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[–]mensmod[M] [score hidden] 4 years ago stickied comment (13 children) | Copy Link
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[–]ramao__ 739 points740 points741 points 4 years ago (231 children) | Copy Link
it's ok to mutilate a child so that his penis will "look nicer", and yet when a man says that some vagina looks ugly, hellfire rains upon him.
[–]michaelbleu 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wasn’t there a comedian that said a vagina looks like a bucket of foreskins anyways?
[–]Slikdijit 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Joe rogan lol
[–]tipying_mistakes 77 points78 points79 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cake day 🗿
[–]uwukitty666 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
genuine question (not hating at all and u. an correct me) does circumcision have benefits? like health benefits?
[–]throwaway726483916 48 points49 points50 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
there are some few links to circumcision and better health, but that's mostly attributed to the fact that families who have enough money to circumcise also have enough for better food, healthcare, etc.
Like how taller people are more likely to make more money; their parents needed money to feed them enough, and money begets money.
[–]Average_Redditard69 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Shit is expensive? Fuck they cut my shit off for free when I was a newborn, must've had the hoodie collector as my doctor or something I guess
[–]throwaway726483916 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
(disclaimer: all of this is American stuff) the only times they're free are in either with good insurance, or the odd hospital, maybe Christian ones. If you don't, the top costs for it are anywhere from $150-$400, depending on state and hospital. Few hundred dollars for a largely cosmetic surgery, I don't know what that could be called but disposable income.
[–]bluechair01 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There are three supposed benefits that have been debunked to hell and back. 1. no smegma 2. reduced risk of HIV and cancer 3. no complications such as phimosis
First one is simple, we don't cut our skin off so we don't have to deal with acne. Second one, first is only a 0.06% reduction to the chances of catching HIV, which was purposely skewed by circumfetish doctors in the middle of bumfuck nowhere teaching their circumcised group all about safe sex, second we don't cut our skin off so we don't get melanoma. Third one, 99% of cases of phimosis can be cured by daily stretching and most of the 1% can be cured simply with a steroid cream prescription from your General Practitioner. The less than 1% who need surgery don't need something as invasive as regular circumcison
[–]Fearless-File-3625 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No
[–]FatFingerHelperBot 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
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[–]datboi3637 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
basically no
[+]bajeebles -299 points-298 points-297 points 4 years ago (202 children) | Copy Link
Some vaginas just look gross. However, all dicks look gross.
[–]Sbidl 95 points96 points97 points 4 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link
all dicks look gross
I think yours looks nice
[+]bajeebles -99 points-98 points-97 points 4 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for your opinion
[–]Zubecci 75 points76 points77 points 4 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link
I love how you're allowed to feel like the morally superior one here, when all you're doing is body shaming.
[+]bajeebles -56 points-55 points-54 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
I find all dicks to be unattractive and gross. Where do YOU see body shaming at? Is it body shaming to say I don’t like fat women? You can’t just throw buzzwords around if they don’t make sense you buffoon.
[–]aarkhaelias 53 points54 points55 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Where is the body shaming you ask? You mean calling all dicks unattractive and gross, that's body shaming.
[–]bajeebles -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That isn’t body shaming, and you arguing in bad faith won’t change that fact.
[–]aarkhaelias 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How do you define body shaming then? What, to you, counts as body shaming?
And seriously, saying I'm arguing in bad faith doesn't make it so. Give me a reason that I, who just entered this discussion, am arguing in bad faith
[–]bajeebles -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
You can literally google what body shaming is and it’ll tell you it is targeted. I’m not targeting anyone. I merely stated a blanket opinion of mine.
[–]aarkhaelias 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you were to say "all fat people are ugly" that would not be body shaming, to you? Since it is not targeted?
[–]bajeebles 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I guess I should have been more specific in my usage of targeted. I mean to say targeted towards someone specifically. If you were to pull up an ig post of an overweight person, and then called them fat and ugly, I’d say it’d be bodyshaming in that instance.
Edit i double posted
[–]Busy-Argument3680 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
You’re targeting the male gender*
[+]bajeebles -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Not true. Not all men have penises, bigot.
[–]michaelbleu 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah, classic “its not my job to educate you” tumblr 101
[–]Dry-Pianist1853 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah fat women are disgusting
[–]lookathismonkey 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Technically it is, but not all body shaming is bad or uncalled for.
[+]bajeebles -55 points-54 points-53 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What are you talking about, moral high ground? I shared my opinion in an echo chamber and suffered the consequences. Also idgaf if you think my opinion is some madeup hate attack. You can suck my cock, if you want.
[–]No-Satisfaction-2320 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can suck my cock, if you want.
How can I do that if I can't even see it?
“Suffered consequences.” Are you sad that this group that tries to create body positivity for men took away your fake internet points because we doesn’t like when you call male anatomy ugly? You are in a male space, would you go into a female space and call vaginas ugly and play the victim when the same thing happens?
[–][deleted] 77 points78 points79 points 4 years ago (77 children) | Copy Link
Strongly disagree. I’ve seen some absolutely beautiful dingalings while browsing dirty sites. Purely accidental of course.
[+]bajeebles -82 points-81 points-80 points 4 years ago (76 children) | Copy Link
Must be partly bisexual then. Congrats!
[–]TheDraconianOne 48 points49 points50 points 4 years ago (47 children) | Copy Link
And?
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[–]Femboy_Of_The_Lake 39 points40 points41 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
No one here hates women. And any gay or bi people here likely already know they're gay or bi, are you just trying to be a bigot?
[–]TheDraconianOne 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link
Why do I hate women lol? And I’m bi thanks, but keep being some homophobic woman, and get some bitches ❤️
[–]Ender01o 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
they are maidanless
[–]TheDraconianOne 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A maidenless maiden
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[–]VeteranOfDepression 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And every female. Much, much more than men.
Jeez, you're so strange. So many replies and insults for so little reason. Like 4 replies to one comment, I don't think you're thinking about what you're saying you're just doing it out of anger
[–]Ender01o 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
so, you're a TERF? alright then
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[–]TheDraconianOne 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You sound like a very angry, sad person
Also, you’re on this sub, you must hate women by your logic :)
[–]Ender01o 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yep, she hates wamen confirmed xD
[–]lookathismonkey 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, they do not. They are not even close to the same.
[–]aarkhaelias 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No said anything about women. You're replying to someone who simply said "And?" in response to a comment that said "Must be partly bisexual then. Congrats!".
How does saying "And?" give you the idea that he hates women? Or that he secretly loves cock and hasn't come to terms with it, even though you have no idea what his sexuality is (when you made said comment)?
imagine if the person saying and? was female, then she'd look even more of a fool
[–]BurgerBumhole 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like your a little insecure in your sexuality and are targeting other men with internalized homophobia and misandry.
[–]bajeebles -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Where do you see homophobia or misandry? You’re just throwing out buzzwords to try and hop on the bandwagon 6 hrs later. Get a life bro 🤣
[–]BurgerBumhole 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Hm I wonder where this deflection and need to bash bash people on the internet is coming from?🤔
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[–]Glittering_Thought35 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Maybe you are also a closeted lesbian. I was never disgusted by a soft uncircumcised cock. wtf
[+]s_slayer -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hmm I don’t think so. It’s just an ugly thing that’s all. Nothing beautiful about it, I don’t imagine my vagina is beautiful either? But we sure as hell feel incredible when we bump uglies.
[–]Glittering_Thought35 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"beautiful" isn't the word I would use for any genitalia. But not being able to LOOK at a soft penis is weird, at least assuming you are an adult.
[–]bajeebles -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It shows. I don’t have a problem with it and never implied I did.
[+]bajeebles -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
I think i agree with that. Like it’s literally not a problem to me, but if you find dicks pretty and like looking at them idk what to tell you besides you’re bi
[–]Scrytheux 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Not only you can find things looking good without sexualising them, but also liking one part of human body, doesn't mean you're into that gender. You can be into women with dicks and that still doesn't make you gay. There was even a study on that matter, lol.
[–]aarkhaelias 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
You seem to think that aestheic attraction and sexual attraction must always be one in the same, which is untrue.
Aestheic attraction can and does exist without sexual attraction.
[–]jmcsquared 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Tell that to my wife and watch her unleash hell on you lol.
[–]Gethelpplea 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Okay so, let me get this straight, there are two unknown people Here being straight up weird and rude a bit as we try to explain how circumcisions isn't good. Yet, they come here and explain a different thing that makes shit sense, calls most of us gay, even though we all have a preference in genitalia. And then just straight up be rude. Either you two calm down and try to be human and not annoying. Or you leave. Easy.
[–]jmcsquared 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How exactly was I being rude? I was attempting to make a point, while trying (and clearly failing) to be humorous while doing it.
I honestly don't care if you think I'm rude, I'm not the one who started bashing the aesthetics of male sexuality on a circumcision post.
[–]bajeebles -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He meant to reply to me
[–]Gethelpplea -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was not speaking to you buddy, you're fine. Let's bury this argument right now alright ?
[–]bajeebles -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Stfu hbd
[–]Gethelpplea 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Sure the day you'll learn how to not cause trouble online because right not you aren't helping at all.
[–]bajeebles -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
How am i causing trouble? I literally said I thought dicks looked gross, then people started verbally attacking me. What the fuck did I do to deserve that?
[–]Gethelpplea 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm not gonna judge your opinion but the fact it is a post about circumcision your opinion might have gone wrong and we thought yeah, you're in for that because un-circumscised dicks are gross.
[–]bajeebles -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I think circumsized dicks look gross, too. I’ll take your opinion into consideration though.
[–]Gethelpplea 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
And I'll take yours into consideration, it is your personal opinion, however would you circumscise your child out of your opinion, or will you let him. Choose later when he's grown ?
[–]bajeebles -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Fair to her, I’m sure she’s loved a couple of cocks before.
[–]jmcsquared 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean, she wasn't a virgin when we met. And she's straight. So.... yeah.
[–]Femboy_Of_The_Lake 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
As a bi guy, you are very, VERY wrong!
[–]bajeebles -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I’m bi too. People can have differing opinions, and I’m of the opinion that all dicks look gross. You gonna get mad at me too?
[–]horonlapsi 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
how can you be bi then if you dont like dicks doesnt make sense
[–]bajeebles -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I like the male form. I sometimes watch gay porn. I’ve been intimate with men before. I don’t have to like dicks to be bi.
[–]horonlapsi 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
im guessing you dont like to suck it then?
[–]bajeebles -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I think you’d be right. I haven’t tried though.
[–]horonlapsi 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
if you dont want anything to do with penises youre not bi
I didn’t say I don’t want anything to do with penises, or cis men for that matter. You’re changing my words. Not cool. Anyway, I’m sure I don’t have to explain this to you but sexuality is a spectrum ranging very far and wide. It encompasses a lot of different likes and dislikes, attractions and distractions. I’m a bisexual man.
[–]Max_Schmidt350 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
If you're a male then you're a really sad person with no self-esteem, but if you're a woman I have only one question : - are you a lesbian ? Because you sound like a lesbian feminist lol
[–]bajeebles -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lmfaoooooo i clicked on your profile for a second and got all the info i needed. Do not reply to my comments anymore.
[–]Max_Schmidt350 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You sound quite insecure and unable to hold a conversation or a debate, I wouldn't bother myself with even replying beyond this reply
[+]bajeebles -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What on earth are you talking about? I’m a bisexual man, so please stop projecting your inward feelings onto me.
[–]Max_Schmidt350 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not projecting anything, I'm merely stating my observation
[–]ThiccBoyChampa 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Its the other way around, some dicks look gross (alot look really nice), however all vaginas look gross af, they literally look like roast beef.
[–]bajeebles -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Yeah well I’m a hungry boy and that roast beef sandwich looks mighty delectable right now.
[–]ThiccBoyChampa 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Lmao omg 🤦🏼
[–]EdziePro 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
🤡🤡🤡
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Just say you’re lesbian and move on
[–]bajeebles -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Just say you’re a neo-nazi and move on. HH
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was one when I created this username 2 years ago, but now I can’t change it which is why I still have the 88 in my username. I’m not a “neo-Nazi” anymore though, I’m an unapologetic masculinist who fights against anti-male feminazism and misandry.
[–]neighborhood-karen 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
May be an unpopular opinion but all genitalia look gross. It feels like they aren’t meant to be on the human body. Genitalia looks almost alien
[–]luminenkettu 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
that's cuz we aren't exposed to them 24/7 due to clothing
[–]neighborhood-karen 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah probably
[–]oneandonlyA 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Idk there’s science to beauty and it seems vaginas/penises look way more messy and random than other body parts, perhaps with the exception of ears.
[–]bajeebles -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Fr it wasnt always weird when you only had your untrimmed pubes to shield your man/womanhood from prying eyes
[–]Billy-Batdorf 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
lol ur pp is smaller than ur pubes
[–]bajeebles 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
When flaccid, and assuming I have a caveperson bush, then yes.
[–]Potato-with-guns 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
As someone who has a cave person bush, even in my most flaccid state, it is very easy to see my manhood.
[–]austin101123 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I really like the way mine looks
[–]oneandonlyA 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Always thought the same. Never met someone else that would agree with me on this. I get butts (not the asshole) and tits, they can look nice, soft and minimalistic. Lots of vaginas look like open wounds and most penises look weird af.
[–]tipying_mistakes 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Like a mutated bratwurst mushroom
[–]bajeebles -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You for real? It’s a sex organ. We need it on the human body. Also I find that most vaginas I like looking at, but that’s probably my sexuality speaking.
[–]austin101123 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Are you at least lesbian or something? It's sad to think that.
No. I said what i am in other replies in this thread though. It isn’t sad for me, I just don’t like how they look.
[–]Starmind0 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
You need to fuck off babe. If you're saying that just because you're not into male genitals, aka a straight man or a lesbian woman, you can say that normally without body shaming. Clearly tho you're merely a dumb misandrist who just wants to attack men. Targeted. Get the fuck out of this sub, cunty.
A dumb misandrist who wants to attack men. LOL. You’re attacking me and you don’t know anything about me lol
[–]Starmind0 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Oh sorry, forgot that I need to know about your whole life and your existence's purpose to acknowledge or judge your sentence that calls men's natural genitals disgusting. Fuck off, misandrist.
What about that is misandry? I don’t like dicks, and I stated that in an opinion. You’re raging hard and it’s starting to scare me 😳
[–]Starmind0 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If you had any respect for men and their bodies, you would have never even thought of the word "disgusting". Defending your bullshit body shaming with "oh well I'm not into dicks" is not valid at all hon. Clearly you're one of those oafs who claim to be bi but have so much against men.
[–]bajeebles -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I literally don’t have anything against men. You’re summoning these ideas. I don’t care about respect or bodies, I stated a personal preference, you lost your mind.
[–]Starmind0 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Say the same about your racial preference.
What do you think my racial preference is, knowing nothing about me as you do?
[–]kursdragon 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Naw some cocks look amazing, sorry you're stuck with an ugly one buddy, hole.you can find some solace in your disgusting cock :(
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[–]kursdragon 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not but thanks for your concern :) I'm unsure why you would even think it would be appropriate to try to tell someone what their sexuality was? Did you think you think you were making some sort of intelligent comment by stating that?
[+]bajeebles -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
You’re seriously projecting and it shows. Good attempt at ragebait however.
[–]kursdragon 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Projecting what? I think my dick looks fantastic and tbh it legit turns me on, but again sorry you hate yours. Also it's funny you say I'm projecting when I'm the one who says dock look great? You're the one holding the opinion that they're all nasty, which of anything screams of you projecting. You're projecting again brother :)
[–]kursdragon 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lmao wait maybe I'm missing something what about my comment was gay? You realize what being gay is and isn't right? Thinking a cock looks good doesn't make one gay anymore than a gay dude thinking boobs look good would make them straight. Gay means you're attracted to men, you can think dicks look good without being attracted to men, the same as you can think biceps look good without being attracted to men.
[–]kursdragon 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Anti woman sub? Is having people advocating for men's rights somehow anti woman? Lmao I feel sorry for whoever has to put up with your misandry
[–]bajeebles -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
You must have some serious developmental issues to think I’m gonna bother reading or further engaging with you. ;P
[–]TheDraconianOne 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Looks like you further engaged by responding to them lol
What are you talking about?
[–]TheDraconianOne 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
‘I’m not gonna bother further engaging’ As you respond to tell them so, which is further engaging them lmao
Lol outside of the trolling aspect, you DO realize “further engaging with you” could in fact imply any kind of discourse directly after I made that comment, right? Or you couldn’t find any way to paint me as a bigot, so now you want to try to trigger me like every other soy here?
[–]ocket8888 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
people are coming down on you real hard for this opinion wtf
I struck a nerve. I’m not bothered though.
[+]Scrufalopagus -41 points-40 points-39 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
its not "mutilating" a child its cutting off a tiny piece of skin. Why do you even care
[–]BlueCosmog 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
because the """tiny piece of skin""" is the most sensitive fucking part of a penis.
[–]notacrackheadofficer 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What percentage get mutilated in botched operations?
Thousands per year.
[–]ImNotAPersonAnymore 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Maybe yours is tiny. It’s as long as your erect penis, after all.
[–]ImNotAPersonAnymore -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Excuse me? My comment was quite educational.
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[–]ImNotAPersonAnymore -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Can I hear what your actual criticism is?
[–]DrummerElectronic733 272 points273 points274 points 4 years ago (35 children) | Copy Link
I was very surprised when I learned it’s so common in the states regardless of religion. I’m from the UK though and we have FGM occurring here too but it’s odd one is normalised 🤔
I’ve never been ‘unclean’ in 30 years what is so hard about using soap 😂
[–]ShaidarHaran2[S] 127 points128 points129 points 4 years ago* (24 children) | Copy Link
It's weird how some cut people justify it. I've never had an issue staying clean either because you know I shower. And the foreskin is very erogenous and a world of sensation on its own, I find it hard to get off without involving it.
[–]mountingconfusion 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
The reason it started as a non religious practice in the US is because some people convinced others that it would reduce sensitivity so they would masturbate less. Enough people did it for long enough to become a standard practice.
[–]bluechair01 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It wasn't some people it was that fucking bastard Kellogg who used every trick in the fucking book to plague america with his bullshit
[–]FatherOfLights88 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He has perpetrated one of the greatest evils in the world.
[–]LokisDawn 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
He wasn't the only one. He is just the most well known one, possibly because he straight up invented a food that was supposed to be so boring it stops you from masturbating (corn flakes).
[–]bluechair01 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Which ended up being the death of him because his sigma male brother patented it before him, made it tasty AND won the ensuing lawsuit against him
[–]mountingconfusion 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It was Kellogg, I wasn't sure but it was him lol
[–]wisecrusader 48 points49 points50 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Hearing stuff like this is what really bums me out, man. A part of me taken before I could even speak up for myself. And now I'm missing out. Sigh Life.
[–]ShaidarHaran2[S] 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Best we can do is be the change for the next born generation and keep educating people
[–]SpicyNippss 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Just fyi, they have fake foreskins you can buy. the best of which is probably "manhood" from canada. Kinda spendy, but it will protect your glans and your frenulum remnant and dekeratinize them. Really improved my sensations. I'll never know what a true foreskin feels like, but protecting the glans is really important for enjoying sex to its fullest. Might be TMI, but i can actually feel the texture of a vagina now with my penis, as opposed to before i couldn't feel the ruggae.
[–]ShaidarHaran2[S] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is it any wonder cut guys need to be rougher and use props like lube to get off. I know my foreskin is a world of sensation on its own and find it hard to get off without involving it, and that's without the desensitization of the glans. People who say it makes no difference, they're just lying.
[–]2kenzhe 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same
[–]Dominant-Species-Mid 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Are their actually guys out there thinking “I’m glad I sacrificed how good sex feels so my penis looks pretty and I don’t have to clean it as often”.
I just assumed every guy who was circumcised was pissed they got mutilated as an infant.
[–]ShaidarHaran2[S] 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's coping, what happened to me can't be bad so there must be good reasons for it, ignoring that it's an old holdover from puritanical times and religions that mandate it literally state that purpose to make masturbation less pleasurable.
[–]Garttt -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I genuinely could not care any less than I currently do that I'm circumcised. It does not affect my life in any way that matters. Call it coping all you want, that doesn't change the fact that I do not care.
We're not talking about you, we're talking about guys who continue to justify it being done to them with outdated and disproven reasons.
[–]Mantequilla_Stotch 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Being circumcised and promoting circumcision are very different. We didn't get a choice of being "cut people." Don't make it seem like everyone who's cut are coming up with this argument.
[–]ShaidarHaran2[S] 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm not, certainly many cut guys are against it, I'm merely saying it's odd how some cut guys rationalize it with things that make no sense.
[–]Proud-Way-3694 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well its said that it makes it less pleasurable but with nothing to compare that too they still feel pleasure and can't make a positive
[+]lookathismonkey -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If i was just born, I wouldnt have wanted it cut. But now, im fine with what its like
[–]CursedCrypto 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is a healthy and sensible way of thinking about it.
As an adult, I'm considering having it done, as an adult, I have that choice and can weigh up any consequences. If it had been done to me as a child, I would hate my parents for it, you're a better man than me.
[–]slimeycoomer 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
downvoted for having a good mentality about your situation. i had my genitals mutilated as an infant too but there’s nothing i can do about it so i might as well not worry about it. no point in being insecure about something i can’t change.
[–]disayle32 41 points42 points43 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Muh religions, muh traditions, muh hygiene, muh it happened to me so I want my son to look like me, muh women's preferences, muh "STI and UTI prevention", and so many others. There's a whole gamut of rationalizations, justifications, and excuses. It's all nothing more than covering for the skin care companies making billions of dollars harvesting baby boy foreskins to produce anti aging skin creams for the rich and powerful.
[–]PacoBedejo 31 points32 points33 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I want my son to look like me
This one is truly baffling.
[–]road_laya 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's mainly due to successful marketing by anti-masturbation guy Kellog (the corn-farming cereal seller and politician). He was also behind the marketing behind eating breakfast, "8 out of 10 doctors agree that a bowl of Kellog's corn flakes can be a part in a balanced breakfast".
[–]Oculus_Oculi -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Not supporting anything, just want to point out that in your 30s and it isn't a problem keeping yourself clean. Ask any geriatric doctor or nurse, elderly men have much more difficulties and infection rate and overal hygienic issues is pretty clear between uncut compares to cut.
Once again not supporting it I am just stating the hygiene debate isnt bull in the entity and it is more difficult with hygiene in elderly patients.
[+]s_slayer -35 points-34 points-33 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
My bf is uncut, he makes sure he washes before we have sex. Unfortunately a lot of guys don’t, and insert a bunch of dick cheese into women and give them UTIS which are a nightmare for us. Have some consideration and just clean it beforehand. It feels great, I love uncut dick but let’s not pretend it’s not unclean.
[–]ramao__ 43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My gf has a vagina, she makes sure she washes before we have sex. Unfortunately a lot of girls don’t, and want men to insert their penis into that fish bowl and gives them severe irritations, itches and even infections which are a nightmare for us. Have some consideration and just clean it beforehand. It feels great, I love pussy but let’s not pretend it’s not unclean.
[–]UnderWaterPopularity 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
exactly. so just wash.
[–]DrummerElectronic733 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just shower once a day, unless you have a super physical or smelly job or sweat a lot, or have been unable to shower for a long time there’s no reason ‘dick cheese’ should even be an issue.
Never had that problem unless I’ve been at a festival or hiking for days I guess but then I look like I fell out a bush anyway. I’m just clean! Ofc yes you go long enough male or female and there’s gonna be uncleanliness down there but that’s the same with hair, underarms, just about anywhere which isn’t super fun after a jog haha.
But good you make your bf shower regularly haha
[–]SavannahOolala -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's a rite of passage for boys in the Philippines.
[–]skulpyur 118 points119 points120 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
My doctor once offered it to me when I was young, trying to make it sound more attractive by saying "everybody in America is doing it". No thanks.
[–]CursedCrypto 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Funnily enough the owner of a gun store said the same thing to me when I started started talking about school shootings...
[–]bluechair01 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Wonder what he wanted to pay for, woulda gotten $500 and some more off of both the operation and selling it to cosmetics companies
[+]Quail_eggs_29 -13 points-12 points-11 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I’m pretty sure they don’t sell foreskins to cosmetic companies, especially not without consent.
[–]disayle32 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You think the mutilation industry gives a flying fuck about consent when their flunkies are already mutilating millions of baby boys without their consent? That's cute.
[+]Quail_eggs_29 -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lol yes, hospitals care about following the laws.
Right now it’s not illegal to mutilate male babies.
Why don’t you do something about that?
[–]disayle32 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Believe me, we're trying. But it's an uphill battle and both sides of the American political aisle are fighting us tooth and nail every step of the way. The left wants to keep pushing transgenderism on children, and MGM makes that easier from a legal standpoint. The right wants to keep doing it because muh religions, muh traditions, muh it happened to me so I want my son to look like me. Both sides have far more power and influence than we do. Care to explain how exactly we're supposed to overcome those massive obstacles?
[–]Quail_eggs_29 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure. For one, you need to appear as a centrist with a clear goal: helping babies.
We need to not criticize pro-circumcision citizens. While they do deserve some criticism for not being smarter, we need to be clear that we’re not judging them or their ignorance. All we want to do is help the next generation of men lead a better life.
This should win people over… few people can look at a man with love and compassion in his heart and turn him away.
[–]RobertRamos 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I always wonder where all those "my body, my choice" people are when it comes to circumcising boys.
[–]ImNotAPersonAnymore 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s almost like they never truly cared about bodily autonomy to begin with. 🤔
[–]Mystery370 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, they mostly care about women since they think they face as much sexism as they were before their ‘rights’
[–]Im-Spreading-for-you 64 points65 points66 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
Beef curtains?
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[–]Imaginary-Luck-8671 122 points123 points124 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Thus subverting the audience's expectations that what they were doing was OK, and throwing sharp focus onto the double standard.
Me gusta
[–]disayle32 36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
"BUT BUT BUT FGM IS WORSE HURR DURR CHECKM8 INCELS" --Probably
[–]Sarin03 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is worse, but it is also far less common. Both cause harm, but only one of them has people trying to stop it.
[+][deleted] -32 points-31 points-30 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Well it is worse because in FGM they don't just cut off labia (skin) but also the clitoris (its external part to be exact).
Having that said, neither should be allowed because both are an irreversible and unnecessary (most of the times) change without the patient's consent.
[–]regularcomments 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, yeah.The classic comment of "but they suffer more".
[–]matrixislife 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And one of the common forms of ceremonial female circumcision is a pinprick to the labia, that's it. Much less invasive and harmful, but we don't hear much about it, possibly because it wouldn't sound as good in the press.
[–]Throwawayingaccount 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are comparing a specific type of FGM to the most common form of MGM.
There ARE other kinds of MGM that are worse than circumcision.
[–]Im-Spreading-for-you 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How is whatabputtery helping now?
What's the problem with cutting off the clitoris for that matter?
[–]LettuceBeGrateful 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Type IIa FGM just removes part of the labia.
[–]bluechair01 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The whole argument that FGM is worse than MGM is pointless. The worst form of FGM is more damaging than the worst form of MGM, but 3 out of four MGM forms are worse than 4 out of 6 FGM forms. There's literally no argument here because if we're going off of which does more damage MGM has a greater average than FGM's various forms
[–]LokisDawn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The worst form of FGM is more damaging than the worst form of MGM,
Is a sewed shut vagina worse than castration? I honestly couldn't say, and I don't really want to.
[–]notacrackheadofficer 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are ignoring all the botched circumcisions.
[–]ddggdsrgg 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
ah right, I didn't get it, because female circumcision has nothing to do with beef curtains.
[–]Arnulf_67 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Except ofc when they are removed as part of the circumcision.
[–]Im-Spreading-for-you 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I really did not expect that. Thanks for the insight
[–]BkDz_DnKy 102 points103 points104 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I was one of these boys. It sucks knowing it's not my decision to make.
[–]Hero_of_the_Inperium 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same.
[–]StatisticianMajor62 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yep. And I’m mad at my parents for doing it but I still love it and I honestly don’t know what their current opinion on it it’s as I got circumcised long ago
[–]ImNotAPersonAnymore -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So you’re knowledgeable enough to be mad at your parents over it, but not knowledgeable enough to regret the choice they took from you. Interesting.
[–]INAGF 45 points46 points47 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
“Lots of people already circumsize” yeah…in the US and in muslim states. NOWHERE ELSE, is circumsision for boys common
[–]suede16 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lots of the pacific islands as well. I grew up there.
[–]little_jimmy_jackson 40 points41 points42 points 4 years ago* (49 children) | Copy Link
It's the height of idiocy to cut off our most sensitive sexual part of the body when we're infants and then call us degenerate when we discover and utilize the 2nd-most sensitive sexual part of the male body: the prostate.
"But he is having sex with men!" or "His wife puts things in his ass!"
"What leg do you have to stand on? Don't you remember ok-ing the doctor cutting off part of his dick right after birth?"
[+]Archangel1313 -45 points-44 points-43 points 4 years ago (48 children) | Copy Link
Dude. The foreskin is nowhere near the most sensitive part of your body. It's just normal skin.
[–]The_PJG 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
I can tell you're circumcised from this comment alone lol.
[–]Fearless-File-3625 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He is lobotomised too.
[+]Archangel1313 -18 points-17 points-16 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
Buddy, there is a structural difference between regular skin and the tissues that make up the clitoris, for example. The nerve density and tissue composition in the foreskin are just like any other regular skin. There is nothing special about it, except for where it is located.
[–]LettuceBeGrateful 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
The nerve density and tissue composition in the foreskin are just like any other regular skin.
Do you realize that you're just spitting factually untrue BS at this point?
[–]Archangel1313 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2016/4/17/11439740/foreskin-sensitivity
[–]LettuceBeGrateful 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
The data in that study by Bossio literally showed the opposite:
https://stg-blogs.bmj.com/medical-ethics/2016/04/22/circumcision-and-sexual-function-bad-science-reporting-misleads-parents/
Again, you will be surprised to learn—I am quoting directly from the paper now—that “Tactile thresholds at the foreskin (intact men) were significantly lower (more sensitive) than all [other] genital testing sites” including the sites in circumcised men. Who wrote these headlines? They are all false. What the study actually showed was that the average foreskin of a small, non-representative sample of men from Canada, was more sensitive to light touch and mild warmth, and somewhat less sensitive to outright pain, than other parts of the penis.
Again, you will be surprised to learn—I am quoting directly from the paper now—that “Tactile thresholds at the foreskin (intact men) were significantly lower (more sensitive) than all [other] genital testing sites” including the sites in circumcised men.
Who wrote these headlines? They are all false. What the study actually showed was that the average foreskin of a small, non-representative sample of men from Canada, was more sensitive to light touch and mild warmth, and somewhat less sensitive to outright pain, than other parts of the penis.
[–]Archangel1313 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Lol! So that guy is clearly misunderstanding the results of Bossio's study...probably on purpose, because he doesn't like the results. See, most real scientific studies are not intended to make broad, overarching claims about a multitude of concepts...they are intended to test a single claim, in detail.
Bossio's study was testing the claim that when the foreskin is removed, the rest of the penis becomes desensitized as a result. That claim, is the underlying assertion that when you remove the foreskin, you are reducing the man's ability to enjoy sex. That is false. Bossio isn't even the first researcher to rest this, and come to this conclusión...she is just using the most advanced methodology to date.
Yes, there are nerves in the foreskin. And of course, when you remove it, you no longer get the benefit of that sensation. But it is NOT some kind of magical organ, that determines all pleasure for men. It is simply one piece of outer layer skin. In fact it is specialized to only really react to fine touch stimulation. It's purpose is to protect the other parts of the penis from potential damage. Why would the protective layer on your penis be more important to sexual performance than the areas it is intended to protect?
Sure, you might lose some type of sensation, when it is gone. That is not being disputed. But did it ever occur to you, that you also might gain some new sensations with it no longer in the way?
[–]LettuceBeGrateful 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
No, if you actually read the conclusion of the study, it blatantly misrepresents its own data in multiple ways, and the Vox article repeated those bad claims.
That third paragraph is a response to a whole lot of things I never said.
that you also might gain some new sensations with it no longer in the way?
This is absurd speculation on your part.
[–]Archangel1313 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
No, it isn't. My younger brother got circumcised when he was 18 of 19. He said there were parts of his penis that were always at least partially covered by his foreskin, that once it was gone, he realized just how sensitive they actually were. In particular, the ridge behind the head. His girlfriend also noticed it way more after circumcision, simply because it was so much more pronounced without the foreskin bunched up against it.
As for that study...you should really read it again. The conclusions it comes to are very clear...you just don't want to hear it.
[–]The_PJG 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok it's pretty clear you have no idea how foreskins work, how they are structured, what their purpose is, or how it feels to have one. If you want to believe that the foreskin is a useless piece of skin with no purpose to feel better about not having one then go right ahead, but stop spilling that bullshit to other people and spreading misinformation because it's clear you have no idea what you are talking about lol.
[–]VeteranOfDepression 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link
With 40,000+ nerves
[–]ImNotAPersonAnymore 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Best not to pull numbers out of your ass bro, cuz the baby cutters will seize on it and accuse us of being hysterical and misinformed.
[+]Archangel1313 -22 points-21 points-20 points 4 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
https://en.intactiwiki.org/index.php/20,000_nerve_endings
You guys are so full of shit. Even your own wiki, desputes this claim. A woman's clitoris only has about 8,000 nerve endings and it is considered to be even more sensitive than a person's tongue.
Your foreskin isn't magic. It's just skin.
[–]citruschain 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago* (21 children) | Copy Link
The problem isn't the nerves in the skin, its the fact that without it's protection, the glans gets extremely desensitised. It's also something someone can easily make a decision on when they are ready. Think of it like tattooing a baby because you like tattoos, the baby has to live with your choice for no reason.
[+]Archangel1313 -12 points-11 points-10 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
That's a myth, buddy. It's based on a flawed study that relied exclusively on self reporting, in a very small batch of participants.
[–]Funnyboyman69 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
And that’s your defense for irreversibly mutilating the genitals of an unconsenting child?
[–]Archangel1313 -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Man, do you even understand how disingenuous that entire statement is? You are literally repeating slogan propaganda created by white nationalists in Europe, hoping to deter Muslim immigration. You are demonizing all men who get this done, without even attempting to understand the reason. It is mindless, dehumanizing terminology like that, that undermines your entire argument. It shows a complete lack of empathy, or comprehension of this subject.
[–]Funnyboyman69 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
What? Demonizing the men who get it done? I’ve never claimed to be against circumcision in its entirety, I’m against circumcising children without their consent. If you’re an informed adult have at it. And I’m American btw where circumcision is done on pretty much every male child for no logical reason whatsoever. I don’t care what your religious beliefs are, your rights to religious freedom end at the start of someone else’s body.
[–]Archangel1313 -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
This isn't a religious issue...it's about hygiene. Most of the benefits of circumcision occur during early childhood, before your kids have learned how to keep everything down their clean. Mild infections are common, although not terribly serious. Getting it done when your kid is a baby just means they won't even remember the procedure, their at an age where the parents are responsible for taking care of the wound, and before the child reaches an age where keeping their penis clean becomes an issue. Waiting until your child is older, defeats the purpose. They either get through that period without any long term effects, or they don't. Some parents choose not to take that chance, and take preventative measures to make sure nothing goes wrong.
[–]bluechair01 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Pal, stop overdosing on the copium, its gonna kill you
[–]disayle32 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Archangel is a liar and a shill for the mutilation industry. Trying to debate him is completely pointless. Just downvote him and move on.
[–]Archangel1313 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How does not knowing about that until today, make me a liar?
[–]Archangel1313 -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]disayle32 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
Oh, please. You mean to tell me that in all this time you've been on this subreddit, shilling for MGM and getting downvoted like nobody's business, that no-one has ever mentioned the mutilation industry to you before? I don't buy it, not for one minute. If you truly didn't know about it until now, you're lazy at best and willfully ignorant at worst.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Mine must be magic then, cause it definitely ain't just some skin
[–]Archangel1313 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That is fantastic, that you love your own penis. How about you show the same respect to the rest of us...and fuck right off with your condemnation of ours.
[–]ImNotAPersonAnymore 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No one condemns mutilated genitals. They condemn the act of mutilating genitals. The people who are unfairly subjected to the surgeries are not the intended target of the condemnation.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How have I not shown respect? I spoke only about my own foreskin. I think it sucks that you had yours taken from you without choice, I don't think that should have happened or should continue to happen. Being circumcised might be great, I don't know. If I want, I could choose to have it done, but importantly it will be my choice. In any case, we should be honest and not pretend it's just skin. Believe me when I'm telling you now, it's not.
[–]CosmicCryptid_13 77 points78 points79 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Ugh I wish I wasn’t circumcised as a baby it makes me angry
[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]FourFsOfLife 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Restore. You can't get back 100% but you can get back 70%+
[–]CosmicCryptid_13 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Wait that’s an option?!
[–]FourFsOfLife 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Yes. It is. Look into the subreddit for it.
It takes time. But you'll start seeing benefits slowly but surely. Restored men say the difference in pleasure is night and day.
[–]Aldous_Szasz 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Name of the sub?
[–]FourFsOfLife 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
r/foreskin_restoration I believe
[–]CosmicCryptid_13 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I’ll look into it then
[–]FourFsOfLife 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Please do. 3 months into retaining and I was able to ejaculate from a blowjob for the first time. It felt 2-3x as good.
[–]CosmicCryptid_13 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I will! The one thing I’m concerned about is my hypospadias relate surgery I had as a baby. I don’t want that to reopen up.
I also don’t think I’m sensitive enough so that would probably help with that
[–]FourFsOfLife 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's a user on there who's an MD you could maybe ask advice from on that. Hinkle Mckrinckleberry or something.
[–]Revolutionary_Town21 48 points49 points50 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Uncut, and never in my 29 years, it ever had any problem. Use a soap, and all clean. Much much better than suffering a lifetime of lost pleasure sensation. Also if someone doesn't like it because it doesn't "look nicer", they can get lost.
[–]JimE902 51 points52 points53 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Let dudes decide when they’re older, I don’t mind that it happened to me personally
[–]ZenofZer0 40 points41 points42 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Oh, whoa. Are we stepping into children’s rights to bodily autonomy? I find this ironic due to the fact that they can get hormone blockers, but can’t choose to keep their foreskin.😂😂😂
[–]disayle32 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Haven't you heard? The rich and powerful want their anti aging skin cream treatments and pay big bucks for them. Obviously baby boys rights to intact bodies end where their decadence begins.
[–]ZenofZer0 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah baby foreskin seems to be a good source of stem cells. This is usually pretty hush hush but there used to be a daytime television show where Sandra Bullock talked about her anti aging cream with stems cells made from . . . You guessed it. If anything else were used it would be considered a human rights violation
[–]Reddit_kills_kids 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She was on Ellen too, the audience laughed after she tried to hide what it was. Evil, just plain pure Evil.
[–]disayle32 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Shit like that is what leads me, in my darker moments, to think that if we humans destroy ourselves in nuclear fire, then that will be exactly what we deserve.
[–]feelingnether 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Its crazy the number of feminist getting here just to try to offend us but it doesn’t work.
Men’s issues needs to be addressed the same as women issues.
Or we don’t addressed any issues. Thats my theory.
[+]Avalonians -12 points-11 points-10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's not what theory means.
[–]JackeTuffTuff 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Is there any place outside of usa where this is common? (Common outside of jews) Because I see it alot on the internet but here you’d really weird to do it
[–]Cactus2711 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So grateful to my parents for not permanently altering my future sexual pleasure. I struggled with phimosis during my teenage years and had to teach myself how to stretch it out. I even contemplated getting cut because the stretching was so slow and painful. But once it was fully stretched my oh my what a wonderful decision to keep it.
[–]millyfrensic 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Fellow phimosis struggler here any specific stretches that helped if you don’t mind me asking?
[–]TheSpiffingGerman 31 points32 points33 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm circumcised for medical reasons, and i believe that's totally okay, but there is no excuse to mutilate a child for you own preferences
[–]bluechair01 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Phimosis?
[–]ImNotAPersonAnymore 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well don’t just leave us in suspense. What medical condition required a full foreskin amputation?
[–]CursedCrypto -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would imagine it's a rather personal issue, wouldn't you?
[–]Canadian-female 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I haven’t seen this here. There’s a subreddit the advocates for the end of male circumcision. r/intactivism. They can help you find any information you might want.
[–]ArcarozX 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
One of the worst arguments from feminists saying that FGM is worse than MGM is because "it removes an entire organ, whilst circumcision doesn't"
But an organ is a functional unity of tissues in a body that constitutes a structural unity and performs a determined function. And what foreskin is? A functional part, composed of tissues, that performs a determined function.
(Skin also falls under this, so skin can also be considered as an organ, however, nobody thinks that being skinned is better than FGM [though I imagine there are people that would agree with that notion]).
So, removing foreskin, and often not just that, but also the frenulum, is removing / mutilating an organ.
Also, they should check those definitions too, since both definitions imply that the removal doesn't have to be total, it can be partial:
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/female_genital_mutilation#English https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/male_circumcision#English
[–]scolipeeeeed -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If you're implying that most feminists somehow support circumcision, you're wrong. The issue is that whenever FGM is mentioned, someone chimes in about circumcision to detract from the discussion of FGM, usually saying the same thing you are, that feminists don't care about MGM and that it's equally worse. From a bodily autonomy stand point, yes, doing medically unnecessary procedures without consent is always wrong, but there are types of FGM that are more likely to leave the person with pain associated with it, like sewing up the labia only to leave a little hole that can be cut or torn out for sex later, than with a circumcision. I don't know why feminism must be brought up whenever circumcision is. Most people who circumcise their kids are people who stick to tradition, and therefore are less likely to be feminists. Also, I don't know why you can't think one is worse than the other but that both are wrong. This MGM vs FGM thing started by people butting in about circumcision seems to be a "who has it worse" competition than actually trying to solve those issues. If you want people to stop circumcising their babies, you should stop detracting from the conversation by bringing up feminists.
[–]ArcarozX 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
I didn't imply they support circumcision, but they surely think of it as less compared to FGM, or ablation, or don't care about circumcision, which I have nothing against, I don't care about ablation either.
And the problem with that is? If someone only wants to discredit feminism then I find that perfectly righteous. Also, feminists are always the ones that when MRAs talk about circumcision they say it's the fault of men or that is less compared to MGM (which you are justifying right now), or both combined, or some mental/linguistic gymnastics about how is not mutilation or that you don't remove an organ. And as I said in another comment:
I agree MGM and FGM are not equally worse. MGM is worse than FGM, and more boys die from that practice, and the number of girls that die from FGM are tiny, and MGM is more practicised than FGM (10M boys vs. 2M girls).
And if we go about how horrible some of them are, it has to be pointed out that there are four levels for both, circumcision and ablation. Both feminists and MRAs tend to put emphasis on the worst levels, III and IV, when those are the less frequent, being more numerous the softer ones.
Very convenient of them to acknowledge / point out infibulation (the less common one, by the way) but ignore penile subincision.
"Why feminism must be brought up?" Because something MRAs point out a lot are double-standards sorrounding the topic (Ablation = horrible, crime; Circumcision = normal, just tradition) and feminists are more than happy to be responsible of those double standards to grow and to incite them.
"Why you can't think one is worse but the other is worse" I do, I think MGM is worse than ablation.
The rest is a non-sequitur.
[–]scolipeeeeed -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Your third to last paragraph seems to imply that feminists by and large are ok with circumcision, even though that's a pretty bad misunderstanding. Otherwise, why bring up feminism into this discussion about the movement's supposed double standard regarding nonconsensual, medically unnecessary surgeries? You say feminists are more than happy to be responsible and incite those double standards, but I've literally never seen a feminist say circumcision is ok, just that FGM is worse than MGM. And again, something being worse than the other doesn't mean the thing that's less bad is ok in absolute terms.
You're just creating a straw man to argue against while gaining not much for the effort to discourage routine circumcision of babies. Is your goal "defeating" feminists in online spaces or supporting the end of medically unnecessary circumcision done without consent? Maybe you and feminists disagree on whether MGM or FGM is worse, but I'm sure there is a mutual agreement that they both shouldn't be happening.
[–]ArcarozX 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Literally one of the first lines in my comment says: "(...) but they surely think of it as less compared to FGM, or ablation, or don't care about circumcision (...)".
I didn't imply they were "by and large" A-OK with it, I implied that it was divided into two parts, most of the part, generally speaking. That is, one part that "cares" but downplays it, and the other that doesn't care.
You say feminists are more than happy to be responsible and incite those double standards, but I've literally never seen a feminist say circumcision is ok, just that FGM is worse than MGM. And again, something being worse than the other doesn't mean the thing that's less bad is ok in absolute terms.
But that falls into a double standard. Both are genital mutilation, but one gets priority and the other is excused because "one is horrible and the other one is not so much". (And you know it goes like that, otherwise that wouldn't have been and still would be a topic of discussion.) And then, one gets prioritised and the other put aside.
Ironically, you created a quasi-strawman of what i was arguing.
Also, it's weird you put that thing about "defeating feminists online" as a 'goal' when I don't even debate with feminists anymore, and the only reason I did it before was to see how well I could argue or hold my position against others, or to prove myself right, in my earliest years in the internet.
[+]G0jira -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's not why they argue fgm is worse. Fgm is meant to remove sexual pleasure for daughters so they won't want to have sex. I don't think mgm should be a thing, but trying to paint them as equal is wrong.
[–]ArcarozX 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your argument is bullshit, because:
1- That reason I mentioned above is very often used. Of course, it's not the only reason that can be used, as others argue based on the levels of severity those practices have, but still a reason cited often enough. With a lot of people saying "but Circumcision is not mutilation" (it is, it is literally mutilating a part of the body).
2- Apart from the fact that those practices were performed for several other reasons, it is still wrong, since circumcision was indeed believed to be a method to counter male sexuality, since antiquity, and people like Philo of Alexandria, Maimonides, Saint Thomas Aquinas and Muslim jurists commented on the use of the practice with that intent, and still there were people arguing for that in the 19th Century, with people like John H. Kellog and Jonathan Hutchinson being examples of that kind.
3- The intent shouldn't matter here, that is just metaphysics and it has no demonstrable effect on the tangible results of the practice itself.
And I agree comparing MGM with FGM to paint them as equals is wrong, since more boys die from MGM in a lot of countries than girls do from FGM.
[–]true-pure-vessel 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Obligatory Pebblethrow is a nazi
[–]NoCommunication5976 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t shake hands with someone who circumcised their child. If it’s so difficult for them to use soap, they probably don’t maintain basic hygiene.
[–]hgaben90 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I hate and despise Stonetoss in all form and comic but this one.
[–]LettuceBeGrateful 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I hate him too, but he has one or two other circumcision comics that are on point.
[–]Keyoya -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
*her
[–]CdnPoster 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
? "The size of those beef curtains"?????
The picture this put into my head.....!!!!
[–]JERMA985REAL 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think you should let the child grow up and make the decision to get circumcised on their own. I enjoy being circumcised but I get others might not
[–]KR152A 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
PREEEAAAACH!!!!!!!!!
SERIOUSLY I'VE SAID THIS TO MY MOM A MILLION TIMES!!! My body my choice right? Well, unless you are a baby boy that can't even talk. Then I guess it's perfectly okay to mutilate someone's body without their consent.
This is definitely a topic that gets my blood boiling.
[–]ImNotAPersonAnymore 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Preach it, brother. If she cut you then I’m sorry. My mom cut me, too. The pain is real.
[–]SpiderMantisXB1 -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You need hobbies if this is what keeps you up at night
[–]TBSdota 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
stonetoss is the funniest comic writer of the modern era, don't @ me
[–]omegaphallic 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
clever
[–]cplJimminy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If I have a son I will never allow him to be circumcized unless it's medical reason (I had to be cut because I developed phimosis when I was around 9 or 10). I still wonder if maybe there could've been alternatives to surgery, but what happened happened.
People tension the opening to expand the scar tissue and skin that’s constricting it. Suffice to say also you could have just slit the opening to allow retraction without any tissue loss.
[–]PimHazDa 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm pretty sure the joke is that it is a girl they circumcised. Dgmw still weird either way
[–]PorcupinePower 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"nah, it looks nasty, we need to make it look better"
"But what if we decided to surgically modify women's genetelia because it doesn't look good enough?"
"You disgusting pig, how DARE you want to modify a woman's beautiful body for your own personnal gain? Men think women are their property!"
[–]jrbear09 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“Beef curtains”
[–]Round-Attention-4360 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I understand if you do it for religious reasons, but honestly now with modern antibiotics and hygiene there's no real reason for it.
[–]JSNTFS 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am very much against infant circumcision. Reposting stuff like this is not going to help the cause though. Stonetoss may be right about circumcision but he has terrible views about many other things.
[–]phoenix335 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Let's see how long it will take for the postings accusing this of antisemitism.
[–]captaindeadpl 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Stonetoss making a comic with a sensible message? Am I still in the same universe as yesterday?
[–]Raphe9000 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
As they always say, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
[–]CzechoslovakianJesus 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Alright, where's the amogus?
[–]dumbskid45 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That artist is a big piece of shit
[–]feelingnether 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well im circumcise tbh it didn’t change my life really but i get that its not fair since the baby can’t change this event and thats going to last for his entire life.
[–]Zeioth -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Only in the shitty countries. Civilized people don't do that to their kids.
[–]VeteranOfDepression 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
.... United states.... Does it a lot... Like 80%
[–]Zeioth 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes. That was the point.
[–]SophosVA 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good news! A whole 20% of the country isn't shitty!
Jokes aside, raising awareness (even though using Stonetoss is a terrible, oh so terrible choice) in first world countries will hopefully end cosmetic genital mutilation of newborns and if the US joins in, we can hopefully see this view normalised in its pervasive media.
[+]TheWhicher_Statement -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why exactly are we using stonetoss?
[–]GWE-Die 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i do agree with the message here, however we really should nor be looking at stonetoss for anything.
[+]windowpass -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
it's the clitoris that is removed in female circumcision. not the labia lips, aka "beef curtains".
[–]Drekalo 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There's multiple types.
[–]LettuceBeGrateful 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Type IIa FGM removes the labia minora, not the clitoris.
You'd be surprised. A lot of people think "eww anteater dick grossssss"
[–]jayracket -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not mutilating your child's genitals is a good idea. If only it wasn't a stone toss comic... Gross.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Why do people bring this up as an issue? It almost seems like propaganda. I don't give a fuck if you are circumcised or not, it's a personal decision.
[–]Gazmeister_Wongatron 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Yes, it is a personal decision but, unfortunately, most men who have been circumcised never had the chance to make the decision for themselves.
[–]Simba122504 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It's better to get it done as a newborn. And parents make all decisions regarding minors. Period.
[–]LettuceBeGrateful 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No they don't. We have laws against abuse, neglect, and FGM because children have rights too.
[–]Simba122504 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's not abuse. Don't want it for your son? Then don't do it. Leave others be. It has no effect on your life. Both of my nephews and their daddy are cut. My brother is 40 years. You really think that's his biggest issue in life? You think he gives a shit about something he doesn't even remember?
What other parts of my child can I needlessly cut off without it being abuse?
Human rights abuses (and abuse in general) are not determined by whether they are socially accepted. Over 90% of mothers in Indonesia approve of FGM. That doesn't make FGM okay, does it?
Say it with me: children have rights too.
[–]dbishop42 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Unironic stonetoss? Y’all are down so fucking bad it’s legitimately concerning
[–]Ilikefunnyjokes -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm circumzied for religious reasons, is it really that bad?
[–]LettuceBeGrateful 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes.
[–]peter_venture -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, but SO MANY are circumcised for no reason at all, religious or otherwise. Is that logical?
[+]Black_Lister -24 points-23 points-22 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
I must be the odd one out because I'm thankful I was circumcised as a baby. I'd rather be circumcised than not, and I'd rather be circumcised as a baby than having to do it now.
[–]peter_venture 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you're thankful you were circumcised as a baby, that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. But when you say you'd rather be circumcised as a baby than having to do it now, what makes you think you'd have to do it now?
[–]razorwiregoatlick877 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I am assuming, like me, that he likes having his dick circumcised so he is implying that he would get it done as an adult. I agree with him that I’m glad it happened as a baby because I have no memory of it. I think there are some very valid arguments about consent but for me, I’m glad my parents made the choice.
[–]peter_venture 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My parents were told it was 'medically better' and so had me circumcised. That was a lie, but I don't blame them, and I don't worry about it. But if I had to choose, I would say no. Most you see on here feel likewise, and are against medically unnecessary procedures being performed. But you feel otherwise apparently, and I thank you for sharing this opinion.
[+]Archangel1313 -19 points-18 points-17 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
You're not the odd one out. Don't let these people gaslight you into thinking there's something wrong with you dick. There isn't.
[+]TitsAndWhiskey -19 points-18 points-17 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Yeah this sub is on a real foreskin kick today for some reason.
[+]Archangel1313 -16 points-15 points-14 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, they think they're advocating for men...but really all they're doing is dick-shaming men for being circumcised. It's pretty fucking sad.
[–]The_PJG 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
We're shaming the parents who decide to mutilate their children without their consent, not the guys who are already circumcised.
[–]Archangel1313 -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You guys are literally saying that men who are circumcised have had their dicks "mutilated"...and are somehow less functional than uncut men. How does that not fit the definition of dick-shaming?
[–]The_PJG 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The same way I'm not fat shaming someone for being obese, but I acknowledge that being obese is detrimental to health and we should stop the obesity epidemic, I'm not dick shaming anyone for being circumcised, but you were mutilated at birth when a very important sensory and protective organ was chopped off, and we should stop this mass circumcising of babies at once.
I'm not laughing at you or saying you are less of a man for it, but we have to stop this practice and avoid doing it to young men without their consent unless it is absolutely necessary for medical reasons.
[–]No-Satisfaction-2320 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
and are somehow less functional than uncut men
I mean, they are.
How does that not fit the definition of dick-shaming?
🤣
The dudes who were circumcised and know the truth about it, are so happy to see this issue gain traction.
[+]TitsAndWhiskey -16 points-15 points-14 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Dude down below had to have it done for medical reasons and they’re downvoting him to hell for asking them to not call him “mutilated.”
Smdh worse than women in this sub I swear to god
[–]LettuceBeGrateful 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
He's being downvoted because the comic is obviously talking about unnecessary infant circumcision, while he isn't.
[–]TitsAndWhiskey -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No he isn’t. He’s being downvoted because you jackals don’t understand male solidarity and brotherhood. Don’t you dare try to gaslight me like a woman.
[–]LettuceBeGrateful 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't know what you think gaslighting is, but I definitely wasn't gaslighting you.
try to gaslight me like a woman
What's with the unnecessary sexism? Men gaslight too.
He’s being downvoted because you jackals don’t understand male solidarity and brotherhood.
Male solidarity does not mean giving a fellow bro a free pass if he says something that should be corrected. If you want a circlejerk, find another sub.
[–]TitsAndWhiskey -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The irony
[+]Archangel1313 -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I know. This whole subject is toxic as fuck.
None of these munsters even realize the whole reason this topic has been so politicised in the last several years, is because right-wing political groups in Europe have been trying to use it to discourage Muslim immigration to their countries. They've saturated the conversation with so much negative propaganda, that all these idiots think when they hear the term, is that it's "evil", "barbaric", and "mutilation".
They've been so brainwashed that they refuse to even listen to circumcised men, when they tell them that they are wrong. All their outrage is based purely on bogus "studies", and speculation. Try and tell them the truth, and they call you a monster. It's really fucking sad, that this is what they think standing up for other men, looks like.
[–]LettuceBeGrateful 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ironic, given that false beliefs predict increased circumcision satisfaction. In Indonesia, an overwhelming majority of FGM'd women also endorse the practice and say it's beneficial. Does that mean FGM is okay?
It's evil, it's barbaric, and it's mutilation.
[–]No-Satisfaction-2320 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Y'all had a whole ass conversation and you weren't able to say one thing that's correct. That's kinda sad.
[+]TitsAndWhiskey -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude if nobody had ever told these chucklefucks that it was a Big Deal, it just wouldn’t be a big deal.
These dudes are dedicating too much of their lives to anger over nothing.
[–]Ag1Boi -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is stonetoss we're talking about, so I'm sure their reason for opposing circumcision is less than charitable
[+]ElementalChicken -12 points-11 points-10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you want this community to have good outside PR it would be wise not to post stonetoss comics.
[+]Maiq_Da_Liar -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Are you unironically posting stonetoss comics? And it's getting upvoted? You're really not helping you guys' reputation.
[–]ArgumentSpecific1145 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What is the point here?
[+][deleted] -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Circumcision is a medical practice that actually does decrease the chance of of infection andddd it lets ur dick nerves get use to rubbing against things so you last longer im bed then normal. Id actually say Circumcision unironically medically benefits men and i would like the choice to circumcise my own children.
[–]lmaogetbodied32 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
None of this is true, and you know it. An overwhelming majority of the world doesn't cut genitals
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lmao "none of this is true and you know it" stfu you obviously want me to be wrong because you are jealous you still have a higher chance of infection. Weak.
[–]lmaogetbodied32 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm unfortunately cut, but do go off. Your coping mechanism isn't healthy
[–]SpiderMantisXB1 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Don’t try to use reason and logic. This is Reddit.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fr
[+]Dominant-Species-Mid -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Guys won’t wear a condom because it doesn’t feel as good but will chop off part of their dick and completely desensitize the head of their penis to… look pretty?
[–]redramsfan123 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Wtf? Most of the time when a guy gets circumcised it happens when he was a baby without his consent
[–]Dominant-Species-Mid -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
And yet it keeps happening for thousands of years.
So tell my why are fathers still doing this to their sons without their consent? Obviously because they agree with it…
But “wtf” is the correct response to any man who knowingly mutilates his son after experiencing the same.
Edit: the point is a man who is willing to circumcise his son obviously must approve of his own circumcision. And the only real argument for circumcision, with modern day science and hygiene, is sacrificing pleasure for aesthetics.
[–]JayTheFordMan 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
There is also the belief that women don't like uncircumcised men, leading many parents to circumcise out of fear their boy will be rejected by women.
Its fucked up
[–]Dominant-Species-Mid 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That’s what I find so strange though. Half the guys who supposedly claim they are worried a girl won’t find their penis attractive because it isn’t circumcised probably don’t even put in the time to properly groom themselves, practice basic hygiene on the rest of their body, or dress correctly.
But they are willing to have part of their dick chopped off and the pleasure of sex reduced for the sake of looking good.
It’s hilariously fucked up.
I think it's less that he explicitly approves of his own circumcision, and more that he cannot bring himself to disapprove of his own circumcision, so approval is the only option.
[–]BobbyMcFrayson -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Rockthrower is a nazi. Get this trash out of here.
[+]CML_Dark_Sun -52 points-51 points-50 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Nice, posting a comic from a fucking nazi. This is why people dislike y'all, you're a bunch of far right douchebags that don't actually give a single shit about men.
[–]disayle32 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Explain how exactly he's a Nazi and provide trustworthy evidence to back up your explanation.
[–]CML_Dark_Sun 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Okay https://www.reddit.com/r/antifastonetoss/comments/fcck5a/the\_definitive\_guide\_to\_why\_stonetoss\_is\_a\_nazi/
[–]disayle32 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Okay, so maybe he has kooky views. Does that invalidate the point he's making in this comic?
[+]CML_Dark_Sun -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
No, but why you gotta use a nazis comic to make this point? Hell, even leftist feminists agree that circumcision is messed up, there's no reason to use a comic from an actual nazi to make the point.
Edit: LMAO they banned me so that I couldn't find and post anything, here's a link anyway https://everydayfeminism.com/2015/06/circumcision-is-feminist-issue/
The person below this clearly didn't read the part where I'm BANNED so I cannot reply to them.
[–]disayle32 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No, but why you gotta use a nazis comic to make this point?
Because the comic itself is quite clever and does an adroit job at pointing out the hideous double standard that permeates our society. The creator's views don't change that. Nothing will change it.
Hell, even leftist feminists agree that circumcision is messed up, there's no reason to use a comic from an actual nazi to make the point.
Okay. Then show me a similarly adroit, clever comic on this subject from a leftist feminist or another source that is "non-problematic" enough for you.
[–]his_purple_majesty 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nazis invented some of the technology powering your computer. Why are you using it?
[+]Shortwawe -12 points-11 points-10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
yeah stonetoss is a nazi , doesnt mean some of his comics arent on point + they can be funny
[–]disayle32 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm still waiting for that explanation with trustworthy evidence.
[–]NoShitsGivenAtAll11 points 4 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
I was looking for the brainwashed dumbass who will ignore the point and personally attack stonetoss. Found you!
Reddit never spares an opportunity to find morons! Makes me laugh every time! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
[+]CML_Dark_Sun -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There are a lot of people who make this point without also being fucking nazis dude. It's pretty basic. Also, without using misogynistic terms like "beef flaps".
Stonetoss sucks but this comic is on point. Also, the vulgarity of "beef flaps" is part of the point. How often do we hear people shaming men who have "anteaters" or "ugly worm dick"?
[–]VeteranOfDepression 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Citation needed. Or are you calling him a nazi because you don't agree with his opinions?
[–]CML_Dark_Sun 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
https://www.reddit.com/r/antifastonetoss/comments/fcck5a/the\_definitive\_guide\_to\_why\_stonetoss\_is\_a\_nazi/
[–]Concerning-entity 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah for once they actually are a Nazi. Stonetoss is a full-on neonazi with very...interesting opinions on blacks and Jews.
https://www.reddit.com/r/StonetossIsANazi/comments/fcce58/the_definitive_guide_to_why_stonetoss_is_a_nazi/This has a few links to some of his comics that generally show he does hold beliefs associated with Nazism.
https://imgur.com/a/YsYb4Gk And some further evidence.
This is a good case of "don't shoot the message" than "don't shoot the messenger".
[–]Raphe9000 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No matter what he is, how does the content of this comic possess any far right or nazi points? You surely wouldn't consider the dislike of MGM as either, would you? I thought bodily autonomy was supposed to be a progressive stance. Even bad people can have good points, and I hope you agree lest you fall into the trap of Reductio ad Hitlerum.
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[–]disayle32 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
Who's a Nazi?
[–]DarkShadow4444 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That guy in the cartoon maybe? I don't get it either.
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[–]disayle32 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
That's a pretty serious claim. Where's your evidence?
[+]willster191 -14 points-13 points-12 points 4 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
How about just use a search engine? This has been common knowledge for several years mate.
[–]disayle32 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Nope. I didn't make the claim. It's not my job to find evidence to back it up. That is debating 101.
[+]willster191 -12 points-11 points-10 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
Fair enough, although it's tiring from the perspective of someone who is the target of hate to constantly have to explain why people who so obviously hold Nazi and racist views are in fact Nazis. Would help if the privileged people in the world actually gave a shit about others.
https://stonetossisanidiot.blog/about/
https://imgur.com/a/YsYb4Gk
tl;dr he holds racist, sexist, and other alt-right views, as the Nazis did. Therefore, he is what we would call a neonazi. He likes to hide behind the "It's all a joke :)" excuse while peddling this pathetic ideology.
[–]disayle32 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Perhaps he does have some kooky ideas. Does that invalidate the point he's making with this one comic?
[–]willster191 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
First, let's quit the bullshit. "Perhaps he has some kooky ideas." No, he's a fascist, racist, sexist, homophobic, anti-semitic, transphobic loser.
It means it's probably a bad idea to represent your idea by using his comics.
[–]disayle32 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
And none of what you said changes the fact that the comic itself is quite clever and does an adroit job at pointing out this hideous double standard that currently permeates our society. Why do the creator's views matter in this instance?
[–]EmperorHelix 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You posted opinions, not facts.
[+]willster191 -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It's a fact he peddles neonazi ideology.
[–]EmperorHelix 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No, that's an opinion. Your interpretation doesn't make it fact. That's not how truth works.
Additionally, I've seen his comics where he ridicules Nazi ideology.
It's quite clear that anyone you don't like or disagree with is a Neo Nazi in your eyes.
[–]Clemicus 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Putting aide the biased nature of the source: you didn't read it?
No, StoneToss isn’t a Nazi. Yes, StoneToss is racist, sexist and homo/transphobic and anti-journalism who unironically denies the Holocaust and is openly supportive of many different people who openly and unironically express neo-nazi views. If he were living in 1920’s Germany he would’ve been sent to a concentration camp to perform forced labor because the Nazis don’t give a shit about webcomics because they didn’t know what webcomics even were and neither would StoneToss in 1920.
[–]willster191 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The point of that paragraph is he is not technically a Nazi as in the Nazis died out in the 1940s (which is stonetoss's go to defense), but he holds the same views as and supports neonazis, making him a neonazi. It's not complicated.
[–]Clemicus 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
That's from one of the Reddit posts -- that goes on about 'neckbeards' and the actually meme
Edit: No, the point is whatever is written in the first sentence. Whoever wrote is tried to be funny -- neither webcomics or concentration camps existed at that time (the latter meaning there weren't concentration camps in Germany until the 1930s)
[–]ocket8888 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How is he "literally a Nazi"?
[–]Ventilateu -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Good afternoon, sir or madam. I am an Officer from the Reddit Police and I am obliged to inform you that the source of your meme - an individual identifying himself as ‘Stonetoss’ - is in fact a Nazi. 🚨
As you may be aware, Stonetoss creates content that questions modern liberalism, which has led the Blue-Checkmarked Government and the Guildmasters of Gallow to label him as a dangerous fascist. He embraces this title because he thrives on postmodern cancel culture - this behaviour has led Reddit to sentence him to a life of eternal suffering under Godwin’s Law.
Since I am unemployed, single and I don’t have the self-agency to develop a coomer brain, my life revolves around scrolling through Reddit in case I see a Stonetoss edit (who I am obliged to call “Pebbleyeet”, for ‘tis the law of the realm), at which point my sworn duty is to downvote the post and inform the OP (to whom this comment is directed) of this egregious error in judgement. If you still believe your meme is funny regardless, we have the power to accuse you of espousing the ideals of the Third Reich even if there is no record of you doing so. These accusations are binding and will be enforced via upvotes and guilds.
This is your last warning, Nazi scum.
[–]ShaidarHaran2[S] 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It's an obviously satirical take and the goal is less circumcision, not more FGM, we're obviously not for that. But it is interesting that even a ritual pinprick in place of FGM is banned in many places, which objectively does far less damage than circumcision, and far far less chance of leading to death and complications. The clitoral hood and foreskin are also the same structure called the prepuce, removal of those is similar. The foreskin also isn't just extra skin and houses many nerves and structures.
[+]Ecstatic_Wishbone_30 -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Please tell me you're joking. You know what FGM does to a woman/girl? It prevents her from feeling any pleasuure. She won't be able to get aroused and she sure as hell won't be able to cum, ever. Not to mention the amount of pain it causes her to feel because most of the times it's done by a shaman who is in no way doctor and therefore he either doesn't know what he's doing or he uses unsanitary tools which create infection. It's debilitating pain that lasts. Btw most women/girls die from it. They either get infection, lose too much blood, get complications etc. It's in no way similar because FGM is not about removing only the hood but the whole clit is cut off. You'd have to cut off your whole dick for it to be similar. Also, the clit has more nerves and is more sensitive than foreskin. Women who manage to survive FGM can't even piss normaly.
NO I'm not saying MGM is better or ok. What I meant to say is that it's absolutely wrong, ridiculous and offensive to say what you said after the first sentence of your comment.
Just go look up the different forms of FGM. It's so exhausting educating people on the realities of FGM when reactionaries like you zero on in infibulation with zero awareness for spectrum of procedures, and some of what you said is just factually untrue.
[–]Alter_Of_Nate -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
FGM is banned in many places, which objectively does far less damage than circumcision, and far far less chance of leading to death and complications.
You seriously need to read up on FGM. That shit can be brutal. Removal of all external genitalia, with or without anesthesia. And in some cases with crude instruments or fingernails. Sometimes leaving a hole just big enough for urine and menses to pass.
[–]Revolutionary_Town21 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
That "skin" contains millions of nerve endings..so it isn't just "skin". Also, the decision should solely be of the penis holder, not his parents or SO.
FGM is wrong, and so is MGM.
[–]Imaginary-Luck-8671 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why is it so important to point out (entirely without evidence, btw) women have it worse?
It's fucking child abuse, dude. Pretty easy to wrap it in one box and call it good.
You sound like some asshole saying to a rape survivor "Yeah, but it's not the same as female rape. They go through much worse!"
DID YOU HAVE A POINT OR DID YOU JUST WANT TO BRING THE FOCUS ON WOMEN, FFS. HOW ABOUT THIS ISN'T ABOUT YOU, ITS ABOUT CHILDREN BEING SEXUALLY MUTILATED.
[–]Revolutionary_Town21 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Dude, is the point flying above your head? The entire point is, stop comparing which wrong is more harmful, just stop at acknowledging that FGM and MGM are wrong. This is similar logic to what many misandrist use to defend male rape by women.
[+]vaaralinen -12 points-11 points-10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Is what I said flying above your head? Do I have to repeat that they're both wrong seven times for you to get it
[–]Revolutionary_Town21 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Then why the f are you comparing them? Man, either you're slow, or as dense has singularity
[–]vaaralinen -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Faster than a person who imagines their opponent's point and then argues with imaginary things with their only argument being trying to be offensive. I don't think anyone should even try reasoning with people like this so you can continue using your imagination. And the OP compared it if you saw the original post, Thunder
[–]00knz00 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So everything else can be removed for women, huh?
[–]The_Dapper_Balrog 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
...You do realize that there is more than one type of FGM, right? And that most types practiced aren't actually that extreme, and are more like male circumcision in scope (that is, removing some pleasure, but not all)? And that there are much worse forms of MGM which occur in the world, too? Seriously, how is it that "women have it worse" when, objectively speaking, far more men than women experience genital mutilation worldwide - mostly because FGM is seen as a terrible thing, while MGM is seen as an aesthetic or even a beneficial thing (newsflash: it has no benefits at all for the average person).
[–]vaaralinen -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There are men who like circumcision (I am one). And if you could show where I said that women have it worse when I said literally the exact opposition of that, that would be simply magical. But no, I did not realize and as I haven't dived into female circumcision, I might know only a type mentioned by feminists, so gracias for enlightening me on that I guess
And everyone else, please cease the replying to a dead comment thread, okay that might've been irrelevant (if you don't consider posted comic comparing these types), but that is all.
[–]disayle32 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
When are you people going to get it through your thick skulls that it is not a quantitative question of whether they're equal or not? It is a qualitative question of "are they both mutilations?" Obviously the answer to that one is yes, ergo they should both be banned.
[+]vaaralinen -11 points-10 points-9 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
SHOULD I REPEAT IT A DOZEN TIMES THAT THEY ARE BOTH MUTILATIONS AS I ALREADY SAID FOR PEOPLE TO STOP TELLING ME MY OWN WORDS? The only thing I said was they're not biologically comparable, stating at least twice that I think they should be banned. It obviously did not get through to your thick skull...
[–]disayle32 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're not contributing anything helpful to this discussion whatsoever. Go away.
[+]vaaralinen -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So people are expected to contribute to a discussion that you started due to your imagination and not looking at either my comments or original post, and an aggressive person trying to provoke people on the internet tells me to stop being provoked by them. Curious. That's called being a troll.
[–]Sea_Tour_3696 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean I get the point, but female circumcision is much worse in all honesty. Doesn't change the fact I won't be circumcising my children.
[–]Bobocuk123 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am gonna state the obvious: Muslim males are circumsized because of religion. Not preferance exactly, but religional preferance mostly.
[+]Guywithoutimage -11 points-10 points-9 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Remember kids, stonetoss is a nazi
[–]SophosVA 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes and just because he's right this time on an issue we agree with, doesn't "maybe make him right on some other things" or a good person.
We don't pick facts, but we don't make friends with the devil just because it's convenient either. This particular comic strip is spot on even if the artist is a POS
[–]luckycynic-11 points 4 years ago [recovered] (18 children) | Copy Link
I think it's wrong to circumcise boys; it's genital mutilation and the intention is irrelevant given there is no consent. That being said, this is false equivalency; female 'circumcision' is far more damaging to girls than removing the foreskin is for boys.
[–]JayTheFordMan 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
female 'circumcision' is far more damaging to girls than removing the foreskin is for boys.
Go talk to the some 10%+ of boys where circumcision has lead to serious issues and deformity, and indeed death in some cases.
Both are bad, don't play the "girls have it worse therefore bad argument" shit to dismiss the legitimate concerns of both
[–]luckycynic-4 points 4 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
It's like you didn't read the first sentence of my comment.
It's foolish to assume who I have and haven't spoken to. You're welcome to comment emotive nonsense, but if you think the health implications of male and female circumcision are equally severe, you're at best ignorant and at worst an idiot. And yes, the implications being significantly worse for females mean that they have it worse; what that doesn't mean, and what I made abundantly clear, is that it's not also bad for males.
[–]JayTheFordMan 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
but if you think the health implications of male and female circumcision are equally severe, you're at best ignorant and at worst an idiot.
This wasn't my argument, nor would I try and make that argument. The basis of my argument was one of consent, and this I feel is where it should begin and end with, no-one should be cutting any bits off any baby/child full stop. We don't need to get into who gets it worse in order to make the argument whether circumcision is bad.
as an aside comment, Its ironic that the very arguments that are used for male circumcision in the States, hygiene/sexual attractiveness/everyone does it, is used to justify female circumcision in N Africa etc. So perhaps its all bullshit, and we should just stop it
[–]ImNotAPersonAnymore 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
You’re just making shit up. They’re both equally as bad. https://www.prindlepost.org/2022/05/bloodstained-men-and-circumcision-protest/
[+]luckycynic -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
You could just try googling 'health implications of male and female circumcision'. Once you've done that, you're welcome to still say I'm making shit up; you'll be wrong, but you'll be welcome to say it.
[–]ImNotAPersonAnymore 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
The average survivor of MGM is significantly more damaged in physical objective terms than the average survivor of FGM.
[–]luckycynic -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, there's a beautiful irony in you telling me I'm making shit up...
No. The irony is you telling me to google when you yourself clearly never did.
[–]luckycynic -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Sure. Sure.
Where did this come from then?
In fact, don't bother pretending it's from anything resembling a reliable source. It can just stand as a testament to your ignorance and stupidity.
[–]ImNotAPersonAnymore 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
How is a pin prick worse than the removal of a whole sleeve of densely innervated skin. Male circumcision as it’s performed in the States is literally the maximum amount of damage you can perform while preserving the ability to procreate. Infibulation only accounts for 10% of cases of FGM but virtually all MGM survivors receive radical circumcision. Many like me even had their frenulums removed, but I’m gonna be honest, I think you have no idea what a frenulum is, a ridged band is, or any of this shit is. You’re just repeating talking points from a cutting culture that cuts boys but not girls.
[–]luckycynic0 points 4 years ago [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link
It's like you're wanting to prove you're a moron. Describing FGM as a pin prick is one of the most retarded things I've read. And then you refer to how male circumcision is performed in the states, presumably neglecting to wonder why female circumcision is illegal in the states. Of course I wouldn't expect that one can generally be performed in a hospital by medical professionals while the other can't to influence your view on which is worse; that the health implications are self-evidently worse for females sure didn't.
I'm happy to leave you to your opinion because you're far better at demonstrating your idiocy than I ever could.
[–]LettuceBeGrateful 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Type 4 FGM is often just a ritual pinprick. He's not making that up. The most common form of FGM in Indonesia is Type 4, making it over of the most prevalent forms of FGM in the world.
[+]BladeLigerV -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly in my opinion, I don't care about circumcision, so long as it's done cleanly.
[+]HaliRL -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel like you’ve been on the internet way too long if you’re arguing about Dick skin. Go touch some grass
[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Whats with this sub and its hate boner for circumcision lately?
[–]lmaogetbodied32 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
MRM talking about men's issues? No way!!
[–]Simba122504 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
They're not even the same thing. The majority of the men/boys in my family are cut. Nobody remembers what happened to them when they were babies. I don't know a single man who's crying over being cut. This is similar to people who freak out over baby ear piercing. If I had a son, he will definitely be circumcised.
[+]oofed-forever-2 -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I’m circumcised and I honestly don’t see a problem with circumcision, i don’t exactly know how the foreskin is useful and we don’t even remember the pain, it has loads of benifits too. (Please don’t downvote me to hell it’s just my opinion.)
[–]LettuceBeGrateful 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The problem is the unnecessary, nonconsensual genital surgery.
[–]oofed-forever-2 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah now that I think about it it does kinda suck, I think people should be able to choose when they’re older.
“It has loads of benefits” is not an opinion dude. It’s a false statement.
[–]portojohn2020 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao you just admitted to world you have a dirty wiener. That's disgusting
[–]Fluffy_History -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
To be entirely fair male circimcision is quite a bit less...gruesome than female circumcision. Comparing cutting out the clitoris and most of the pleasure nerve feeling parts to cutting off a flap of skin is not quite the same.
[–]_BeefJerk -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So those men who got infections were all dirty slobs who didn't bathe or use soap? Are you always this incredibly insulting and self-righteous, or just when in your Plebbit hugbox?
[+]bass_canwejustbbq -11 points-10 points-9 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I see two problems. First, this is stonetoss and is totally made by a nazi. Second, according to some comments, now I'm deformed and should curl up bitch about it? What? I was circumsized and it has not effected my life at all. I won't circumsize my son if that ever happens but why complain about it if you already are.
[+]maxcorrice -13 points-12 points-11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is that nazis “clock is right twice a day”, though I haven’t ruled out that he’s just against it because Jews do it
[–]Tuxedo-Boi 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
amogus
[+]Ag1Boi -13 points-12 points-11 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Cutting off a woman's clitoris and circumcising a male are not at all comparable, one causes lifelong pin and lasting damage, one has no serious effects at all, and the positives slightly outside whatever negatives there might be
[–]Raphe9000 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
FGM comes in a variety of forms, all reprehensible except for the ones sought out by the individual themselves. I surely wouldn't advocate for even the most modest forms of FGM upon a child, so I don't see why MGM should be tolerated any more.
[–]his_purple_majesty 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Boys die from circumcision. Trying to compare it with a "ritual knick" is abhorrent. You should be ashamed.
[+]Ag1Boi -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeh not if it's done properly they don't. The ritual knick is one thing, but removing the clitoris is more akin to chipping off the head of the penis than it is to circumcision
[–]his_purple_majesty 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So you're comparing elective labiaplasty with penile subincision? Despicable.
[–]LettuceBeGrateful 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh cut it out. There are forms of FGM that are comparable to male circumcision, and using post-circumcised men as a baseline for "no serious effects" is bullshit. Loss of foreskin and its functions and erogenous zones is a pretty notable effect.
[+]proteios1 -15 points-14 points-13 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
i am ready to unsub from this group with all the false equivalencies of male circumcision with "mutilation" or the genital mutilation of so called female circumcision. It just isnt. Time to stop diminishing this group with silliness.
1. Look up the different forms of FGM. You don't know what you're talking about.
2. Even if every form of FGM were 1000x worse than MGM, the severity isn't the point and categorizing them together doesn't diminish FGM, anymore than categorizing Types 3 and 4 FGM together diminishes Type 4 FGM.
[–]Frosty-Gate-8094 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All circumcision is not genital mutilation. Only when its done to infant and juvenile boys does it become MGM.
Circumcision of consenting adult men is equivalent to elective labiaplasty. Both should be legal and voluntary.
[–]JayTheFordMan 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stop with the "its worse when its girls" thing, both are still acts of mutilation done on children against their will and without consent. This is the argument. You don't get to hand wave away male circumcision because female circumcision is worse, the crux of it is cutting bits of kids genitals without consent, both are wrong
[+]SaltyArtemis -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
People keep saying “you can just use soap and wash” as if this pandemic didn’t expose so many people who openly admitted to not showering everyday, not washing their legs, using the “trickle down effect,” thinking a pool day means you don’t have to shower, etc. 🤨🤔
[–]ungar508-4 points 4 years ago [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link
İ disagree wite the cut penis hood ,Many MANY ppl who dont get it gets infaction all the time So no i will make my baby circumsized too İ dont belive the "Good" is clean never . İts also a releguis thing to for ppl
İn islam you cant have a part body that isnt clean whne prying or going to pry at mosque
Because the hood collecks precum and lets be Clear youll never make it clean all the time .
[–]ungar508-3 points 4 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
İts okey if you dont get it or do But dont judge ppl becasue They made their kid cursimsized is what i am saying
[–]ImNotAPersonAnymore 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why would god give you a body part and then tell you to cut it off?
[–]ungar508-4 points 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Why does disabled ppl born ? Why ppl wite extra or less body parts are born ? Why blind in born ?
İ dont know .
.and like i siad ,cut it or not ,i belive to cut it so i will for my own kid
You May not like it ,but its my kid
Satan has tricked you.
God loves you and would never tell you to hurt yourself or your kids.
[+]ribps -50 points-49 points-48 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Guys could you stop insulting circumcised males? It's pretty misandrist if you ask me. I developed phimosis and had to go to surgery. You calling me stupid in these posts is wrong. You don't have to be insulting to explain your point.
[–]TheFio 31 points32 points33 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
The only stupid thing is how you're somehow misinterpreting these types of posts as insulting circumsision. It's a procedure that should not be done to babies for cosmetic or religious purposes. Yours is medical.
[+]ribps -28 points-27 points-26 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
So I shouldn't take you calling me mutilated as an insult?
[–]TheFio 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
No but you can take me calling you stupid as an insult if you like. You are mutilated. So am I. Yours is for a medical reason. Mine and most others was not. The fact it's so central to who you are is alarming.
[+]ribps -14 points-13 points-12 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I know I am. But I don't like to be called mutilated just for going for a surgery. It's horrible, if a women called you mutilated man just for being circumcised wouldn't that hurt? Men here calling me mutilated man is insulting. You calling me stupid is something I don't care tho. But if you can help me understand how is not an insult I'll appreciate it
[–]TheFio 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's technically mutilation, but it's socially accepted. You don't have to associate the term with an insult. By the same mark, many different cosmetic surgeries are also technically mutilation. Youre not a lesser person for having it, but you do have it all the same.
[–]ribps 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I can't seem to understand it but maybe in the future it will change. I hate how my brothers call me mutilated whenever I checked this subreddit. I'll keep myself out of equal rights activism for now.
[–]Frosty-Gate-8094 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There is a difference between medical procedure and mutilation.
Removing someone's appendix because they developed appendicitis is a 'medical procedure'. (Irrespective of age) But removing someone's healthy appendix just to prevent a future episode of appendicitis is butchery. And when its done to non-consenting infants, its mutilation..
Appendix is also a vestigial organ. But we don't remove it in all infants unless it develops a problem. When the procedure is justified...
[–]Potato-with-guns 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Dude, could you stop advocating for irreparably mutilating the genitals of children?
By all means, get a circumcision, but don't force it on every single male child ever born.
[–]ribps -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Never said it was okay, are you sure you replied to the right comment?
[–]Potato-with-guns 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
And the comic never insulted you, it even subverted expectations by showing that it was a girl that was circumcised. Did you reply to the right post?
[–]ribps -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm talking about you guys not the comic
[–]Potato-with-guns 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Even then, plenty of people have other kinds of scars, those people are mutilated. It isn't an insult as much as you want to act offended.
[–]ribps -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah but I don't see you guys constantly pointing that they are mutilated. And can't you see how disrespectful it is to label man with a scar a mutilated man. Also you made it some kind of slogan against circumsition. You keep shoving it to my face.
[+]s_slayer -31 points-30 points-29 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
What’s interesting about this sub is the automatic blame you place on women for literally everything No mention of the fathers here, who, since your all obsessed with dick sensation as if it were the end all be all to life, should be adamantly against taking that away from their sons. So are you guys saying guys are terrible and cut their sons dicks off? Or is it the mothers? Hmmmm
[–]disayle32 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Interesting how the comic shows both parents at fault and you think it's only blaming the mother. Believe me, I read both my parents the riot act when I found out and my father was genuinely regretful and remorseful about it. But my mother was also there when it happened and she is a lifelong proud feminist who of course believes in "my body, my choice". Do you think she spoke up for my right to choose what happened to my body? Nope. And to this day, she refuses to acknowledge her share of the blame.
[–]ocket8888 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's both, obviously. Idk where you're getting anyone placing blame on only women from this. The title just says "double standards" and the comic itself has both the mother and the father speaking in equal amounts.
[–]VeteranOfDepression 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can see, right? Ok, so if you look at the comic, it shows 2 people holding the child, ok? And these people are the mother and the father. Are you following? Ok good. So, both the parents in this comment are saying why they wanted to, right? Right.
So... where did you get the "blaming women for this" from?
[–]No-Satisfaction-2320 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What's interesting about people like you is that as soon as a woman is mentioned y'all go "OMG hate sub REEEEEEE"
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