I'm all about Korean girls. Honestly though, do foreign girls ever even ask your age? I can't remember the last time someone asked me how old I was. The curfew is a bit more complicated, but I know lots of military that go out all night. My basic understanding, is that they don't necessarily have to be on base, they just can't be out, as in they can sleep in a motel and come back in the morning. If that's the case, just do that... Go to a place like Hongdae wher…
/r/seduction13/06/13 04:30 AM
2

Just kiss the goddamn girl. No one gives a shit about your sore throat.
/r/seduction12/06/13 11:45 AM
1

Sounds like she was a lady of the night.
/r/seduction12/06/13 11:36 AM
-2

Either my best first date ever or the most number of separate closes in a night.
/r/seduction11/06/13 01:56 PM
12

Granny shit was way too played out, son. Negs are only funny when they're used sparingly. Using them too often just makes you an asshole.
/r/seduction11/06/13 01:48 PM
2

You don't really need to bother texting her. If she texts you, by all means, reply, but you're a busy man. You've got better things to do for the next ten days than wait around for a girl to come back. Your inner AFC is going to be screaming at you to text her because you think she'll lose attraction for you and that you won't be able to get another HB9 again. Ignore that. It just makes you look lame, desperate, and clingy. When she's back in town, shoot her a message telling her to meet you at …
/r/seduction11/06/13 03:49 AM
14

I don't really agree with the whole "approaching someone automatically gives them value above yourself" mindset. Sure, I may be interested in a girl, but I'm not lowering myself by approaching her. Guys are supposed to be the ones pursuing women. It's those canned bullshit opinion openers, the ones that we invent to "give us a reason" to talk to a girl, that lower your value. What I think he's actually asking is that he feels he would be "weird" for approaching a girl to hit on her. That it coul…
/r/seduction11/06/13 03:36 AM
1

It may be beneficial to take baby steps. You're already thinking about the whole conversation you want to have. Take it a couple steps back. Just say hi, like you don't expect the conversation to continue beyond that. You can practice by just saying hello in passing to people on the street. As you get more comfortable with that, you can practice trying to start conversations with people spontaneously.
/r/seduction11/06/13 03:32 AM
2

Buying a girl a drink just puts her above you on a pedestal. You're lowering yourself in her eyes, trying to buy her attention, time, etc... In the past year, I've never bought a girl a drink that I hadn't already slept with. If they ask, I say no. That's it. No clever lines. If they ask why, I tell them that I don't need to buy women drinks. That's it. Now, if it's a girl that you're on a date with, not just meeting for the first time in the bar, it is acceptable to trade buying drinks. You can…
/r/seduction10/06/13 04:11 AM
6

I lost it rather late as well. I had a lot of similar anxieties about how I'd do, whether or not I should tell the girl, etc... In the end, when I lost it, the girl never knew. I don't think she would've believed me either. Sex is incredibly natural. All you need is enthusiasm for your partner's enjoyment, and you will do just fine. If something is a little awkward, they'll tell you and it'll improve.
/r/seduction10/06/13 04:03 AM
3

I'm seeing a girl that's the same way. She doesn't wear her heart on her sleeve at all. She's always hard to read, but it's taught me to be a lot more confident in myself. It's easy to be confident when a girl is seriously digging you, but it takes strong inner game to maintain the same level of confidence if she's playing it cool. The main thing is to assume attraction. Until she tells you to bug off, she must enjoy what you're doing on some level, so keep it going.
/r/seduction10/06/13 04:00 AM
2

I've used it to get laid pretty easily. Contrary to popular belief, not all girls on that website are just looking for a serious relationship. A lot of just want to meet people to go out and have fun with. Read a girl's profile, find something interesting and send her a short, unique message. I only get on OKC like once a week, and I'll message maybe 8-10 girls, then wait for replies. Maybe get 4-5 replies, and then quickly get numbers. I will usually meet most of the girls numbers I get, and I'…
/r/seduction10/06/13 03:58 AM
3

I like to think I'm eloquent.
/r/seduction07/06/13 03:20 AM
1

There's really no reason to bring up the past incidences. Why remind her that you've blown her off before? Just invite her out to something fun.
/r/seduction07/06/13 03:19 AM
2

The most important thing you can do is kino girls. Always be touching them. Touch them from the second you meet them. It feels strange at first, but you'll quickly realize that if you do it confidently and naturally, no one will have a second thought about it.
/r/seduction07/06/13 03:17 AM
1

Okay.
/r/seduction06/06/13 03:55 PM
2

That article was written by a man and you've missed the point entirely. Fantastic job.
/r/seduction06/06/13 03:16 PM
1

Well, when you hug, you should be cheek-to-cheek to begin with. It's just kind of a reflex on my part at that point. I just give a little kiss on the cheek. I've never really paid attention to their reaction. There's never really been much of one. Certainly not anything where she draws attention to the fact that I kissed her on the cheek so immediately. Girls aren't going to run around espousing "HE JUST KISSED MY CHEEK OH MY GOD!"
/r/seduction06/06/13 04:48 AM
10

The defining characteristics of a Nice Guy are that he's doing things which he wouldn't ordinarily do, just because he thinks it will raise his chances of having sex or starting a relationship with a girl. He drops everything he's doing at the simple crook of her finger. He's unable to be forward with his emotions or intentions, and after months of harboring them, when they're not returned, he feels that he's been cheated, mislead, or betrayed. He thinks he must be such a great guy that the faul…
/r/seduction06/06/13 03:24 AM
2

It's not like I only messaged her. I message a lot of women. I'm not just waiting around for one girl to message me back. OKC lets you cast a wide net. I will browse around for maybe half an hour every couple days. If I see any super attractive girls or girls with interesting profiles, I'll send them a message. I get a pretty good response rate. Maybe 40% of the girls I message respond.
/r/seduction06/06/13 03:13 AM
1

At 5 AM on a Wednesday night. I live in Korea and Thursday is Independence Day, so there's no work.
/r/seduction06/06/13 03:11 AM
1

I can see how a kiss on the cheek could be taken as a friendly motion if you've known the girl a long time, however, when you're first meeting, I think it's a great way to start off. It's certainly a lot better than a polite handshake or -- gasp -- no kino. Of all the girls that I've met from online that I kissed on the cheek at the first meeting, I have ended up F-closing all of them. Either way, a hug is a good way to break the kino barrier immediately. When you're initially meeting, I play it…
/r/seduction06/06/13 03:05 AM
1

I ask for hers. No reason. Refer to this FR I just posted.
/r/seduction05/06/13 08:06 PM
2

I'm drunk, and I don't really feel like reading all of that -- so that's my biggest concern. It doesn't really matter how you come off if your responses are all several paragraphs long. When I message girls, it's one to three sentences max. It's short, to the point, and asks a question that gets the girl talking about themselves. Exchange one or two messages, then suggest texting, not an outright in-person meeting. It's all about baby steps with it comes to compliance. Going from an online conve…
/r/seduction05/06/13 07:40 PM
1

I would not reference the incident at all. There's no reason to remind a girl that she's already rejected or turned you down once before. Honestly, with a girl that you've only interacted with online, I'd just move on. If you had met in person and had chemistry, it'd be worth waiting a couple days and then trying again on a new foot, but with some girl you've only talked to online, it seems a bit desperate.
/r/seduction05/06/13 07:37 PM
1

However long the length of their reply is, you shoot to reply with something 1/3 the length. So, if their reply is six sentences, yours should be two. The basic idea is you're cutting straight to the point. You avoid a lot of pointless chit chat.
/r/seduction05/06/13 07:35 PM
1

If you kino and escalate correctly, there will an obvious build up to kissing, where it just seems natural instead of a big, weird, awkward moment. Give her a hug and a kiss on the cheek when you see her. It seems lame, but when I go for it, it always sets a good vibe for the rest of the date. Touch her arms, her back, her legs (if you're sitting close). Once you're holding hands with a girl, that's pretty much a green light for a kiss.
/r/seduction05/06/13 04:42 AM
10

Well, unless the friend grabs your target by the hand and pulls her away, when it becomes obvious your paths are splitting is the best time to get the number. While she's standing there dealing with the friend and explaining to you that she has to go be with her friends, just pull out your phone and hand it to her. She'll know what to do. I don't think I've actually asked a girl for her phone number in the last year.
/r/seduction05/06/13 04:36 AM
2

Assume if he's not anyone's boyfriend then every girl is fair game. It will be quickly obvious if he's into a specific girl in the group. If he's an AFC, it really doesn't matter. You should be able to pull the girl anyway, and he probably won't be able to do much about it. Still be friendly with the guy. You don't have to lower him to make yourself look better. An easy way to avoid competition is just to not game the girl he's after, anyway. But, if she's your target, don't let him discourage y…
/r/seduction05/06/13 04:17 AM
5

Still could've gotten a number out of it.
/r/seduction05/06/13 04:10 AM
2

It was mostly because of this comment: Women don't like being "just another girl" that some guy practiced on. Each one wants to feel special, and a big chunk love the idea of fate. Where fate is an external entity which facilitated the fortunate meeting of a man and a woman.
/r/seduction04/06/13 04:07 AM
13

You have no reason to be ashamed of going to bars to pick up women. I would say that being sober and in control of yourself and not only having a "moment of drunkness" would be a positive factor in any interaction with a girl in a bar. And so what if you're there to pick up chicks? You're a goddamn man. You don't have to be apologetic for exercising your biological desires. It's completely natural. Don't ever apologize for sexual interest in women. Secondly, you seem to have an overly romantic v…
/r/seduction04/06/13 03:01 AM
4

You should never be making self-improvements for the sake of another person. You'll just end up trying to live up to someone else's standards. You should always be improving yourself to satisfy yourself, not someone else.
/r/seduction04/06/13 02:49 AM
15

I think this is a terrible idea. I have never liked "opinion openers". They always seem so artificial. Why bother coming up with an excuse to talk to a girl? Just go fucking talk to her. This one is particularly long and drawn out. You're spending a lot of time planning what you're going to say. The problem is: no conversation you ever create in your head will ever actually happen in real life. You're preparing to follow a script no one else has. It's going to end badly.
/r/seduction04/06/13 02:46 AM
1

There are very few "ideal" opportunities in the world. We all do the best with what we've been dealt. If it's that bad, think about moving. Not for this particular girl, but to make your life better.
/r/seduction03/06/13 10:50 AM
0

Honestly, it's probably not worth it. Keep in touch in case you are ever naturally in her area, or she is in your, but I wouldn't waste a lot of time trying to figure out the logistics here. There are plenty of girls that don't live two hours away from you living right in your town.
/r/seduction03/06/13 02:47 AM
2

I'm living in Seoul. I go out and practice PUA. Most of the stuff for night game is still applicable in Korea, but day game is really hard because of the whole "stranger danger" thing in Korea. No one really wants to talk to strangers during the day.
/r/seduction31/05/13 04:40 AM
3

A lot of nos just mean "not right now". Take the escalation back a small step, but keep it high overall. Then push forward again. A lot of LMR uses words like "can't," "shouldn't," etc... There's lots of ways to deal with this, but I just ignore these really weak bullshit requests. Unless she moves my hand away or gives me a firm no, I just keep going. Eventually, those weak nos turn into yeses.
/r/seduction30/05/13 04:40 AM
2

There must be a site you can post it to that we can download the Excel sheet from.
/r/seduction29/05/13 12:22 PM
3

You turn them off because you treat them like shit. You don't need to take other people down a peg just to show them how "alpha" you are. The first girl was already forgiving you, and you just threw her to the dogs. With number two, I probably wouldn't have even responded to that text. She's obviously upset and looking for a reaction. Just wait a day and text her something completely unrelated.
/r/seduction29/05/13 12:03 PM
3

So... Are you going to post a link to a tracker you've made, or do you expect people to make their own?
/r/seduction29/05/13 11:42 AM
2

Generally, if I ask a girl out and she gives me some legitimate excuse as to why she can't come, I'll just say "okay" and drop it. If she wants, she can suggest another time, or I'll wait a day or two, ten send her another message proposing another time to meet.
/r/seduction29/05/13 03:09 AM
3

Just ignore it. It's not like she cancelled last minute or stood you up. Those are reasons not to talk to a girl again. She just had something else to do that night. Would you drop anything you were doing just because this girl invited you over to bang? I hope not. I hope you've got better shit to do with your life than just wait around on a girl. You should treat her and her social and work life the same. Sometimes there just are schedule conflicts. As for what to do next, do whatever is normal…
/r/seduction25/05/13 04:52 AM
5

A little shyness or awkwardness is no big deal, but when people can't even fucking talk to you after you've been kissing, it's fucking torture.
/r/seduction25/05/13 01:48 AM
1

Long game isn't even the issue. He's already fucked this girl. Several times. She's into him. He just has completely unrealistic expectations.
/r/seduction25/05/13 01:47 AM
4

I couldn't even finish reading this. She's literally going out of her way to feed you. Do you need a fucking telegram to get her number and ask her out?
/r/seduction25/05/13 01:00 AM
3

“I… uh… I don’t… It’s not you… uh… I’m not really looking… for anything… serious?... right now.” Cringe. I can actually hear it in my head. I mean, you did well getting to that point, but like you said, in a new situation, you went back to being a sackless AFC. The good news is that when you get into this situation again, you'll have some experience and knowledge on your side to improve upon your behavior. You may not get it perfect, but you'll do better. Did you talk to me that first day just f…
/r/seduction25/05/13 12:53 AM
0

I have no idea why you're being downvoted. So many people here have no fucking inner game and they show it by being butthurt about little shit like this.
/r/seduction25/05/13 12:45 AM
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Stop being a whiny bitch and grow a pair. Girls usually don't initiate shit. If you wait around for a girl to ask you out to do something, you're gonna be sitting their holding your dick in your hand for awhile. Just because she's busy one night doesn't mean she's rejecting you. She's just got shit to do. It's incredibly selfish of you to expect her to always come running over at your beck and call. It really just demonstrates that you're incredibly self-conscious and you have no self-esteem.
/r/seduction25/05/13 12:42 AM
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When a girl is this shy, you have to take the driver's seat in the interaction. Just because she's not "super into" it and getting all hot and bothered and talking about how much she wants your cock doesn't mean she doesn't want it. Keep escalating and wait for her to tell you when to stop. Silence is not a rejection.
/r/seduction25/05/13 12:38 AM
0

I've given up. I can't rescue them. I don't even want to anymore. It's too exhausting being around cripplingly shy people.
/r/seduction25/05/13 12:37 AM
0

This isn't /r/okcupid, so I didn't feel the need. I answered the questions he asked. Read her profile. Find a common point of interest or something intriguing. Make a comment/question about it. It's not fucking rocket science.
/r/seduction24/05/13 11:30 PM
1

I try to have a number within 5-6 messages back and forth. In the same number, suggest getting together to do something. I've never had a girl turn down my request for her number. A lot of it has to do with how you open the conversation and maintain the interaction.
/r/seduction24/05/13 04:20 AM
1

In that case, just text your roommate when you are heading over or a girl is already over at your place. Have some kind of back up signal, just in case, but don't make it something super obvious like a tie on the doorknob. Discuss it with him. Chances are it won't be a big deal. I mean, if you pull a girl home at 3 AM on a Tuesday night, it'd be a dick move to kick him out of bed, so keep that in mind. Just be respectful and he'll return the favor.
/r/seduction23/05/13 03:43 AM
1

Cool, I thought. I'll approach them later. An hour or so passes wat Seriously. I can understand if you're in the middle of something, but in my eyes, waiting just leads to sets you never open. You can't wait around for the perfect situation to approach. You've already done well. You've gotten her attention and a good reaction. Just go over and dance with her. Don't even talk to her. Just keep singing along and having fun. Also, thumb-to-ear trick? If you reference something really specific, it's…
/r/seduction23/05/13 03:41 AM
6

I couldn't even read the rest. Just awful. If you're interested in a girl and she asks to be just friends, there's only one response: Nope, sorry. Either she bites anyway, or that's the end and you've saved a lot of time and energy. On to the next girl.
/r/seduction23/05/13 03:32 AM
3

I'd like to meet up no more than twice per week, but when they ask nearly every day, I feel like a jerk always saying I'm busy. Tell her this. Tell her you enjoy seeing her and spending time with her, but you don't want to get serious. Really, a lot of guys over think this. Be fucking honest and upfront with girls.
/r/seduction23/05/13 03:26 AM
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First of all, don't ever bother asking a girl why she's doing something. She may not know, and even if she does, she probably won't tell you the truth. Secondly, the girl is probably pulling back a bit because she feels a little slutty for only hooking up with you. I've had similar situations. Girls may have never had a fuck buddy before, so the idea of only seeing someone for sex is a little new and uncomfortable for them. In my case, I maintained that I did not want a relationship, or even to …
/r/seduction23/05/13 03:22 AM
2

I used to be in the same boat. You're doing well so far. You're making a change in your life, and it'll change you in ways you never expected. I was only a bit smaller than you, and my self-esteem was in the basement. I finally lost like 60 pounds, and that alone got me a lot more attention from girls than I'd ever imagined. Then, once I started working on inner and outer game earnestly, shit clicked and I couldn't be happier with the results so far. Keep doing what you're doing. In six months t…
/r/seduction23/05/13 03:16 AM
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The biggest thing is that you need to be into the music and dancing. If you love country music, go to a country bar and do some line dancing. If you like hip-hop, go to a club and do the two-step. The biggest problem a lot of people have is being uncomfortable. They don't care about the music, they're not into it, and it fucks up their energy. Go out there and dance your ass off, sing along to the music, etc... Fucking rage. You don't need to say anything to girls. I'm currently hooking up with …
/r/seduction23/05/13 03:12 AM
5

Do you mean literally sharing a bedroom, like in a dorm? If that's the case, then you would have to work out a system to let him know that you're bringing a girl home, or that you're currently at home in the bedroom with a girl. If you have separate bedrooms, who gives a shit? As long as you discuss that a closed bedroom door means "Do Not Disturb" he won't be barging in on you. Everyone has a roommate in college. A girl isn't going to see your roommate and be like "OH MY GOD. SOMEONE KNOWS I'M …
/r/seduction23/05/13 03:09 AM
1

Check out /r/okcupid I have a lot of success by just finding something interesting on their profile and making a comment or asking a question about it. Does she like your favorite author? Ask which book of his is her favorite? Does she have cool pictures from her travels? Ask which one was the most exciting. I get a good response rate doing this, and it's not hard. If you can't find anything interesting on her profile, then don't waste your time. Sure, she might be hot, but you'll be bored as he…
/r/seduction22/05/13 04:34 AM
1

Cringe. This is one of the reasons I stay away from Facebook chatting with girls I'm pursuing. It just leads down the road to chatting too much. That leads to these big "confessions". Honestly, once the "cat is out of the bag," you should've just left it at that. You could've gone about it smoother, "Let's get some drinks when school starts. I know a cool bar," but you can't change that now. It was a huge mistake to do all that back-pedaling about how weird it was, how you were just doing it bec…
/r/seduction22/05/13 04:28 AM
1

I've slept with a couple girls that I didn't really want to sleep with. I just did it because I could. There's nothing really wrong with that. I never gave them the impression I wanted a relationship with any of them. I was never dishonest with them. I just made it clear that all it was for me was sex. Plenty of girls are down for that. So, bang a couple boring girls, and while you're doing that, continue to go out and find the interesting ones that you would want to date. Just don't ever start …
/r/seduction22/05/13 04:18 AM
1

Body language can do all the talking for you. I've hooked up with girls with a big language barrier just because I was having fun and sexual. As far as how to approach girls, I live in an Asian culture, so it's a bit harder -- day game cold approaches are basically a no-no -- but you can always try language groups. People everywhere are learning English, or willing to teach you the local language. Going to a language as a guy is a little transparent, but at least you know the girls there will sp…
/r/seduction20/05/13 02:36 PM
1

Learning the language will be immensely beneficial. And who better to teach you than a cute girl? I've been running this game on girls abroad for a couple years. It's a great way to initiate kino and escalate quickly. Suggest that the girl teach you some of her language, and ask her to teach you body parts. Start by touching different places on her body and asking what they're called. After a couple safe ones, grab her hand and get really in depth. Ask her about each finger, knuckles, fingernail…
/r/seduction20/05/13 02:32 PM
2

Not really. Just "Teach me some German! grab her arm What's this called?"
/r/seduction20/05/13 12:49 AM
1

That's another big thing. Realizing girls are sexual beings. They're not the "keepers of the sex". They want it just as much as we do. Girls get horny and go out and want to hook up. They just have a couple more hurdles to get over than men do.
/r/seduction19/05/13 12:21 PM
1

Do it, dude. You'll be extremely surprised. I've F-closed with girls that I was moments away from just walking away from. Most recently, a girl I've hooked up with a couple times the past few weeks, the first time we met, I thought she was just dancing with me out of boredom but wasn't into me, so I was like "I'm gonna leave... Wanna come with?" totally expecting her to say no, but she came.
/r/seduction19/05/13 12:11 PM
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I totally agree with your second point. I have seen a lot of people who advise against showing such direct sexual interest in a girl. They argue that it comes off as desperate or that you're putting the girl on a pedestal, but it's all about the frame. If you've come in strong from the get-go, then you being straight up with the girl is the best way. I've done this a lot lately. I've struck out with it, mainly because I went with it too early, but when you've got a girl interested, going straigh…
/r/seduction19/05/13 12:04 PM
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Use these girls that you're not really interested as a pivot to her hotter friends. Aside from that, you mention that a lot of girls flake. That's just up to you to create a stronger connection in the first interaction. Without more specifics, I can't really give you advice about what you need to change, but the basic train of thought is that you were charming enough to get the number, but not charming enough to convince these girls to commit to a day two.
/r/seduction19/05/13 11:58 AM
1

It's completely in your head. There's nothing wrong with your junk. You just have a lot of performance anxiety because it has taken a long time to happen. You think other people are all sex gods that lost their virginity so long ago that your inexperience will be a laughing matter. It's bullshit. Experience does improve your ability, but enthusiasm is the most important factor. You wanting to please the other person is way more important than how many partners you've had. Plenty of guys/girls ha…
/r/seduction19/05/13 05:02 AM
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My favorite game to run on foreign girls is just to ask them to teach you some of their language. Obviously, you should have them teach you body parts. Touch a part of their body and ask what it's called. Start with neutral things like their arm, back, etc... After a couple tame ones, grab their hand and ask for the names for each finger, their fingernails, the knuckles, the palm, etc... Hand holding is an incredibly intimate thing. After their hands, start touching their neck, ears, face and as…
/r/seduction19/05/13 04:57 AM
2

Don't ask questions, particularly to get her to hang out. Instead of "What are you doing tonight?" tell her what you're doing and invite her along: "I'm going to X at 8 PM. You should come." It's not needy because you're doing it regardless of whether she shows up or not. It's very low pressure for her. You're a busy guy that has interesting things to do. You're leading the interaction, not waiting for her input to ask her out.
/r/seduction19/05/13 04:53 AM
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One of the biggest epiphanies for me was just to continue escalating no matter what -- with the exception of a firm no. Lots of times when you kino a girl, they just ignore it. They don't show that they're into the kino, and they don't reciprocate much kino, either. That doesn't mean they're not interested. A younger me would always get discouraged by their seeming lack of interest, and I'd give up. Just keep pushing ahead. If your hand is on her hip and she doesn't push it away, she wants it th…
/r/seduction19/05/13 04:49 AM
5

"I don't want anything serious or exclusive." Seriously. This isn't rocket surgery. You're still operating from a mindset of scarcity. If you were confident in your abundance mentality, you wouldn't be worried about a "missed opportunity". Sure, some girls will react negatively to your desire to keep things casual. On the other hand, there's plenty of girls that will be in the same boat you are. Find those girls. Being dishonest with women about what you're really interested in just because you …
/r/seduction16/05/13 03:57 AM
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There is no "right way" to text a girl. There's a lot of different opinions on how to interact with a girl through text on seddit, and all of it has worked for people at some point. It's up to you to find a strategy that works for you. For me, I know if I text too much, I tend to over-do it and then just turn into a chatty Cathy, so I forcibly refuse to text a girl. Set up a date, let her cool for a few days, then text the day of to confirm. I've also texted girls without meeting for weeks, then…
/r/seduction16/05/13 03:50 AM
2

Be really good in bed. Seriously. Learn how to go down on a girl. I've had tons of girls tell me I was the first guy who went down on her, or was good at going down on her, and the reaction is amazing. They have no idea what just hit them. My ex told me she'd probably continue to date me even if she didn't really like me anymore just for the sex.
/r/seduction16/05/13 03:44 AM
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I was very skeptical because of the title, but this seems pretty legit. I'm gonna try it out tonight.
/r/seduction16/05/13 03:42 AM
3

I can't tell you how many times a girl has told me "We're not having sex" and then been on my cock half an hour later. Girls will try to save face by putting up a token resistance. Until she gives firm nos or asks you to make the relationship to the next level, you should just continue being flirty and physical and let things run their natural course.
/r/seduction15/05/13 03:28 PM
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What a girl says about what she wants and what she does can be vastly different. If you want to bang this girl, continue to be open to her about not wanting any relationship, but it doesn't mean stop seeing her either. Carry yourself in a manner that doesn't scream "I'm your boyfriend." Don't walk down the street holding her hand, don't give her random small gifts, etc... Just flirt a lot and escalate when you see each other. At that point, it's up to her to make the decision. She can take it or…
/r/seduction15/05/13 10:56 AM
1

Exactly. You don't want to fall into the trap of making out with a girl hardcore for 30 minutes, then having her leave with her friends. You want to turn this girl on, but don't get her off. Kiss for ten seconds tops. Continue to tease her sexually. Lean in for kisses, then pull back. Lightly trail fingertips over her bare skin. Slide your hand up the back of her neck and lightly pull on her hair or massage her head. After I stopped getting my freak on on the dance floor and started playing a lo…
/r/seduction14/05/13 02:10 AM
4

It's a completely different kind of energy and interaction in each environment. It's kind of like asking why don't people line dance at an Ultra event. Night game and day game have two very different contexts, and to succeed, you need to work within the context.
/r/seduction14/05/13 01:59 AM
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He made out with her. That doesn't mean a whole lot.
/r/seduction14/05/13 12:39 AM
1

Man, you're really over thinking this. It takes a lot of concerted effort, but you have to force yourself not to think like that.
/r/seduction13/05/13 02:31 PM
2

Who cares what this girl thinks anyway?
/r/seduction13/05/13 02:27 PM
1

Just don't respond immediately every time. She should know that you're busy and you can't be expected to drop everything you're doing to respond to her pointless chit chat texts.
/r/seduction13/05/13 10:56 AM
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if I get bailed on without notice 3 times, you've got some fucking explaining to do. Once is too many times, and it doesn't require an explanation. It's plain that they don't have any consideration for you.
/r/seduction13/05/13 10:51 AM
9

Don't. Seriously. It's not a fucking book club. No one gives a shit what you have to say in a club. The most important thing is your body language and state of mind. You can fucking bark at women in a club and if you're having fun people will dig it. Save the conversation for Day 2.
/r/seduction12/05/13 11:31 AM
2

You're a golden, Greek god, and fuck anyone who says differently.
/r/seduction12/05/13 11:27 AM
0

I think for myself, when I started gaming, I would find that on "less attractive" girls, the game was much easier and natural. I would get the girl's interest and escalate and take her home. A win is a win, right? Over time, as my confidence in myself increased, I became a bit pickier about the women I take to bed. I actually just "back slid" and fucked a girl I didn't find that attractive. I'm honestly pretty disappointed in myself. Anyway, it sounds a bit narcissistic, but I like knowing that …
/r/seduction12/05/13 11:25 AM
2

Definitely gonna be using the hand squeeze technique on Tuesday when I go out.
/r/seduction12/05/13 11:21 AM
2

I'm sure he explains the whole left/right -- right/wrong thing before hand.
/r/seduction12/05/13 11:21 AM
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Do it early and often. It may feel unnatural at first, but after some practice, it'll begin to feel weird not to kino girls. Don't be afraid to push it and escalate to the next level. If a girl doesn't want you to do it, she'll let you know. Don't take the lack of reaction or reciprocation as a negative sign. Even if she does shoot the kino down, it doesn't mean you can't try again later. Lastly, if a girl is seriously not interested, the worst she'll do is just tell you. I've had plenty of girl…
/r/seduction12/05/13 11:18 AM
17

Jesus fuck that's awful. How fucking old are you -- twelve?
/r/seduction12/05/13 11:08 AM
5

A lot of times, especially when the shit test is one that frames you negatively, I find the best thing to do is just to ignore it. Continue the conversation like it was never said. You don't have to "prove" anything to her. I doesn't deserve a response. It's a groundless accusation and you don't have to waste your time addressing it.
/r/seduction11/05/13 04:26 AM
18

Whenever a girl asks me for a drink and gets surprised by my no and then asks why, I always tell her something along the lines of "I don't need to get a girl drunk first./I want you to remember what we're doing later tonight."
/r/seduction10/05/13 03:18 AM
2

Part of gaming girls that are 9s or 10s is not falling into the traps that other guys do. You don't want to compliment them a lot, particularly on their looks. They've heard it all a thousand times. They'll have a lot of shit tests, but the best way to deal with them is just to ignore them. Don't even waste time trying to find an "alpha" way to answer them. Make sure you lead the interaction. You don't want to be the asshole hovering around her while she does her own thing.
/r/seduction09/05/13 04:41 AM
1

It's not about your skill at dancing, it's about your enthusiasm. If you're going all out and you don't care how bad it looks, it's awesome. I have a friend that has the wackiest fucking dance in the world, but I've seen so many girls approach him because of it. Just go out there and have fun and girls will be attracted to the energy.
/r/seduction09/05/13 04:37 AM
1

Dubious at best. Sure, I've kissed girls really quickly into interactions, but I was in a bar and alcohol was involved.
/r/seduction08/05/13 10:37 AM
3

Don't be the guy that hovers around waiting for a girl to break up with someone. Be friendly, but go out and meet other women for fuck's sake.
/r/seduction08/05/13 10:03 AM
2

There's a lot of truth to what you have to say about that initial rush you get from the validation you get from girls when you first pick up game. Actually, before I found seddit, as a result of losing a lot of weight, I started to get a lot more attention from girls. It was great at first, but then when I didn't go out and hook up, it would crush me. My inner game wasn't there at all. This is an easy stumbling block for people. I tend to agree that you need to take responsibility for how your a…
/r/seduction08/05/13 04:39 AM
2

I came in here to post that video. Plausible deniability is a huge factor. Everyone knows that when you ask a girl to come over and have dinner and watch a movie that you are going to be making a movie. She knows it, even if she claims not to. It's all about maintaining important appearances.
/r/seduction08/05/13 04:15 AM
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I actually just hooked up with a girl last night for the first time who told me she had been raped. The very first time she came to my place was about a month ago, and we started making out, but eventually she made an excuse to leave. I could tell she was really upset, but she wouldn't really say why. She ended up texting me later that last year a guy raped her and that she was really scared initially when she came back to my place. I just let her know that I cared about her a lot, that not havi…
/r/seduction07/05/13 04:51 AM
6

Do this a couple more times in the next few days. You'll get more comfortable approaching them, and then it's just a matter of prolonging the interaction and #-closing.
/r/seduction06/05/13 01:30 AM
4

"Did you just put something on me?" "Yes. My hand." Everything is about framing. No matter what you're doing, the context of how you do it is extremely important. Also, you may have just been too far away and the reach itself was super obvious. Get closer.
/r/seduction06/05/13 01:20 AM
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The good news is that it does get better. You'll find a girl who you actually really like and really want to have that connection with. You'll find out that when you start getting physical all those worries about your body or experience fade into the background because you're so into her. When it does happen, you're realize all those worries are baseless. She's obviously into you physically. It's not like you'll take off your shirt and she suddenly realize you're not Brad Pitt. As for the sex it…
/r/seduction05/05/13 04:50 AM
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This is it exactly. Speaking from the standpoint of evolution, the female will always choose the more confident male. In animals, it's easier to see this in displays of dominance or mating rituals, but when it comes down to it, it goes the same for any pick up situation. You can either approach a girl knowing you're awesome and put your best foot forward, or you can approach a girl with tons of anxiety and self-doubt, and come off looking second-rate.
/r/seduction05/05/13 04:29 AM
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First of all, unless you ask her, you can't know why she said no, and perhaps even though you wouldn't get a straight answer. Maybe she just had other plans and was busy. You can't always find a suitable time to meet up with someone right away. Secondly, the whole "let me know" text after the rejection was awful. The only response you ever need to a rejection is "okay". Drop it and stop talking. Let her cool off for a couple days. Then text and start a new conversation. Don't remind her that she…
/r/seduction05/05/13 02:02 AM
1

Now I feel like my first number close should be a HUGE deal, but honestly it was just a natural progression of the night and the conversation. This is a pretty important realization that I feel like a lot of guys don't understand. In a good, natural interaction with a girl, there shouldn't be any big, scary "movie moment" where you have to muster up your courage to make a huge deal about getting her number, kissing her, taking her home, having sex, etc... It should just be the next step in the n…
/r/seduction05/05/13 01:53 AM
2

"I'm going to X for drinks. You should join me."
/r/seduction05/05/13 01:47 AM
2

As someone who lost their virginity rather late, I know exactly what you mean. I got good at pulling girls home, but I was too self-conscious about my virginity to actually have sex. It took finding a girl that I was really interested in and a couple dates before I was comfortable enough to do it. We would get sexual and then stop before it got to sex, so I slowly worked myself up to it. It's just a process of exposing yourself to it until you're comfortable enough.
/r/seduction05/05/13 01:45 AM
1

Unlike most of the people here, I love female wings. Generally, when I go to the bar with a female friend, we'll separate and do our own things for awhile. If she's an outgoing girl, she'll usually have made a couple new friends after while. If I see her talking to some attractive girls, I go over and say something to her, then introduce myself. It's a super simple way to inject yourself into any group. After that, run your game like normal.
/r/seduction05/05/13 01:41 AM
3

Yes. When I was younger, if I touched a girl and she didn't seem "into it", I would back off because I thought it was unwanted. Since I started reading seddit, I just decided until I get a firm, obvious answer, I would continue to kino. The entire time I was fiddling with the girl's underwear while we were talking to the engineer, she didn't bat an eyelash. Never even looked at me. Never encouraged me to keep going. I had the advantage of already having slept with her, but the principle still st…
/r/seduction04/05/13 03:12 PM
1

OKC dates can be a lot of fun. Go into the date with the mindset that regardless of how the date goes and how you click with the girl that you're going to have fun no matter what. There's literally zero consequences. It's not like she's in your social circle and you'll see her again and have awkward moments if the date was terrible. Pick a fun venue that you could enjoy all on your own. Don't be afraid to cut the date short if it's going badly. Amuse yourself. Don't try to entertain her.
/r/seduction04/05/13 04:40 AM
1

Most important for me is to stick to my schedule. I have my "gym time" and my "reading time" and "cooking time". It's really important that you set aside time for each activity and never skip them. As for "no pain, no gain", I think that really only is relevant to the physical nature of the gym. If you're miserable learning guitar, it probably just means you don't enjoy and shouldn't be doing it. Find things that make you happy and that you enjoy doing. Don't worry about the hobbies you pick up …
/r/seduction04/05/13 04:37 AM
4

Avoid bullshit questions -- where do you live? What do you do? What did you study? -- and just use each interaction as an exercise in being funny. They're going to have 10-20 of the same versions of each conversation. Being the guy who sticks out will be a huge advantage. Ask her unique questions. Be overtly sexual.
/r/seduction03/05/13 12:45 PM
6

Date 2 was pretty textbook. The only thing I would've changed is a little less making out. Super excessive displays of affection seem a little classless to me. Besides, it builds way more sexual tension if you only do it a little and tease her with the promise of more to come later at your place.
/r/seduction03/05/13 02:28 AM
8

I've actually F-closed a girl a year after I met her twice. I honestly just sent her a message like "Did you get a new phone?" or something because she popped up on an app I had. We chatted a little. A week later, she told me she broke up with her boyfriend and needed "help". We met that Saturday and banged. It was pretty righteous. Just yesterday I texted a girl I hadn't talked to in... Nine months. I ran into her once after we initially met and she was bartending. We saw each other and she rec…
/r/seduction01/05/13 04:42 AM
4

She stood you up with no call or text. Why do you want to see her again? That's a completely disrespectful thing for someone to do. It tells me she's not at all interested in me as a person, and all that she is interested in is the attention I give her.
/r/seduction30/04/13 01:26 AM
11

To be honest, you were probably habitually pissing her off. I had the same problem when I was younger. I thought I was just "palling around" with someone, but I'd be slowly driving them crazy by constantly ribbing them. Eventually, people are just going to blow up like that. I think you need to step back on the whole "negging" thing. People do it thinking it makes them playful and aloof and cool, and if you're not reading their body language, you're probably doing it too much and coming off like…
/r/seduction30/04/13 01:21 AM
1

Open mics are great. I've been to musical and comedic open mics on dates and they're always a lot of fun.
/r/seduction29/04/13 11:38 AM
1

Go for it.
/r/seduction29/04/13 10:46 AM
2

I thought it was a fantastic on the spot line. If you weren't paying attention, you could've missed it completely, but the way I said it and the look I gave her, she knew exactly what I meant.
/r/seduction29/04/13 04:20 AM
2

I think abundance of opportunity has to come before abundance mentality. If you're fucking different girls every day, obviously some girl shooting you down isn't going to bother you much. You can text a girl in your rotation and go get laid. However, when you first start game, this obviously isn't going to be the case. You will struggle with AA, rejection, outcome dependence, and probably oneitis once you start having success with women and fear losing them. It'll take some bad nights for you to…
/r/seduction28/04/13 04:27 AM
1

So, you're being deceitful and manipulative. Neither of those are, as you would put it, "alpha".
/r/seduction27/04/13 02:46 AM
1

Honestly, my go to opener is "hi!" I see a lot of posts asking about how to approach girls. Should I be direct? Should I be situational? Should I ask an opinion question? Once you realize that the first thing you say to a girl doesn't fucking matter you can say anything you goddamn like. My favorite K-close story started with "You're not my friend either!" Ninety-nine times out of one hundred, no one will ever remember the first words you said to them. It's whatever that comes after that counts.…
/r/seduction26/04/13 05:03 PM
3

thinking of sending something random like :[ to tell her im sad then just brushing it off. Oh my god. No. No. No no no no no no no no. This attention seeking bullshit is exactly how you end up an AFC. Girls are not there to be your goddamn life-jacket. They're there to stick your dick in. They need to know this. You being their crying shoulder is just as bad as being theirs. You're nor their goddamn friend. You want to fuck this girl, and she should know it.
/r/seduction26/04/13 04:56 PM
3

I'm always a fan of abundance mentality posts. It's easy to talk about it once you come from abundance and having a rotation of girls that you know you can meet/fuck. It's a lot harder to get that abundance of opportunity mentality, which is so key to really "getting off the floor" of the game, so to speak. I have gotten to the point where I don't have enough time for all the girls I've got in my rotation and it's time to prioritize. A year ago, if you told me I'd be saying that, I would've laug…
/r/seduction26/04/13 04:46 PM
2

First of all, she's not interested. Secondly, stealing a girl out of a relationship is nothing to be proud of. At best, it means the relationship was shit to begin with. At worst, it makes you a snake and her a cheater. Thirdly, you don't live in the goddamn Bermuda Triangle. There are other women. Delete/block this girl on Facebook and start meeting people. If you honestly live in a retirement community, as you apparently do, then move out. Honestly. If you're not happy where you are, make a go…
/r/seduction26/04/13 04:28 PM
3

Open mic nights are amazing date venues. Any music in general is great for a date.
/r/seduction26/04/13 04:15 PM
2

Close my eyes and just dance without looking at anything. Let the music wash over me and take me over. As soon as I open my eyes, I have the biggest smile on my face.
/r/seduction26/04/13 04:40 AM
5

I tend to tell girls that I'm a seal trainer at the big aquarium nearby. They eat that shit up.
/r/seduction25/04/13 03:47 AM
3

Jesus Christ. I had no idea that crazy bastard was still playing music. Anyway, concerts are always a fantastic date idea. You won't have to constantly be "entertaining" the girl with your conversation. You can just have fun watching the concert, drinking, and escalating kino. Best date I ever went to was to a concert.
/r/seduction25/04/13 03:46 AM
27

I've thought about making a post to this effect, but I didn't think it'd really be long enough. The point is, in the past year, pretty much every girl I've hooked up with has given me the exact same compliment. "I like how you just go for what you want." Most of the time they're talking about how I guided the first date or two, wasn't afraid to escalate kino and go for a kiss, then suggest leaving to go back to my place. I never hid my intentions from her, and I was never too shy to stop myself …
/r/seduction25/04/13 03:27 AM
7

I teach elementary school. I think the biggest skill that teaching imparts you with is the ability to think on your feet quickly. Being in a room full of 6-12 year old kids, you have to be ready for anything to happen at the drop of a hat. It also just fosters a lot of spontaneity and fun. I spend all day goofing around with kids and the energy spills over into pick up. I blurt out ridiculous stuff for my own amusement, make faces, and generally just have a fun attitude. Girls love it.
/r/seduction24/04/13 03:46 PM
4

Semantics matter. They're the different between "Oh God, is this a shit test? How should I react? How do I play this right? How can I impress her? and "I'm just gonna amuse myself."
/r/seduction23/04/13 02:59 PM
1

/r/okcupid is there for this kind of thing, specifically. For my dollar, OKC is a pretty good way to get laid. I've met about five girls from OKC and I've fucked two of them, and a third is in the making. It's not a bad average if you ask me. The most important thing is to message them with something that directly relates to their profile. It shows you're paying attention. It can be a comment about a specific picture (though try to comment less on their physical appearance and more on something …
/r/seduction23/04/13 02:05 PM
5

This graph missed the point of the original post, found here. What /u/pjeb is saying that regardless of what the girl is doing, whether or not it is a shit test, you should treat it as a test. OP has misconstrued this as a test of your ability to determine if it is a shit test, hence the No-No result being "GREAT!" when it should be "Nothing gained nor lost." The distinction is small, but there. OP would have you on your toes, always trying to figure out if it is a shit-test or not and how you s…
/r/seduction23/04/13 01:57 PM
105

It's like when you say, "I'm not good with names." and you remember her name - she loves that. Be a self-fulfilling prophecy. I don't think you know what that idiom means.
/r/seduction23/04/13 01:52 PM
3

Leaving aside the terrible "Bet you a dinner" line, the next big fuck up is "so what is a good idea?" She's already displayed a small amount of disinterest by refusing dinner once. She probably doesn't want a relationship and thinks you want something more serious than her. Hence the decline. All you're doing by asking that question is re-affirming her belief. You're giving her all the power and trying to please her. You want to do the "right thing" and impress her. Whenever a girl declines your…
/r/seduction23/04/13 04:35 AM
1

I think you missed the point, just a wee bit.
/r/seduction23/04/13 04:25 AM
5

I was assuming that he could at least be a minimal level of fun and charming to pull it off. Obviously a dude creeping up behind you and whispering "You like to play with balls" into your ear like he's Hannibal Lechter is probably gonna turn most girls off.
/r/seduction22/04/13 10:32 AM
6

I think you're kinda missing the point. Pretty much anything can be construed in a sexual light with the proper emphasis and inflection in your tone. It's just a playful attitude. If she compliments you, accuse her of seducing you. If she touches you, tell her she only gets one freebie before your start charging, etc..
/r/seduction22/04/13 10:30 AM
1

It's pretty solid. I generally start a conversation with some kind of in-joke from the approach to remind her who I am and add something unique to our interaction.
/r/seduction22/04/13 04:35 AM
-2

Any easy way to break into sexual talk is to find literally anything that could be even remotely construed as innuendo. Her: I play volleyball -- You: So, you like playing with balls, eh? After that, it's an instant in-joke. Great for starting up a text conversation later. Once you've broken the sexual talk barrier, then it's totally easy to continue to do it. Often in bars, once I'm dancing with a girl, after a couple minutes and I've gotten some good kino going, I'll just tell her she's really…
/r/seduction22/04/13 04:31 AM
1

When doesn't matter. It's what you say that matters. You can text a girl five minutes later or a week later. It's about content, not timing.
/r/seduction22/04/13 04:22 AM
3

how is she going to ask you your age if she can't ask questions? How are you going to ask her to dance, if you can't use questions? "Come dance with me", "Let's dance", "follow me" Shit works both ways. "Tell me your age." "Tell me about your job." Blah blah blah. There's nothing wrong with questions. You just have to ask the right questions.
/r/seduction22/04/13 04:17 AM
1

If this happened with a girl I was actually dating, I would've straight up asked her "Do you honestly want me to look at your friend's tits?" If yes, look. If no, don't look. Once I'm dating a girl I stop dealing with shit tests.
/r/seduction21/04/13 10:11 AM
2

I'd probably fall back into something about how sexy they are. It's easier if you've been talking to them for awhile and have a good feel for them. Sometimes I straight up tell a girl I want to fuck the shit out of them. If you've got a good sexual vibe going already it can work.
/r/seduction21/04/13 06:29 AM
19

I would probably just refuse their attempts to get me to say specific words and just start whispering dirty shit in their ear, but that's just me.
/r/seduction19/04/13 10:56 AM
4

I was the same way when I got here. I didn't have a specific girl in mind, but I was just dying to get a girlfriend. A year later, now I have to avoid getting into relationships.
/r/seduction19/04/13 03:14 AM
1

This is less an issue of outcome independence, and more of an issue with abundance mentality. This video from Julien will help you a lot. It talks a lot about that "falling in love" with a random girl after talking to her for a couple minutes.
/r/seduction18/04/13 04:26 AM
1

Text conversation: Don't respond to that dumb bullshit. In person: When a girl starts wandering into some conversation I don't want to have, I straight up tell her. I don't care about her ex-boyfriends, and I find drama with people pointless. You can be very direct or more "considerate" about it. I'll occasionally just start having my own conversation so she gets the point that I'm changing the subject. Her: So, Suzie told me I have a fat ass and -- Me: Lovely weather we're having today, huh?
/r/seduction18/04/13 04:04 AM
2

It's all about knowing it'll happen. Last night, I had dinner and a movie at my place set up with a girl I'd been texting for like two weeks. Always super sexual, so when she agreed to the movie at my place, I knew it was on like Donkey Kong. I was super laid back during dinner, nothing real special. Got back to my place and cuddled up for the movie. At first, I got some LMR because she was worried about her period starting soon. So I just said "ok" and went back to watching the movie. If a girl…
/r/seduction17/04/13 04:29 AM
12

Then this FR is clearly not written for you.
/r/seduction17/04/13 03:28 AM
1

OKC.
/r/seduction17/04/13 02:04 AM
11

You don't have to wait for a sexually explicit text. Just anything that you could make any kind of innuendo with. Her: I played softball today. You: So, you like soft balls, eh? ;) Then that's your "inside joke" to start a conversation or insert into any interaction.
/r/seduction16/04/13 05:59 PM
11

She wants attention, but she's not at all interested in any kind of relationship with you. Ignore her.
/r/seduction16/04/13 09:50 AM
2

Playing hard to get isn't necessarily about what you say, but how you carry yourself. You're a busy person with important things to do. You're not constantly texting her because you're bored. You have specific spaces of free time, and if she can't meet then, you'll just wait, because you can't go around cancelling all your plans just for her. Perhaps, when she asks you a question, you avoid answering playfully, but I only really do that in the initial meeting, never past day two. Otherwise it ju…
/r/seduction16/04/13 09:34 AM
2

It's a fine line to walk. It takes a good amount of experience to understand how each person has a different "line", and how each person reacts differently. For awhile, I would cross the line and make things awkward because people thought I was being confrontational, even though that's not where I was coming from at all. It took a concerted effort on my part to hold in some of those "cocky" comments, but it's really improved my social life, in general. A lot of how a joke is received is how it's…
/r/seduction16/04/13 04:34 AM
1

Why not just take your phone and turn it off? That way you can pull it out if you really need it. Or put your number in her phone and call yourself. Lots of options are better than a pen and napkin.
/r/seduction16/04/13 04:31 AM
2

I had the same thing with sexual escalation. I'd do well in the bar, but when it came time to getting the girl out of the bar and into my bed, I'd really back out of it, because I was self-conscious about my inexperience at the time. The only way to get over it is constant exposure. Keep opening sets and push them further and further each time. Do something a little outside your comfort zone each time. Before you know it, getting a girl's number will be like batting your eyelashes.
/r/seduction16/04/13 04:28 AM
5

Cheating on a girl aside, just tell her straight up "Hey, I think you're sexy, but I don't want a relationship. Let's get together and just have some fun without getting serious."
/r/seduction16/04/13 04:26 AM
15

Give her a high five and say "Catch you on the flip-side."
/r/seduction16/04/13 04:21 AM
2

There's nothing wrong with wanting to spend time with another person. Just relax. Don't make shit more complicated than it needs to be. See her and continue gaming on other chicks. Keeping busy is the best way to avoid "over-exposure" and one-itis.
/r/seduction15/04/13 10:50 AM
1

I just posted this in another thread, but I think it would go just as well here. I had a Day 2 tonight with a girl I K-closed. The kiss was just a tight-lipped peck, but I live abroad in a more conservative society and we were in public, this was a pretty big IOI. Tonight, we had dinner then went back to my place for a movie. As soon as we met, my hands were on her. On the way back to my place, I put my arm around her and pulled her close. We cuddle up in my bed and I had my hands on her hands. …
/r/seduction14/04/13 02:41 PM
2

Escalate. If a girl is into you, ramp up that kino. Touch her. Touch her all over. Touch her sexually. Wrap your arm around her. Stroke her back. Brush against her breasts or ass. Lightly trail your fingertips over any bare skin you can find. I had a Day 2 tonight with a girl I K-closed. The kiss was just a tight-lipped peck, but I live abroad in a more conservative society and we were in public, this was a pretty big IOI. Tonight, we had dinner then went back to my place for a movie. As soon as…
/r/seduction14/04/13 02:40 PM
3

Saloon, eh? Maybe you can stop by sometime for some sasparilla.
/r/seduction14/04/13 02:31 PM
10

Can't talk to her. Can't touch her. What's the point?
/r/seduction14/04/13 02:30 PM
2

I live in Korea. There's a massive difference between Korean and foreign women.
/r/seduction11/04/13 09:57 PM
2

We've been "dating" two months. We haven't had the exclusivity talk yet. I see her on weekends, and I've always told her when I meet other women during the week.
/r/seduction11/04/13 09:57 PM
2

Sure. Halloween 2010 I met some Korean girl in a park. We exchanged numbers. We met once after that, but things kinda died out. Then, Christmas 2011, she got a new phone and she showed up on an app I had, so I sent her some bullshit message. She responded and we texted a bit. Like a week later she broke up with her boyfriend, and asked me to "help" her. I knew what was up. We met and went out to the bar. Danced a bit. Shit got a little weird with some Korean guy, so we ended up leaving and going…
/r/seduction11/04/13 03:52 AM
3

"I'd like to eat your liver with some farva beans and a nice Chianti." Seriously, though, openers don't fucking matter. Say anything. Blurt out the stupidest thing you can imagine. Tell her you want to talk to her but you don't know what to say because she's too hot. Say hi. Any goddamn thing. I've opened girls with shit like "Come here often?" to "You're not my friend!" and made out with them within 5 minutes. Can you honestly remember the first thing any of your friends or past girlfriends eve…
/r/seduction11/04/13 03:46 AM
3

Tyler's my absolute favorite. I really love that he comes from a very internal sense of the game. It's less about what you do and more about how you feel when you do it. You don't have to be a jacked gym rat wearing designer clothes to get a girl. Just be who you are, own it, and have fun, and the girls will come.
/r/seduction11/04/13 03:43 AM
0

*loser
/r/seduction11/04/13 03:27 AM
1

Prolonged or repeated eye contact is a good sign. If he's checking you out from across the room, it means he's interested, but for whatever reason isn't coming to you. Here is where making the first step and approaching the guy could solve a lot of problems. Sure, I'm sure girls would love to be swept off their feet by a tall, dark, and handsome guy. But there are very few guys out there who are complete naturals that weren't AFCs before they became PUAs. Approaching can be the hardest part for …
/r/seduction11/04/13 03:21 AM
1

You're only worried about her losing interest because you don't have abundance mentality. There are plenty of other hot girls out there, and I'm sure some of them even live around where you do, too. People argue on seddit back and forth about text game, but for my money, it's only to be used for logistics. About 99% of anything else will just wind you up in the friendzone because you end up just making boring small talk and losing the attraction you're trying to maintain. I used to run myself in…
/r/seduction11/04/13 12:55 AM
2

From what you say, it sounds like she's doing it for the attention. It doesn't mean she harbors any specific interest in you. That doesn't mean you can't foster some new interest. If she's the kind of girls that expects to get what she wants from any guy, be the guy that doesn't give her what she wants. Don't make yourself constantly available. Don't drop everything you're doing to accommodate her and her needs. Make sure she knows that you aren't putting her before yourself and your own needs.
/r/seduction10/04/13 04:50 AM
2

Yes, she was interested. If/When you see this girl next, put your hands on her. She was probably a little bit distant at the end of the night because she had been telegraphing you so many signs and you weren't really responding with any IOIs of your own. She may have thought that you weren't really interested, or confused about why you weren't getting her signals. You don't really have to bother texting her a lot, since you live pretty far away. If you're in her area again, send her a message a …
/r/seduction10/04/13 04:47 AM
3

There's nothing wrong with showing interest. Girls aren't retarded. If you approach a girl at a coffee shop and ask for the time, and then stick around and continue to have a conversation, she knows what the fuck is going on. You can't use "cool and aloof" as an excuse not to approach because you're afraid of rejection or "showing interest". The key is not showing too much interest. That's where you start becoming needy and clingy. That shit is about as attractive as cancer. There's nothing wron…
/r/seduction10/04/13 04:36 AM
3

Before the bar started to close and people were getting ready to go home, you should've suggested having one of the girls show you to another good bar nearby. It would've given you an "excuse" to be there waiting around instead of just feeling like a chump. I wouldn't worry about the cop too much. I mean, knowing those places, he probably swings by around closing time regularly just to make sure nothing is going on, but just being there waiting around isn't a crime. Who's to say you aren't waiti…
/r/seduction10/04/13 04:30 AM
0

And you think this behavior is unique to seddit?
/r/seduction10/04/13 02:41 AM
1

Exactly. I've been running it on Korean girls for over a year. I know pretty much every goddamn body part there is. The best thing is when you say you'll take a quiz, and if you get X answers right, she has to kiss you. Run the game enough times and you can't fail.
/r/seduction09/04/13 04:02 PM
3

Being too interested and available is unattractive, but not showing signs of interest. Just saying hi or touching a guy while socializing isn't going to scare anyway. It's sometimes nice to have a girl show some overt interest. Calling/texting constantly, being too needy/clingy, etc... are bad things, but not just letting a guy subtly know you're into him.
/r/seduction09/04/13 11:09 AM
2

One of my favorite things to do with girls that don't speak English is to ask them to teach me their language. And, of course, I want to start with body parts. I'll touch her somewhere, like the arm or leg, and ask her how to say it in their language. Then keep going. Ask really specific words for her hands -- each finger, knuckles, fingernails, palm, wrist, etc... and touch those hands all up, baby. Work your way to more intimate areas. Touch her neck and collarbone. Work towards her face. Brus…
/r/seduction09/04/13 02:21 AM
1

Is it so hard to just ignore stupid shit like that? It just makes you come off as a huge asshole. Yes, kid are obnoxious. But over-reacting and cussing at a kid over some water on your shirt just lowers you. Laugh it off and make out with the girl some more.
/r/seduction08/04/13 10:46 AM
0

It's been debated among my friends. Some are of the mind that knowing Korean can actually hurt you, because it detracts from the "exotic-ness" of hooking up with a foreigner. I've had girls literally call me boring because I spoke Korean to them, instead of English. Hongdae is easily the best place to go for picking up chicks. There are plenty of young girls there that speak English. And if it doesn't work out, plenty of easy foreign girls.
/r/seduction08/04/13 04:13 AM
4

Correlation does not mean causation.
/r/seduction08/04/13 02:46 AM
2

I've only had a couple SNLs in Korea with Korean girls in the past couple years. Foreign girls are a lot easier, for sure. Korean can help with gaming girls. I used to go all-out with my Korean, but didn't get the results I wanted. Now, I tend to try English first, then see how it goes from there. Plenty of girls in Seoul speak English fairly well. Either way, if she does or doesn't speak English, I tend to keep my Korean hidden away. I'll say some things in Korean, but not enough to really give…
/r/seduction08/04/13 02:45 AM
10

That guy sounds like an asshole.
/r/seduction08/04/13 02:38 AM
2

I have never experienced speed dating in particular, but I feel like as in any reaction that is extremely time sensitive, your biggest strategy should be on making yourself identifiable from the other 20 dudes she's going to meet at the event. Don't have a boring conversation about work or school. Ask her fun, sexual questions, like her first kiss, worst kiss, etc... to put out the sexual vibe and differentiate yourself a bit.
/r/seduction07/04/13 03:57 PM
1

Well, absence makes the heart grow fonder, they say. If you're not always texting, you make yourself less available, and therefor, more desirable. I've had lots of girls that I didn't talk to for days, weeks, or even months, but if I did happen to text them, or if they texted me out of the blue, it was still very warmly received.
/r/seduction07/04/13 03:51 AM
1

1) Continue using kino. If she was so against it, she wouldn't have agreed to a date in the first place. Just be sure she knows it's a date and not just a friendly "hey let's get dinner." The point remains, if she didn't want you touching her, she wouldn't stay in contact with you. Now it's up to you to escalate. 2) Usually, if there's a long time between meeting, I would say refrain from texting, but this is someone you know well. Suddenly not texting her or ignoring here would seem strange. Pl…
/r/seduction05/04/13 09:03 AM
3

For future reference, if there's ever a time where a girl gives you a shit test like that and you're left speechless -- just ignore it. Change the subject and continue talking.
/r/seduction05/04/13 08:58 AM
1

I've dated girls for several weeks, making it known that I wasn't considering us exclusive, until eventually they would just tell me "I don't want you to be single," as in, they were looking for a relationship. At that point, it's up for you to decide if you want a relationship or not. As far as not talking to them or hanging out too much, just get other shit to do. I only feel like texting girls when I'm bored. If I've got my mind occupied on something, I don't really care about texting them.
/r/seduction05/04/13 08:57 AM
2

So, you're bragging about a SNL with insane clingy girls who apparently love you for life after one day? Okay.
/r/seduction05/04/13 08:33 AM
0

It was still after just one day.
/r/seduction05/04/13 03:58 AM
0

Oh, well that's different then. That's even worse. Jesus. If some girl sent me that after a KISS? After ONE DAY? Don't stick your dick in crazy. Stage 5 Clinger, son.
/r/seduction05/04/13 03:26 AM
0

Sew up your vagina.
/r/seduction05/04/13 03:21 AM
3

When doesn't matter nearly as much as what. I'm sick of the "when should I text her" conversation. It implies that she's in the driver's seat and you're already falling into oneitis for her -- worrying about what you can do to impress her and like you more, or at least not fuck it up. Text her when you goddamn feel like. Don't make bullshit chit chat. Tell her you're taking her out on Friday at 8 PM and that she should wear something hot.
/r/seduction05/04/13 03:20 AM
2

Sounds like a train wreck. Keep her on the back burner. Don't make her a priority. There are tons of available women that don't live far away from you. Go out and game them. If you happen to be in her area, tell her so and suggest a meet up.
/r/seduction05/04/13 03:17 AM
1

Oh my God, yes.
/r/seduction05/04/13 03:15 AM
3

Put it inside something. Over and over. That usually makes mine go away.
/r/seduction05/04/13 03:11 AM
0

If she's the kind of girl that would think I'm just trying to get her drunk to hook up with her, I wouldn't want to spend time with her anyway. I don't really waste my time with girls that are rape paranoid, or girls that don't drink at all, for that matter.
/r/seduction05/04/13 01:53 AM
-2

"FB Game" Scroll. Scroll. Yawn.
/r/seduction04/04/13 01:56 PM
72

Just don't make your whole game about waiting for that fish.
/r/seduction04/04/13 01:53 PM
1

Take charge and tell her where and when you're doing something. It's okay to have a back up plan in case the restaurant is closed, the bar is no fun, etc... but don't make the second option something that initially competes with the first choice. It's there just in case something goes awry.
/r/seduction04/04/13 04:46 AM
13

I, personally, would never go on a coffee date. Exactly for this reason. It generally is self-defined as a middle of the day date, possibly before some other evening engagement. It doesn't offer as much opportunity for kino, and without kino, and kind of escalation feels out of place. Skip coffee and just go out for drinks.
/r/seduction04/04/13 04:33 AM
1

I will usually ask them to guess how old I look or give them a completely ridiculous answer and ignore them when the ask for my "real" age.
/r/seduction02/04/13 11:00 AM
1

I think you got that backwards.
/r/seduction02/04/13 11:00 AM
1

I know that one of the biggest hurdles with new guys to the seduction community is getting them to approach. Which is why I've always been surprised by how many times girls approach me. I grew up fat, and even now that I've lost a lot of weight, while I objectively realize I'm good looking, I would never say I'm so hot that girls would just throw themselves at me. And yet they do. I'm dating a girl, but she was out of town for one weekend, so I went out on my own. I didn't have any objectives fo…
/r/seduction02/04/13 10:24 AM
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I live in Seoul. I go out pretty frequently on weekends. People who say that "western game" doesn't work on Korean girls are only referring to day game. Korea is huge on the "stranger danger" culture and no one talks to anyone they don't know. In the day time. Go to a bar and the shit is on like Donkey Kong.
/r/seduction31/03/13 01:38 PM
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I'm trying to get this girl to like me. So much wrong here. You shouldn't be trying to make a girl like you. You can't live your life trying to impress other people and live by their standards. If you ever do get a girlfriend this way, she's just going to shit all over you and make you miserable, and you'll stay with her because you don't think you can get another girlfriend. Find a role model. Someone you think is cool. Emulate them. Do things that make you someone you respect. The rest will co…
/r/seduction29/03/13 03:28 AM
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The biggest component to flirting is body language and kino. Display open, confident posture. Don't slouch or hide your hands in your pockets. Take up space. When I started, I was terrible at kino. I never touched people. I felt like I was invading their personal space. Kinoing at bars is the easiest thing in the world. The first thing I do when I meet someone is touch them. Take baby steps. Work with quick, friendly, "safe" touches to start, then get more intimate.
/r/seduction29/03/13 02:30 AM
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Part of it is framing like other guys are saying. Right from the start you're flirty and sexual with her. You don't treat her like you would any other guy friend. You treat her like she's a woman you're interested in sexually. If I'm with a girl and she gives me the "nice guy" or "new friend" line, I tell her I'm not. Literally. "I'm not a nice guy/your friend. I'm your lover." It's all about how you deliver it. Make it playful and it's "just a joke", but you have already stated your intentions …
/r/seduction29/03/13 02:24 AM
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Case 1 -- The whole "just friends" things fucked it up bad. I would say she's not interested. You certainly didn't help yourself. If you have plans, cancel them. Tell her something important came up. Go out and do something else. Act normally while you're around her. You don't want to be defensive about it. Eventually, when you have fun plans for the weekend or something, invite her along to join you and your friends. Try to make progress there. Case 2 -- Assume attraction. She gave you the numb…
/r/seduction29/03/13 02:22 AM
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There doesn't need to be a "suave" line for every goddamn interaction. Be honest with the girl. There's nothing more "alpha" than being upfront with your intentions. Tell her, yes, this is a date. Before I found seddit, I was always intimidated and thought if I was too forward, I'd scare them away. So I'd make plans, but it was never called a date. So they never were. It was just a fast-track to the friend zone. True, calling it a date may cause some girls to pull back or reject, but they'll at …
/r/seduction29/03/13 02:16 AM
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I used to be the same way before I lost a lot of weight. I'd avoid looking into mirrors or having pictures taken because I hated how I looked. I've improved myself a lot, and now I can't stop checking out my reflection. It feels pretty awesome. While you're looking in the mirror, fixing your hair or whatever, just tell yourself "You're a goddamn handsome bastard." It feels a little silly at first, but it does wonders for your self-esteem.
/r/seduction29/03/13 02:13 AM
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I would ignore it at first. If it becomes a habit for her to always bring up old boyfriends, I would tell her that I don't care about her exes and I don't want to hear about them, but in a non-defensive and jealous way.
/r/seduction29/03/13 02:10 AM
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I'm a big fan of the first example here. If a girl tries to "flake", I just say "ok" and keep doing what I'm doing. I'm not going to chase her. If she wants to walk away, I'm not going to stop her.
/r/seduction28/03/13 12:53 PM
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Put them on the back burner. If they contact you, respond. If not, there's really no reason to talk to them. If you do happen to be going their way, send them a message. "Hey, I'll be in town soon. Let's get some drinks." There's women all over the place. Don't need to get caught up on the ones that are far away.
/r/seduction28/03/13 12:49 PM
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So stop negging. It's not that hard. For a long time, people called me a dick and I had a "whatever, haha" reaction. I thought I didn't need to change to make other people happy. What it comes down to is I'm not happy without having people around me, and no one wants to hang out with a negative asshole. Just stop doing it.
/r/seduction28/03/13 12:47 PM
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My response would've been "ok". It's obviously bullshit and she's trying to evoke a reaction from you. Whether it's a jealous reaction or an "alpha" reaction doesn't really matter. You're trying to impress her. Fuck it. She found competition? Good for her. It's no skin off your nuts.
/r/seduction28/03/13 04:55 AM
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... That is just winging. Your buddy talks to the girl he wants to, and you occupy the friend. There's no trickeration here.
/r/seduction28/03/13 04:53 AM
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Five hours? Do you have a job, dude?
/r/seduction28/03/13 04:48 AM
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Not swinging back at a guy doesn't make you a bitch. He was over-reacting, and getting drawn into a fight with him only lowers you. Obviously don't become his punching bag, but just keep the tensions down as best you can. That way he looks like a douche bag, and you're the guy who keeps cool under pressure. Secondly, fucking other girls won't make you miss your ex any less. Work on self improvement. Find something that makes you happy and takes away your thoughts of her. Do that and you'll get o…
/r/seduction28/03/13 04:37 AM
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Didn't you get the memo? Chicks dig racism.
/r/seduction28/03/13 04:34 AM
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What exactly do you see happening with this co-worker who suddenly has feelings for you after rejecting you two years ago? Before I lost weight and started seduction techniques, I always thought I'd be bitter about a girl suddenly being interested in my after I'd improved myself. Now I realize that's a silly idea. I can't blame a girl for not liking a guy who was as much of an AFC as I was, and I can't fault her for liking me now that I'm an overall awesome guy. The only experience I have with t…
/r/seduction28/03/13 04:30 AM
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Puppy dog eyes mean "kiss me now!" If you don't step it up soon, she's gonna move on.
/r/seduction27/03/13 12:09 PM
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I do this a lot, except we give each other "clues" and we have to find something. Like "Find something red", and they take a picture of anything red. It can get way more involved. It's an on-going thing with my girlfriend. We started playing it the day after we met and never stopped. It may even be like just once a week, but it can be fun finding cool stuff to take pictures of.
/r/seduction27/03/13 11:53 AM
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Don't think that you need to get a girl to be happy. Just having a girlfriend won't magically improve everything for you. You need to figure out what kind of person you want to be and make concrete changes to become closer to that person.
/r/seduction27/03/13 11:52 AM
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I always bring up early in the date a "trade-off", like I'll get the first round if she gets the next one. I've never had a girl second guess it.
/r/seduction26/03/13 12:07 PM
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I have hearing problems as well. I use it as an excuse to get close to people.
/r/seduction26/03/13 12:03 PM
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I have had lots of blatant public make outs in the middle of the bar that progressed quite easily into a SNL. The biggest hurdle with making out in a public place is resisting the temptation stop escalating. Sure, making out is fun, but don't just make out in a bar for hours. If it's 4 AM and you haven't left yet, you've fucked up. Make out by all means, but use it as a stepping stone to get out of there.
/r/seduction26/03/13 11:58 AM
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You don't have to respond to every message she sends you. Just give her the silent treatment for awhile. If she persists in sending messages even though they're unanswered, just tell her you don't want to have a relationship with her.
/r/seduction26/03/13 11:53 AM
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I can't see this appealing to anyone over the age of 14 years old.
/r/seduction25/03/13 04:02 PM
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If there was context to support it, she wouldn't have said "Uh oh not sure what that means."
/r/seduction25/03/13 11:31 AM
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It has that same "LOLE I'M SO RANDOM" tone that is common with 12 year old girls. Not attractive. Not saying it's a deal breaker, but I'd refrain from any "random" humor.
/r/seduction25/03/13 04:30 AM
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it takes her a whole day to text back Sometimes people are busy. Don't over think it. Did I do something wrong? Yes, you asked this question. Escalate incorrectly or something? I would never make out with a girl and not at least try to sleep with her. Especially if we're already in her apartment. I'm not really looking to get involved... should I even worry or should I shoot her a text asking if we're cool, saying I didn't mean to make her uncomfortable? No. Asking "are we okay" is the most beta…
/r/seduction25/03/13 03:27 AM
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"Fake it till you make it" isn't about you getting a girl on your first shot right out of the gate. It's about getting you out into the field. Inevitably, you will meet with rejection. That's the point. It teaches you that rejection isn't the big, scary monster you've built it up to be. Once you realize how petty rejections are, you'll have more natural confidence to approach women, remain outcome independent, foster an abundance mentality, and most importantly, just to be yourself. That's when …
/r/seduction25/03/13 03:22 AM
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I think this is something that a lot of people miss out on. I enjoy opportunities like this. Whenever I sense that a bunch of people are all complaining about a problem, but no one is willing to solve it, I make sure I fix the problem. I don't want to be just another asshole complaining about something, because I don't have the drive to fix it.
/r/seduction25/03/13 03:19 AM
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When I saw Facebook escalation, I cringed. Then I read it and at first I was like "not bad". Then I got to "duck minions". Cringe.
/r/seduction25/03/13 03:15 AM
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You can't talk to people you actually know? Jesus Christ. Not every conversation with a girl needs to be a deep, meaningful conversation. Talk about the fucking weather, what's bothering you at work, the little thing that happened during your day to cheer you up. Hell, don't fucking talk. Watch a goddamn movie in silence. You say you need to talk to women before they'll go out with you. I thought the same bullshit for a long time. You know what playing the friend gets you? A goddamn friendship. …
/r/seduction22/03/13 03:34 AM
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If you've never really met, why do you care? Are you really trying to start a long distance relationship with someone?
/r/seduction21/03/13 04:51 AM
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There's nothing wrong with being honest. It is really important when you form intimate relationships with people to be honest about what the relationship actually is. If you're unclear about something, people can get hurt. This is especially true if one person is very serious about the relationship and the other person isn't. Being "alpha" doesn't mean hiding feelings. It just means expressing them appropriately. I'm not saying that you have to profess your love to a girl after the first date. O…
/r/seduction21/03/13 04:47 AM
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Don't worry about other guys respecting you. Be a person you respect. Find a role model and emulate them. If you're in a spot where you're unsure of what to do, think "What would X do in this situation?" It could be some super smooth guy like James Bond, or even a friend of yours you think is a good, stand-up guy. Respect yourself first. Everything else comes naturally later.
/r/seduction21/03/13 03:19 AM
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Upvoted for the third point. I can't remember how many times in my AFC days that I scripted a conversation in my head, and then when it came down to it, nothing happened "as planned".
/r/seduction21/03/13 02:59 AM
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what I find difficult is how to actually get to playing said games "Hey, let's play a game." Honestly. There are so many questions about how to approach a girl or turn the conversation sexual or initiate kino. Just fucking do it. You're the same goddamn species. You're programmed the same way. You want to touch her. She wants to be touched. You want to play a game. She wants to play a game. Girls aren't that hard to figure out. You don't need an "excuse" to play a game or touch a girl. So I actu…
/r/seduction21/03/13 02:58 AM
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I used to hate dancing, mainly because I was incredibly self-conscious. When friends would go out with me, they'd all go dancing and I'd sit at the table and drink alone. For a long time, I resisted changing. Then I heard that people weren't inviting me out anymore because I was "weird" and wasn't taking a part in the group. It literally made them uncomfortable that I wasn't dancing. For awhile, I couldn't understand it. Why should they give a shit if I'm dancing or not? I shouldn't have to do s…
/r/seduction21/03/13 02:48 AM
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Well obviously no girl is going to marry a guy just because he can dance. Dancing is only supposed to get you in the door. If you couldn't get past a #-close that's your fault, not the dancing's.
/r/seduction21/03/13 02:44 AM
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Anything that shows your interest. I can be going for a kiss, or even as simple as actually saying that you're going on a date. I can't count how many times I asked a girl out to what I thought was a date only to realize they thought it was a "just friends" thing.
/r/seduction21/03/13 12:45 AM
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We can't give you direct openers. Direct openers are literally what you're thinking. "Hey, I just had to come say hi because you're so X. My name is Y. What's yours?"
/r/seduction20/03/13 11:55 AM
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All you can do is be honest. Tell her that you don't want a relationship, but you enjoy her company and want to spend time with her. She can take it or leave it. Don't be scared of her walking away. Abundance mentality dude. Things will be a lot worse if you go down the relationship route just to sleep with her. You won't be happy and she'll find out and it'll be a lot of ugly drama.
/r/seduction20/03/13 11:53 AM
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"I'm moving in a couple weeks, so I just want to have fun."
/r/seduction20/03/13 11:50 AM
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What exactly is the end game here? This, to me, falls into the pointless "just friends" texting that doesn't go anywhere romantically. If all you want is to be friends with the girl, you're doing fine. Otherwise shit like texting a girl "hey" is retarded. You don't have to say hello to her. Instead of "text me tomorrow at 3" I would've set up a date for then.
/r/seduction20/03/13 11:42 AM
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I found out about game when I was 24 years old. Growing up I had been really fat and had no experience with girls. From 22-23 years old, I lost a lot of weight and I got some experience with girls, pretty much all by luck, though I never went all the way with any of them. I was still way too afraid and self-conscious about my lack of experience. My ego was all fucked up. I'd go out expecting to make out with girls and when it didn't happen, I'd be really hard on myself. When I was 24 I found out…
/r/seduction20/03/13 11:30 AM
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I usually have a hard time watching long YT videos, but this video from Tyler is amazing. I have taken it to heart and it has really done a lot for my game. When you meet a girl, she might be a little interested in you, but it's your job to "knock her off the fence". A lot of AFCs are scared to make a move because it would scare a girl away or offend her, but it's what you need to do to get anywhere. Don't waste time with oneitis and pining over one girl. Go out and have fun and be up front with…
/r/seduction20/03/13 11:26 AM
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So say that. "Oh, yeah, I'm a nuclear physicist. Don't expect any free drinks, though!"
/r/seduction20/03/13 10:57 AM
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First of all, it doesn't matter what your job is. If it's something you enjoy and are passionate about, you can sell it to a girl. Second of all, there's nothing wrong with being direct. Obviously, don't turn the conversation into a boring interview, but there's no reason you can't just be honest about things. But, if you're dead set on the "mysterious/playful" route, there are some things you can do. Any time someone asks you a question, ask for them to guess the answer first. It works for anyt…
/r/seduction20/03/13 10:56 AM
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You're definitely spending too much time worrying about the technical aspect of the game, and you're not concentrating on the most important part -- meeting women. You can't be good at game without interacting with a woman. If all you're doing is smiling and nodding until it's your turn to speak, spending all your time planning your next "move", then you won't go anywhere. At its baseline, seduction is about forming a connection with someone. Whether it's simply a sexual connection, or a deeper,…
/r/seduction20/03/13 10:51 AM
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Part of going through with it was just seeing how into it she was. She'd make out with me like crazy, how hot she thought I was, how horny she was, and always initiating sexual stuff, so that all added up to "I guess I'm not so bad looking. I should stop being a pussy and do it already." She never asked me about past relationships. If she had, I would've been honest, but I wouldn't have been very excited about it. Once I lost it, I never had any self-consciousness about it again. I was essential…
/r/seduction19/03/13 12:01 PM
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Until I lost weight when I was 23, I never even really tried to pick up girls. I was too uncomfortable with my body. Afterwards, I was very fearful of what girls would think. When I started seeing my ex, I debated with myself about telling her beforehand, but there never seemed to be a good moment for it. It would've really broken up the feeling in the moment. After a week or two, I just went through with it. I performed really well, and I don't think she would've believed me if I told her I had…
/r/seduction19/03/13 11:20 AM
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That's just really awkward in my opinion. It's way too long. If you're going to tease a girl about something in a first message, make sure it's just a short thing. She obviously was not happy about that message, judging by the extremely sarcastic reply you got. All I do when sending out a first message is reference something from their profile and ask a question stemming off from that. It's not rocket science.
/r/seduction19/03/13 09:46 AM
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They need to feel like they're less then u and that they need to prove themselfs to u. You have serious issues.
/r/seduction19/03/13 04:48 AM
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I agree completely. Sometimes I think people in seduction get a little carried away with being the "cool, aloof, coy" guy routine. They're worried that if they show overt attraction they'll be "needy, clingy AFCs". I think it's a lot more "alpha" to just be upfront with a girl about your intentions. No need for any cloak and dagger stuff. It can be at any point of the interaction. Whether you open directly with "Hey, I just saw you and had to come say hello because you're so..." or you play it s…
/r/seduction19/03/13 04:35 AM
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I was in the exact same boat as you for a long time. Even longer. I didn't have sex until I was 24 years old. My first kiss was at like 21, but the next one was almost two years later. Once I lost a lot of weight, my experience with women started to take off really quickly, before I even knew anything about seduction. Still, I had those "what if I'm bad at sex" fears that you have. These are completely irrational fears. Your body is genetically engineered to have sex. You got here because of sex…
/r/seduction19/03/13 04:26 AM
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It's a common misconception that along with the DGAF attitude comes the ability to complete ignore any constructive criticism. If I approach one girl and she blows me out, I would never associate that with any major problem from my end. Maybe she just had a bad day or she's got a boyfriend. There are a lot of factors I can't control. If I approach 100 girls and they all blow me out, well then, the common factor is probably me and I need to adjust my game. But if I approach 1,000 girls and only 1…
/r/seduction19/03/13 04:14 AM
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Seems like a simple lesson, but I think it's one that a lot of people miss early on in the game. They are always trying to intellectualize the game and remember their escalation ladder and how to judge IOIs. Fuck that. Just go out and have fun. I didn't really get it until I started teaching. I spend all day with kids. Spending your whole day around kids, you end up doing a lot of things to amuse yourself, and it just ended up carrying over into gaming for me. After that, it got so much better.
/r/seduction17/03/13 01:59 PM
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I'm always focused on having fun. I'm always open for new adventures. I say a lot of stuff I "shouldn't say" and I'm unapologetic about it. I dance. I never use routines. I stay in the moment. I have social proof like a motherfucker.
/r/seduction17/03/13 01:54 PM
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Gaming in South Korea is a lot different. You can pretty much throw out Day Game. No one talks to anyone here. You can't just approach people at a coffee shop or grocery store. They'd look at you like you were an alien. Also, language barrier can create a lot of problems. In European countries it's probably much lower, and even SK has a high average English level for a Asian country, but it's still challenging. That being said, Night Game is directly on. SK is a modern country and when you go ou…
/r/seduction14/03/13 04:54 AM
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Well, there's a very fine line that is used when negging. Some people would advise you not to neg anyone that is less than an HB9. You can never really be certain which things will be a "sore spot" for people. They can be sensitive about something and you'd never know until you already put your foot in your mouth. The only reason negs work on hot girls is because they're used to having every single guy compliment them that it sets you apart from the rest. Makes you DQ them, show your abundance m…
/r/seduction14/03/13 04:51 AM
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This would go very well with the "I'm a spy" comment. Just tell her you're a spy and you'll send her the code word so she knows it's you. Best to make it a sexual one, too. I think the next time I do this, I'm going to use "Banana Hammock".
/r/seduction14/03/13 04:34 AM
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You're definitely going in the right direction. The next step is getting numbers and trying to set up Day 2s. They don't have to be one-on-one things. Sometimes, at your level, it's best to just say "Hey, my friends and I are going to do X, you should come, too." It's very low pressure on her end, and you don't sound needy. While you're out together, you can build some comfort and attraction with kino. Perhaps lay the ground work for getting a one-on-one date, and from there things really pick u…
/r/seduction14/03/13 04:32 AM
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It is probably a bit of an exaggeration for humans, but it's often seen in many other species. The top few do most of the mating. In humans, I wouldn't say that 20% of the males father 80% of the children, but I would argue that a small minority of men sleep with a much greater number of women in their lifetime than the average man. Condoms keep the children from happening.
/r/seduction14/03/13 12:34 AM
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This is an old video. In newer stuff he is a handsome guy.
/r/seduction12/03/13 10:55 AM
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I think a lot of people put way too much thought into the "when" of a text message. The most important thing is not the time of the message, but the content. You can deliver a good line in a text one minute after she texts you or the next day. It doesn't matter. A good response is a good response. I find the whole "wait 2x as long to text back" really makes it impossible to maintain any kind of decent back and forth. If she's replying quickly, there's no reason not to do the same. If she takes h…
/r/seduction12/03/13 10:24 AM
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This is really dependent on the context. There are very few situations I would allow a woman to slap me and get away with it. In general, it's completely disrespectful and I would have no reason to continue spending time with them.
/r/seduction12/03/13 10:20 AM
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This. There's a big difference between oneitis and forming a relationship. Oneitis is entirely one-sided, and usually not formed on any real basis. However, after spending time with a girl, particularly after you've slept with her, it's a pretty natural progression for you to start develop feelings for her if you have common interests and values.
/r/seduction12/03/13 10:18 AM
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I know what you mean, but there have definitely been situations where I was way too drunk to cope with the situation, be it gaming or driving home. Sometimes it hits you and you just know that you really shouldn't go down that path. I wouldn't treat it as a shit-test as much as I would just LMR. With LMR, I usually just retreat a bit but keep things sexual and then try to escalate again a bit later. Another effective strategy is to freeze her out. Once she puts up the LMR, just say "OK" and sugg…
/r/seduction12/03/13 10:16 AM
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Jesus Christ, he looks awful.
/r/seduction12/03/13 10:12 AM
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I don't understand exactly what you want. Do you want a relationship or just for the girl to stop acting so much like a girlfriend?
/r/seduction12/03/13 04:52 AM
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I was in a similar situation. I was out with a friend and a guy kept blowing up her phone. Sending her several texts in a row asking where she is, saying he wants to find her, etc... And I just told her to ignore him because he was being super needy and have fun with me. I don't see anything wrong with it.
/r/seduction12/03/13 04:49 AM
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I agree about dating other women. I've done it several times. Whenever it came up, I would be completely honest about the fact that I was seeing other people. Each time, I expected it to be a huge deal, but either they were okay with it, or they weren't. There wasn't any huge fight. Eventually it would lead to talking about making it exclusive, but I never assumed it was out of the gate.
/r/seduction12/03/13 01:27 AM
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It can be very hard to avoid the habit of asking interview questions, but it's not a deal-breaker. Once you have the answer, ask a more in-depth question. If you meet a girl at school and ask her major, then ask WHY she picked that major. If you talk about traveling, ask WHICH place was her favorite. Ask her HOW something made her feel. These will get her to open up more and give you more natural flowing conversation.
/r/seduction11/03/13 10:52 AM
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You know what the problem is, but the fix is not an overnight one. It takes a lot of that "lying to yourself" you talk about. But, we say "Fake it till you make it" for a reason. If you keep telling yourself that you have better things to do and that you're too busy to worry about the girl, eventually it'll become true. Another thing that helped me, particularly to keep me from texting a girl too much, was to have a "back up". Some close, female friend, that I was either not really interested or…
/r/seduction11/03/13 10:49 AM
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Well, if you don't do anything you won't get anywhere. You can't just stand around a bar expecting women to approach you and escalate themselves. Being aloof is mainly important when you aren't spending time with her or when she makes a request of you. If you're apart, you don't need to be texting her all the time or immediately after she texts you. You're a busy man. You have more important shit to do. Text her on your lunch break or after you finish work, but not during. No matter how slow or …
/r/seduction11/03/13 10:46 AM
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I shall strive not to.
/r/seduction11/03/13 04:23 AM
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I agree that words don't matter as much as people think, but they matter. Words are especially useless when it comes to opening. Think about it. Can you remember the first thing you said to anyone? No. It doesn't matter. All the important stuff comes later. The first important thing is just to approach. Afterwards, though, there are plenty of ways you can help or hurt yourself with yours words, not to mention your body language, etc... As for it being hard to make women laugh, if that's true for…
/r/seduction10/03/13 03:09 PM
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Get together with a friend and "re-cap" the weekend or whatever. I used to do this every Sunday with my best friend until I moved away. Whether you were out at the same places or spent the night apart, it's always fun to re-tell the story of the night before.
/r/seduction10/03/13 03:01 PM
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I'll keep this in mind. I'm in Korea, so I game in Korean a lot. Usually I do the whole "teach me Korean body parts" to initiate kino and escalate. The "tell me something naughty" routine sounds interesting.
/r/seduction10/03/13 02:18 PM
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The moral here about escalating as quickly as possible is so, so, so true. With the girl I'm currently dating, I escalated very quickly. We were kissing an hour or maybe 90 minutes after meeting. Not just once, but continuously. I tried to escalate to sex, by inviting her back to my place, but she declined by saying "I'm not going to have sex with you." Of course, I responded with "who said anything about sex? I'm not that easy!" and we ended up just making out more. We ended up F-closing on the…
/r/seduction10/03/13 08:18 AM
5

My favorite way to game foreign girls is to ask them to teach you some basic words. It doesn't matter if you speak the language at all. Ask them to teach you body words. Start with neutral stuff like arm, leg, etc... Then work on the hands. Ask more specific words for finger, thumb, nails, etc... and work your way to touching parts of her face and asking her what the words are. If you can hold a girl's hand and touch her face without making her uncomfortable, you're guaranteed a K-close at least…
/r/seduction27/02/13 05:46 AM
1

Just be honest from the get go. Tell them on the first date you're not really looking for a serious relationship. You just want to have fun and be single. Girls can take it or leave it. If they stick around hoping they'll get into a relationship with you later that's on them.
/r/seduction27/02/13 05:28 AM
2

Either a no response or simple "ok" will suffice. If she never gets back to you, that's a pretty big indication she's not interested. If she says she can't make it for whatever reason, it may or may not be legit. Wait a couple days and then hit her up again. Don't make any mention of not hanging out before. Just start a completely new conversation.
/r/seduction26/02/13 09:45 AM
2

The totally "ridiculous" openers are a thing I've been preaching. I see so many guys asking for how to open a set. It doesn't fucking matter. Say anything. It literally doesn't matter what you say. Most of the time my opener is "Hi!" You don't have to think up some super clever or smooth shit or compliment them or neg them. Just start talking.
/r/seduction26/02/13 09:30 AM
1

Exactly. You don't spill this shit on a first date. After a couple weeks and a couple fucks, I feel like I have a good idea about how much I want to see them and I tell them so. I always bring it up in a zero pressure kind of way. I don't really ask them to be my girlfriend or any of that middle school shit. I just tell them and they finish the sentence for me, pretty much.
/r/seduction26/02/13 12:00 AM
2

I mean, if he's talking shit about you, perhaps you aren't very close friends, but it still seems like an under-handed thing to do to sleep with a girl you know he's interested in. Is that really necessary? You can apparently sleep with any girl you want, so why go after one you know is going to make someone hate you for? There isn't any kind of need to prove anything to him, her, or yourself. Just take the high road.
/r/seduction25/02/13 02:44 PM
1

Prioritize. It's not impossible to juggle 5+ women, but it requires a lot of time and energy. I've got a job and social life. It's not like I can clear my schedule just to make time for women. Pick the hottest girls or the ones you have the best connection and just work on them. Fucking two girls is a lot better than gaming six and not fucking any of them.
/r/seduction25/02/13 02:35 PM
1

Agreed. I had a fuck buddy for about four months. I kept her at arm's length and only saw her once every two weeks to keep her from getting feels for me, but the last time I saw her, she started telling me that she was developing feelings for me and wanted to make what we had going on exclusive. Literally the next weekend, I met my current girlfriend, started a relationship a couple weeks later and told the FB that we couldn't meet anymore.
/r/seduction25/02/13 02:32 PM
1

I don't think you need to do anything different. I've gotten two girlfriend in the last year just using the stuff I've learned from seddit. The only difference is that when I make an exceptional connection with a girl, not just a physical one, but a deep, emotional one, I'm honest about it. Within the second or third time F-closing them, I'll start a conversation about what kind of relationship they're interested. Both times, they've both felt the same way as I did. Just be honest. If you like a…
/r/seduction25/02/13 02:30 PM
1

"Text game" is an oxymoron. There should be no gaming done in person. The only exception is after you've slept with a girl and you want to send her something sexual. Other than that, the only thing I'd use texts for is detail checking for the day 2. My current girlfriend, after I got her number and set up a day 2, I didn't text her for a week. And when I did, all I did was text her "I hope you're ready for the best first date ever" the day before, then re-confirm details. After that, we went out…
/r/seduction25/02/13 02:25 PM
2

I wouldn't worry about trying to "convert" these girls who have been friends into romantic interests. Just go out and meet new women. Use all of your hot friends as social proof. Get people out to a bar and invite some new girl. She'll be impressed when she sees you out with a bunch of hot chicks who're talking about how great you look.
/r/seduction25/02/13 02:14 PM
1

Methinks you have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/seduction22/02/13 07:29 AM
-2

Hence the scare quotes.
/r/seduction21/02/13 05:50 AM
1

I go into dates with the "I'm going to have fun" mindset. I don't worry about impressing them or how well things go. If things go badly, I can always end the date and just do something I want to do on my own and have fun there anyway. I just want to put out a high-energy, fun vibe. Just about every girl immediately picks up on it and loves it. It's intoxicating to be around people who are like this. They're having a great time and they make you want to have a great time, too.
/r/seduction21/02/13 05:50 AM
2

Get a job teaching English in Korea. I've been here for three years and love it. Head turningly beautiful girls on every street corner. Job itself isn't too bad, as long as you can deal with kids.
/r/seduction21/02/13 04:14 AM
-7

Honestly, why do you want the quiet girl? I used to be into the "quiet" girls because I was insecure. I was lonely and overweight and had no self-confidence. I think I was subconsciously attracted to these girls because I figured they were "easier" targets. Then I'd befriend them and shit would just go badly from there, but among other things, I realized I didn't really have much in common with these kind of girls. I'm an active guy. Now, I'm much more interested in the girls that go out and hav…
/r/seduction21/02/13 04:05 AM
2

"Whatever, she probably just wasn't interested." Looks like you answered your own question.
/r/seduction19/02/13 04:05 AM
1

Going to a massive dance party where a very good portion of the people are on drugs doesn't sound like a challenging environment to pick up in, if you ask me. Just run it like a normal club.
/r/seduction19/02/13 04:00 AM
1

Invite her to the concert sooner, rather than later. Don't want her to already have plans. Just say there's a concert you're going to that you think she'd like and tell her to tag along.
/r/seduction19/02/13 03:55 AM
1

Never kiss a woman on a first date unless it’s VERY obvious you’re going to quickly be having sex on the first date. Touch her sensually, but do not kiss. wat
/r/seduction19/02/13 03:51 AM
2

I'm really not. I lie to women all the time. I tell them I'm half-Korean and that I'm a dolphin trainer. You'd be surprised what women will believe.
/r/seduction18/02/13 02:00 PM
1

I'm a big fan of lying to girls with ridiculous stories. Sometimes I'll come clean later, but most of the time I just roll with the lie as long as possible.
/r/seduction18/02/13 03:52 AM
2

I'm an only child, though most people are surprised by this fact. They say I don't "act like an only child". Whatever that means. Anyway, I have only ever viewed it as having a positive effect on me. I did spend a lot of time on my own growing up, but I had friends, too. I just think it made me comfortable doing things alone and being independent.
/r/seduction18/02/13 03:31 AM
2

Living in South Korea, I'd say this is pretty on. I don't know how much learning a new language will help you out in America, but it certainly doesn't hurt. Gaining a new skill is always good, regardless. Gaming in a foreign language can be really hard, but also really rewarding.
/r/seduction18/02/13 03:28 AM
1

Sure, you're confident she'll call you, but you're being passive and that's not an attractive quality in a man. Take the lead.
/r/seduction17/02/13 07:50 AM
7

I enjoy watching it as well. Unless a guy is getting aggressive/handsy with her, there's no reason to be confrontational. Trust your girl. If you really want, go over and put your arm around her, give her a kiss, etc... then introduce yourself. Don't act like you're threatened. When socializing, you want to try not to spend all your time with her. Find someone you enjoy talking to and engage them in conversation. Let her go off and do her own thing. Whether it's your friends or hers, it's import…
/r/seduction17/02/13 07:34 AM
2

If it was an American girl, I'd say she probably wasn't very interested, but I'm not sure about your culture. Anyway, there's nothing to lose by adding her on Facebook. Just don't use it to game her. Use it to get her number and that's it. Also, when asking for a number, be more direct. Don't ask "would you mind" but just tell her "give me your number".
/r/seduction15/02/13 04:14 AM
1

It doesn't really matter, but sooner is better than later.
/r/seduction15/02/13 01:44 AM
3

Pretty much this. Set aside times for texting. Mine are during my lunch hour and then perhaps after 8 PM - 9 PM, once I've unwound a bit, had my dinner, and gotten time to relax. I don't really wanna be bouncing around texting people while I'm trying to cook dinner or catch up on reddit. If she texts you at any other times, just wait until you have the spare moment to reply.
/r/seduction14/02/13 10:10 AM
2

"May I have them?" Eeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuurgh. Biggest cringe possible.
/r/seduction14/02/13 10:07 AM
1

That stuff about the player image, it doesn't feel right because it's not congruent with the person you are on the inside, which makes it seem ingenuous to other people. There's a big difference between fake-it-till-you-make-it and just being an overbearing asshole. Strike the proper balance.
/r/seduction14/02/13 09:48 AM
2

I had one girl get all the way through on a bet for a round of drinks between us, so it was no biggie. I was just like "Wow. You're the first one to pass. High five."
/r/seduction14/02/13 09:44 AM
1

What's the point of asking for advice if you're not going to listen to it?
/r/seduction13/02/13 11:50 PM
2

Truth. No need to spend time agonizing over how to say hello. Just be straight forward. There's no reason to dance around the subject. No need to draw attention to the fact that you've been out of touch. Just a "hey, I'm gonna be around your area. We should hang out" is more than enough.
/r/seduction13/02/13 12:29 PM
1

What are we talking about here? OK Cupid and other similar dating sites or Facebook? I've gotten some good action out of OKC, but I'd avoid "gaming" on Facebook like the plague.
/r/seduction13/02/13 10:17 AM
6

Looks pretty textbook to me. I think the biggest thing to take away is that you didn't let the initial awkwardness around the first kiss deter you from pushing forward and continuing to escalate kino.
/r/seduction13/02/13 10:16 AM
24

"hey im gonna be visiting your college in about two weeks. lets meet up"
/r/seduction13/02/13 10:08 AM
4

No. Grow up.
/r/seduction13/02/13 10:07 AM
3

Doesn't sound too bad to me. I hope you got her number.
/r/seduction13/02/13 10:05 AM
1

As has been stated, using kino states your intentions quite clearly enough for any girl to understand. You can also state it directly, but actions speak louder than words. Put your hands on her body. Move her around. Hold her hands. Pull her close to you. Things will move themselves forward.
/r/seduction12/02/13 10:17 AM
1

I'd recommend trying to find groups of clubs to join. This should be especially easy if you're still in school. I, myself, will be moving to a new city for a new job. I plan on using Meetup.com to try and find some people I can hang out with besides just my co-workers and establish a new social circle right away. See if there's anything in your city that looks interesting. Either way, getting into some kind of activity automatically guarantees that the people you're around will share some common…
/r/seduction12/02/13 10:11 AM
6

I do this a lot when I go out. I love seeing girls' eyes pop open when they have that "Oh my god, did he really just say that?" moment. And you better believe I don't apologize for any bit of it.
/r/seduction12/02/13 04:04 AM
1

As far as I can, without overstepping appropriate bounds. I don't see anything wrong with being flirtatious and getting numbers, but I'd never go out on dates with anyone while I was in a relationship.
/r/seduction11/02/13 01:50 PM
1

I love Indian food, and I have a very strong stomach. At first, I attributed my stomach problems to the whisky I'd been drinking, but when it was still bothering me the next day, I figured it was probably the food. I think it was just under cooked chicken.
/r/seduction11/02/13 01:49 PM
9

Just about anything other than dinner in a restaurant or coffee. These are just boring as hell. I love going out to see live music as a first date. It takes a lot of pressure off you to make bullshit "get to know you" conversation because you have something to enjoy, rather than just each other's company. Anything outside is good because it removes the boundaries that most indoor settings have against kino. Do something you have experience in. Be able to know the best place to go. It's not just …
/r/seduction11/02/13 09:00 AM
2

Self-irony? The fuck?
/r/seduction08/02/13 05:49 AM
3

Two steps. Let them know you don't want a relationship in no uncertain terms. Tell they're you just want to be "casual", that you "enjoy being single", etc... This can cause some girls to decide against going further with you, but if that's the case, it never would've worked out well with them in the first place, so it's best that you've avoided the drama. Some girls will continue on with you in spite of what you say because they like you so much. In that case, it's your responsibility to recogn…
/r/seduction08/02/13 05:43 AM
2

Engaging in relationships at work is usually pretty ill-advised. Doing it with a boss? Big no-no.
/r/seduction07/02/13 10:18 AM
3

While I agree that flakes can be really frustrating and it's not worth your time to spend a lot of time agonizing over whether or not a girl will show, your response wasn't really good, either. You come off as super defensive. Not the best way to come off when you've only met a girl one time, because it shows an inappropriate amount of attachment. When a girl cancels, all you have to do is say "ok" and move on. Don't try to lecture her. If she re-schedules later, or you let her sit on a back bur…
/r/seduction07/02/13 04:20 AM
1

It's really best not go go into it with a huge "plan". Nine times of out ten, the conversation won't end up anything like the script you've planned out in your head. You can go up with an outline of things you want to do, e.g. open directly/indirectly, remember to kino, etc... but planning out specific lines will just put you into a bad situation for when she doesn't react as planned, and you're left hanging there trying to figure out what to say like a chump. Game should be about being fluid an…
/r/seduction06/02/13 04:10 AM
2

I'm living in Korea. Gaming in Korean is a lot of fun. I have a lot of jokes I kind of fall back on, but a lot of it is just "mishearing" them and saying a different word that sounds similar. Playing dumb is pretty fun. I've picked up five Korean girls in the past two years. Two spoke English well, but the other three pretty much not at all. It was interesting gaming completely in a different language. Certainly a sense of accomplishment. One of my favorite things to do with girls is have them t…
/r/seduction06/02/13 04:07 AM
0

I've been out plenty and seen enough drinks thrown to know it just makes you look cheap. It's the same as starting a fight in a bar. If you hit on a guy's girl and he throws a punch, do people think he's justified or cool? No, they think he's an asshole. The same goes for throwing a drink.
/r/seduction05/02/13 04:05 PM
1

Haha, you flatter me.
/r/seduction05/02/13 09:40 AM
-4

There's never a reason to throw a drink on someone. Shit is so unclassy.
/r/seduction05/02/13 09:39 AM
1

In 2010, I started to lose weight. By 2011, I was getting more attention from girls, and I continued to lose even more weight. During 2011, I got laid more than I ever thought I would in my life, but it was always was the result of "getting lucky". The quality of most of the girls weren't that good, though I did get a couple real good looking ones, and it was always a "right place, right time" kind of deal. Often the girls would approach me and then I would just not fuck it up badly enough that …
/r/seduction04/02/13 10:45 AM
1

When you text her, don't start with some "hey" or "what's up" bullshit. Just start your own conversation. Start with an inside joke from when you met. Re-enforces comfort. Don't waste a lot of time beating around the bush. If you have something fun planned e.g. concert, party, etc... invite her to that. Otherwise invite her to get drinks with you. Don't do coffee or dinner. That shit is rookie.
/r/seduction04/02/13 09:58 AM
2

Well, if they're American, it shouldn't be any different from any other group of girls. Foreign girls represent a different challenge. They're probably interested in meeting Americans since they're traveling there, so they will be less likely to blow you out completely, but the cultures are real different. I'd still just approach them as a group and just act friendly for awhile before isolating a target.
/r/seduction04/02/13 04:18 AM
1

Asian women in America or in a foreign country?
/r/seduction04/02/13 03:50 AM
2

Anyone telling you to back down or cancel one is an idiot. There's no reason. Techniq knows what the fuck he's talking about. I've gone out and invited three or four girls who I was working game on. Inviting girls out to meet you when you're with friends is a good way to show social proof and DHV, but inviting them out when you're surrounded by girls? It's through the roof. Also, like he said, there's been a lot of material on "pre-selection" lately. The best way to attract a woman is to be a ma…
/r/seduction03/02/13 07:48 AM
2

Try practice active listening. To some degree you can "parrot" what she says. If she says she went to Paris for vacation -- "Oh, you went to Paris? What was your favorite thing?" Repeat something she said in the form of a question, then ask a related question. It forces you to really pay attention to what she's saying, rather than just going "uh huh" every minute or two. It'll also build comfort with her, because you're taking an active interest in what she has to say about her experiences.
/r/seduction01/02/13 03:52 AM
2

Criiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinge.
/r/seduction31/01/13 03:08 PM
1

It's all about calibrating how open she is to it and then escalating accordingly. On my past date last weekend, I started with very light stuff. A hug and kiss on the cheek when we met (first time ever), light arm touching and letting my knees "accidentally" bump hers under the table. Her not pulling away was a big green light. The second came when we were walking and she slipped her arm in mine. After that, I stepped it up. Hands on the legs, hand holding, arm around the back to pull her closer…
/r/seduction31/01/13 09:53 AM
1

When people tell you "just don't care" or "ignore it", it's solid advice, but it's easier said than done. What I've found that works for me is to remove yourself from whatever is bringing you down. If you're in a bar and the chick is chatting up another guy and you start to lose state, go to the opposite end of the bar and just dance, strike up a conversation, whatever you need to do to get your mind off of it. A lot of times when I'm dancing, I just close my eyes and groove and I feel a lot bet…
/r/seduction30/01/13 03:13 PM
1

There's a pretty huge difference between a phone conversation and interacting face-to-face.
/r/seduction30/01/13 04:09 AM
21

Some of my favorites: What is something you find unattractive/attractive most people find attractive/unattractive? What is something you've never done that everyone else has? What is something you like/dislike that everyone else dislikes/likes? If every girl in the world looked like you, how would you stand out? Basically, I want the girl to tell me how she's different from any other people I met.
/r/seduction30/01/13 04:07 AM
1

Just move on. If she texts you, answer, but there's no real reason to waste on this one at this time. If she does move to your area, you can start working on her then.
/r/seduction29/01/13 10:07 AM
3

When I was an AFC, I would get super attached and pine over girls. When the inevitable rejection came, I'd be crushed... Until I found a new girl to like. Then the vicious cycle would start all over. The only thing that's changed between then and now is that I've become much less attached to women. If a girl rejects me, I just move on to another girl. Once you're working with abundance, the pain of rejection is pretty minimal.
/r/seduction29/01/13 10:04 AM
22

Grow an attention span and read it.
/r/seduction28/01/13 04:05 AM
22

It's called pre-selection. There's lots of videos about this exact subject.
/r/seduction28/01/13 03:59 AM
1

I've run into a couple girls I know from around town on OKC. Met several more on OKC in my city I'd never met before. Seems pretty popular.
/r/seduction28/01/13 03:34 AM
1

The only time she verbally said no was when she said she wasn't going to a love motel with me. When we were in the DVD room, I would try to escalate by moving my hands downstairs, and she would either move my hand back to her breasts or just stop kissing my all together. In the first case, I'd just stick with it at that level for awhile and try again later. In the second case, I'd just sit back and watch the movie, then 10 minutes later, she'd start kissing me again and I'd dry again.
/r/seduction28/01/13 03:32 AM
1

There have been conversations, yes. Some people feel as you do. I think for beginners it's important to do as many approaches in person as possible, without relying on online tools to meet women. However, I am not a beginner. OKC is just another tool at my disposal.
/r/seduction28/01/13 12:48 AM
2

I don't plan on going back any time soon, but yeah. Whenever I travel to other places like Thailand or Vietnam, where shit closes at 1 AM, it's strange. Gotta go to the illegal bars which are real sketchy sometimes.
/r/seduction27/01/13 03:39 PM
2

I know, right? I'm used to last call at 1 AM. Here, places don't close until the sun comes up. And even then, if you know the owner, he'll come back and open it again at 9 AM so you can keep going.
/r/seduction27/01/13 03:27 PM
5

Honestly, I re-read it and get a big grin just thinking about it.
/r/seduction27/01/13 12:52 PM
2

You're 18 years old. Calm the fuck down.
/r/seduction25/01/13 04:13 AM
2

While there's always a chance they're full of shit, chances are greater that they've spent 5-10+ years doing pick up. The reason that their style that they use to pick up women won't work for you is because you're not them. You need to be congruent with who you are. If the message you're putting out and the person you are on the inside don't match, the game isn't gonna work for you.
/r/seduction25/01/13 03:57 AM
-3

this isn't r/sex Well there's your answer.
/r/seduction25/01/13 03:53 AM
3

Texting all day Friday is a rookie mistake. You feel the need to keep her interest in you high. You're afraid if you're not interacting with her in some way that she'll forget about you. You need to have more confidence in yourself than that. Over-texting is a one way ticket to the friendzone. Still, don't put too much thought into a girl not texting you first. They never do. I've been in a fuck buddy relationship since October and the girl has never once texted me first. We'll generally meet, f…
/r/seduction24/01/13 10:04 AM
1

I know ever kennel is different. In Asia, though, it tends to be either military or old guys with young girlfriend. It's creepy. And by high school, I mean they laugh at their own jokes, compete for attention, talk over each other, get way too fucked up, etc... by the end of Circle, it's just 30 people yelling at each other to shut the fuck up. When I first started, it was a much better environment, but a lot of people left and the new people suck.
/r/seduction24/01/13 12:08 AM
1

I used to be a Hasher. Perhaps because most of the kennels in Korea are military based I feel this way. Unfortunately, Hashers don't really have very finely developed social skills. Honestly, a lot of them act like they're still in high school. Yes, Hariettes are easy, and I did get laid pretty easily when I first started Hashing, but it's a bit less attractive when you realize they pretty much just sleep with anyone, and they've probably slept with a lot of the other 20+ dudes in the bar.
/r/seduction23/01/13 10:32 AM
36

I think it all boils down to respect. If she does or say something that seriously disrespects you as a person, it warrants some kind of reaction. It doesn't necessarily have to be a verbal or overt reaction, but a reaction nonetheless. I'll give a couple for instances. Several months ago, I was talking to a female friend in the bar. Her female friend came up and immediately asked me to buy them "shooters". I laughed it off and suggested she buy me one instead. After feigning interest for 30 seco…
/r/seduction23/01/13 10:28 AM
1

Don't worry about what you open with. It literally doesn't matter. My go to opener? "Hi!" There's nothing wrong with that. Just put on a smile and go in with confidence. There may be some girls out there with huge bitch shields up that will immediately shoot you down, but just about everyone can appreciate a warm hello.
/r/seduction22/01/13 08:37 AM
17

I'm living in Korea, and this is something I recommend to any guy living in a foreign country. Whether or not you speak the language doesn't matter. After you've got your date schedule, do your dinner, bar, walk, etc... or whatever you have planned, but at some point when you're sitting down -- next to each other! -- ask her to teach you some of her language. And what do you want to learn? Body parts! Grab her hand and ask her the names of each finger, the fingernail, palm, wrist, etc... and the…
/r/seduction22/01/13 08:35 AM
7

A girl being forward doesn't mean she's crazy.
/r/seduction21/01/13 05:52 AM
11

They're doing all the work. Just ask them to go out when you get off your shift.
/r/seduction21/01/13 04:11 AM
2

Urf. That whole thing is cringe worthy. Especially the "let's just forget this" message. It's so snarky and butthurt. Other people have already said it, but if a girl wants to change the time and you feel it's not worth it, just say you can't do it. Either she'll change her mind or you won't meet. No need to get defensive. Also, after her initial "just friends" novel she sent you, the only response needs to be "ok". And then stop talking to her. Having some huge debate about it just makes you se…
/r/seduction20/01/13 01:35 PM
3

Well, you're not going to meet your next girlfriend sitting at home playing Call of Duty. You don't want to chase chicks forever, but to get one in the first place, a certain amount of chasing is required.
/r/seduction20/01/13 12:35 PM
1

"WHAT?"
/r/seduction19/01/13 04:56 AM
1

This was actually in my area -- Cheonan.
/r/seduction18/01/13 09:33 AM
10

When you go for a kiss, slide your hand up the back of her neck and grab the roots of her hair and pull her head back. Shit gets panties soaking.
/r/seduction18/01/13 05:08 AM
5

It's not as if it's something I actively attempt to do. However, there have been times it just hasn't even happened. Most recently, I was at a club. A girl physically grabbed me and started dirty dancing with me. A minute or two later, we're kissing. She bought me a couple drinks and after half an hour, we were in a taxi back to her place. From the get go, the tone was extremely sexual. To suddenly take a step back and ask "Oh, sorry, what was your name again?" would've ruined the rhythm. It hon…
/r/seduction17/01/13 02:32 PM
9

It's pretty rare that a girl will text you first, unless you created through the roof attraction when you first met. It's just natural. Women are meant to be chased, and men are meant to do the chasing. Obviously, if she never returns messages, you should stop wasting time and energy on her, because it only makes you look worse and worse.
/r/seduction17/01/13 10:27 AM
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I've slept with two girls without knowing their names. Also tons of make outs. It's pretty fun. I kinda feel like it's an accomplishment to hook up with a girl without knowing her name. Also, you don't have to feel bad about a ONS if she asks you to leave. Maybe she just honestly doesn't want you there, and it could be for any variety of reasons.
/r/seduction17/01/13 10:25 AM
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I think you're over-thinking it a bit. It's normal for people to need some time to recover after a break up. That doesn't mean you should be the shoulder there for her to cry on. I'd suggest telling her that you are interested in her as more than friends, but if she's not ready for it, she should take some time to herself to sort her shit out. After that, radio silence. If you see her around, obviously act friendly, but at this point texting her is not going to help you at all.
/r/seduction16/01/13 11:28 AM
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I think this is probably my biggest problem, honestly. Some people are saying I have "false confidence" but that's not the case. I realized last year that my life was going the opposite direction of everyone else I knew from high school and college. I'm living abroad, financially independent, paying back my loans, traveling, I've lost a ton of weight and look the best I ever have, I've gotten laid more in the past two years than I ever thought imaginable. This is the best my life has ever been a…
/r/seduction16/01/13 12:12 AM
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I don't really brag much. I would never say something like "I'm the best/most etc..." unless it was pretty clear I was joking. The only time I can think of that I said something along those lines was when I was chatting with some friends over coffee and said that after teaching kids, I thought I'd make a "great dad", which prompted a "big ego" comment. I didn't really think it was deserved. Another specific example I remember is when I was discussing a girl I went on a couple dates with. I state…
/r/seduction15/01/13 11:52 PM
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Everybody in Germany speaks English anyway.
/r/seduction15/01/13 09:46 AM
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I'm an American living in Korea for about three years. At this point, I speak Korean pretty goddamn well, but I still like to pretend I don't, at least when I first meet someone. I like to take a girl out for some drinks and then ask her to teach me Korean, and suggest starting with body parts. You can start with their hand and ask them the name for each finger, the palm, knuckles, fingernails, etc... Then move on to other body parts, like arms, legs, etc... and eventually work your way up to th…
/r/seduction15/01/13 09:45 AM
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I live in Korea and I have the same problem. They've got a seriously hyperactive stranger danger thing going on here.
/r/seduction15/01/13 09:37 AM
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I just remembered something really funny. At some point, some good looking Army guy was texting her, asking where she was to meet up. At first she was telling him the name of the bar -- Exit Bar, but he didn't understand and kept asking "Which exit?" He was super fucking needy though. In the span of five minutes he texted "Where are you?" over and over. This was right in the middle of my "I'm not a loser anymore, let's go out," deal. So I just said, "Don't tell him where you are. This guy is a l…
/r/seduction13/01/13 12:52 PM
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Um, it is kind of important. While it's true that what you say doesn't really matter, when you post an FR, you're essentially asking for constructive criticism. We can't really do that if we don't know what you're saying.
/r/seduction12/01/13 05:58 AM
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Girls enjoy following strong men. By expecting to get the number and holding tension, you display your dominant presence and spark attraction. I think this is the strongest point to take away from this. I've never really had trouble getting numbers, though it's mostly from night game, which I find incredibly easy. The same sentiment is applicable to any compliance test you give a girl. "Come here." "Let's go over here." "Let's get a drink." "Let's go back to my place." Several months ago, I set …
/r/seduction08/01/13 02:46 PM
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Fuck that's genius. I'm not really into "routines" but this is gold.
/r/seduction07/01/13 10:54 AM
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