Q4ALL: How do you predict gender dynamics will evolve over the course of the 21st century? What do you think will happen in future generations?

bala-key · 2017-04-10T19:07:19+00:00

My predictions:

Tinder like services becoming even more widespread.
More herbivores and dead bedrooms like in Japan.
Increasingly immersive porn. Interactive. VR. At some point in this century: sex robots.
Attention that would have went into relationships going into online activities instead: video games for men, social media for women.
More and more children born outside wedlock. (2011 OECD average: ~30+ % and quickly increasing). Marriage losing its importance and meaning even more.
Pervasive mass automation destroying the the male 'provider' role even further. This will include white collar and service jobs too.
More female than male college graduates outside a few niches. Women out-earning men. (On average.)
Possibly: paternity tests becoming generally illegal without mother's consent. (Like in France and Germany today.)
Non-monogamy becoming normalized.

trpobserver · 2017-04-10T18:29:11+00:00

Japan

trpobserver · 2017-04-10T18:23:08+00:00

Femists will ban sex robots.

Men will escape in to virtual reality.

Women will have to pay for sex. Cause they wont settle.

Battle-Scars · 2017-04-10T18:48:32+00:00

You should add a flair to your username. I'm thinking can you elaborate would be appropriate.

UhKhat · 2017-04-10T18:52:03+00:00

Hopefully we'll all start communicating better and stop seeing such a war between the sexes. That's the dream. The reality is probably that more and more men will turn to virtual reality and sex dolls and women will somehow convince themselves they're better off for it. That would be so incredibly sad though....

DarkLord0chinChin · 2017-04-10T18:50:29+00:00

AI will make most male jobs useless. Women will still be able to sell their company (Japanese hostess bars), bodies and wombs, but strength and intelligence that men have will be made redundant. Beyond that it's really hard to tell. Who knows, maybe we'll live neutered lives in human zoos (hello Matrix) while our robotic overlords become the new humans

wub1234 · 2017-04-10T19:32:29+00:00

I don't think there will necessarily be a huge change. But if we continue with the current economic system, with the level of debt that exists now, with the declining value of labour, increasingly globalised economy, and, as others have said, AI / robotics rendering many jobs obsolete, then I feel there will be an increasing pull factor towards economic status.

Already in Britain, if you're 20 years-old and growing up in London...good luck buying a house. Someone with the means to buy a house suddenly becomes an attractive proposition.

buttlollipop · 2017-04-10T19:41:27+00:00

While I do think that VR porn/sex robots/what have you, may become more prevalent, their overall effect on the sexual/relationship marketplace won't be much. Why? Because men have sex for validation. Those things don't provide validation.

I could see those things replacing the porn we use now, as a fun side-hobby for guys already in relationships, or a sexual outlet for guys who aren't in relationship, but no guy who would otherwise be desired by women is going to opt out in order to fuck robots. This is some Margaret Atwood revenge fantasy shit. The only men who would ever opt out of dating entirely are the men nobody was interested in, in the first place.

littlemetalfollicle · 2017-04-11T00:08:11+00:00

Wow people here are really pessimistic!

I think things will become more flexible:

Greater acceptance of non-heterosexual relationships (although we're well on our way here)
More 'non-traditional' households eg. polyamorous households, more openly asexual couples etc.
A lower level of marriage, but not necessarily people being in relationships less!
People getting married at older ages
Greater acceptance of online dating
Reduction in domestic abuse (towards all genders)
Greater acceptance/openess towards couples/family counselling
Ofc reduction in gender wage gap, average seniority gap etc

People keep bringing up Japan as the future, where no one's having sex any more. Imo, I don't think Japan's case is going to spread to other country just because it's a rich, technologically advanced country. Despite its advances, the way aspects of its society are set up means that its become difficult to sustain more modern type relationships, eg. where both people in a marriage have jobs. The 'traditional' nuclear family has held on longer in Japan than in the West (although what was actually traditional in Japan was living with your extended family). Aspects of the way Japanese labour works: seniority-based wages, lifetime employment, company-specific training, means the emphasis is on one company investing in one employee for life and flexible working (done by eg. women who want to take time off for childcare) is more difficult to pursue. A woman who wants to pursue a career is going to find it hard to raise children at the same time, and there's more and more women who want to pursue careers or further education to some extent. A man is still expected by society to often work ridiculously long hours and not help at all with housework, childcare, etc, and this is causing problems with helping people form relationships. I don't think these issues apply much outside of East Asia.

ManSentHisOwnWay · 2017-04-10T18:55:06+00:00

I think people might be slightly less inclined to have relationships or even date than they are right now but outside of that I don't think it'll be all that different in the future.

littyagain11111 · 2017-04-10T20:49:31+00:00

The same thing that is happening to the monetary economy, income inequality.

Instead it will be the sexual economy, and pussy inequality.

History has shown this is the way, the winners keep on winning and the losers lose more.

How far the divide grows is the question, not whether it will be present or come to an end.

MorpheusGodOfDreams · 2017-04-10T23:35:14+00:00

South Park explained it best. Women are smart, but not funny. So they will eventually enslave men and mine them for jokes and semen.

reepbot · 2017-04-11T01:07:35+00:00

Automation will play a huge role. Millions of blue collar workers, a large majority of them men, out of a job because of robots. Too late to try and train these unemployed into a different profession. So now you have millions of unemployed in a society which values career above all. Where these people, mostly men, felt a sense of worth about being able to be independent and to provide food on the table. Now they will all be unemployed and on welfare. Depressed and angry. That can't be good.

And feminists will just laugh at them.

vorverk · 2017-04-11T07:14:56+00:00

Trp will become mainstream. Not the hardcore red version of it, but a slightly dirty purple...

Manospherian · 2017-04-11T13:38:36+00:00

Number of male incels will steadily increase. These men will generally turn to more and more interactive forms of pornography, or go to prostitutes if that becomes normalized (if feminists choose to legalize it, could go either way.)
Steady break up of traditional family structure and traditional (financial) hypergamy will eliminate the beta bux from the SMP entirely.
Round 2070 or so, Sex bots and Virtual reality should reach a level where they replace actual partners for a large part of the dating market.
As a result, the dating market would largely be left with the most attractive of men, and above average women. Dating, I think, would largely be about social status.
By the end of the century, I think the people exclusively on porn and sex bots will pretty much be eliminated through gene selection. Everyone will be quite attractive. In that case, sexuality might resemble what is described in Brave New World

marianasentmenudes · 2017-04-11T13:49:54+00:00

20% of men will be fucking 80% of women.

Some men might opt into fucking sex robots.

AKA I don't see marriage being viable in the future.

TheChemist158 · 2017-04-10T19:45:07+00:00

I think the shift towards androgyny will continue. Women become more ingrained in the workforce and become more prevalent in areas they are less prevalent in now. The family unit will adjust to having both parents working full time. Maybe with daycare getting cheaper/universal, maybe with clusters of couples sharing duties, or older relatives watching kids. Men will take on more housework as a result. Feminine/masculine traits in partners will become less important as gender roles evaporate. Shared interests and life goals will take their place.

There is likely a natural bedrock to this trend, where women and men will some keep some stereotypes/gender roles.

Princeso_Bubblegum · 2017-04-10T18:40:14+00:00

assuming the inevitable collapse of capitalism doesn't happen, there will likely be a resurgence of traditionalism and stay at home housewives, as the material conditions within capitalism which created the phenomena are still there

i_have_a_semicolon · 2017-04-10T21:16:16+00:00

I see things improving for younger couples. Less divorces than previous generations.
Less people entering marriage
More openness to male desire and male issues from females (as they begin to realize male issues are valid when they stop wanting to marry)
Incels will have virtual sex available to them

voteGOPk · 2017-04-10T23:45:08+00:00

inevitably the happier women will be the ones who are not attracted to traditional masculinity, because that will become rare and if you really want to date have ltr and marry, you will need to be ok being with an "beta" male type who wouldn't be able to change his own oil or change a flat tire or fix a leaky faucet if his life depended on it.

speltspelt · 2017-04-11T00:03:40+00:00

Interesting things will happen when pregnancy robots get invented and women get access to the reproductive privileges of men.

The descendants of the generations who unlinked sex and reproduction will be less keen on sex and more keen on reproduction.

BlackPillReaper · 2017-04-11T01:33:57+00:00

Collapse of society as we know it and reversion to patriarchy

theiamsamurai · 2017-04-11T14:19:47+00:00

Same thing that happens with rats with overpopulation and social overload: declining fertility, sex drives, populations, and increasing depression.

UA_Hammer · 2017-04-10T20:01:52+00:00

The liberals will genetically die off from all their childfree/ I'm a woman now snip snip antics.

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abicus4343 · 2017-04-11T00:19:05+00:00

A two tier sexless, genderless servant class/slave society that caters to and is controlled by an elite few. That's the actual end goal imo and it is inevitable at this going rate. People will no longer breed and couple traditionally but will be lab grown to be androgynous, dumbed down, servant class drones and probably microchipped at birth. The elite few will live as Gods on earth.

Apexk9 · 2017-04-11T01:47:00+00:00

Which gender they are trying to tell people there are 44 of them.

Sorry penis equals boy vaginal equals girl rare exceptions for the other 4 biological configurations.

It's gonna get crazy I tell you what

Christian_Kong · 2017-04-11T03:15:16+00:00

I think as automation ends up doing 99% of all jobs the world will move towards socialism as we will not have any need for workers. Money will no longer exist. People of the arts(acting, music, etc) will be of the highest social(&SMV/RMV) status as there will be no rich class of people. People that want real human relationships will still have them, but many will opt out in favor of AI lifestyles full of people without negative traits. AI based companions will take a large percentage of people out of the dating pool, birthrates will plummet as a result.

Title	Q4ALL: How do you predict gender dynamics will evolve over the course of the 21st century? What do you think will happen in future generations?
Author	HopefulAboutADHD
Upvotes	22
Comments	279
Date	April 10, 2017 6:17 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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