Feminists have a conniption because someone publicized the "he said" side of a major "he said-she said" rape claim

Adrelinen · 2015-02-05T13:42:37+00:00

The most disturbing part about this is that, if you think about it for a bit, Murphy actually WANTS him to be a rapist.

She's not happy that he's NOT A CRIMINAL.

kizzan · 2015-02-05T16:40:11+00:00

Reasons like this are why normal everyday women think feminism is ridiculous.

Fhwqhgads · 2015-02-05T15:40:39+00:00

There must only be "she said". After all, according to the established narrative, a woman can never lie, so what possible reason could there be to listen to his side?

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2015-02-05T19:33:30+00:00

Why talk to both parties when they already got the answer that supported their beliefs?

Turtle_Color_Accents · 2015-02-05T16:50:36+00:00

A man's word against a woman's word is always a lie and doesn't deserve to be published because teh wimminz nevar lii aboot raaype, SHITLORD!! /s

Nomenimion · 2015-02-05T16:00:54+00:00

Their ultimate goal is the utter destruction of our most fundamental rights, including due process and free speech. If they ever fully achieve this, it will be a disaster for women as well as men.

legato101 · 2015-02-05T18:33:28+00:00

I tried to chime in on a thread about general women opinions regarding this issue on askwomen.

One took an issue with my statement of guilt. I was using legal requirements of defining guilt, and one woman basically said it don't matter.

apparently all that is needed to determine guilt is the idea that he could be based on anecdotal claims.

Tmomp · 2015-02-05T20:54:50+00:00

Soon some journalists and editors at mainstream media sources will realize they can make their careers exposing dishonest, ridiculously biased reporting. The Washington Post went to town on Rolling Stone. Ashe Schow at Washington Examiner looks like she's helping her career too.

Why will it happen? Because between Duke, Hostra, UVA, and likely now Columbia, the trend is too obvious to miss.

docalypse · 2015-02-05T18:21:16+00:00

A little late to this discussion in general, but can't this be taken to court for defamation? After all the evidence, he was shown to be innocent. Even after, feminists still proceed to libel and slander his name.

PierceHarlan · 2015-02-06T03:50:49+00:00

The feminists complain this woman, and women who cry rape in general, aren't believed unless they are "perfect" rape victims. This is more straw man than we've seen since Ray Bolger met up with Dorothy on the Yellow Brick Road. Let's be honest, for feminists who write about rape, even raising the possibility that the accused is innocent is enough to elicit cries of misogyny, rape apologia, and victim blaming. The real question for the feminists is this: is it possible for the accused to ever be sufficiently perfect so that his story is worthy of belief? Or is he guilty by reason of penis? Of course he is.

mr_egalitarian · 2015-02-06T07:06:38+00:00

Megan Murphy wrote an article titled, "Can women rape men? I’m not sure I care."

astronomicat · 2015-02-06T03:38:45+00:00

I like the phrase "court of last resort"

Infuser · 2015-02-06T03:47:38+00:00

What they don't seem to understand is that the problem isn't rape convictions; it's rape cases even going to trial. The way our justice system representatives choose to pursue cases is what they should be focusing on. It's lucrative for a DA to pursue a drug arrest on some poor ass minority for a gram of marijuana (where the DEA will also give them a bonus because drug seizure) since it's easy to convict. A rape case where there is a lot of grief, ambiguity, and no government kickback? Not so much.

cue rant

And they need to stop putting emotions before facts because that is NOT social justice at all. Just because you think someone is awful, it doesn't mean you get to abridge their rights, because in doing so you become a monster yourself.

And it's not just issues like this.

Even if there was any evidence against him, can we really say there is a fair trial with that much media attention (e.g. public cases like Casey Anthony, the Ferguson incident), and people pressuring authorities, though they aren't privy to any of the details?

The majority of people that vocalize their opinions don't have critical thinking, nor a sense of introspection.

That being said, rape is especially hard because it's all a grey area. It involves an act that is not intrinsically bad. The treatment of it by zealots is actually kind of offensive, because it implies that sex is intrinsically violent or unwanted, and we can only know it was wanted with super explicit agreement. Because the majority of rapes are not at weapon-point and/or by complete strangers, one simply cannot go in with the assumption that sex is unwanted. Heck, even violent sex can be a grey area with people into BDSM.

So when it comes to rape (and my heart really does go out to those that experienced it), the hard truth is that it will always be difficult to prove one way or the other without going against the spirit of innocent until proven guilty. Really, the biggest steps like past sexual history and clothing choices not being admissible to discredit the accuser, have already been made.

sum_devil · 2015-02-06T01:11:14+00:00

He says that one day we will have a mature discussion about sexual assault. Whatevs dude. Feminists are children. There will never be a mature discussion.

ben0wn4g3 · 2015-02-05T18:16:53+00:00

So what is his story

iMADEthis2post · 2015-02-06T17:19:02+00:00

". . . I want to see yoyououoyou"

“I love you Paul. Where are you?!?!?!?!”

". . . we still haven’t really had a paul-emma chill sesh since summmmerrrr"

Well.. fuck. I must admit I never considered the other side of this myself and while I can't speak in definitives, that really looks like an act of revenge rather than a valid rape.

I'm not actually familiar with her accusations, did she deny being in a relationship with him?

Cysioland · 2015-02-05T18:34:16+00:00

Conniption? More like mental constipation.

remembz · 2015-02-06T20:30:06+00:00

I really wonder why they think/say so. Personal issues?

Doriphor · 2015-02-05T22:43:36+00:00

Using the word conniption makes one sound so snooty. Tantrum... Now there's a good word.

Hanzo44 · 2015-02-05T23:20:32+00:00

Not saying this didn't happen, but this article fails to site any of it's sources, nor does it link to the article it's referencing.

Title	Feminists have a conniption because someone publicized the "he said" side of a major "he said-she said" rape claim
Author	PierceHarlan
Upvotes	826
Comments	127
Date	February 5, 2015 1:37 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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