Blue Pill/Womans advice makes far more sense if you imply 1 point.

Fit-Entrepreneur8404 · 2026-06-21T19:39:12+00:00

I think its simpler than that, I think that most blue pill/woman's advice is simply directed at the wrong question. Men ask "how do i get a girlfriend?" and women actually answer the question "how do I be a good boyfriend?" These two questions, while similar on their face, come from two entirely different perspectives. Women just don't have the male experience of the endless sea of rejections that have to be persevered through to try to find someone willing to even give you the time of day to show them thay you can be a good boyfriend. Basically all of their advice skips this seemingly small but extremely important step in dating because they're on the other end of it 99% of the time so they dont see the work it took to get to thay point. Ive found that personally a fair bit of the PUA/RP advice is pretty solid for answering the actual question that men are asking, but if you dont also compliment that advice with the BP/womans advice for once youre past the threshold of having someone to date and you just listen to the RP advice for everything then your relationships are not going to last long.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2026-06-22T14:12:12+00:00

This topic has been discussed to death but once again-

Women will respond with advice on what things will make someone a more attractive prospect to them, but the men here don’t want ti hear if because it automatically excludes them from being a potential partner for her.

Realistically: its Not that they wanted a gf anyways. They just wanted to get laid.

And big surprise, most women who aren’t looking to fuck a random stranger, don’t have much palpable advice on how to get strange.

NoDanaOnlyZuuI · 2026-06-21T20:41:17+00:00

You’re doing exactly what you’re accusing other people of doing.

You say Blue Pill people assume men’s dating experiences are the same as women’s. Then in the next breath you assume women’s dating experiences are so easy that any woman who struggles must have something fundamentally wrong with her.

That’s not reality either.

There are women who struggle because they’re shy, socially isolated, unattractive, disabled, older, living in small towns, have unrealistic standards, have poor relationship skills, or simply haven’t met compatible people. Just like men.

The bigger issue is that people keep trying to force every dating outcome into a gender theory.

Sometimes a man struggles because of his choices. Sometimes it’s his circumstances. Sometimes it’s bad luck. The same is true for women.

And the irony is that if your explanation for every disagreement is “they secretly don’t believe men and women are different,” you’ve created an unfalsifiable theory. Anyone who disagrees with you automatically becomes proof that your theory is correct.

That’s not evidence.

Feeling_Ad_1034 · 2026-06-21T19:40:15+00:00

No, a woman who is not physically attractive will absolutely struggle in dating. The bar may be lower but there is still a bar.

-mixedsignals · 2026-06-21T20:28:49+00:00

Did you know that only a specific group of men receive the "you must be psychologically damaged" advice from women

Some men get the "you'll find someone eventually (numbers game)" others get the "clean yourself up and do something about that hair" other men get the "go to therapy"

Maybe there's a reason this specific group of men get this very specific advice, no?

AmandaPea · 2026-06-21T20:19:49+00:00

I'm not entirely sure what you're saying here. I don't think it's a common thing to assume people are mentally ill because they can't find a date. I mean, I've seen people suggest incels/ blackpillers seek therapy to deal with their self-esteem and body dysmorphia issues. But that's just practical. Wouldn't RP advise the same?

Yes. Men & women experience different issues in dating and relationships. Who would disagree?

Also not sure why you roped in that book about female mate choice. If by "pure rewrite of RP stuff" you're referring to the countless manosphere & RW men crying the sky is falling because women have basic rights now, then okay.

Tho it's hard to miss the irony in the fact that dating would be easier for these types, if only they were less sexist. And actually, that is women's #1 problem with dating today, too many misogynists running amok. It's a minefield.

Anyway. Thanks for the book suggestion

alotofironsinthefire · 2026-06-21T21:33:35+00:00

Blue pill sees the end goal of dating as looking for a long term partner to build a long term relationship with.

Red pill see a end of goal of dating as getting laid as fast as possible.

That's pretty much the difference

BusinessZestyclose86 · 2026-06-21T22:16:54+00:00

This would make sense if bluepill men didn’t say the same thing.

Outside_Memory5703 · 2026-06-21T19:53:46+00:00

I assure you that everyone knows that men are way thirstier than women

Downtown_Cat_1745 · 2026-06-21T20:18:32+00:00

I disagree. I think that conventional dating advice suggests that being with the right person will make both of you happy. Redpill suggests that dating is a zero sum game where one person’s happiness comes at the expense of the other’s, and you should maximize your chances of being the happier party.

As a person in a happy marriage, it doesn’t ring true for me

baller696969balls · 2026-06-21T22:10:13+00:00

You’re partially right. Men and women give advice to one another, tailored to their own beliefs and gendered perspectives.

Which is why your whole speculation about women struggling with dating needing to involve mental disorders or unrealistic ideations is simply incorrect. Women who actually struggle with getting a partner tend to be socially awkward and shy, or have deep issues with the way men perceive them. These are mental struggles, but certainly not indicative of psychological instability. Take this thought from a woman, maybe?

I’d say women with quite intense mental disorders tend to be pretty good at getting dates, given a lot of mental disorders are characterised by impulsivity and heightened self-confidence. A lot of mental disorders also involve a mixed sense of self-esteem, meaning people with them may continuously seek validation. And women with unrealistic standards are usually quite confident as well, most women I see who think of themselves quite highly and have specific requirements for a boyfriend, are able to find their person pretty easily when they put themselves out there.

wouldbepandananny · 2026-06-21T23:51:02+00:00

I think it's more that women can accept that we aren't everyone's cup of tea, and if I struggle to date, the reasons are likely to be varied.

Then, there are a few very specific pockets of dudes- mostly having the common thread of disliking or disrespecting women, believing them to be inferior, and therefore their experiences and feelings less valid, relevant, important. But these groups have different strategies- some try a self-improvement kick, but only focusing on physical attributes; others try the "pick-up artist" nonsense, others try the negging and bullying, sometimes with or without the incel designation.

RelativeYak7 · 2026-06-22T02:37:29+00:00

Blue pill women give that advice because women don't like liars or pump and dumpers. Men can just fake wanting a relationship to get sex so it would be simpler for women if all those sex seekers were just dead honest making them easier to avoid.

howdoiw0rkthisthing · 2026-06-21T20:39:03+00:00

It all comes down to this:

What’s easier, to change something about yourself, or to fundamentally change human nature, society, biology etc.?

It might feel good if someone responds to your difficulty getting a date with “it’s not your fault, we should upend society so that you can get a date” but it’s not going to happen overnight and therefore won’t help you. “Maybe you should try x, y, or z” probably feels shitty and frustrating but it might at least get you somewhere.

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Lenovo_Driver · 2026-06-22T01:54:10+00:00

So basically, you’ve made shit up and declared the shit that you’ve made up to be the sentiments and beliefs of blue pillers.

The Blue Pill has no set of teachings or beliefs, it doesn’t even exist other than in spaces like this where it is simply a conscientious rejection of the red pill.

In society where people are just living their lives, no one gives a shit about which internet pill people are consuming nor do they adhere to any set of beliefs when it comes to dating other than what they see with their eyes.

Here are the facts, if a man struggles with dating the first thing a person will consider is what they look like and if they’re not hideously ugly then the next question will be what their personality is like. Past that point the vast majority of people don’t give a shit because why would they? They have their own mental tolls to deal with and there’s not benefit to wasting time on others for problems that are utterly menial to them.

The reason why so many men hate what blue pillers tell them compared to the red pill is that the blue pill keeps the ball in the court of the man as an issue that the man needs to fix, where as the red pill feeds the man bullshit so he can find whichever external excuse he likes to blame - the only thing that matters in that case is that it’s not him at fault. The red pill has grown ass men believing that 4 billion women are at fault for them not being able to get a partner and not just themselves.

Sensitive_Housing_85 · 2026-06-21T20:53:23+00:00

I’m not blue-pilled, but even when women can’t find a partner, I don’t think there’s some deep underlying reason. Maybe they just don’t put themselves out there, but I don’t believe it’s due to emotional instability or an ideological issue. For some, it might come down to looks , , but I don’t really buy that either, since men have a wide range of preferences when it comes to who they date or sleep with. I feel the same way about men who struggle to find a partner , sometimes things just don’t work out, and you can’t always get everything you want, especially when it comes to love, and they should accept that there is a possibility they will single, this applies more to men because men are socially expected to approach women so they rarely get attention from women in general as for women that dont, they are screwed because they dont even know how to initaite , i would argue if they did , that might increase their odds thou

SNTriad · 2026-06-21T19:31:47+00:00

It's bad advice either way and not practical at all.

theringsofthedragon · 2026-06-22T17:21:19+00:00

Or... You do experience dating the same and you're just in denial about your mental, emotional and physical problems. This is the number one reason why nobody is going to have sympathy for men's "dating troubles". You protect your ego so hard by saying "actually, my problems aren't like women's problems, I have more special problems, more important problems, you see, dating is harder for men, it's not me, I talked to all the other delusional men who struggle with dating and don't want to admit something's wrong with them, we all agree that it's not us, but it's just harder for all men".

Bro the math ain't mathing. There are about as many men and women on earth, and almost everyone believes that a relationship is a couple between 2 people. It is literally not harder for men.

Title	Blue Pill/Womans advice makes far more sense if you imply 1 point.
Author	Ok_Cook_3098
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Date	June 21, 2026 7:28 PM UTC (4 weeks ago)
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