so i notice this post about toxic femininity on /r/askfeminists. this and comments many men have made here leads me to ask--

Exactly who are you all waiting on to identify and discuss "toxic femininity"?

identify and discuss it. get a psychology degree, identify and discuss it and write a book. self publish if you have to. identify toxic femininity and start discussion about it everywhere.

where do you believe ideas come from? do you understand toxic masculinity was simply invented and identified by "the men's mythopoetic group" who then started writing stuff about it and discussing it?

why are you all waiting around for "toxic femininity" to fall out of the sky? go ahead...make it a thing.

are you of some beleif that FEMINISM is going to make up toxic femininity and address it for some reason? why on earth would they do that? they already have a concept for the femininity THEY dispprove of ("false consciousness") from the FEMINIST perspective. are you all waiting for feminism to identify a "toxic femininity" from a MASCULINIST perspective?

the whole discussion is baffling to me

Edit: since everyone's pretending not to understand what i mean:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/80f3ml/why_the_invention_of_the_term_toxic_masculinity/

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/9qtzf7/q4w_why_do_you_think_toxic_masculinity_is_a_thing