Do you guys think this is true?

DukeMaximum · 2020-05-27T14:46:37+00:00

In most cases, yes. Men are primarily judged by what they can provide to others.

LockedPages · 2020-05-27T15:15:06+00:00

3/4s of all homeless are men. That enough of an answer?

MistaKPJ · 2020-05-27T14:25:12+00:00

Yes, its 100% true. I take one look at the homeless and suicide rate, this quote pops in my head everytime

michaelklr · 2020-05-27T14:24:41+00:00

This is true

BirdOfHirmes · 2020-05-27T15:24:20+00:00

I think it's possible for fathers to be loved unconditionally (I know this is true of my own even if he's not with us), which is just to say that most things are not as black and white as initially painted, but the message itself is still true enough to exist on its own.

Fjorge0411 · 2020-05-27T14:55:51+00:00

This is so not true!/s He forgot the other cute animals!

jakob_warkentin · 2020-05-27T14:24:24+00:00

It's definitely not always true, but it is true in a lot of cases.

tigersteaks · 2020-05-27T16:00:26+00:00

Fathers and sons in some cases?

but the general feels are different when in terms of women as an individual interacting with someone of a similar age who is not within family on a romantic playing field.

There’s lots of poverty shaming going on in dating. There’s a bias for real.

Depends what you can provide? What are her expectations?

A worthy woman should be easy to get along with: it shouldn’t be an effort.

She should hope for the best and support you through the worse.

When did partnerships become so unequal?

We do have expectations of women, yes.

I feel our expectation is of someone who doesn’t conform to all the third wave femisandrist bullshit, or doesn’t gives us a hard time about our clothing, our friends, our habits or our flaws.

This is what I’ve learned that I look for, learning from Previous toxic encounters.

Women’s expectations can be a lot more extreme.

It’s important to discount those ones from potential partners, rather than trying to change them or attempt to keep up. Real talk.

The potential partners who hold this view aren’t worth the time the effort or attention.

It’s a loud voice but they’re saying nothing.

TheKingBenedict · 2020-05-27T16:16:18+00:00

I’d say that in an ideal family/relationship/society this isn’t true and everyone is valued based in the content of their character, but because no one’s perfect it’s just impossible to achieve this. And because toxic feminism has conditioned so many people to hate men, men sometimes don’t get a blank slate when meeting new people and people assume that because he’s a man, he’s a rapist or at the very least a dirty misogynist. Society conditions men to feel a need to be the bread winner and provide for their household, and to feel shame if they aren’t able to do that. So yes, society conditions men to be judged by their accomplishments and salary but hopefully reasonable people won’t follow that trend.

sexytimeinseattle · 2020-05-27T16:18:01+00:00

I'm not sure it's true, but whenever a woman tells me that she loves me and I'm not providing anything, I assume that she's playing the long game.

NoobifiedSpartan · 2020-05-27T17:21:47+00:00

Nothing is loved unconditionally. That’s fundamentally not how love works. Anything that is loved provides something. If we’re talking something material, that is a different matter.

That being said, while it does seem that women go after men for money more than men go after women for money (if stereotypes are led to be believed), this is not true if we’re talking absolutes. Like most things, this is a gray area. There are men who love woman conditionally and vice versa.

In my opinion, however, matters of love should not be a focus of feminists or MRAs. Such things are very deeply personal, and given that we live in a time where love is equal (anyone can love and marry anyone), there is no longer a place for activist involvement.

SsoulBlade · 2020-05-27T15:42:05+00:00

It is simple. Look at female and male attraction. Men goes nuts over the female body. Remember the female has that be default. Women wants men that can do shit for them.

Just having a big dick is not enough for females.

SpammyBoiDotCom · 2020-05-27T14:40:54+00:00

Definitely true

ifelsedowhile · 2020-05-27T19:49:11+00:00

Depends what you mean with the word unconditionally: we can say that women are loved because they provide sex and companionship, children and pets are loved because they provide cuteness. We can argue that men have to put much effort in what they have to provide and that's the difference.

smorgasfjord · 2020-05-27T18:20:12+00:00

True about men, not about women. No grownups are loved unconditionally.

Swa9Dra9on · 2020-05-27T20:14:51+00:00

Of course not. Because this is a joke. Chris Rock is a comedian. Hes performing stand up in this photo.

Sharkictus · 2020-05-27T21:21:38+00:00

All is conditional, the difficulty of fulfilling the conditions is variable.

What is love for giver and receiver and what is enough is also variable.

BeckyBbz8884 · 2020-05-28T03:34:38+00:00

I'm a 16 to girl but theres only one guy who's ever bought anything for me and hes a friend. The one I love most right now I love coz he's so caring and nice and is the best to cuddle with tbh.

trp_angry_dwarf · 2020-05-28T04:59:17+00:00

I think men are loved by children and dogs unconditionally. Maybe other men as well.

Heterodynist · 2020-05-28T14:19:47+00:00

Yes, yes I absolutely do. Go, Chris, go! He’s been right about this for years!!!

ColonelVirus · 2020-05-27T16:52:23+00:00

I don't think so. I don't think anyone is loved completely unconditional. Someone always wants something at some point from the love they give. We're all selfish assholes.

it-s_satire · 2020-05-27T19:48:08+00:00

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zvezdaburya · 2020-05-27T21:41:23+00:00

No this is not true. I've been in a loving relationship where I provided next to nothing.

casemodz · 2020-05-27T23:21:07+00:00

The problem was that hundreds of years ago...or even...80 years ago, women were useless, could not work and couldn't vote. Their goal was to look pretty and be a stay at home mom. Let's go back not even 60 years to 1960. It was still pretty common. Be pretty, marry into wealth.

Women still want to keep all the good parts that benefit them. A man paying for the date, a man doing all the work to court (romance) the woman and the man providing the money house and lifestyle.

I will never pay a penny on a date again. My time, company and presence is enough, period. If a girls main concern is what she can get out of it and not what she can get to know about me, she's worthless.

johnslegers · 2020-05-27T16:08:42+00:00

In my experience, yes.

Women tend to lose interest in any man who fails to fulfill certain practical, emotional and/or sexual needs.

Men may lose interest in a woman when she eg. becomes less attractive by gaining weight or aging, but this is far from universal. But others will love a woman indefinitely, even if certain traits that initially made them fall in love have declined or when that woman fails to fulfill certain needs, if he feels their connection is strong enough to overcome this!

2020-05-27T15:51:01+00:00

In some cases maybe. I feel a bigger point is how expendable men are. We do the most dangerous jobs, are expected to sacrifice our lives and health for our families more than anyone else, anything dangerous we deal with and we are encouraged to be more risk taking. I don't believe biological factors explain the age expectancy gap. Plus, the world is simply more dangerous for us in general unfortunately

AirplaneNote · 2020-05-28T06:02:44+00:00

We should change that and make men loved unconditionally too.

xRussianbishop · 2020-05-27T15:39:10+00:00

And for what The big piece of Chicken

SlavNotDead · 2020-05-27T16:57:32+00:00

I think about uncertain things. This is a well known fact.

Kyonkanno · 2020-05-27T17:53:56+00:00

Maybe your mother would love you unconditionally, but it's not a guarantee.

12inchdickHitler · 2020-05-27T19:44:40+00:00

Love yourself unconditionally, dont depend on others and all problems will subside and bliss will remain

EViL-D · 2020-05-27T20:18:22+00:00

No, my mom and dad love me unconditionally

benderXX · 2020-05-27T22:14:44+00:00

I love Chris Rock

The most positive impact regarding Men’s legal and health rights in the culture will be done by stand up comics. Sad or not, I am confident it’s true.

Mythandros · 2020-05-27T22:40:18+00:00

100% true.

PeacefullyFighting · 2020-05-27T23:10:08+00:00

Why I have started to hate my phone. It's no longer, "what are you doing? Let's chill" or "we're headed over to x, meet us there." Instead it's always asking for something, can you help with this or any other number of calls/texts that ruin your day & your an a-hole if you don't. Why can't people just ask to play golf anymore?

coralcontroversies · 2020-05-28T05:08:09+00:00

Chris rock has a lot of good takes, dude just speaks the truth

i_live_in_sweden · 2020-05-28T06:54:50+00:00

Absolutely 100%

2020-05-28T07:39:04+00:00

this is not true... he forgot cats

AkashUK · 2020-05-28T11:11:24+00:00

Very true for most men.

AntiAbleism · 2020-05-28T18:56:03+00:00

Absolutely true.

DerpMemelord · 2020-06-26T01:38:25+00:00

Yet another reason to love Chris Rock, he makes a good point. It’s unfortunate that this is the way society is smh.

antonimbus · 2020-05-27T16:45:37+00:00

Just my own personal experience, but I am friends with two women who have married men that were unemployed drug addicts. My own wife earns slightly more than I do. So, that's three data points to use I suppose. If you personally think you're being victimized by only being valued and loved based on what you can provide to your partner, then you might be in a bad relationship.

McFeely_Smackup · 2020-05-27T17:05:14+00:00

There's a reason why a man who has no job is near universally recognized as "a loser" and/or "useless".

InvincibleV · 2020-05-27T16:02:01+00:00

Well in the UK the top reason for male suicide is financial instability. So I would say it is true at least to a point.

george_reeves_ · 2020-05-27T16:37:42+00:00

In most cases yes

StingRayFins · 2020-05-27T16:42:30+00:00

so far it's been true for me and every relationship I've ever seen.

Throwaway_Old_Guy · 2020-05-27T18:32:56+00:00

This is why I don't care for Father's Day.

Treat me as though I actually matter the other 364 and save yourself the one-day show.

for_unpopular_things · 2020-05-27T15:09:34+00:00

This is true and also will never change

phaesa · 2020-05-27T16:00:12+00:00

I agree and would add that everyone provides something. For men, providing financially is part of the 'solid,' 'stable' nature of the masculine. You're loved partly for you ability to take care and protect, part of which is providing financial security. Women have their beauty and forgiveness, children have their innocence and joy, men have their strength and stability. In any relationship there is a contribution of value from all parties. Sincs being a man entails more than being a provider, he can be loved for being strong, valuable, and in his masculine element in many ways other ways.

DerpTheGinger · 2020-05-27T18:19:46+00:00

Okay I know where I am and all but god this joke upsets me. It simultaneously devalues the work traditionally seen as "a woman's role" e.g. childcare, while also enforcing stereotypes of toxic relationships.

My grandfather hasn't "provided" (in the traditional sense) for my father in decades, or ever for me, yet we both love him. Healthy relationships and love of any kind are built around mutual respect and appreciation for the other as a human being. You know who enforces this idea? Men. Men set up the system to push women towards domestic labor and don't consider that labor to be valuable because it isn't for a wage. In a relationship, all parties should "provide" roughly equal effort (in the long term), even though it might add up to different dollar amounts.

(And this is, of course, only viewing the joke through its own gender-binary lense, which comes with all sorts of baggage)

huapua9000 · 2020-05-27T19:17:55+00:00

Not always true, it depends on who you marry and have kids with. And who loves (unconditionally) dogs, children, and women that aren’t part of their own family? All that matters is you are loved by your own family.

pheromonekvlt · 2020-05-27T19:47:22+00:00

This is..... Not true at all

arendt1 · 2020-05-27T20:14:37+00:00

If this is his truth Then Chris is hanging out with the wrong people

FlamboJambo2 · 2020-05-27T20:22:00+00:00

I'm sure there's truth to it, but I'm pretty sure women are also expected to provide things, just different things. Women moreso than men have to spend time housekeeping and staying beutiful.

Both men and women get screwed over.

OrgianalCuntent · 2020-05-27T21:06:35+00:00

AndrewWaldron · 2020-05-27T21:34:04+00:00

If you're getting your world views from the punchline of a joke from almost 2 decades ago then you have bigger personal issues than at large men's rights.

Jaz_the_Nagai · 2020-05-27T22:21:38+00:00

Nope. Almost no one is loved unconditionally. Just the conditions for men are more clearer than for others.

Bibiloup · 2020-05-27T22:35:17+00:00

I find (in a generalized sense) men are only loved if they provide and women are only loved if they’re beautiful. It’s hard on both sides.

shtivathedestroyer · 2020-05-27T22:51:11+00:00

Having just witnessed the shitstorm that is r/GenderCritical, where so many comments are made as blanket statements assuming a certain ubiquity of truth in the words, I'm now especially wary of general statements that imply "all men or "all women", because while there are certain trusims regarding gender, it really doesn't do justice to the multiplicity of scenarios that play out all over the place, many of which are totally contradictory to what is assumed as the all pervasive norms. These kinds of attitudes only serve to further a sense of division, in my opinion, and aren't helping.

casemodz · 2020-05-27T23:03:13+00:00

Absolutely. Explains why so many tinder dates expected me to pay for the meal.

MakisMato · 2020-05-27T21:11:14+00:00

"Women are human beings, men are human doings," as they say.

trueandfree · 2020-05-27T23:58:22+00:00

Unconditional love only exists within relationships like mother and child. Father and child too, but maybe not the same because carrying and bearing that child is unique.

All other love is conditional.

If your woman cheats or abuses you or someone/something you love, that love comes into question. If your dog bites you and becomes aggressive and dangerous to your family, bye bye doggy.

Don't be fooled into thinking that relationships don't come with conditions that need to be met.

Cadrid · 2020-05-28T00:57:41+00:00

No, not even remotely.

I’m a man in my 30s, and I’ve definitely been given unconditional love from friends and family. I feel sympathy for all the men in this subreddit who haven’t had that in their life, but it’s not the norm; you’ve been surrounded by shitty people. You should reach out, either in person or online, to find some decent human beings.

It’s out there, you just gotta find it.

TheMidnightMemer · 2020-05-27T15:05:53+00:00

Not necessary, but in most cases yes. Aside from overly clingy women with daddy issues and young children.

fightingspork · 2020-05-27T17:16:50+00:00

This may be the current nature of our society, but is it good?

LotBuilder · 2020-05-27T18:50:13+00:00

Yes, other than your mom. She loves you.

kequilla · 2020-05-27T19:35:24+00:00

A line mt uncle says "if she cant find you handsome, she can at least find you handy."

mimiczx · 2020-05-27T20:34:34+00:00

🤯🤯🤯

ItsKaptainKilljoy · 2020-05-27T20:47:44+00:00

I like to call this idea "the instrumentalization of men," the tendency to treat men as tools or resources or means to an end. Other men and women actively participate in reinforcing this trend, or just passively benefit from it. Lots of people treat men like useful stepping stones to success, rather than human beings.

When my grandfather fought in the battle of the bulge in WW2, a lieutenant ordered him to charge up a hill, with no cover, to take a German machine gun nest. My grandfather looked him straight in the eye and said, "No. that's idiotic. We can go around and we don't have to die." That Sociopathic lieutenant embodies the instrumentalization of men.

SpinItUpLockItUp · 2020-05-27T20:52:10+00:00

but I don't love dogs

hankbaumbach · 2020-05-27T21:04:05+00:00

Absolutely not!

People love cats, too. I don't, but people do.

Cking_wisdom · 2020-05-27T21:16:41+00:00

Unless your parents care pretty much. I owe my parents so much

2020-05-27T22:11:21+00:00

I get that. Men have always been seen by society as providers for centuries. I could care less tbh. I love any man who has a kind warm honest heart and that is good to other people.

Guimanfredi · 2020-05-27T22:24:23+00:00

I mean, it shouldn't, but it is.

wooberries · 2020-05-27T22:51:55+00:00

there is indisputably more pressure on men to accomplish/provide things, but it's asinine to say men are only loved if he provides something.

Midwest88 · 2020-05-27T23:10:23+00:00

I'd say yes, to a degree. People will use you and if they have no need for you, either at the moment or in the long run, they'll ignore you. This sentiment is directed to women mostly on how they treat men.

If you earn 60k and another guy takes home 200k, who's gonna win the date with the cute lady? Ain't the former.

lenard-laurencin · 2020-05-27T23:52:11+00:00

This is sad because it’s true, think about it what worth to people give to men that does not revolve around what they do and how much money they make doing it?

MasterLeonSeb · 2020-05-28T01:30:47+00:00

Thats what makes growing up so conflicting. Going from boy to man and losing that love and getting everything else dumped on you

FookSake · 2020-05-28T02:16:06+00:00

“They’d rather me die on top of my white horse than watch me fall down.”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=psN1DORYYV0&t=998

netvor0 · 2020-05-28T02:19:27+00:00

If it was completely true, it wouldn't work as a joke.

adriano205 · 2020-05-28T08:15:47+00:00

cats as well

scaredofshaka · 2020-05-28T08:43:22+00:00

Wait, this is wrong - dogs love unconditionally but don't really get that in return. Nobody loves an old grupy dog for example.

bellaaa111 · 2020-05-28T09:22:27+00:00

I don’t think it’s true that women are loved unconditionally, a lot of value is assigned to women through how desirable they are sexually, this is conditional. Whilst I do think male success is primarily judged by the resources they acquire, I think this lacks a lot of understanding of other factors. I think this sub tends to view women as a monolith at times, rather than literally half the population with a varying amount of other factors that influence behaviour.

Opiumbrella33 · 2020-05-28T09:23:53+00:00

Yes and no. Yes as in it is true for both men and women, no as in it is not just true for men. I think what is expected of them from a societal standpoint is different, but none the less there.
You just need to find a partner who is a good person. Not all men or women treat people this way.

youcantdenythat · 2020-05-28T10:29:02+00:00

Narrator: And just like that, MRA's became red pilled.

Jesus_Shaves_ · 2020-05-28T10:34:51+00:00

I’m going to say no. There’s plenty of marriages where the two are practically destitute but still love each other.

ninja8618 · 2020-05-28T12:15:02+00:00

My mother and brothers love me unconditionally. I haven’t done shit for them ( because I’m a piece of shit). The statement Chris rock made maybe true only in a sexual / romantic love context, and only for good looking men and women.

Cobalt_Volatile · 2020-05-29T11:34:16+00:00

I genuinely think that I found my senior quote...

OnlyBreakfast6 · 2020-05-29T18:55:11+00:00

No I don’t think this is even close to being true. 1. I don’t know a single male or female who feels they are loved unconditionally. 2. Most children are loved conditionally (although forgiven more easily than adults) 3. Babies and animals are the only ones loved unconditionally (but not by everyone).

DizzyxSin · 2020-05-29T19:06:37+00:00

Only attractive women are loved unconditionally. Dogs get euthanized if they bite.

TransientOscillation · 2020-06-01T15:37:58+00:00

bingo

LuckyKiwi2 · 2020-06-04T18:30:54+00:00

and cats!

huggoleo1 · 2020-06-14T15:49:17+00:00

[cats wants to know your position]

penaut · 2020-07-31T23:33:47+00:00

Croatian_ghost_kid · 2020-05-27T16:55:32+00:00

I don't know, maybe run this question somewhere where it wouldn't be preaching to the choir?

3iffel_B3lasini · 2020-05-27T19:43:58+00:00

OP, fuck you. Stop reposting this crap. It has nothing to do with Mens Rights. Again fuck you.

dtyler86 · 2020-05-27T18:40:15+00:00

Your parents will always love you (mostly), your dog will love you. But if you lose your job, your hair, your body; your wife will find another man.

Alert-Mango · 2020-05-27T21:12:23+00:00

Thanks, here's my paycheck

a1b2d2a2 · 2020-05-27T21:47:15+00:00

Only people who’ll love you for who you truly are, are your parents as they clothe bathe dress clean up and cook for you every day for so many years, then they plan out a future for you to follow to hopefully bring you riches, and then one day when they are old, too old to care for themselves they ask for one thing.. for you to look after them.

wreave · 2020-05-27T23:15:57+00:00

Thanks for knockin' out that rent!

Sure is easy to do homework in here with all this light!

Ketsa · 2020-05-28T04:46:28+00:00

backdoorinvestor · 2020-05-29T00:59:29+00:00

Yes and the sooner you learn to overcome it as a fact of life, the better off you’ll be.

HyDrOfLaMeReddit · 2024-08-21T03:25:55+00:00

A man is loved by his dog unconditionally.

johnslegers · 2025-07-15T14:56:51+00:00

In my experience?

Yes!

The reason for that is almost certainly multi-faceted, there's obviously nuances missing here.

But do I believe this is accurate as a general rule / principle?

Yes!

No_Sale_4178 · 2025-11-21T02:26:18+00:00

Xylitolisbadforyou · 2020-05-27T15:36:41+00:00

No, I don't think this is true. However, I know some men who feel this way.

Z3pilin · 2020-05-27T16:45:38+00:00

I want to upvote twice.

wwwhistler · 2020-05-27T17:02:10+00:00

to those who claim this is not true...have an example?

odyseuss02 · 2020-05-27T21:43:19+00:00

Yes. Women and children are perceived as having value simply by existing. A man is just a farm implement.

TheLaughingMelon · 2020-05-27T16:49:39+00:00

Sadly, yes

Canisluous1558 · 2020-05-27T16:52:51+00:00

Yes. I think this is true.

another_redditor1219 · 2020-05-27T17:08:29+00:00

100%

shoetreemoon · 2020-05-27T17:13:40+00:00

Completely.

GTRPrime · 2020-05-27T19:00:17+00:00

100% true

projectreap · 2020-05-27T19:03:33+00:00

Interpersonally no. Societally, yes.

Xerxes_Generous · 2020-05-27T20:45:44+00:00

Nobody is loved unconditionally; this isn’t a gender issue.

Dawntless · 2020-05-27T21:05:47+00:00

2020-05-28T04:31:19+00:00

Briffault's law: The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.

Lyric_1 · 2020-05-27T15:01:43+00:00

Not true, no. There are many guys (me included) who are loved unconditionally too.
I love my girlfriend <3

ElectraUnderTheSea · 2020-05-27T18:14:06+00:00

From a societal point of view, yes. Everyone is expected to love children and dogs, and women are definitely seen under a far more benevolent light than men. But I really don't think it applies to the majority of people in their day to day lives; sure there are plenty of men who are treated like a commodity who is there to provide but in the same way plenty of women are treated like glorified maids. I think the more gender unequal a society is (e.g. men seen as the stoic providers, women as the virtuous mothers and homemakers), the more likely this is to hold true from a societal perspective - and more likely for.men to be treated as providers only and women as only good to have kids and stay home.

swallowingbatteries · 2020-05-27T19:06:13+00:00

Unconditional love doesnt exist, women are loved on the condition that they are women, people love dogs because they are dogs, children are loved because of our genetic coding to protect them

Julia_Arconae · 2020-05-27T23:17:20+00:00

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Mens_rights_matter2 · 2020-05-27T15:57:25+00:00

The funniest jokes are the ones that are true and we can relate to.

WarOfNoise · 2020-05-27T17:49:29+00:00

yes, because this is how it's always been. we were the ones that enabled a society/tribe/whatever to survive by being the ones that hunt the food, build the house, fight off the other men, etc. women are the ones who have the babies, comfort the men and the babies, cook the food better than just a raw hunk of meat (which we men would gladly just eat as is) etc. it's nature.

as i have always said, men build the house, women turn it into a home. We provide the thing, women improve the thing. Without the feminine presence we'd probably just be living as... well... most single men do.

phoenix335 · 2020-05-27T18:43:51+00:00

Not much different for women. The sexual and relationship market value for them is about the likelihood of having healthy children.

It's more of a potential, not a demonstrated value, though.

SteadyPulse · 2020-05-27T18:15:03+00:00

I don't think it's true? What about overweight and ugly women? Like they are loved unconditionally cmon?

Industrialman96 · 2020-05-27T17:30:32+00:00

I think there are many times when women are loved only when they provide sex and i don't like it as a man. So nope

KayeMKay374 · 2020-05-27T14:51:06+00:00

Women are not loved unconditionally. 😐

rbrockway · 2020-05-27T17:31:12+00:00

As Warren Farrell said, men are human doings not human beings (paraphrasing).

sbp1991 · 2020-05-27T18:13:25+00:00

Yes.

abusuru · 2020-05-27T18:13:38+00:00

The more interesting question is would you change it if you could

xxdibxx · 2020-05-27T20:59:25+00:00

I assume you ask the question because you doubt if it is true. One can only guess why. There are VERY rare occasions this isn’t true. Throughout the ages, up until the last say... 100 years... men provide, women perform. Men hunt, kill, provide security and stability. They provide the house and much more. Women perform cleaning, cooking, sewing, child rearing and more. It has been a functional symbiotic relationship for centuries.

junkeee999 · 2020-05-27T21:39:50+00:00

It's true...but I like it that way. I have no problem proving my value. Unconditional love is nice but ultimately when it's given to me and don't feel I'm worthy of it it makes me feel hollow.

judochop1 · 2020-05-27T22:52:10+00:00

No cos women kids and dogs are only kept around as long as theyre useful or not annoying or dangerous.

Women are held to same standard but if you go with someone who cant look after themselves or are only interested in possessions you can provide then thats your own mistake for not doing due diligence.

There has to be some middle ground here.

BrendaSchwaub · 2020-05-27T22:55:19+00:00

Pecuthegreat · 2020-05-27T15:28:04+00:00

Well I would say Women aren't loved unconditionally but 3rd wave Feminism is trying to make it so half successfully

didgeridude2517 · 2020-05-27T19:51:18+00:00

I think we should cry about it while we enjoy advantages in literally every category.

QueefofPolice · 2020-05-27T19:05:19+00:00

Fellow men - if you're looking for serious life advice from a Chris Rock standup bit, you're gonna have a bad time.

tacosRcool · 2020-05-27T18:38:58+00:00

Sexism in a nutshell

zen_veteran · 2020-05-27T23:24:26+00:00

All men are someone's child. So.... You know.

vladimirpropp · 2020-05-27T17:32:17+00:00

There’s still a men’s rights subreddit????

it-s_satire · 2020-05-28T02:15:50+00:00

I mean, there’s a literal femicide in Mexico right now. In China, under the one-child policy, so many daughters were killed (not through abortion) that there’s a shortage of women there now.

Also, unattractive women (genuinely unattractive) are treated like shit. Often women who don’t put out/put out too much too. We can talk about men’s rights without making it seem as though women have no issues of their own

yogaflame1337 · 2020-05-28T00:25:58+00:00

I would say that women are judged by their ability to reproduce.

millenialprincess · 2020-05-27T16:35:47+00:00

Men are worthless unless they can provide. Even female spiders eat the males after mating. Many men leave their baby momma and baby anyway. A guy that stays and provides is a good man. What do you do with somebody who either leaves or sits on their ass all day smoking weed? Theyre not needed.

SpainButWihoutTheS · 2022-01-09T23:15:01+00:00

Imsomedude-dude · 2022-10-18T22:11:06+00:00

sodacan82 · 2023-03-09T19:28:50+00:00

I think that dogs and children do need unconditional love but I feel like if a woman sat around all day not having a job or doing house work she wouldn’t be loved too much either though I’m not saying he doesn’t have a point

Title	Do you guys think this is true?
Author	ToastyKibbles
Upvotes	7630
Comments	440
Date	May 27, 2020 2:14 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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