Do you have ideas for policies that will address mens' issues?

Xeltar · 2024-12-03T13:57:48+00:00

Prison reform and criminal justice system reform will be a policy change that disproportionally helps men. A lot about our prison system is a disaster where the goal is to extract money/labor from men and their loved ones.

Throw_r_a_2021 · 2024-12-03T15:55:19+00:00

End anti-male discrimination in education and hiring by banning DEI quota systems and unfair scholarship systems that disproportionately favor women at the expense of men. Ensure that social welfare programs aimed at men get equal funding as social welfare programs aimed at women. Grant men equal rights to control their reproductive cycle by giving them equal access to “paper abortions” in places where medical abortions are viewed as a right.

Podlubnyi · 2024-12-03T15:53:27+00:00

Re-establish male only spaces. The response will be, "why don't men just create them?" but they do already and that's not enough. Their right of men to have their own space away from women should be protected by law, because women, especially members of the man-hating cult, have a nasty habit of showing up at men-only groups and events and disrupting them, forcing them to admit women, or getting them deprived of funding or closed down.

Make joint parental custody the default, unless one party voluntarily renounces their right to it or there is a compelling (provable) reason not to grant it. There is a correlation between joint custody and lower suicide rates in men.

More Govt programs and policies specifically aimed at helping men, and they should receive funding comparable to that received by equivalent women's groups. If there is a Secretary of State for Women, there should also be one for men. DV and sexual assault shelters and hotlines specifically for male victims. Health programs and funding with the specific aim of improving men's health - Obamacare currently has 27 sex-specific programs for women and only one (!) for men. Men don't even warrant a separate category on their website.

RapaxIII · 2024-12-03T16:43:00+00:00

Honestly, I don't think a lot of young men will be engaged with daily life because the incentives aren't there, especially in the US

Fab_Glam_Obsidiam · 2024-12-03T13:42:34+00:00

A lot of progressive policies. Universal healthcare (including mental and dental health), universal college education, a jobs program, etc. Obviously the whole education system needs to be reformed - I'll leave that to people smarter than me though. I agree that some kind of civilian corps would be a good thing.

A big problem is that American policies prioritize profits over social welfare. I'd support something like a cap on the number of hours minors can spend online per week. It's hard to balance that with access to information and education, however. It would have to be regulated very carefully.

Affectionate_Cat1512 · 2024-12-03T13:49:21+00:00

I don't think men's problems can be resolved by law, as they are mostly social.

abaxeron · 2024-12-03T14:27:23+00:00

Do you have ideas for policies that will address mens' issues?

Lots.

The main problem men face, the greatest umbrella issue that is at the core of every other, is free time crisis. It is not limited to modern rich developed countries, it did not start yesterday, but it was not always there.

Men don't do regular medical checkups because they'd rather have some sleep in order not to go insane. Men get into more fatal road accidents because they much more often have to drive while exhausted. Men die of heart attacks more because they spend years and decades essentially sleep deprived. Men don't get enough physical exercise because they can't afford it within their tight schedule. Men drink because they don't have enough time to relax their mind by other, more natural and less toxic means. Men leave impression as inattentive and forgetful romantic partners because their mind and heart are fixated on survival. And when men have a moment of respite, they just sit stiff and look into one point before them, be it a TV, a PC/cellphone screen, or a blank space, because their mental gearbox is still hot and spinning.

Men face free time crisis because they have to teach themselves everything about life because school and college didn't, and because they are forced to support and sponsor women who hate them at the expense of their own friends and family.

Once this keystone is addressed and fixed, everything else will fall into place. Or rather, will be put into place by men themselves.

King_conscience · 2024-12-03T14:19:28+00:00

The only policy l would've is bring back the industrial trade jobs back into HS programs

Teach children the skills they need so they can put food on the table before they are old enough to graduate

Other than no policies since most men are doing fine

Hatefuleight-36 · 2024-12-03T19:41:43+00:00

Criminalize paternity fraud and make it punishable by 15 years imprisonment.

YetAnotherCommenter · 2024-12-04T02:26:23+00:00

Legal Paternal Surrender
Re-strengthening vocational education & defunding the colleges (both to reduce credential inflation and punish the incubators of systemic misandry)
Defund any DV organization that uses the Duluth Model or any derivative of it, and redirect funding to DV organizations that are scientific and gender-neutral (such as SAVE and RAINN).
Abolish all sex-based affirmative action
Rebuttable Presumption of shared parenting in the event of divorce

These are just off the top of my head, but I will point out men's problems are often more cultural than legal, so that's the primary issue that needs to be addressed. All these legal issues are consequences of the underlying cultural ones.

Hoopy223 · 2024-12-03T15:11:51+00:00

Well here in America

Making sure that young men graduate high school and college at similar rates as women with a focus on STEM/medical degrees/law.

Ending the feminist war against male voices. Any time men speak up in any space they’re almost always told to “shut up!”.

Health issues/homelessness are becoming epidemic and nobody seems to give a shit (not just a man issue tbh).

TopShelfSnipes · 2024-12-03T21:07:40+00:00

All schools should have recess and physical education.
Normalize men seeing a urologist starting at age 18 and offer incentives through insurance to keep costs down for regular urologist, dermatology, and primary care checkups to minimize incidence of male cancers, skin cancers, and routine issues that are preventable and treat them early.
Normalize ultrasounding for testicular cancer instead of the ballrub test.
Better support and re-integration services for veterans. Job training, support communities, better healthcare/better continuation of healthcare once service ends, etc.
State-level training for police departments throughout the company on responding to male-victim domestic violence situations.
Victims of rape cannot be held liable for child support.
Paternity fraud stemming from divorce requires a mother to pay back the non-father 100% of child support payments with interest in a legally binding debt that cannot be discharged through bankruptcy.
In future family court cases, a paternity test is required to establish fatherhood before child support payments can be authorized by the court. Men have the option to voluntarily waive this right at any time, if they choose to do so, in which case they would be legally liable for any awarded child support regardless of paternity.
Higher pay for "supplemental overtime" (>60 hours a week, say double time) in hourly jobs to disincentivize jobs from working people that much (disproportinally men)
Equalize family leave policies between men and women following a childbirth. Both new parents should get a bunch of time off.
Fix dating apps (see my suggestions in the how to fix dating apps thread) so they're less of a window shopping experience for women and a numbers game for men, and reduce the amount of crap attractive women have to sort through in terms of one word messages, lewd messages, etc. (seriously, check the thread).
End "no bail" policies for violent criminals. Since men are disproportionally victims of violent crime, this will make men safer by not allowing dangerous people out while they await trial.

GGMcThroway · 2024-12-03T23:30:39+00:00

Mandatory conscription for men.

Give them the brotherhood and gainz they need.

Eater0fChildren · 2024-12-03T16:11:18+00:00

Complete overhaul of the education system. Something where the objective is not "sitting in a lecture and being able to do the busywork you were assigned". One idea is to "gamify" school and make it more competitive, men will be more interested.

Purge of cultural Marxism (aka wokeism) in academic and corporate environments

Reduction of female only scholarships/privileges.

RoseyButterflies · 2024-12-03T14:36:05+00:00

More education on the damaging health impacts of drugs and alcohol between ages of 16-18. Sex education between 16 to 18.

Sex ed for me actually ended at 16. Might sound bizzare to US people but here sex ed ends in year 10 at 16.

MagnaFumigans · 2024-12-03T15:30:01+00:00

You’re not going to like it but it rhymes with Dandatory Bivil Jervice.

waffleznstuff30 · 2024-12-03T15:49:56+00:00

Better emotional support for men.

Male normative alexithymia is a thing and men lack proper emotional skills and are suffering as a result. So more therapists trained in support of men and than can help men. Also maybe support groups and things to help men build community with one another to address the loneliness issue. I also think self esteem movements for men. That helped women flourish and I think men should have something like that too.

Age restrict and content lock a lot of manosphere things and keep it off popular platforms it's cancer for young men. It's really sad young boys are getting involved with red pill/black pill things at a young age. It only leads to the defeatist mindset that's plaguing a lot of men now and encouraging toxic masculinity.

More trade/educational opportunities for men. It seems women are outperforming men. So an influx of encouragement to men to continue getting educational benefits and find ways to encourage men into school would be important. And give them a sense of purpose.

funfacts_82 · 2024-12-03T13:51:10+00:00

I would just ignore "womens issues". Men need to focus on men, the outcome will reflect that.

mashedturnip · 2024-12-03T14:44:34+00:00

They already have recess and PE, lol. I don’t know where you live, but that sounds grim

The economy has to do better

More progressive economic policies might help

Also represssive social policies a la project 2025

wtknight · 2024-12-03T16:43:26+00:00

A lot of men just need more discipline. I personally don’t, but I’m not struggling. The education system and even many job environments have become more feminized, which while it’s great for women, harms men.

Too much discipline isn’t good either, though. High stress work environments in East Asian countries help men do better, but leave them little time to pursue lives outside of work and raise expectations for men too high.

Some middle ground is probably best. At the very least, society needs to address men’s issues much better than just calling anything traditionally masculine “toxic”.

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shadowrangerfs · 2024-12-03T20:28:59+00:00

Bring back recess. When did recess go away? I worked at a elementary school last year and we had recess.

CuriousPassion77 · 2024-12-03T21:14:56+00:00

Make child support and alimony tax deductible for the payer. Child support hasn't been tax deductible but alimony was, at least until the TCJA went into effect on this issue in 2019 (I believe). You have a case like mine where half my net paycheck goes to child support and alimony, yet my taxes are based on my full gross, to make matters worse, child support and alimony are not reportable as income for the receiver. Super unfair. Many things like benefits and taxes are based on AGI (adjusted gross income). For my case, my AGI is really twice my effective income, whereas for my ex they have an artificially low AGI and qualifies for thing they wouldn't get if that was counted, not to mention an artificially low AGI for tax on their job. edited for typo

AreOut · 2024-12-03T21:48:34+00:00

improvement for men can bi only individual, if all men suddenly improved women would just change their standards

an average dud from today would be a HVM one hundred year ago when most men didn't even graduate elementary school and when their hygiene was awful

serpensmercurialis · 2024-12-03T23:01:46+00:00

Bring back recess (good for everyone, but boys especially need to run off the extra energy) Ditto for PE

Idk where you live, but it never went away in most places. Also I’m not sure why you think boys need to run off the extra energy more than girls.

Make it easier for people to come back to college (or other education) after working for a while.

There are night classes and online programs for this purpose. A lot of workplaces offer college and professional development benefits.

I'm not attached to it being hard physical labor - I'm just trying to think of what late teens / early twenties guys who aren't ready for college might be good at. Historically, a lot of it has been military.

A lot of vets waste their GI bill on for-profit schools and bootcamps because they don’t want to do real college like everybody else for whatever reason.

The problem isn’t that opportunities don’t exist. The problem is that men don’t want to take them and instead choose alternatives.

And as it is, there are a lot men who seem to be on the low education to addiction and or suicide in their forties and fifties pipeline, which is a fucking horror show.

If you have ever observed these people in real life, then you notice patterns, regardless of gender. Sometimes they have a serious mental illness that is the primary issue (bipolar for example). Those people I have a little more sympathy for because it’s difficult to hold someone accountable for their own choices when they’re psychotic. People who have actually experienced major trauma like vets or those severely abused as children I have some sympathy for as well.

But there are a lot of people who simply lack the kind of character that makes a competent adult. They are impulsive, do not think about the consequences of their own actions, do not care about the long-term, blame everyone else when things go wrong, and are very anti-social in general. Addiction is a choice, and almost everyone who blames a drug addiction for their behavior (such as stealing, taking advantage of people, general anti-social acts associated with addicts) is lying. These people aren’t completing college or getting good jobs for the same reasons they’re doing meth and stealing catalytic converters. Fundamentally it is a result of who they are, shaped by both genetics and their environment.

And it is largely anti-social men who are enabling them through gangs and drug cartels, and these are also the people killing each other left and right. I think a better question is why do we enable it on the societal level through cultural approval? Why do we let gangbangers feel anything but shame about their state of affairs? Why are they accepted in their communities? Why is addiction and anti-social behavior glamorized in media? When someone says “girls do better in education because they make better obedient drones for authority” why do we not hear the subtext that a lot of men think formal education is submission? Why are we jumping to the conclusion that the educational system itself is the problem and not the way boys and men are socialized to interact with it? Why are people quick to avoid the fact that they’re making their own choice to lean into individualism and then panicking when they realize they’re not cut out to be self-made underdogs like they thought? Why do we enable the adolescent egocentrism persisting beyond adolescence that is the cause?

I think they’re perfectly capable of acknowledging their mistakes and doing the work to fix themselves if they want to. They have never had more resources and ability to do so in the entirety of human history. Doing meth is just what they prefer.

_weedkiller_ · 2024-12-04T00:53:38+00:00

Bring back recess? Have they stopped that?! Sorry, I’m not American, I understand recess to be what we call “break time” or “playtime” which is between lessons where you can go run about, chill with friends, have a snack. I don’t understand how they could make kids go all day without breaks?

I think mandatory education on healthy relationships would help, psychoeducation and more recreation spaces for people to hang out. There is a really good Youth Club near me, it’s sports facilities, gym, climbing wall, music studio, IT room, hair salon, kitchen, boxing ring, video games, table tennis & garden. We need a lot more places like that I reckon.

Suspicious_Glove7365 · 2024-12-04T01:46:07+00:00

Make abortion legal and easily available to all women. It will be less common for men to be saddled with child support payments. Abortion is a factor that increases an entire country’s wealth.

2024-12-04T04:33:42+00:00

Some form of emotional intelligence course. Men got testosterone and that brings aggression and stupidity. Helping young men learn to deal with these impulsive stupidity will keep a lot of these men out of trouble.

ImaginaryDimension74 · 2024-12-04T07:01:10+00:00

Education: agree with your thoughts and would add that college men accused of sexual assault should be afforded due process, not some kangaroo court.

Job hiring: End affirmative action for women in favor of merit based hiring.

Business: Stop discriminating in favor of women owned business advantages and treat businesses equally regardless of merit.

Selective service registration: Stop discriminating against men and make it gender equal.

Child custody: All states adopt equal presumption of joint custody laws. No automatically favoring mothers as some states still do.

Rape and sexual assault: Get rid of discriminatory definitions in favor of gender equal definitions.

Criminal prosecution: stop going easier on female criminals and punish criminals in accordance with their crime regardless of their sex.

Domestic violence: equally help male victims. No targeting victim resources only for women victims.

Health: Have an office of men’s health, not just an office of women’s health. End women only healthcare mandates. No more using men’s premiums to subsidize women’s healthcare.

Apply Title IX equally to both genders. If it’s a title IX violation for more men to sign up for athletics, the same should apply to women signing up for palates, yoga, aerobics, etc.

Basically, stop discriminating and treat people equally regardless of their sex.

TopShelfSnipes · 2024-12-04T17:49:14+00:00

Was going to add this in another thread, but it's relevant here. Let's start by identifying problems in male upbringing:

Men are not taught how to take care of their health. Men should be going to a urologist, PCP, and dermatologist every year >age 18. Ultrasounds (not ball rubs) should be GCP standard for testicular cancer screenings.
There is a vast difference in how boys learn to deal w/bullying based on parental influence. Boys who are not taught to stand up for themselves have no other avenues to learn this. They are walked over, and the systems in place to protect them often punish victims equally as bullies as a "conflict" and not bullying. Violence is simultaneously shamed within victim spaces and glorified as male strength, keeping weak men weak.
Schools overwhelmingly prioritize rote memorization over active problem solving skills, which puts boys at a disadvantage in learning and access to higher ed. Few outlets for "hands on" energy exist. Things like shop class and home ec (which could easily include financial literacy these days) are relics of the past, despite the fact they should be taught to both sexes.
Healthy male sexuality is shamed, while unhealthy male sexuality is promoted in pop culture. Boys are simultaneously made to be ashamed of erections, discouraged from talking about sex, and look up to 'ladies men', creating a culture of repression and shame where those who break through favor promiscuity and objectifying women. Porn is touted as a "learning tool" for boys, which fosters unhealthy understandings around consent, foreplay/aftercare (or lack of), technique, and building physical trust within intimacy. Female orgasms are overlooked, while male orgasms are looked at as the "endgame" of sex.
Boys are discouraged from masculine behavior by schools, while pop culture encourages them to behave in stereotypically exaggerated opposite ways. "Being a man" is generally reduced sophomorically to 1-Simping, 2-Working hard for money, 3-Working out and being a dick. Without healthy male role models to counteract these narratives, men will adopt an unrealistic, limited view of their masculinity that is counterproductive. Or, they'll find they don't fit neatly into a box, and absent affirmation from a role model, will question themselves throughout the formative years, resulting in insecurities even if they DO find a healthy self-presentation of masculinity in the end.
Boys are taught that sex inherently degrades women and increases the value of men, which causes unhealthy attitudes around virginity, n count, etc. They are made to base their value on the attraction of women and their own n count, which causes stratification that makes men who get late starts in sex/romance fall further and further behind without intervention. In reality, outside of extremes, n counts often matter very little provided a partner is capable of fidelity, which has little to do with n count.
Rejection is made into a big deal and seen as a referendum on male sexuality rather than no big deal. Shitty rom-coms make asking a woman out into some huge nerve-wracking experience than men need to "prepare" for which causes them to attach an unhealthy amount of weight to the outcome. It's seen as "putting one's heart on the line" when it's really just a common occurrence and doesn't matter. Deeper into relationships, one's heart gets "put on the line" way more.
Traditional blue-pill messaging teaches boys to love the girl BEFORE he approaches. This is unhealthy. Traditional red-pill messaging teaches boys to never love the girl and only judge her for what she's doing for him in that moment. Also unhealthy.
Banter and flirting are competely overlooked, never taught in any formal capacity, and are modeled extremely poorly in media in most cases. Rom-coms amplify things like the 'just world fallacy' and 'the geek gets the girl' tropes which give false hope to some men and encourage unhealthy behaviors like putting women on pedestals.

And that's just the half of it. Specific policies designed around correcting these would be quite helpful in terms of addressing men's issues, but would take a generation to implement as most require cultural rewiring and letting that generation grow into adulthood.

Proudvow · 2024-12-05T00:41:00+00:00

Bring back recess (good for everyone, but boys especially need to run off the extra energy)

Ditto for PE

Recess and PE are terrible for weak awkward guys who don't fit in. They were reduced for a reason. Nobody wants school shooters. If these are to be expanded it needs to be in an optional capacity instead of forcing those it doesn't work for into it.

Agreed on the rest.

Specified_Owl · 2024-12-09T19:27:08+00:00

Make college free? Have a social safety net etc. all that crazy "commie" crap that works fine everywhere else.

burneraccountguydude · 2025-01-26T05:37:41+00:00

We need more a focus on blue collar careers. When I went to HS people thought you were stupid if you weren’t going to college. Young men need to go become apprentices or take tech schooling for a few years and join a trade. Most trades are dominated by old men right now, if we do nothing there’s going to be quick a shock when they retire.

Independent-Mail-227 · 2024-12-03T14:02:50+00:00

Removal of every affirmative action policy.

Heavy crackdown on immigration.

Total rework of the school system.

Total rework of how assets are separated during divorce.

Total rework on how child support is calculated.

treadmarks · 2024-12-03T16:48:56+00:00

Ok here's a start, maybe it could be done in the next 4 years:

Cracking down on illegal immigration that is replacing American workers with below minimum wage migrants
Impose tariffs on countries with unfair labor competition
Making overtime pay tax exempt
Withholding federal funds from universities that are indoctrinating far-left ideas

Sound familiar?

Ego73 · 2024-12-03T14:01:52+00:00

Bring constant warfare back. Polygyny appears in societies with a strong shortage of men.

Xeltar · 2024-12-03T14:04:20+00:00

Most of men's problems are the result of the current "men can cry too" and "men should be emotionally vulnerable" narratives. If men remembered how to be manly again, those problems would go away.

So... maybe more male teachers in schools to act as strong authority figures and tell boys to cut the crap when they start acting up. Trying to coddle men just results in them never learning how to make use of the various upsides of being a man, and then when the need arises, they simply don't know how to.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2024-12-03T14:41:59+00:00

This is a micro issue not a macro issue and it’s been one for a while. Here is an excerpt from the novel Fight club written in the 90s

“Remember this. The people you’re trying to step on, we’re everyone you depend on. We’re the people who do your laundry and cook your food and serve your dinner. We make your bed. We guard you while you’re asleep. We drive the ambulances. We direct your call. We are cooks and taxi drivers and we know everything about you. We process your insurance claims and credit card charges. We control every part of your life.

We are the middle children of history, raised by television to believe that someday we’ll be millionaires and movie stars and rock stars, but we won’t. And we’re just learning this fact. So don’t fuck with us.”” -fight club 1996

It’s the same small block of struggling dudes as today.

Each man needs to stop waiting for someone else to do something and do something about thier own situation themselves.

Equal_Connect · 2024-12-03T13:55:09+00:00

I actually dont think anyone can do anything for male problems except the men themselves. Mens problems literally are just not being able to find wives. I truly believe any guy can solve their problem of being lonely by going to the gym and making money. The only legit problem i have being a man is how the left makes us out to all be bad potentially violent sexual barbarians especially if you’re a white guy. Most men are conservatives because conservatives Dont villainize us like how the left do.

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