It’s one thing to debate the nuances of attraction and self improvement, but if you’re debating against somebody who is basically straight up denying that the world, human behaviour and the dating market is “like that” then it truly is a waste of your time.

If you’re somebody who has found value from TRP or found TRP usually it’s because of a reason. And that reason is either you’ve have something happen to you or you’ve seen enough happen that didn’t make sense at first and you wanted to find out why.

Those of us who are “old enough” (30+) and have maybe been round the block a bit now have seen and experienced first hand what reality is.

And I’m going to list things that are simply a fact. And I’m going to do it without putting it all on women too, because BOTH men and women do these things in equal measure.

People cheat. Sometimes people cheat on good people for almost no reason. Most people will bend the internal morality of their actions around their wants and desires. People will swear on their grandmothers grave they’d never sleep with somebody after meeting them once, and then shock themselves by sleeping with THAT person when they eventually encounter them. Love is essentially transactional, not just monetarily but emotionally and physically. Sometimes people just don’t want to be with you any more. Looks are a MASSIVE part of attraction. Comfort kills attraction. Your partner is not yours, it’s just your turn.(MOST relationships will end sooner or later) Most people believe they’re more righteous and principled than they are. Morality has nothing to do with arousal. Both genders are struggling to find fulfilling partners because one side has grown weak and one side is now free to select for what they want which is the best of the best. Certain immutable traits are key. Most relationships after a couple of years are routine and not sexually fulfilling. People are nowhere near as unique in their behaviour as they think they are.

Men and women are both capable of everything listed above.

Is everyone out there trying to use, break hearts and cheat. NO. Most human beings are very much looking and trying consciously to attain and build the perfect, unconditional, long lasting loving relationship. That’s their conscious motive. But life is life and it truly hits people harder and at weirder angles than they could possibly have anticipated. Good sweet innocent people surprise themselves. The righteous fall. Most are not as strong or as selfless as they think. Those who believe they deserve the world can only actually attain very little. There is no such THING as deserve, there is, isn’t, won’t, will and can and can’t.

To simply DENY all this stuff is a product of either lack of exposure or choosing to deny. Which is fine. But if you are red pilled or old enough and experienced enough to have seen all of this multiple times in the real world, WHY are you arguing with people who just straight up claim that people aren’t like that? It’s a waste of your time and a pointless argument. That IS the reality of the dating world whether we like it or not.

Some lucky souls are born and die Blue pilled because they have an amazing lucky streak their entire life and it simply is not a concern for them. I’m sure there are soldiers at the battle of the Somme who just strolled right across no man’s land without a single bullet whizzing past their ear thinking “that really wasn’t so bad”.

You KNOW what’s “up”. So don’t waste your time arguing with people on here who claim to love skinny emotionally vulnerable shy guys who have never had a one night stand in their life. Most of them will surprise themselves one day. And it won’t change your life or the lives of others one bit because it’s just the way it is and you’ll have long forgotten about your thread from five years ago where they claimed almost nobody cheats because a man turned them off by crying.