Ohio bill would allow pregnant people to sue men for unintended pregnancies

ABeeBox · 2022-07-08T12:14:04+00:00

Yay! Another way to use false allegations and abuse the legal system!! Can't wait for predatory women to take advantage of drunk men, used condoms, and whatnot for free $$$!

But for real, Imagine having to pay child support, have no reproductive right, AND be sued for lack of reproductive rights. When are men gonna protest?

C20H25N3O-C21H30O2 · 2022-07-08T07:44:38+00:00

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QnsConcrete · 2022-07-08T10:14:05+00:00

What’s a pregnant person? Isn’t that a woman?

Solid-Perspective98 · 2022-07-08T10:26:56+00:00

Maharath said the existence of the new law makes it more important that people who become pregnant have the option to file a civil suit against the person who impregnated them, regardless of how it happened.

It sounds like a woman can sue a man if she rapes him and become pregnant with his child.

Prophetspeaks · 2022-07-08T07:53:33+00:00

What bothers people in the comments is the “birthing people” part💀never mind the part where men are going to get sued wholesale for “un-wanted” pregnancies

Accomplished_Shoe_31 · 2022-07-08T08:53:37+00:00

Really? Men are held responsible it’s called child support. Hell we’re the only ones held responsible.

Lionheart27778 · 2022-07-08T12:12:55+00:00

That's crazy.

America is fucked atm.

Every-Rabbit-7175 · 2022-07-08T07:36:34+00:00

Only women get pregnant.

skolopendron · 2022-07-08T09:00:52+00:00

Man, I'm so happy that I'm 40 now, with a lovely wife that supports and understand my needs. I don't have to deal with all this crap that young lads have to. Stay strong guys, it will all pass sooner or later.

KazukiYahashi · 2022-07-08T08:40:30+00:00

At this point, women just want to fuck without any consequences on their own end. They just will do anything to not be held accountable for their actions. It takes two to tango, after all. :)

Stormruler1 · 2022-07-08T19:56:03+00:00

Why only men? Why do they say "people" when referring to women but always say men instead of "people" when it comes to men 🤔

kal_el_diablo · 2022-07-08T11:21:07+00:00

This is just more misdirected rage against men. This woman is angry about the ruling and is lashing out at men, even though it is NOT men that are against her on this, it is Republicans. Men and women remain equally split on the issue. And what is even the point of this? Sue men for what? The system already allows women to take very liberally from men financially for the children they father. This is already covered. That's how you know this is just about revenge (and against the wrong group at that).

SomeonePleaseKillMe1 · 2022-07-08T17:28:24+00:00

Pro-choice men in Ohio are getting fucked by both sides right now.

DiversityIsDivisive · 2022-07-08T19:46:06+00:00

lol "pregnant people" dude you mean women?

CawlinAlcarz · 2022-07-08T13:11:53+00:00

Women presently can (and many do) "sue" men for pregnancies that were intended by the woman and UNINTENDED by the man - they call it child support, alimony, etc.

This proposed bill is pure histrionics and hypocrisy.

Pinkrose571 · 2022-07-08T20:09:51+00:00

Wtf is a pregnant person?

DaddyGroove · 2022-07-08T20:24:45+00:00

"Pregnant ... people"

Jesus christ

Sensitive-Ad6609 · 2022-07-08T12:39:15+00:00

Wow... I feel bad for anyone who is decent living in Ohio. That is messed up.

Ferbuggity · 2022-07-08T08:21:10+00:00

Jfc, as if women are not already blameless enough.

Ohio guys, get on it, protest and vote and march the shit outta this. I mean, this is your futures and the futures of your sons at stake.

MrFanciful · 2022-07-08T11:22:31+00:00

Which persons “unintention”?

caligrown_85 · 2022-07-08T14:24:57+00:00

Isn’t that what child support is anyways?

RetrogradeIntellekt · 2022-07-08T19:02:11+00:00

So women should be treated as adolescents who can't understand the consequences of their actions whereas men should be treated as adults?

Funny way to push for equality, especially from a woman.

2022-07-08T21:54:04+00:00

"Pregnant people" immediately followed by "men"

Hmmm.....

3-10 · 2022-07-09T02:24:16+00:00

How about getting to sue women who lie about birth control?

Laarye · 2022-07-08T16:29:13+00:00

Pregnant "people"

Sue "men"

Hmm...

odysseytree · 2022-07-08T07:52:34+00:00

Another example of feminism absorbing women from accountability and holding only men responsible. And then they complain about why men are listened more? Because you yourself put men at higher standards so a group who will is treated as an adult will of course get more recognition.

Biffgasm · 2022-07-08T15:10:05+00:00

The patriarchy strikes again. /s

azaleawhisperer · 2022-07-08T20:14:55+00:00

What exactly is a man, by the way?

TheCryptoKeeperHodl · 2022-07-08T20:21:11+00:00

Don’t want to get a girl pregnant? The poophole is the loophole

zesty1989 · 2022-07-08T20:36:31+00:00

The thing that bothers me about this is that it ignores a woman's right to choose whether she has sex. It gives her the ability to lie to her partner about her birth control and get rewarded for it.

Both parties should be held accountable for their decisions.

BonnieMcMurray · 2022-07-08T20:59:19+00:00

Ohio bill would allow pregnant people to sue men for unintended pregnancies

Side note: if we're saying "pregnant people" because saying "women" unfairly excludes trans men (who can become pregnant), then by the same reasoning shouldn't we be saying something like "sperm producers", so as to not unfairly exclude pre-op trans women (who can produce sperm)?

Sinner12180 · 2022-07-08T16:33:37+00:00

ThE PatRiARchY 🤡

jessi387 · 2022-07-08T20:53:10+00:00

The funny thing is that men are ALREADY held financially responsible for “accidental pregnancies”. It’s called child support, for which you will thrown in PRISON if you fail to meet your “ financial obligations”. There really is no point in this bill, because society is already pretty much set up this way.

GltyUntlPrvnInncnt · 2022-07-08T16:36:44+00:00

Worst.patriarchy.ever.

RecoveringCoomer · 2022-07-08T19:41:11+00:00

I thought that was called child support...

mrselwells · 2022-07-08T19:46:13+00:00

As if our legal system isn't already congested...idiots...they are all idiots

S3542U · 2022-07-08T19:46:30+00:00

Shouldn't this be phrased: "Ohio bill would allow pregnant people to sue other people for unintended pregnancies"?

smollpp- · 2022-07-09T02:09:27+00:00

It's like they want to create more MGTOW, or something.

ItsKonway · 2022-07-09T05:14:02+00:00

pregnant people

holds men responsible

lmfao

xdzgor · 2022-07-08T09:11:32+00:00

It takes 2 to tango

IronJohnMRA · 2022-07-08T12:23:38+00:00

So now women are not even responsible for their own bodies. Unbelievable. This a rad fem's wet dream.

helloimderek · 2022-07-08T16:10:44+00:00

Wait? What happened to my body, my choice? You can't claim autonomy over your body then blame others for the consequences of that freedom.

If anything, MEN should be able to sue a woman for getting pregnant. Men don't control their bodies (according to them) so why is it that men are responsible for what happens to their bodies? Like good god, I have to perform mental gymnastics to understand society's logic.

Women should be the only ones that control their body. Freedom of choice. I 100% believe that. BUT, I believe that men should 100% be in control of their finances and money and should be able to opt out of fatherhood. If a woman chooses to keep a child then the man should get to choose if he wants to pay child support or not since he had no say on whether the woman keeps the kid or not. Both need parts need to happen in order for the other to work. If abortions are made illegal (right now it is possible for them to be made illegal since Roe v Wade was axed but they're not illegal yet) then that would change everything.

This country is regressing into the dark ages.

NeoNotNeo · 2022-07-08T17:00:14+00:00

Pregnant people

dw87190 · 2022-07-08T07:41:23+00:00

Wooooow

guitarteachernj · 2022-07-08T13:33:04+00:00

So does this mean every sexual encounter needs to be videoed as evidence, including wrapping your willie close up on camera? How can a man defend himself against stupid laws like this? As another Redditor commented here, I, too, don't envy the predicaments of single men today in this highly misandrist culture.

rainbow_bro_bot · 2022-07-08T15:43:38+00:00

What about cases where the condom has been tampered with? Such as the recent case in Germany.

johnnyquest2323 · 2022-07-08T19:52:36+00:00

This is idiotic

azaleawhisperer · 2022-07-08T20:42:04+00:00

Perhaps the Ohio bill would want to limit the lawsuit to a particular who was a knowing and enthusiastic participant in the creation of the pregnancy.

AdobiWanKenobi · 2022-07-08T20:53:01+00:00

What the fuck

General_Alduin · 2022-07-08T21:30:21+00:00

I'm sorry, aren't woman equally complicit in having an unplanned pregnancy (when it's not rape)?

zombiemess872 · 2022-07-08T21:49:56+00:00

They’re really trying to divide the sexes

vhisic · 2022-07-08T22:37:31+00:00

Fucking hell take some personal responsibility, the women is half the act as well.

NJ_Mets_Fan · 2022-07-09T02:17:02+00:00

another shithole state i wont be moving to ever. see ya ohio, dont need ya :)

crackisthelifesource · 2022-07-09T03:58:39+00:00

Says “pregnant people” then says “men” are we biologists or not? 😂😂

AffectionatePapaya13 · 2022-07-09T04:32:55+00:00

Pregnant people 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Marty-the-monkey · 2022-07-08T11:57:17+00:00

Honestly, I can kind of see this as the extention of the removal of abortions.

To me it's seems like a protest bill, to illustrate a point (whether or not you agree or disagree with the point is a different matter), and not as a bill intented to be passed (I'll bite my tounge if they get it through).

If women are to be forced to live with the consequences of getting pregnant, I can see the reasoning behind such a protest bill (that not the same as agreeing with it, just that I can see what point they are making).

and yes I'm aware of the many other laws and injustices which ropes men into paying for children they don't want, however my point here is that whomever suggested this bill is attempting to make a equivalence (however misguided one might find it) to how women now have to "pay" for unwanted pregnancies, so men have to as well

C20H25N3O-C21H30O2 · 2022-07-08T17:41:18+00:00

Here’s how you fight that lawsuit: “your honor, she jumped on my man meat with no condom and begged me to nut in her.”

Billy-Batdorf · 2022-07-08T13:59:11+00:00

It's like Democrats are trying as hard as possible to get Men to resent access to abortion and despise women.

The_Peacock_King · 2022-07-08T13:59:51+00:00

Lmao, you can't make this shit up. They're big mad they have responsibility again, and their promiscuousness is being held to the same standards we men face.

Man I love equal rights, it really shows you who the crazies, and truly privileged are.

greyman0425 · 2022-07-08T15:00:51+00:00

Remember gents "you are not entitled to sex" is a two way street. She is not entitled to sex either.

Keep you d!ck in your pants or wrap it.

ImJustHereForCorn · 2022-07-08T15:03:44+00:00

What about where the woman steals a condom to force a pregnancy? It happens. Does the man not get any respite or justice in those instances?

peptide2 · 2022-07-08T12:06:28+00:00

How about keep your damn legs closed ladies?

DirtyPartyMan · 2022-07-08T13:28:12+00:00

Like we didn’t see this coming

2022-07-08T14:37:18+00:00

Pretty soon unpaid casual sex and normal marriage are going to be only for rich people.

like how now, a family of 4 or above living in suburbs on one income is something only rich people can do.

hawksdiesel · 2022-07-08T15:33:49+00:00

another way to abuse the legal system... bad law, bad politician. There are more important things that need to be addressed. This is NOT ONE OF THEM!

goinsouth85 · 2022-07-08T17:04:41+00:00

It is a protest bill written by a democrat (minority party) that probably won’t come to the floor. Nothing to see here.

Flaky-Illustrator-52 · 2022-07-08T17:06:33+00:00

This will not pass. Both parties are fully aware that there is a chance of protection and birth control failing before they have sex. Considering that said sex was consented to by both parties (otherwise it would be rape), any pregnancy is both of their faults.

driverguy8 · 2022-07-08T21:44:56+00:00

C20H25N30 = LSD, C21H30O2 = Cannabidiol, if anyone's wondering.......

2022-07-08T22:06:23+00:00

And all of this just because of a stupid law against abortion. Wouldn't it've been easier to make abortion legal?

safetaco · 2022-07-09T01:27:35+00:00

We should be able to counter-sue them and get a court ordered abortion.

Enaatisha · 2022-07-09T02:16:49+00:00

Lol what? That's so fucking stupid

2022-07-09T04:17:32+00:00

Pregnant “people” lol aka Females

ijustdontcare74 · 2022-07-08T13:09:37+00:00

So a woman can deliberately get pregnant, sue the baby daddy, then abort....rinse and repeat for regular cash stream.

Seems totally fair /sarcasm

Then again this is a democrat proposing this in a conservative state....not a chance in hell of it passing.

TracyMorganFreeman · 2022-07-08T15:29:02+00:00

whether the pregnancy was from consensual sex or not

So they want to allow women who rape men to sue their victims.

The reality is this is a DOA bill meant to Virtue signal what she thinks women will be subject to.

TheSpaceDuck · 2022-07-08T19:13:39+00:00

This comment comes to mind. Imagine the progress the feminist movement would have made so far if it were as pro-women as it is anti-men.

to give consideration to her bill that holds men, who cause an unintended pregnancy, responsible whether the sex that led to the pregnancy was consensual or not

That already happens. It's called child support. Which men have to pay despite having literally zero choice on the child's birth.

This seems to be yet another feminist law for "strong independent women" to lie about contraception, sue, get a couple thousands, move to another state for an abortion (or an easier method to terminate pregnancy if early enough), repeat with another guy and not have to work a day in their lives.

PettyCrocker_ · 2022-07-08T13:13:27+00:00

They also didn't let a ten year old rape victim get an abortion last week. Ohio is a cesspool.

Lockds · 2022-07-08T11:20:19+00:00

Easy enough, I will identify as a woman then.

Fast-Mongoose-4989 · 2022-07-08T11:39:46+00:00

If these bill gets passed more men will turn to crime and kill them selves great.

Twinkidsgoback · 2022-07-08T12:57:31+00:00

So does this mean men can sue women for it too like say the women pokes holes in the condom or tells him she’s on the pill

Kinexity · 2022-07-08T15:27:38+00:00

"pregnant people" yeah. There so many types of people who can get pregnant that no one category can encompass them all.

2022-07-08T15:52:47+00:00

Typical feminist dodging accountability like Neo.

Glass-Ad-2389 · 2022-07-08T16:15:14+00:00

So we can sue women for aborting our children?

Flockswithflames · 2022-07-08T17:01:21+00:00

Pregnant "people". So they can sue them and THEN either abort it or receive life long child support? Women are so oppressed.

cplJimminy · 2022-07-08T17:46:16+00:00

Shouldn't it be the other way around? Women, ahem... pregnant capable people, can decide when to get pregnant. So shouldn't men be suing wom... pregnant capable people when that happens?

DATB0IMAN · 2022-07-08T18:13:00+00:00

You mean women?

FreedomAnarchist88 · 2022-07-08T22:01:01+00:00

Ya that's not going to be abused at all.

Unusual_Elevator_253 · 2022-07-08T23:12:41+00:00

This is some of the craziest shit I have ever heard off

PuzzleheadedFlight90 · 2022-07-08T23:37:53+00:00

who comes up with these shitty laws?

Mr_Offensive93 · 2022-07-09T00:49:55+00:00

Feminism is not about being pro-female anymore, it's all about being anti-male.

Angryasfk · 2022-07-08T10:07:46+00:00

Clearly a reaction to Row v Wade and the Ohio law (can’t just snear at Texas rednecks now). At least it’s more sensible than the mandatory vasectomy garbage from various other grandstanders.

museumsplendor · 2022-07-08T11:16:44+00:00

This is going to leave women just wanting oral and anal.

Men better learn how to use a strap on.

C7000x · 2022-07-08T18:57:15+00:00

Isn’t that called child support?

Electronic_Demand_61 · 2022-07-08T12:50:10+00:00

The left is destroying hookup culture and they don't even know it lmao.

2022-07-08T22:46:40+00:00

This is about right. Stupid Republican men…. She can’t abort, it’s killing babies. Then pissed that someone wants to Sue them for not Pulling out and using A condom. Come on dude. Protect Yourself and you won’t have to worry about it.

jestarcarbar · 2022-07-08T23:34:46+00:00

so child support LOL

TheMatchingRadical · 2022-07-09T01:27:15+00:00

“The bill has little to no chance of receiving a committee hearing or passing in the Republican-lead Ohio Senate.”

Still messed up that this gets suggested

TAPriceCTR · 2022-07-09T03:16:37+00:00

They already can. It's called child support.

Nicholas_VI · 2022-07-08T18:48:40+00:00

Fine. Carry the child to term, sign over ALL rights to the father (who will pay for any expenses related to the pregnancy, NOT including basic living expenses for the mother-victim as this is not a retirement scheme). Then they can walk away from each other.

DustNtheWin · 2022-07-08T15:13:03+00:00

Men hold the responsibility to not stick their dicks in psychos. Think twice before you blow in a rando! Monogamy wins.

Ok_Razzmatazz_1751 · 2022-07-08T20:06:36+00:00

By reading the actual article not speculating this goes for anybody that has consensual sex or non-consensual sex that results in a pregnancy. The individual that caused the pregnancy, the man can be sued civilly for support.

It's only common sense that they're going to tighten the reins on women and bring in a more conservative thinking mindset into the United States that it's going to be a domino effect eventually towards men too, they don't want a bunch of men out here having a bunch of babies without responsibility being held.

ineedhelpalways2 · 2022-07-08T13:59:34+00:00

Bro wtf

stacyxxluv · 2022-07-08T09:54:37+00:00

I mean costs of giving birth in America range from 15k on average all the way to 50k. If women aren’t allowed to abort then it makes sense that men have to pay for birth as well. But 50/50 not 100% in my opinion.

Longjumping_Beyond_1 · 2022-07-09T00:15:46+00:00

You boys are all so emotional!

Zachisawinner · 2022-07-08T14:47:01+00:00

Seems good. If women are forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy then men should be forced to pay for it.

GrannyGoodness89 · 2022-07-09T05:49:15+00:00

About time, men need to be held accountable because like it or not there are horrible men out there.

TomFriendlyy · 2022-07-08T08:40:55+00:00

I don't know of Tina maharath ehp wrote the bill is a feminist. But I know it's feminists fault and they are controlling her actions somehow through witchcraft.

ThetaNation · 2022-07-09T03:47:27+00:00

DIO PORCO!!

MixtureSufficient956 · 2022-07-09T07:30:18+00:00

This is why I believe in smaller Government. Maybe someone should tell these ladies how a baby is made. You know “if you don’t want a baby try shutting your legs.” MGTOW

dizzyleigh · 2022-07-09T15:07:22+00:00

It's definitely incentive to get loud about abortion rights. When women get loud they get laughed at.

To be honest this is dangerous. But not as dangerous as forcing pregnant people to remain pregnant after 6 weeks no matter the circumstances.

If we gotta make sure this doesn't happen, then we have to make sure women can opt out. It would be immoral to speak about pregnancy as a "consequence" of sex for women but not for men.

To be clear I'm not a fan of using a child as a pawn to punish anyone in a puritanical society. But I'm especially not going to endorse special treatment for one sex over the other in the conversation around pregnancy as a consequence of sex - whether consensual or not.

This certainly lights a fire under our asses to act. Which I honestly believe is probably the motivation for it. I've never actually had a conversation with a woman who didn't wanna be pregnant but then changed her mind because she could get some money out of it. Most women who don't wanna be pregnant couldn't be paid enough money to go through with it.

False accusations aren't really necessary when pregnancy requires a man to be involved. She's not gonna risk her entire suit by going after the wrong guy in an era where paternity tests are the norm in deciding who's responsible. Women aren't out here spontaneously growing embryos.

TheSilverShade · 2022-07-09T20:20:37+00:00

Very interesting.

First there was this Roe vs Wade abortion thing.

And now this. I can't be the only one seeing through the lines.

Women won't be able to abort so there will be more entrapment of men getting sued, as if child support and alimony weren't too much already.

MrElderwood · 2022-07-09T21:19:30+00:00

I can't begin to tell you how mistaken you are I'm afraid.

But let's start, if you want to, with me asking for evidence of your claim that men win slightly more family law cases than women.

GrannyGoodness89 · 2022-07-10T14:51:11+00:00

Majority of rapists are men

GrannyGoodness89 · 2022-07-10T14:54:34+00:00

US Department Of Justice say based on statistics 99% of rapists are male

lalopiloto13 · 2022-08-15T11:22:50+00:00

I swear women aim to avoid any real responsibility for their actions. 18 years of 20% of your income is already holding men responsible. It’ll be interesting to see what exactly the law defines as “unwanted pregnancy”. Can a woman just change her mind a couple of weeks after like they’ve done countless times when it comes to rape accusations and changing their “consent” decision the morning after? I honestly don’t see how any judge can legally enforce a decision based on hearsay.

Title	Ohio bill would allow pregnant people to sue men for unintended pregnancies
Author	C20H25N3O-C21H30O2
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Comments	400
Date	July 8, 2022 7:35 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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