A man who is great at taking care of the house, raising children, will not be valued much for having these traits. Even career-focused women, who in fact benefit the most from having a partner provide these forms of support, rarely value male partners with these traits.
If the man demonstrates these strengths while in a relationship, the woman might compliment him that he is great at domestic work, or would be a great father. But ultimately, instead of making those tasks his main roles in the family which putting his strengths to good use, she likely still expects him to be the family breadwinner.
Sometimes women lament about how their careers don’t matter much to potential male partners because they are willing to date women who earn much less than them. As we can see, this is because men usually look out for how a woman can support him non-financially.\* (In some cases men want power and control over their partners through finances, which is toxic but that’s not my focus here.)\*
The question we should be asking is, why do few women also value men in the same way, and how can we convince them to rethink this?
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