This isn't meant to be an attack or a callout for any posters here, but it's more of a cautionary tale/warning.

I often see posters happily posting about a man they've been on a few dates with or maybe have been casually seeing for a few weeks. Almost always, they refer to the man as a "HVM". I understand why they'd want to do that, but I also think it can be a bit dangerous to label someone so early on. Obviously there are some negative value males who immediately out themselves as low value, racist, misogynistic, a cheater, etc. but pretty much every woman who's ever been in an abusive or toxic relationship would tell you he seemed high value at first. You CANNOT know whether a man is high value only a few weeks in. Just because he took you out to a nice dinner or bought you roses or didn't push when you said no to sex does not make him high value. If you listen to pretty much any true crime story about a man killing his wife/girlfriend or even just normal women relating their experiences on this sub, many of them talk about how magical the first few months with their abusive exes were. Abusers/users always seem perfect..... until they start abusing/using you. This is how abusers and narcissists trick you. You're more likely to stay in a relationship when you have good time that you don't want to give up on. How a man treats you at the beginning of the relationship unfortunately is not a predictable indicator of how men will treat you 5 months in, 5 years in, 25 years in, etc. when you're not fucking 24/7 and real life gets in the way.

IMO, calling a man a "HVM" before dating him at least 3-6 months encourages you to lower your guard and ignore minor-seeming red flags that are actually giant red flags and indicators for future shitty behaviour. Of course, there is no way to ever truly know that your man is high value, because male depravity knows no bounds (hence our insistence on never being dependant on him), but I think you'll be able to avoid more shitty men if you're constantly noting their behaviour and changing your evaluation of them based off what his current actions are rather than what he did for you an hour ago or yesterday or last week etc.