Lena Dunham kissing, masturbating next to, and "experimenting" with the vagina of her little sister is not sexual abuse, but drunk sex is rape.

JohnPeel · 2014-11-03T19:28:55+00:00

"As a queer person: i'm committed to people narrating their own experiences, determining for themselves what has and has not been harmful"

Sorry, but I don't think it works like that.

Algermas · 2014-11-03T19:55:32+00:00

Please remember it's only a sex crime if it's perpetrated by a man, if you don't have a Y chromosome you can't commit a sex crime. This is the female doctrine, always has been always will be.

tepper2 · 2014-11-03T19:43:44+00:00

I told a story about being a weird 7 year old. I bet you have some too, old men, that I'd rather not hear.

It's ok because creepy old men have probably done it.

Lena Dunham molested her little sister. I hope this becomes a meme or something.

14:57, 14:58, 14:59...

Echelon64 · 2014-11-03T20:14:24+00:00

So this woman sexually abused her own sister, in her own words, but it's okay because she's allowed to dictate what isn't abuse?

Holy fucking hell what is wrong with these people?

Jaereth · 2014-11-04T00:19:42+00:00

When she was 7? Ok, little first graders do explore sexual things and do weird shit sometimes.

When she was 17? She's a fucking psychopath. When I was 17 I was trying to get girls in the back seat of my car. I wasn't at home jacking off next to 10 year olds. At 17 you know god damn well that's a fucked up thing to do.

kick6 · 2014-11-03T20:03:28+00:00

I told a story about being a weird 7 year old. I bet you have some too, old men, that I'd rather not hear. And yes, this is a rage spiral.

You know, Lena, you're probably right. So you know what we old men did? We decided not to put them in a fucking book of memoirs, and release it to the public.

What a dipshit.

Killigraphy · 2014-11-03T21:55:01+00:00

This is doubly hilarious when you take into account what some women consider "harassment" thanks to that girl walking for 10 hours video...I can only imagine what; spreading your relative's vagina and bribing her with candy constitutes as?

Oh that's right, fucking molestation.

-Strider · 2014-11-03T21:43:32+00:00

The amount of people defending this on /r/Askwomen is disgusting. Apparently it's ok because her sister says so. I guess Ray Rice is ok now since his wife says so, right? I guess long term domestic abusers are ok because their wives say so? Nope, didn't think so.

reddiforlove · 2014-11-03T19:42:40+00:00

What's hilarious to me is the hamsters trying to spin this as "curious exploration."

If she wanted to see what a naked girl looked like, she could have looked in a mirror.

flexiblehold · 2014-11-03T19:59:34+00:00

Sorry, gross naked chick (who I honestly think has serious writing talent), you can't have it both ways: if you think drunken sex that you later regret is rape, playing around with your little sister's pussy is not only molestation (at the least), but is probably something far worse.

reedrichardsstretch · 2014-11-03T19:39:04+00:00

Looking /= touching. What Lena describes is classic child molestation if I ever heard it described. If she were a man/boy, should be on a registry and ostricized for life.

I didn't think she could get more disgusting, but she just did.

Konwayz · 2014-11-03T22:13:25+00:00

I can't help but wonder: Did the sexual abuse really stop at 17? Or was she only stupid enough to admit to the abuses she perpetrated prior to reaching the official age of adulthood?

Seems awfully convenient. A little too convenient, even.

Chaohinon · 2014-11-03T22:09:00+00:00

As a male victim of molestation, shit like this actually gives me a glimmer of hope. Once feminism has dug itself a deep enough hole, both women and men who've actually experienced what it's like to be forcefully violated are going to start to get pissed about being trivialized and politicized like this. I foresee a mutiny brewing in the ranks.

AngraMainyuu · 2014-11-03T22:59:29+00:00

This line really fucked her over, from her own book:

As she grew, I took to bribing her for her time and affection: one dollar in quarters if I could do her makeup like a “motorcycle chick.” Three pieces of candy if I could kiss her on the lips for five seconds. Whatever she wanted to watch on TV if she would just “relax on me.” Basically, anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl I was trying.

favours_of_the_moon · 2014-11-03T20:13:41+00:00

Looking at a girl wrong on the bus is rape.

Unless you're a woman. Or whatever Lena Dunham is.

masturbator9000 · 2014-11-03T22:47:07+00:00

May I remind you guys of this here: http://www.takepart.com/article/2011/11/29/6-year-old-boy-charged-felony-sexual-assault

Basically the same exact story. 6 year old plays doctor and has to register as a sex offender at the age of 7.

And that monster Dunham basically asks us to understand her and to sympathize with her?

iluminatiNYC · 2014-11-03T22:09:32+00:00

Um, yeah...

I will say this. Lena Dunham deserves an award for the sheer chutzpah she's displaying. Wait...you write in your book that you molested your sister repeatedly for years, and you're not supposed to be charged with anything?

I think her hamster could replace the engine in SpaceShip Two. Virgin Galatic would be cleared to fly. LOL

GayLubeOil · 2014-11-04T02:07:41+00:00

Honest question: How did Leena Dunham's white patriarchal corporate overlords allow her to publish that?

flexiblehold · 2014-11-04T03:29:43+00:00

The reason you won't see men writing this kind of shit in their auto-bios is because they innately know they'd be branded molesters, and honestly, rightly so.

I understand that children who do awful things are not the same as adults who know better, but an awful act is still an awful act. If LD could at least acknowledge that what she did was hideous, that would deserve respect.

E.g., let's say you used to bully or beat the shit out of some kid when you were 8-years old -- if at 28 you laugh it off like it was "kids being kids," that compounds the moral error and lends legitimacy to the notion that you maybe are a complete piece of shit.

kingofcrob · 2014-11-03T23:08:52+00:00

who ever thought the writer of a show who characters are all horrible people is pretty much a horrible person

michaelknox3 · 2014-11-04T00:35:00+00:00

Just another example of the feminists being able to twist whatever facts they want to make any argument they want.

"Gamergate is entirely about misogyny"

"Belle Knox is an empowered feminist porn star"

Which one is it goddamn it??? Well it's whatever feminists say it is!

MelodyMyst · 2014-11-04T01:40:59+00:00

So, if it was Lenny Dunham prying his sisters vag open, bribing her with candy to kiss her, and playing with his dick next to her in bed this would be an open and shut case.

It is amazing the mental gymnastics the modern liberal has to do, all day everyday, to be able to defend their position.... I would be fucking exhausted.

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iluminatiNYC · 2014-11-04T07:21:53+00:00

Reddit's reaction to this has been pretty incredible, in some of the other posts the degree of normalization and dismissal of her behavior is insane. Like "oh kids play doctor, its normal".

It's like if they found out a serial killer killed cats as a child, they would say "Oh that's normal, I squished roaches and bugs as a child to watch what would happen."

I don't really care if she's an abusive psychopath or just someone who was fucked in the head as a result of having liberal artistic excuses for parents (the latter is my belief, her parents sound like terrible people). But the way her fans talk down the issue is very disturbing. If I had a daughter and one of her older friends, maybe a babysitter, did this, I'd be hardpressed not to try to kill the bitch. You wouldn't expect a 7 year old to open the vagina and shove pebbles inside to a girl she hates, let along her baby sister. Nevermind the weirdest part - jerking off as a 17 year old in the same bed next to your sister's "sticky" body. At 17 years, that's more fucked up in my mind.

If you were a parent and your 17 year old child was masturbating in front of your innocently perplexed 10 year old, you'd disown or at least severely punish the older person. It's just mindblowing.

Not to mention how she just airs this for the public to read, not realizing said sister probably didn't want this to be the subject for discussion at her school / workplace. See, Dunham unfortunately is usually fairly savvy, so she wouldn't have included this unless she felt that it achieved some purpose. Maybe she figured it would make her seem edgy or ignite some controversy that would push sales for her shitty hamster-fuel book.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-11-03T22:21:20+00:00

Lest we forget, this is one of the women who tipped the election last cycle crying about the War on Women. Sandra Fluke had her free contraceptives and all her classmates crying because they had to pay for something. Who could forget Dunham's vote for Obama video: "My first time" in which Dunham compares Obama to her first lover and how voting for him was like getting her cherry popped. You go girl.

So is voting for Hillary like popping your sister's cherry? Maybe Dunahm can do an ad on that next time.

deville05 · 2014-11-03T20:40:04+00:00

Im not reading this crap, but how old were they both?. It totally depends on that. I think if someone knows what taking advantage is, what molestation is etc and then does it, its molestation. If yr too young to have more curiosity than sense because you are trying to oretend to be adults n do what they do, its exploration.

Transmigratory · 2014-11-03T21:08:13+00:00

Double Standards: Lena Dumbam Edition.

red_pill_throw_away · 2014-11-03T23:04:43+00:00

Bright colored hair? check

Crazy feminist? check

That previous post correlating colored hair and craziness is ringing in my ears. Especially since I started recollecting every woman I knew with colored hair.

Reich_Winger · 2014-11-03T23:10:09+00:00

Do the classic gender switch-a-roo in this instance. Picture a famous male writer/director writing a book where he includes molesting his little sister multiple times and actually self-describes it as "something a sexual predator would do". How would society be responding right now?

This shit is getting worse and worse...

ztsmart · 2014-11-03T23:42:43+00:00

Holy fuck shit. Try to imagine this with the gender role reversed--if she were a man.

Holy fucking christ.

cover20 · 2014-11-03T23:45:59+00:00

And sister turns into a lesbian.

Wonder if she would have had a shot at being straight if older sis hadn't been so manipulative, emotionally and physically including most sensitive areas.

KentRichard · 2014-11-03T21:18:08+00:00

Whats weird is that women like this try to dictate what is normal, this being the sort of activity that makes up her past. Now when it come to men they are disgusting creatures whose elegant sex drive design that has populated the earth since we began should now be considered dangerous.

aphelion3342 · 2014-11-03T21:23:45+00:00

I don't think the outrage is that Lena Dunham necessarily did anything wrong. The outrage is that any man who confirmed such a behavior on his own would get arrested, branded a sex criminal and become a pariah for life. Particularly with regards to masturbating next to the 10 year old as a 17 year old.

That's why everyone is going broadsides on Lena, because people on her side and of her ilk would have done it to any other man. So by unleashing hell on her, they are forcing the conversation to change back to something resembling reason.

SJWs won't back down until they start feeling the heat on their own. If one of their people starts to feel the same abuse they've been dishing out on men and on other people for the last few years, and starts to get beaten up in the media by the exact same tactics and for the exact same reasons that they've been going after others, hopefully they'll chill out a bit for fear that others in their midst will suffer next.

Also, we don't need to see Lena Dunham naked on television so that's another net positive.

Watermelon_Salesman · 2014-11-03T23:25:48+00:00

She fucking planned this shit. The reaction is predictable as fuck. She knew "men's rights people" would be pissed off, she knew feminists and hamsters would all side by her because she's their darling, and she knew would draw lots of attention to herself. The more controversy she can put in the shit she writes, the more she becomes a household name landing major Hollywood film writing bucks.

jameshookegrey · 2014-11-04T13:16:34+00:00

I tend to think of myself as a (moderate) liberal and I'm flabbergasted to see Dunham being defended in editorials published by high profile periodicals. I guess when conservatives said that legalizing gay marriage would be followed by incest and child sex abuse becoming socially defensible we shouldn't have laughed!

Cyralea · 2014-11-04T15:11:15+00:00

Lena Dunham is Feminist thinking personified. The is the purest form of their ideology. Complete abandonment of responsibility, extreme entitlement complex, complete inability to accept judgement.

Extreme leftists like her are the endgame for Progressivism. Open up everything so that nothing is taboo. This is what happens when you don't have boundaries -- she is literally shaming people for judging her child molestation actions. This is why you don't enable people to do whatever they want.

Feminism is a giant shit-test. When a woman demands that you not judge her, ignore her words and look at the big picture. She is a child that needs boundaries enforced on her, else she goes through a self-destructive cycle. If she had a strong male influence in her life he could have kept her from spiraling out of control.

gameno · 2014-11-03T20:19:15+00:00

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zpatriarchy · 2014-11-03T21:41:50+00:00

whenever i see RyanHatesThis i know it is going to be man-hating feminist lies & nonsense. i don't know who ryan is but he's a smart man.

trpArtVandelay · 2014-11-04T03:49:26+00:00

Jesus christ, the stupid in her is great. What was she expecting when she wrote all that? "Oh what a charming story of molesting your siblings! How edgy of you to admit to abusing a child!" And besides the horrible things she had already done to her sister, why publish that and put her sister in a horribly uncomfortable spotlight? "You know how I violated you when you were a kid? Well let me tell it to the world at large."

Lena Dunham is a fucking monster.

Tripleberst · 2014-11-04T08:47:20+00:00

So the fappening was a violation against women but playing with your kid sister's vagina is just good clean fun.

I seriously think there should be a #GirlsWillBeGirls campaign on twitter about this. This is too fucking funny to me.

Cypher211 · 2014-11-03T22:41:35+00:00

What the FUCK. I'm genuinely speechless right now, I thought the title was some kind of fucked up parody when I first skimmed over it. Genuinely cannot believe there isn't huge widespread outrage about this and I'm even more gobsmacked that she's throwing this about casually as if it's no big deal (seriously read some of her response tweets). Like I said, I don't think there are words capable of expressing the sheer and utter depth of hypocrisy here. If this was a guy nonchalantly recounting this we'd probably have riots in the streets.

briguy42 · 2014-11-03T23:37:25+00:00

This is some next level hypocrisy, absolutely disgusting.

This woman claims retroactive rape after being high on blow and benzos talking dirty while fucking some dude. Shit like that makes it harder for women and men who are actually raped to seek help, it makes it harder on law enforcement to handle rape cases, and the court systems to prosecute.

Same woman coerces her sister into sexual activities by giving her candy and money, but it's ok why? Because she's queer? WTF does that have to do with anything.

I guarantee this woman has no understading of what a detriment to society she is.

Id imagine being a member of the LGBT community is tough enough without having some fuck wit using that title as some sort of excuse for being a fucking monster.

seriously digusting.

[deleted] · 2014-11-04T00:52:46+00:00

What the fuck is a kid doing masturbating at age 7?

El_Serpiente_Roja · 2014-11-04T01:33:06+00:00

you can not fucking make this stuff up ...seriously

Zchavago · 2014-11-04T04:33:16+00:00

Now image Lena actually being a male and writing this about his sister...he'd be ruined.

JamesK1973 · 2014-11-04T05:32:42+00:00

What a fucked up person.

Playing doctor is one thing but then writing about...

Also, six years older than her sister....very fucking creepifying.

foxthechicken · 2014-11-04T06:09:02+00:00

Here is a Salon article (big surprise) defending LD titled, "The right's Lena Dunham nonsense just won't stop."

As if to imply that morality and decency for children are "conservative" issues.

http://www.salon.com/2014/11/03/the_rights_lena_dunham_nonsense_just_wont_stop/

Here is a very telling and scary excerpt from the article by the author, Emily Gould:

When I read the book I remember laughing out loud at this story. My recall of childhood isn’t as impressive as Dunham’s, but I’m sure I experienced similar funny-weird brushes with other kids’ privates; the first one that sprang to mind was when, around that same age, I saw something pink and squishy in the pants leg of a long-haired new friend I’d made on a beach vacation as we crouched over a sand castle. I had a moment of cognitive dissonance as I made sense of the fact that my friend was not, as I’d been assuming, a girl. Imputing predatory motives to a 7-year-old girl and assigning a role of victim to her sister, who apparently doesn’t feel victimized in the slightest (Dunham reports that Grace laughed at the allegations) seems more predatory and abusive than anything that Dunham describes in the book, which also includes descriptions of masturbating in bed next to her sleeping sister (who hasn’t?) and bribing her with candy for kisses (come on).

[deleted] · 2014-11-04T16:28:51+00:00

For feminists it's all okay if a woman does it, because then she's "striking back against the patriarchy" by proving that not only men can rape little children.

skeletorcares · 2014-11-04T00:47:43+00:00

She's part of the rape culture she's always accusing boys of. (which is also a complete sham)

Real_Patriot · 2014-11-04T04:40:29+00:00

Hamster through the fucking roooooof.

WindowToAlaska · 2014-11-04T04:53:40+00:00

Please tell me this sick fuck is going to be arrested and convicted for this.

Ratcheta · 2014-11-04T05:55:42+00:00

Today I learned that you can be declared a pedophile before you even hit double digits.

coffeemug73 · 2014-11-04T14:15:42+00:00

"I told a story about being a weird 7 year old. I bet you have some too, old men, that I'd rather not hear. And yes, this is a rage spiral."

As an old(er) man, I assure you that I have no stories about when I was 7 or 17 that come close to the depravity on display here.

SpaceChris · 2014-11-04T16:32:04+00:00

Turn the tables. If downloading leaked photos is rape - what is supporting a female child molester?

ilirm · 2014-11-04T17:27:58+00:00

You know, i have seen Girls and i thought it was great. Almost every female character in the show becomes more detestable as the seasons progress. It's like they really go into depth into the modern NY girl mentally deranged world and it comes out funny at the end, because, it usually ends in tears for them.

I thought it was a very good critique of the lifestyle in a humorous and clever manner. The fact that she continues her antics in real life, just goes to show how dedicated she is to her craft of trolling feminism, both on and off the screen. If she is doing this on purpose to discredit the ideology, i say bravo, she is being successful thus far.

Or, it could be that she really is THAT stupid and vapid, either way, the net effect is not beneficial to feminism.

[deleted] · 2014-11-03T22:34:22+00:00

Completely beats me why anyone has ever paid attention to this talentless whale and her unfunny soap opera. Unfortunately this news will probably just stir up controversy and increase her ratings in time for season 4 of GIRLS.

gtfooh1011 · 2014-11-03T23:35:31+00:00

Hi, one of those dreaded feminists you called for. I personally (cannot speak for everyone else) find this DISGUSTING. That's right, I'm siding with you guys. It's fucking sick. I know sometimes children get curious, I myself remember kissing a neighbor girl at only 7-8years old while playing house. But vagina touching, masturbation??? That's not normal, that's fucking weird and yeah she should get investigated. Girl or boy, no one should be forced or touched like that. I'm truly mad at the people defending her, there is no excuse. It's gross and wrong. I just wanted to let you guys know that not all fems are on her side. That lady is fucking crazy.

jameshookegrey · 2014-11-04T08:04:56+00:00

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artists_on_strike · 2014-11-03T22:06:49+00:00

Since when are we comparing adults to 7 year old girls in terms of legal and moral responsibility?

Even if a boy did this I wouldn't really consider this molestation. A 7 year old child is not competent and does not fully comprehend the consequences or the moral implications of touching, and likely wasn't even educated sexually at said age.

Why would anyone try to separate this into a feminist vs red pill thing is beyond me. Ridiculous.

IProbablyHaveEbola · 2014-11-04T01:45:44+00:00

What in the fuck does this have to do with TRP? Really.

OBOllie3003 · 2014-11-03T19:57:32+00:00

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Rougepellet · 2014-11-03T23:23:21+00:00

All the women out there and she chooses her sister. GoT IRL

masonpowers96 · 2014-11-03T23:29:19+00:00

Where does it say she masturbated with her sister in the bed?

strivingforfreedom · 2014-11-04T05:47:29+00:00

Did anyone watch that video on the truth revolt article. I could feel my testosterone levels dropping.

self_loathing_ham · 2014-11-04T13:48:38+00:00

What Lena did is fine as long as her sister gave affirmative consent amirite?

[deleted] · 2014-11-04T18:45:29+00:00

just another narcissist celebrity, not unlike Jian Gomeshi.

writeonbrother · 2014-11-04T20:38:35+00:00

Left wing celebrities always get a pass. Michael Jackson would have slumber parties with little boys and was celebrated for his "childlike innocence."

Everything is politics, including, sadly, Lena Dunham's little sister.

bpcPunk · 2014-11-05T03:05:35+00:00

Now go find the people that condemned John Grisham awhile ago and have fun.

nesshie91 · 2014-11-05T13:47:30+00:00

Who is this lady and what the fuck

[deleted] · 2014-11-17T21:55:59+00:00

I came her from another sub talking about this.

I'm at a loss of words on the people defending this action.

SMH

YaBoiTibzz · 2014-11-04T07:29:51+00:00

Guys, what are we getting so upset about? Women can't commit rape. It's the same way that men can't be raped. Nothing to see here IMO.

vandaalen · 2014-11-03T23:19:53+00:00

I am somehow too dumb to understand this. How old was she when that happened and how old when that stopped?

If this was something that she solely did when she was seven, then I must admit that this shitstorm not only makes me cringe but is sort of disturbing.

Children do all kind of wierd stuff and it's completely fine for me. Even if this was this ugly femicunt.

I am not going to start what sort of stuff I did when I was at that age.

[deleted] · 2014-11-04T02:28:25+00:00

i never knew who she was... GOD! She is ugly. You guys can totally judge a book by its cover. or a woman by her face. ugly on the outside as she is on the inside.

i see no bluepill faggots trying to defend this cunt now.

Ratcliff01 · 2014-11-03T20:47:05+00:00

Eh, I'm not hoping on this bandwagon. I hate lena dunham for a lot of reasons, but a seven yr old and a toddle? I mean kids are curious and I don't think harm was done.

oONemesisOo · 2014-11-03T21:11:09+00:00

Wasn't she ALSO a kid when this happened, she says she was 7... whats the big fucking deal kids explore shit like that at that age.

Christophilies · 2014-11-04T16:15:37+00:00

Comparing the sexuality of a seven year old child with that of an inebriated adult sounds like flawed reasoning from the start, but maybe that's just me.

ElKod · 2014-11-03T23:11:43+00:00

LOL All kids play with each other..... It's not always sexual, it's more of a curiosity aspect. Can't see anything wrong with this xD

foldpak111 · 2014-11-04T00:57:20+00:00

I don't care if you're male or female, if I catch you sexually assaulting a child, I'm putting you in the hospital. And when the white knights prosecute me for misogyny, I'll will happily spend years behind bars knowing I stopped a rapist.

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