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[–]uwuwowowuwuPickmeisha™️ 360 points361 points362 points 5 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link
At the risk of sounding like a NLTOG, I have never worn makeup on a regular basis as the feeling of product on my skin really, really irks me. The only products I use on my face is moisturizer and sun screen.
Even so, I've felt societal pressure to wear it on certain occasions (important interviews, weddings, prom). Although they are few and far between, I have caved several times because I don't want the fact that I didn't wear makeup to be the cause of losing an important job opportunity. It's fucked up that this is the way things are, and I feel dirty for having conformed. Anyone who says this kind of expectation doesn't exist is lying to themselves.
[–]abby_ch238FDS Newbie 119 points120 points121 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I’m the same as you, I can’t wear make up bc I become overly aware of anything on my face and feel uncomfortable but at the same time on special occasions I feel so bland compared to others that I want to put it on too. I’ve tried putting just light make up but even then it’s like everyone else seems like they belong and I stand out so I feel like I have to put on just to not ruin the aesthetic of the event, if that makes sense?
[–]uwuwowowuwuPickmeisha™️ 90 points91 points92 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It does make sense! Women are generally more empathetic and social - we pick up on these cues (to be respectful, to fit into the aesthetic, etc) without being told to. And the makeup industry takes advantage of that silent pressure. 😔
[–]hopewingsFDS Apprentice 77 points78 points79 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Same here, always hated makeup, and I just don't wear it. For special events I just go with some tinted lip balm and call it a day. I suppose I can more easily get away with minimal makeup, because I'm a person of color with dark eyes and eyebrows.
Women should know the risks of using cosmetics, too. One of the reasons I continue to not wear makeup after getting a career is because in the U.S., the industry is not regulated.
https://www.ewg.org/the-toxic-twelve-chemicals-and-contaminants-in-cosmetics
[–]uwuwowowuwuPickmeisha™️ 33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yikes, I didn't know about this before but it only cements my views. Thank you for sharing!
[–][deleted] 26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
The unregulated makeup industry is thought to be a factor in the increased rates of dementia/Alzheimer's in older women. Makeup used to contain heavy metals and breathing those particles in is not good for you.
[–]XRozeFDS Newbie 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Omfgggg I’ve suspected this for so long!! Remember how we all learned that women used to powder their faces w like lead (I can’t remember what the actual chemical was) and it made them get diseases and stuff? I’ve always thought we would find out in 100 years how dangerous the cosmetics we use daily now are too
Thank you for this link. I’m going to start telling everyone and I’m never wearing makeup day to day again lol
[–]bunsmoriaFDS Newbie 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for the article! It’s in everywhere omg. Even in shampoo and body wash.
[–]MulticoloredCatMugFDS Newbie 56 points57 points58 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I enjoy skin care stuff, but I’m the same about makeup.
I tried to wear it in middle school but got really bad rashes all over my face and stopped.
I have the same fears- that if I don’t wear makeup for specific events then I’m risking a job or social standing.
[–]ASeaOfQuotesFDS Apprentice 49 points50 points51 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I feel this so much! Also a non-makeup wearer, I just never understood the appeal outside of an art form. I was really getting nervous when I was job searching a few years ago that I lost a particular opportunity because of my looks... but thankfully I landed another job which is fantastic, and I feel relieved every day that nobody gives a crap whether or not I wear makeup.
[–]One-Strength-5394FDS Newbie 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I lost a particular opportunity because of my looks...
How did they tell you that that was the reason why?
[–]ASeaOfQuotesFDS Apprentice 19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It’s hard to describe it, I don’t think I’ll ever know for sure if that was the truth, but I was definitely qualified for the position, had a history at the program from when I was younger that would have boded well as a success story, and I feel like the actual interviewing part went really well!
But when someone looks at you for the first time, you can sometimes catch subtle shifts in their expression and I felt like I saw that. The face falling - “this isn’t what I expected” - moment, even though I went out of my comfort zone in my style and hair, and thought I looked as great as I could have.
Either way it was a blessing in disguise because I have this job now, and it’s much better pay and benefits than that one would have been.
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[–]One-Strength-5394FDS Newbie 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True. Although, it's another thing women are expected to do that men are not that takes up a significant amount of time and that is so unnecessary as a woman (as opposed to menstrual hygiene). Maybe we don't have as much facial hair as them to groom but we do have it.
[–]GlamorKissFDS Newbie 26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love makeup but sometimes when I put it on it doesn’t look how I wanted and then I feel more insecure then I have to wash my whole face off. It’s sad. Sometimes I think I looked cuter without any on too
[–]worriedrenterTWFDS Newbie 19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're not not like other girls by saying this. That just shows how damaging liberal feminism is, they've hoodwinked women into thinking that not only criticising, but simply not performing femininity is an attack on other women.
[–]uwuwowowuwuPickmeisha™️ 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you. I've seen posts that start with "I don't wear makeup" followed by some deep, internalized misogyny and wanted to stay away from that association. Whether or not you like cosmetics, we're all under the same patriarchal-rooted expectations.
[–]Big-Respond8481FDS Newbie 44 points45 points46 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
And the expectation exists, it is awful. We are only free if we wear make up or not how we want and if there is no expectation Not wear it one day, but wearing a full face the next day and be treated with the same respect. I am saying this as someone who loves make up, fashion and beauty.
[–]uwuwowowuwuPickmeisha™️ 85 points86 points87 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Exactly, and don't get me started on men who "prefer women who don't wear makeup". 🙄 As if they are doing us a favor, when they don't even know what not wearing any makeup looks like. As if their individual preferences mattered against the weight of societal expectations.
[–]Big-Respond8481FDS Newbie 37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They do not know that woman actually have dark undereye shadows but would also complain if my concealer is too yellow or too white, becuase I did not find one that matches my skin color exactly. And I swear, men can wear make up too, if they want to cover up blemishes or if they are feeling artsy.
[–]uwuwowowuwuPickmeisha™️ 56 points57 points58 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly, men wearing makeup should be normalized because they need it more than us 😂 Too bad the bar is in hell.
[–]hopewingsFDS Apprentice 53 points54 points55 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Some men genuinely prefer no makeup, but it's really hard to distinguish those from men who are idiots and point to a woman with a full face of makeup as "not wearing makeup."
Also, some of the men who truly prefer no makeup are pedophiles, so there's that.
[–]HhjjuuyFDS Apprentice 50 points51 points52 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
A good chunk as well just happen to be super attracted to women who meet beauty standards naturally. Like really guy? You think the celebrity with clear skin, perfectly shaped pink lips, big eyes, thick lashes and a symmetrical face is beautiful in this well lit photo taken by a professional? Couldn't have guessed.
[–]pickmieshaexorcistFDS Disciple 25 points26 points27 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This was my ex, he’d look down his nose at “basic” women and beauty standards and say he preferred small chests like mine and that he was glad I was different, but guess who he got goo-goo eyes over when he thought I didn’t notice? Always the conventional beauty with makeup and big boobs.
[–]HeroForHire369FDS Disciple 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This isn't related at all to the subject at hand, but your username is hilarious.
[–]AocwannabeFDS Apprentice 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It. Is. Amazing. TM that 😂🤣😂
[–]pickmieshaexorcistFDS Disciple 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks 😊
[–]uwuwowowuwuPickmeisha™️ 20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh no, that last part... 😬
But yeah, there's absolutely nothing wrong with having preferences. I only eyeroll when they state it like they are doing us a favor.
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[–]uwuwowowuwuPickmeisha™️ 21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The feeling of relief when you get to wash it off! 👌
"No thanks, go away!" Love that, I should use it more often.
[–]One-Strength-5394FDS Newbie 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's been some desire to try it out, but I never do because I cannot see the purpose of it so I can't justify the purchase.
I have the desire sometimes as well. I don't really know how to use makeup for various and similar reasons that you've mentioned as to why you don't use it. I tried to use makeup last year for all of two seconds. I got some cheap products from Walmart and some expensive ones from Dillard's and both foundations looked caky. After that I kind of gave up. I didn't want to go through the effort of finding something that didn't look caky. I did keep a couple products like a nice shape of lipstick but I returned everything else.
[–]WnotChooseKindnessFDS Newbie 32 points33 points34 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Right on sis!
I also only wear minimal makeup on very special occasions.
It always confused me that there was even a choice between makeup and creams that actually maintain your skin. As a broke college student, I would go to this mall where they had a big brand of makeup next to a big face cream brand and I would always walk into the latter. If I were to blow through my cosmetic budget it would be to actually maintain my skin rather than spend as much to just pretend it was healthy.
So far, I am still happy with my choice.
[–]uwuwowowuwuPickmeisha™️ 19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same, I have oily skin so I'm careful about keeping it clean and moisturized. And staying away from oily food as much as I can. My friends who do wear a lot of cosmetics actually find it harder to keep clear skin, and have to be very careful about their selection.
[–]SewudFDS Apprentice 78 points79 points80 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What everyone needs to realize is the cost of this. Women and men don't exist equally if women have to spend money on beauty products that men don't have to buy, not to mention the time spent on it every day. It's not a "choice", it's not that women just "like" to spend an extra hour every day to do their hair, it all comes down from the fact that society values women on their looks. To look the part, many women would have to spend lots of money on products, and then for some you'd have to blow out your hair and curl them with a curling iron just to go to work. It places us at a disadvantage compared to men who have that extra money and time available for whatever they want.
[–]Technical_Moth248FDS Newbie 167 points168 points169 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Yes!!! If we’re still judging tf out of and harassing women who do not participate, it’s not really optional. I totally respect that makeup makes a lot of women feel more confident, but there’s probably more to it than you can actually recognize without sitting with it and examining your thoughts.
I didn’t wear makeup on my wedding day and I was getting people just before it started like “Let me throw something on you real quick! You don’t want to regret this!” NOOOO. My late husband thought I was the most beautiful person anyway, and I felt happy with myself. Our pictures are perfect and we look really happy, but I know it made other people frustrated with me. I don’t regret it. My natural face is really pretty and at this point I do feel good about not needing it, but it’s a surprisingly rough and unpopular route even with the women in my life. I guess it is easier to conform, but I just can’t stand it.
[–]GlamorKissFDS Newbie 47 points48 points49 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s not really a choice if we’re getting harassed like that
[–]m00n5t0n3FDS Newbie 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You just gave me such a lovely idea to not wear makeup if I get married!
[–]sashimi_girlFDS Newbie 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just like sex, women have to do just the “right” amount. Too much is embarrassing and extra and who do you think you are? Not enough is sad and old fashioned and boring. We can’t win.
[–]pretty_killFDS Apprentice 135 points136 points137 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men not wearing makeup is normal, but if you see men wear subtle natural make up, it does make them look more attractive. Yet men can go without makeup and be taken completely seriously. A woman risks missing out on job opportunities and promotions. Men and women are both attractive with or without makeup. In an ideal world, it should be personal choice and our character what determines our career choices and likelihood of growth in our careers. Unfortunately this is not always the case.
[–]slayeroftruthFDS Apprentice 41 points42 points43 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agree 100 percent. All women feel this pressure even if they don't have a lot of money. Women who are poor spend quit a bit of money on makeup and general grooming for job.
[–]Guilty_AssignmentFDS Newbie 102 points103 points104 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Same goes for shaving
[–]phiksirhoFDS Newbie 40 points41 points42 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
ugh. yeah. I was running late for a flight this morning and felt guilty for not shaving my legs... As if it should matter at all if my legs meet some sexy ideal
[–]_NotWellBitchThrowaway Account 54 points55 points56 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
completely agree. in a vacuum i don’t mind my leg or armpit hair, but i shave it so i don’t stand out.
however, i completely hate my pubic hair and feel ugly with it. this is learned and not my choice at all. i’m getting laser so i don’t have to deal with shaving to look “acceptable” in a bikini, but i am not doing it for me at all. i’m doing it because i feel like i have to.
[–]sashimi_girlFDS Newbie 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s at a point where it’s not really optional, unless you wear high waisted underwear I feel like I HAVE to maintain my pubic hair or it’s all hanging out :(
[–]endorphins_FDS Newbie 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The only reason I shave and wax is because I can’t deal with the itchiness when it grows back so I’m stuck in this cycle
[–]Charming-Bee-2337 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you let it grow out fully it doesnt itch at all.
[–]ProtoetypeFDS Newbie 60 points61 points62 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In tip based payment Jobs like server here in the USA if you don't wear make up you don't make as much money. You also won't get HIRED at many jobs if you interview with no makeup on.
[–]randowordgeneratorFDS Newbie 52 points53 points54 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I love tv police procedurals with the actor's tits falling out. That not how forensics work! Running in hi heels wtf
[–]ketodietclubPickmeisha™️ 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That not how forensics work!
The flowing hair in the lab and at crime scenes is what gets me...
[–]thinktwiceorelseFDS Newbie 54 points55 points56 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I stopped wearing make up, even to job interviews. It irritates my eyes, and I generally feel very uncomfortable wearing make up, especially during a day. When I feel uncomfortable, I'm very anxious. If I'm anxious, my performance is very poor. I sometimes envy men, because they just put clothes on and go. I'm fine with make up if it it's for party, concert or any evening/night event. I hate that we have to wear make up.
[+]HeroForHire369FDS Disciple -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I hate that we have to wear make up.
We don't...? What jobs are you referring to? There are select positions that I can see, silently or not, enforcing that shitty standard, but I have never had that issue in my entire career life. It has literally never even crossed my mind up until a few weeks ago when I saw this topic floating around, because I guess I never paid attention to it. I don't shave, either, and have my hair very, very short. I am aware that I work in male dominated fields, but even in retail or working with very small children, which is usually dominated by very performatively-feminine women, I have never had that issue.
I honestly don't even remember if I wore makeup to prom or not. Maybe some eyeliner or mascara? I wore a pretty figure forming dress, but I refused to put on heels and wore flats or something, mainly because I didn't want to roll and ankle, followed by being extremely uncomfortable, as flats are annoying enough. I've never once worn makeup to a wedding. I vaguely remember having makeup put on me when I, for whatever ungodly reason, decided to do cheerleading for a year or two in middle school (quit the second year) but after that I refused it. I didn't even like the shaving being socially enforced in that sport, and often just genuinely forgot. I was more ostracized by the girls on my team than boys.
I might be different, and this is at the risk of sounding NLTOG, because I actually loved getting hair starting around five years old when I noticed leg hair, underarm hair following that, and was upset when being told I would have to start shaving it later when I was around 4th grade or so. I was also a tomboy to the absolute extreme, so that probably has a whole lot to do with it.
After over a decade of pretty much never wearing makeup, save for random eyeliner or mascara, I would actually feel more self conscious wearing it, and I have (pretty seasonal at this point in my life, heat with humidity makes it flare) cystic acne, as well.
[–]thinktwiceorelseFDS Newbie 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
I don't know if that helps, but I'm from Eastern Europe, so it's little different here. While it's not officially required to wear make up, we have to attach our photos to CVs, and if they don't like our appearance, we simply won't hear from them again unfortunately.
[–]HeroForHire369FDS Disciple 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Ah, I usually assume most people here are western of some sort. More oppressive cultures I have much sympathy for. I personally can't imagine what it is truly like, and it is because of that I do not want to know in its entirety because I hate suffering, I just appreciate my own freedom that I was lucky enough to be born into solely based off of geographical location.
Western women have no excuses, it makes zero sense for a western woman to complain about makeup and continue to wear it anyway. Organize or some shit (not you specifically, in general) and pledge to refuse to wear it. Do it on an individual level and watch the women around you get the seeds planted in their heads, watch some of them change and the ripple effect occur. The circle jerking of oppression but doing NOTHING to fix it such as not wearing make up gets old- doing the same shit over and over and being upset with the same results is just bullshit. Western women's foremothers were abused, beaten, arrested, raped, KILLED, some or all of the above, for Basic. Human. Rights... and the people here, those who are western individuals, can't even stop wearing makeup and will use every excuse in the book to keep doing it. Lmfao.
Women are their own worst enemies, the most privileged of privileged will continue their own oppression and be upset when they're called out on their crap after choosing to participate in said oppression such as performative femininity. The people here need to grow a damn backbone, it's nauseating at this point.
[–]thinktwiceorelseFDS Newbie 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I know what you mean, I stopped wearing it, even though it means I've been unemployed for a while. I don't wanna give up.
[–]HeroForHire369FDS Disciple 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
You have more grit, determination, and strength than all western women in this thread combined that make excuse after excuse after excuse. As much as a stranger can properly convey feeling for someone else's situation and let the emotion actually show, I am sorry that you're in such a shitty predicament, and I resent the entire situation. I do wish that there was a way that I could genuinely assist you, but I do not even know where to begin to help people in actual oppressive cultures; it's difficult to get women to get their shit together in the NW hemisphere. There will never be actual female solidarity, and it's something that I've accepted. It is why I just do my own thing with feeding into male benefit as minimally as absolutely possible and forget about the rest. They do not want to hear about it, as long as they have the most microscopic sliver of hope that they can change the way things have been for thousands of years by fucking the best they can find out of the rubble in front of them they will continue to do it. Men have literally admitted over and over and over that ceasing said fucking would change things, but dick, even "HV" dick, is not worth giving up. You would think that it would be the most common sense option at this point in time as thousands of years, and even typical male behavior among animals and other organisms, which we love to insist that we are and are taught so in schools here, is enough evidence of that; we have never been at a better point in history to snatch that opportunity up like a twenty dollar bill off the ground, but it won't happen. This sub would be more beneficial for those that have literal or close to literal no choice but to pair up with a man, or else be in destitute or at risk of violence and death, instead it's mostly populated by memes that go on about how trash men are and venting about it.
[–]pinkcityscapeFDS Newbie 35 points36 points37 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I still like makeup (prefer skincare much more) but I’m not blind to the reasons why I wore it especially in my pick me days. I think being defensive about it and parading it as ‘empowering’ is counterproductive...
[–]luvmyvulvaxoxoFDS Apprentice 146 points147 points148 points 5 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Oh god thank you.
Cling to your winged eyeliner and desire for Botox all you want ladies. Just fucking recognize you’re participating in the patriarchy.
Why do you think it “makes you feel good”???
[–]fdssavedmylifeFDS Newbie 39 points40 points41 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly. I sporadically participate in beauty culture, but I’m not about to pretend that wearing makeup or obsessing over our skin or shaving our entire bodies is some kind of privilege women have that men don’t. All men are “allowed” to participate, but only women are expected to engage in these behaviors. Men can wear makeup whenever they want. They could use concealer at the very least and no one would be able to tell. Even if it were noticeable, who would have a problem with it? Oh that’s right, other men.
[–]luvmyvulvaxoxoFDS Apprentice 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh yea, I participate in beauty culture too. I'll wear makeup to a wedding. I was my legs when it's hot.
But I admit why I'm doing it. I don't pretend it's a random drug that makes me feel good and has absolutely nothing to do with societal expectations.
It feels good because you get positive reinforcement from it. Even if no one says "I love your makeup", you see women getting complimented who are obviously wearing makeup.
Women feel good when they conform to beauty standards because we're held to those standards. You can't pretend that your good feeling comes from within. It just don't.
[–]freelancepsychicFDS Newbie 61 points62 points63 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I used to be friends with a woman with the worst self esteem on the planet. She also had so much work done on her face, that by 28 she looked 36. She also lied about getting work done (our mutual friend told me she lied) which just made it even worse. Her whole existence was to please men. Her and another woman were always slut shaming sex workers, then after the pandemic started, I found out they were both on only fans lol
I don't care what people do with their body, I just simply observe and take note of the BS I see lol
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[–]luvmyvulvaxoxoFDS Apprentice 38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
One of the most popular guys at my high school was a guy who had facial scarring, odd facial proportions, and speech issues because of a birth defect.
So fuck off with your attitude.
Civilized people aren’t rude to those we don’t find attractive.
[–]luvmyvulvaxoxoFDS Apprentice 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So you think the fix of surgery is OK? For who? Who meets the "unattractive" test. Someone with an obvious deformity? Someone with thin lips? Someone with characteristics typical of their race?
But if you saw a really naturally unattractive person without makeup
This is ABSOLUTELY bullshit. You can see how makeup changes a way a person looks in real life. Social interaction isn't just about Instagram.
If I see someone with makeup caked on I'm going to think that person is insecure - regardless of their natural beauty. If I see an unattractive person I'm not going to avoid them like the plague. I'm going to interact with them like any other person.
I have met tons of people I was initially attracted to and after talking to them I couldn't stand them. I've also met tons of people who I found unattractive and eventually found attractive.
Your whole opinion sounds juvenile. Attraction isn't limited to facial symmetry. And makeup can't fix a crooked face.
[–]Charming-Bee-2337 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Speak for yourself, thats really judgmental and rude and screams that youre insecure yourself. People cant control how they were born looking.
[–]BluefoxcrushFDS Newbie 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same. When I went from a tomboy to presenting femme, my interactions with people changed rather dramatically. I got more attention from clerks, more people hitting on me, and so on.
[–]deep_faked_beansFDS Newbie 53 points54 points55 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I don't wear makeup, but I think it can be rebellious based on how it's worn. Like really striking makeup, that kind that makes men say 'i PrEfeR NatUrAl MaKEuP' and probably not what a woman working at a front desk would wear. I think that kind of makeup is really about self expression, not like just covering spots and blemishes.
[–]Charming-Bee-2337 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. Recently men have been bashing women for being "fake" and "unnatural" for wearing glam makeup and they say they prefer humble women who wear no/minimal makeup, thats when I started loving glam makeup lol. They perceive women who wear glam makeup as high maintenance
[–]GodILoveTheEnglishFDS Newbie 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree. I especially like fun lipstick colours. Blue, green, black! And a lot of men I’ve encountered hate them, that’s a bonus!
[–]HostileovariesFDS Apprentice 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I still play around with makeup at home, truly for myself, but when I do I tend to go for some out there looks. I see it as more painting the canvas of my face rather than trying to look a certain way for anyone.
[–]wackdemarcoFDS Newbie 37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
this more applies to the "natural look" which solely exists to conform to patriarchal beauty standards as opposed to the more outlandish, artistic and high fashiony looks.
[–]Waste-WinFDS Newbie 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, indeed, I mean everyone wants to look their best but why is only woman that need are expected to wear make up every single time.
[–]505ithyFDS Newbie 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I used to detail cars in New Mexico. Which means cleaning dirty cars in over 100 degree weather and some girls would still wear a full face to work.
[–]moumerinoFDS Newbie 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
While I do agree with this, women also get shamed for wearing makeup. I don't think it's the makeup, it's more that men will criticize women for pretty much anything.
So, like, do whatever you like with you face, as long as you're doing it for you.
For me, personally, not wearing makeup was a "not like the other girls" thing. I have since embraced makeup, and while I still only wear it for special events, I am happy that I have gotten better at it and I really enjoy the self expression and feeling pretty!
[–]Pulled_An_LBJFDS Newbie 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This past year with covid stopping outside life, I started to realize what I do for me vs for others. I definitely only use lotion and eating well and exercise and lip gloss for myself. The rest, not so much.
[–]_queeeen_FDS Newbie 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I wear makeup 95% days. Usually minimal feature-enhancing looks. Sometimes bright colors because they’re fun.
Yes, at home. Yes, during the pandemic. Yes, when I’m not going to see anyone else.
I like makeup. I realize that the reasons I ended up trying and liking makeup might not be benign. At this juncture in life, I don’t care. I enjoy it and I’m going to keep wearing when I’m alone and in public.
[–]Waste-WinFDS Newbie 26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's ok that you enjoy it the problem is that women just can't decide not to wear make uo in some situations like front desk jobs, because sometimes is even a policy of the company which is crazy.
[–]134340-92494FDS Apprentice 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I definitely am in the same boat. Not only that, but people-regardless of gender-are just so much nicer to me when I have it on. I can understand objections to the principles associated with wearing makeup, but I’m not going to stop wearing it anytime soon, as I really just don’t see why I can’t continue to peacefully enjoy it.
[+]Sekina7FDS Apprentice -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same x
[–]2020naFDS Newbie 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wear it because they can't. Trust me, they wish they had freedom to dress themselves up as much as we do without criticisms. Though my choices doesn't excuse the societal pressure of wearing makeup.
[+]sweetnsaltyanxietyFDS Newbie -7 points-6 points-5 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I wear makeup because a flipping want to. I like it the same reason I like to draw and paint. It’s a form of expression. I work from home and most days only see my daughter but I still will put makeup on daily because I LIKE IT. Frankly I’m kind of shocked at all the negativity toward it and those who wear it by this sub. Do better, y’all.
[–]Charming-Bee-2337 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
People are allowed to criticize something, if you feel like its an attack on you then thats on you. Coming from someone who wears makeup. Its a valid conversation for women to have, do better.
[–]sweetnsaltyanxietyFDS Newbie 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So people are allowed to criticize something, as long as it isn’t someone criticizing them? Got it. 🙄
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[–]Subject_TicketFDS Newbie 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
From another comment: "This more applies to the "natural look" which solely exists to conform to patriarchal beauty standards as opposed to the more outlandish, artistic and high fashiony looks."
The women on this thread are not stupid. We know what type of make up we're pressured to wear compared to a more artistic avant garde look that would turn off LVM.
[–]fleuretpommeFDS Newbie 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No I get that, but the people in this thread are wholly incapable of nuance on this topic and are using sweeping generalizations. Someone was literally decrying someone as a LVW for wearing eyeliner.
Not to say there aren't situations where women are expected to wear it, but simply liking it for ourselves is not an issue. I don't see much of a difference in playing into it and making choices to line up to be counter-culture to what men like, if that makes sense. It's still centering men's opinions in women's lives and is LV behavior. Like, oh men like this? then I won't wear it. Like girl, wear what you like for yourself.
[–]dameagaceeFDS Newbie 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
If I had one buck every time someone told me "why you don't wear makeup? You would look gorgeous" I could probably buy a RV.
Why the f*ck I would want that? I (unfortunately) look like a manic pixie girl with a huge chest, I have enough LMV/NVM running after me no need to add more
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