Men: Can you honestly say most guys you know are attractive?

wtknight · 2025-08-05T23:20:52+00:00

Removed. No internal questions (men asking men or women asking women).

TheGloriousEv0lution · 2025-08-05T20:49:20+00:00

Most guys in my social circles are decent looking and in relationships. Not sure if this is the best indicator since this is entirely dependent on who you know and where you live

Keep in mind over 40% of Americans are obese and both men and women are roughly evenly represented. Most men aren’t good looking but to be fair, most women aren’t either

TempDong · 2025-08-05T21:07:15+00:00

I have only one friend who is currently unattractive and unhygienic. It makes sense given some very sad recent events in his life leading to weight gain, but I'm also helping him get better / back to where he used to be.

He has never demanded that women be attracted to him. He realizes he is unattractive right now, knows he doesn't want a woman who "looks like him" in his current state, and is not dating until he gets back to an attractive, hygienic state.

What I've seen overwhelmingly while dating are relatively physically attractive women with insane standards. For reference, I'm also physically attractive but neither party is "model / celebrity tier". These women have nothing going for them in their lives, shitty jobs, no savings, no hobbies, boring interests (Love Island), no discipline, no aspirations - yet they want a guy who has more than all of that + is incredibly physically attractive. I see an incredible amount of women on dating apps (as an under 30 year old) who's life plan just seems to be stay at home wife to a hot millionaire and to only use other guys for attention.

YogurtclosetOver7446 · 2025-08-05T20:57:49+00:00

I’m a nerd and I know stereotypical nerds, so yea not attractive.

ThyDoctor · 2025-08-05T21:22:19+00:00

Wow -

Just sat here and went through my friend group Men and Woman. Everyone who I'd consider attractive is either married or in a committed relationship. The ones who are constantly looking are either extremely overweight, badly groomed or haven't tried to present themselves in a nice way since I've known them .

For info - 31 years old, friend group very diverse between Church, College friends, and Theater/Comedy scene.

Zabadoodude · 2025-08-05T21:49:38+00:00

Most of the guys I know have a regular fitness routine and all have good hygiene. None are more than slightly overweight. Most don't have too much difficulty getting a gf, though finding one that has both the looks and a personality they would want is difficult for some.

Out of my extended friend group of 10 guys in our late 20's and 30's 4 have relationships they are genuinely happy with (including myself). Of these four, 3 are 6'2+, and all except the tallest guy are fit and muscular.

Melodic_Structure928 · 2025-08-05T22:02:32+00:00

I mean I don't disagree with most of this but how is it any better then a redpill claiming that 80/20 is real.

Women: most men are ugly, trash and not worth dating

Also women: 80/20 couldn't possibly be real and is a figment of a redpillers imagination.

Turns off if you reword some of those talking points a bit blue pilled women suddenly agree.

HammieFondler · 2025-08-05T20:50:09+00:00

Yes. Most men I know dress well, have skincare routines, exercise regularly and are in good shape

BrianMcTill · 2025-08-05T21:04:15+00:00

I only have 3 close friends that are very good looking, they fucked hundreds of attractive women (at 40 still counting), they are tall, handsome, successful, your typical top 5% that every women want (even married ones, they banged a lot of cheaters). My other friends are not good looking, neither me. They only have/had ugly women as a consequence. However what you are saying is a hygiene problem, not sure what type of people you are surrounded with, none of my friends have any issues like that.

I work in IT, it is very rare but I have seen a few funny things. Eg. there was 1 guy, he was that typical IT guy, crooked teeth, very disgusting sense of humour, bit loud but other than that he was ok, very smart and as such he made/makes very good money. Once he stained his collar shirt with coffee and he came in the next day in the same shirt with coffee stain on it :). I am sure he was a virgin until 45 or so but then what a surprise he got together with an average looking thin 40-45 year old divorced women with 3 kids :).

StopTheIncels · 2025-08-05T22:10:19+00:00

Most guys aren't, but when most women say the put more effort into their appearance its almost exclusively style/makeup. Those have their merit, but it is not the limiting factor. I have told both, men and woman that the best thing to do above all else to be more physically attractive is body composition (body fat %/muscle %) and exercise. In this category, men put more effort. I have told countless 'fat/chubby' girl friends that if they just lifted a bit and tracked calories consistently their matches/date quality would skyrocket.

Your kpopmax skincare routine perm ain't gonna out carry 25%+ bf and chubby cheeks. People downplay bodyfat % so much they think 'oh, shredded butterface' but fail to realize that a leaner face regardless of proportions/genetics IS a better looking one than a fatter one.

Also, I have friend who's like 18% bf and fat girls reject him (no it's not his personality - he is 5'3").

Charming_Review_735 · 2025-08-05T21:02:10+00:00

No clue - most straight men are horrendously bad at judging the attractiveness of other men. I feel like I often have the completely inverse view of what's attractive, since any visceral judgments of male attractiveness I have are purely aesthetic, and hence I regard softer and more feminine male faces (the ones you may see in a Renaissance painting) as the most attractive, whereas the more rugged and angular faces - which are supposedly the most attractive - just seem unaesthetic and ugly to me.

But even if I just follow rules like "facial masculinity + height + moderate muscularity + status + low agreeableness + low neuroticism + social skills = attractive", I have no idea where the threshold is for a man to be considered attractive.

I guess I did find one heuristic which seems to work quite well: run a man's face through the faceapp gender swap feature, and the prettier his female version is, the less attractive he is as a man, since a big part of attraction is related to sexually-dimorphic traits (suffice it to say my female form is gorgeous...). But that still doesn't resolve the threshold issue.

Superannuated_punk · 2025-08-05T22:02:18+00:00

I only associate with absolute Chads. I refuse to speak to normies.

Seriously though - my friends are normal-looking dudes with normal-looking girlfriends/wives. How good they (guys or girls) look is mostly a function of how much effort they’ve put in for the occasion.

SurroundWide447 · 2025-08-05T20:45:51+00:00

Most guys don't put in any effort absolutely. Don't know basic fashion, don't get proper haircuts, upkeep with grooming, etc... Women like pretty men so become obsessed with your looks as much as women are

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Spread-Em-Plz · 2025-08-05T21:19:17+00:00

Not really in a general sense.

In my personal circles (mostly people I know from my sport and my work), nah not really. There is the odd attractive guy here and there but most are just average as is to be expected, but that being said I’ve noticed none of my friends are actually ugly barring maybe one or two exceptions of being overweight

My closest/best bro is an absolutely good-looking fella though. He and I are usually among some of the best looking in a given room, albeit he even moreso than me. He’s classically what you guys would consider a “Chad” imo, whereas I’m probably considered a “Chadlite” depending on what you’d classify as one

macdaddy0800 · 2025-08-05T21:33:49+00:00

Yes and the majority of them are in committed relationships and are their looks match.

They provide security, protection and consistency.

DumbWordsmith · 2025-08-05T21:59:43+00:00

All but one of my five closest friends are fit and well-groomed. Right now, the four most attractive ones are either married or single — half and half.

My one and only fat friend has a bunch of GFs every year, but he has very low standards (and he's an alky). The women he dates are physically attractive, but they're also train wrecks with baggage.

Main_Aside_3072 · 2025-08-05T22:20:34+00:00

Most people I know are unattractive.

If I have to be more specific by gender I'd say... 40% of men are attractive, and 50% of women are attractive. That extra 10% is why so many people think "women tend to be more attractive than men"

Former_Range_1730 · 2025-08-05T22:29:26+00:00

Great question. I have an answer that might be worth your while.

Okay, first, I never know how to answer this question because I have no ability to know what a woman finds sexually attractive in a guy. Seriously, and I'm not sure how other hetero guys can judge it, and do so easily.

What I can do, and have done, is be observant enough to understand what kind of guy women tend to go for. And I'll judge it like this...

Take a guy that hetero women want nothing to do with. Fat, dresses like a serious bum, short, looks like he just rolled out of bed. Messy hair. Wearing socks and sandel of slippers every where he goes. Etc.

Now, imagine that guy was a non hetero woman. I've seen many non hetero women, date women who look exactly like this guy. And I mean exactly, even the masculine look. Like as if she could be his twin brother, but very slightly feminine. And these women call them sexy, studs, cute, etc. They're like superstars yet they look the the twin of the guy I just mentioned.

Now, based on that parameter, it shows women don't need someone to look like royalty for them to find them attractive. So women do find a very wide range of people attractive. They find a very wide range of men attractive. The thing is, the men in the top 20% are so desirable to women, that they don't even see the other men. But when you look in areas where pretty much no man is a top 20% guy, and those women have never seen one, they end up being into the best guys they can find in the lower percentage. And they will genuinely find those men attractive.

Not to mention, while it's fun to say gay men only go for good looking guys. No. A guy can look pretty busted and get some man to sit on pretty easily, especially in lower income areas. And a lot of times they'll be attracted to those guys because of the circumstances and who's available.

So yeah, I can honestly say people find most men attractive. But it depends on the context. And people hate to admit it.

Srapture · 2025-08-05T22:51:58+00:00

I would say all my mates are fairly attractive. Hard to tell, really. They certainly don't have dirty nails and greasy hair like you're saying.

Before someone says women should be dating men they aren’t physically attracted to

Are people suggesting this? Can't imagine that working out.

onlyaseeker · 2025-08-05T22:58:24+00:00

I think our society is obsessed with superficial traits, to our detriment.

Women torture themselves and each other to meet impossible standards, and slice and inject themselves because of it.

Men tie their worth in physical training that is neither healthy nor functionally useful, and obtaining status at the expense of contribution.

I've seen women go after people they find attractive, and end up with a string of terrible experience. Or they create terrible experiences because they're too focused on superficial qualities or needs in themselves and others, and not ready or mature enough for a real relationship, despite constantly seeking one.

This is what happens when one allows their impulses to master them, instead of mastering one's impulses.

I'd like guys to take pride in their appearance, not wear clothes that are bad for people or the environment, look after themselves physically, and be in a good place mentally, emotionally, and socially. But not for other people—for them.

petellapain · 2025-08-05T22:58:58+00:00

The tea app leak that showed the women vs the guys they were dragging confirmed this to be a myth. Women are as chopped as men if not more so

0kayz00mer · 2025-08-05T23:05:22+00:00

It's not really about how attractive they are, it's how relatively attractive they are to the women they go for and how well one can discern comparability. I have a 6'+ bodybuilder friend making 150k+ and I don't even find some of the women he goes for attractive because he likes them on the thicker side. Not fat, thick. His physical standards are very reasonable but he struggles with dating because the physical standards tend to not be reasonable the other way around.

UnpredictableDemise8 · 2025-08-05T23:10:55+00:00

Majority of guys i know are average looking (maybe a bit above average if it's a good day). And this goes for women too. It's really rare in my opinion to come across a highly attractive person in my age group. Same goes for the opposite (highly unattractive person). One thing i agree with a lot of women on here is, there is certainly a good amount of guys who don't care about their haircut, grooming or their clothing style. They usually only start to take care of that, if someone directly points it out to them.

KayRay1994 · 2025-08-05T20:56:08+00:00

Yes, my male friends are also hot - and they all seem to be doing pretty well one way or another (some just messing around and others in committed relationships)

Rich-Efficiency3394 · 2025-08-05T21:25:32+00:00

Lol fuck no.

I'm the first one to tell my friends to lose the weight and do some personal grooming.

kvakerok_v2 · 2025-08-05T20:50:27+00:00

Yes, but as a Chadlite I don't befriend uggos, men or women. All the sub 7 men I know (not friends) that aren't celibate are smashing 1s and 2s, I'm talking full body tatted, cheating 3+ kids from 3+ men, clap and other assorted STDs, heavy drug users women.

CommissionAny5421 · 2025-08-05T20:56:27+00:00

It would be difficult for me to really rate people im not attracted to, but I know which of my friends are more attractive by how women treat them.

Parrotsandarmadillos · 2025-08-05T21:17:29+00:00

Most guys I know are either skinny/under muscled or obese so right off the bat that takes them out of the game. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Title	Men: Can you honestly say most guys you know are attractive?
Author	desert__boi
Upvotes	16
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Date	August 5, 2025 8:41 PM UTC (11 months ago)
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