Why do women need the "commitment" from a high value man?

Mulkvistee · 2019-10-26T01:34:05+00:00

Security, kids with someone you're actually attracted to, spending time with someone you're actually attracted to, sex with someone you're actually attracted to, not having to second guess their every action for the rest of your lives because their shit is together. Last but not least when things go wrong they aren't internally crushed by a mountain of well concealed self hatred from years of not feeling like they measure up. Ego is a lot easier to deal with than a lifetime of self doubt.

NockerJoe · 2019-10-26T02:41:04+00:00

Because it fits the scenario in their fuckin' head.

This is what you need to understand. There's no logical chain of events based on observation of external factors. There's a narrative they want and a guy who can give it to them takes precedence. As the star of the movie going on entirely between their ears they need a leading man who looks the part and knows his lines and can do all the set piece scenes they imagine like the big wedding and the glamorous dates and the saucy sex scene that ticks all their boxes.

If they fail to get those things it means they aren't the hero of their imaginary story and just a bland human like everyone else and the ego shattering makes them bitter.

Believeinyourflyness · 2019-10-26T00:44:40+00:00

Are you aware that women are not autistic robots making our life decisions with a spreadsheet of pros and cons? We fall in love with men who make us feel good and life is a lot more fun and easy and sexy when we share it with a hot, loving man.

Do you not think it would get a bit lonely raising kids alone or with some loser you can't stand?

robogart · 2019-10-26T00:41:15+00:00

Lol hypergamy my friend

wtknight · 2019-10-26T03:02:36+00:00

Women want to reproduce and have offspring. Commitment from a high value man ensure good genes and another income to provide even more opportunities for her child(ren) than she could provide just by herself. Even if a woman doesn't want children, the motivation is hardwired in.

SunflowerBurst · 2019-10-26T01:49:57+00:00

Remember love? That thing people used to believe in.

philomexa · 2019-10-26T02:16:11+00:00

I'm not about to risk 9 months of pregnancy and 18 years of child rearing on some low value man.

I want the best outcome for my child, that includes genetic fitness and tandem parental investment. There's also this thing called love, which all you fucking robots seem incapable of considering.

erman88 · 2019-10-26T00:52:50+00:00

Surely you can't be that detached from the human psyche?

SmurfESmurferson · 2019-10-26T01:10:26+00:00

The one thing I’m not seeing in these replies is mate guarding. If I’m really into a guy, I don’t want another woman touching him

Orange_Paisley · 2019-10-26T00:57:25+00:00

Because we are in love with and want to build a life with that person, maybe? Some of these questions just seem silly.

diffdedbed · 2019-10-26T03:59:11+00:00

Counter point.

A man who won't commit is low value to her.

Aaren_Augustine · 2019-10-26T00:50:02+00:00

Women need commitment from men like men need sex from women.

NeedingAdvice86 · 2019-10-26T02:49:05+00:00

Mostly because tons of women don't have much else going for them other than the validation of being the chick of the leader of some group or a highly respected man.

Which is why most of my advice to youngsters is pointed to focusing almost entirely on STATUS.....find mixed gender communities\groups, work on being one of its top members and the women in those groups will climb into your bed to be known as the gril who is fucking the #1, 2, 3 in that community.

It is a cheat code to the PUA advice and all the antics about attractions, comfort, etc.

LotBuilder · 2019-10-26T08:29:40+00:00

They want babies.
They don’t earn more than high value men.
They don’t truly like working. Even smart and driven women that become doctors and lawyers see an attrition of 50% within 4 years. It’s hard as hell to become a doc or pass the bar and 50% of them are not practicing within 48 months.
Their options for a desire able spouse don’t increase with time.
The number of men putting in effort to court them decreases over time.
The biological clock is real.

Dora_Bowl · 2019-10-26T00:43:05+00:00

I would argue women do not need it, but rather want it. There are a lot of reasons to want a “high value” man:

as a status symbol
he is high value for a reason and that reason is he is attractive, skilled etc. Which are reasons to want a partner
providing them a good lifestyle
they like that man
the woman is competitive and wants the best man

Littleknownfacts · 2019-10-26T00:52:13+00:00

Its how men prove they actually love us.

jkonrad · 2019-10-26T02:09:08+00:00

Because women are naturally monogamous and prefer their partners are too.

Maybelowsmv · 2019-10-26T00:48:21+00:00

Stability.

I don't want him to leave me, or make me feel unwanted. It can happen anyway, but ye

Plopolok · 2019-10-26T04:17:08+00:00

If you're talking about high RMV men, they want it because it's valued. If you're talking about high SMV men, indeed they don't want it.

NigroqueSimillima · 2019-10-26T01:59:14+00:00

Some women do date guys they seek as more stable but less sexy because they can’t stand the idea of him snatched away. Pretty girls can get attractive boyfriends, but they can’t keep them loyal forever, especially as they age.

Girls who date really attractive guys tend to be very attractive and young. These girls also sometimes tear down their mans ego as a way to keep them in line.

NaturalQueer · 2019-10-26T07:13:02+00:00

Did I need it? Maybe not but I like being committed to one person and so I want that in a partner. Man or woman.

When I found my husband I was looking for a "high value" man, I was looking for someone that was kind, funny, had similar values/beliefs, that I enjoyed spending time with, who liked to talk about life, someone to travel with, maybe start a family with and that I could fall in love with.

And no I don't just want sex I wanted a life partner, I don't why that's hard for people to understand.

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FereallyRed · 2019-10-26T01:45:31+00:00

Feelings of safety and security, the oak, the rock.

Million-Suns · 2019-10-26T06:00:18+00:00

If it's for status, maybe that can be a possible reason. To show off to other women and make them jealous. To show off to friends and family. This seems like a bit of a sad reason, but it's all I can think of for why women need the commitment of a high value man.

Mostly this. That's the reason why women will never seek garbage collector men who still have decent incomes. In my country they ever out earn a lot of white collar jobs. But can you picture Jane bragging about her husband doing that at an all girls out dinner in the restaurant? Me neither.

Plus they need commitment formalized with paper, because in case of divorce , the legal climate still favours women.

Taipanshimshon · 2019-10-26T09:57:10+00:00

Don't know. They do keep saying that's what they want.

TheReformist94 · 2019-10-26T12:33:08+00:00

They don't. Just hop from alpha cock to alpha cock, a string of fuckbuddies. serial monogamy.

Read up what deployed women in army barracks do

wesborlandisagod5 · 2019-10-26T13:21:41+00:00

I dont think women can answer this themselves.

Most of those "high value men" are just dudes that are hot as hell and have options by the thousands.

Assuming is a monogamous relationship she wants to have, ironically, being too hot just makes everything worse, because the "high valuable" gentlemen that comes into play, understands that any female can be replace.

It eventually becomes this harem were women orbit the same dude, knowing that they are getting cheated on and the emotional rollercoaster ride becomes addicting.

katymarx · 2019-10-26T16:44:48+00:00

If I get the commit, I've won the war

[deleted] · 2019-10-26T17:58:03+00:00

High value man these days is about alot more than money and status. If you want to generalize about the materialistic, you can. Materialism is not a defining characteristic of men or women. I would even venture to say, based on the number of people who relentlessly pursue wealth and the majority who simply do not, that materialism on a scale high enough to warp someone's life priorities in decidedly unhealthy ways is a minority characteristic of people.

So, that said, if most to all women want a high value man, but most people are not actually like unhealthily materialistic on average, it stands to reason that high value men are defined often by other life characteristics. IE: a guy who can hold down a steady, respectable job that makes him enough money to live on his own passes the "money" requirements for a large number of women and they start to look at other qualities, even if that quality was super important to them.

High value men, personality is a huge part of it. High value men in that sense are men who can keep them entertained, men who offer actual connected companionship and not just a live in fuckbuddy you can watch netflix with. Men who have emotional intelligence and empathy. Men who do not put self first 100% of the time.

Those kind of men are in a minority. We have a crisis of maturity in the US. They're hard to find and women do factually compete for "the good ones" and lol there's an entire thing going on in female culture with women screwing each other over over the good men that is like completely outside of red pills radar. It's almost amusing when men are screaming about women being "used", women are at the same time like eyeing men that other women do not take care of and don't give a fuck about used, they want quality and they'll happily wrap another girl's quality man up if she's not treating him right. Abusive women are getting their relationships poached by other women lol, seen it happen multiple times.

RF111164 · 2019-10-26T18:03:13+00:00

Why do women need the "commitment" from a high value man?

I wouldn't know lol

The type of guy I'm into isn't the supposed "high value" type

slavicgypsygirl · 2019-10-26T20:00:21+00:00

I only like non exclusive dating & don't want any type of commitment

It is men who have wanted this from me

ontherailstoday · 2019-10-26T20:35:04+00:00

I don't think I've ever really needed it, more that I wanted it. And you know what? It is OK for women to want stuff, it is OK for women to insist on getting some or all of the stuff they want if they are going to co-operate in giving men the stuff men want, and life's not going to go bending over backwards to help give enjoyable outcomes pick-me girls who demure and say "oh no I don't need a ring" or "that's OK we'll buy the breakfast cereal you like and I'll learn to like it too I spose" No-one gets their woman card taken away for having and admitting to having and acting to further her opinions and desires, no matter how much the MRAs like to squeak about it.

You go get it girl, I'm with ya.

rus9384 · 2019-10-26T00:46:40+00:00

It's for everything you have listed.

teepy · 2019-10-26T02:12:54+00:00

Its because the culture among women has a hyper level of competition to it even though in the end it won't matter if you aren't a high SMV woman. Sure, you can train harder and harder to compete in the marathon, but to "win" one, you have to have inherent genetic advantages that helps you in the process.

The reason why a average woman can't get high value men is you can't by default if you aren't a high SMV woman.

Modern day dating culture, which you all know, has inflated the egos of majority of women. They think that because they keep getting laid with high SMV men, that they would be able to snatch a high value man for commitment. But that will never happen because... these women with inflated egos gave the high value man exactly what he wants: Sex. Why would a high value man wants to commit to some average looking woman when he can get a supermodel?

Title	Why do women need the "commitment" from a high value man?
Author	BumblingBeta
Upvotes	15
Comments	183
Date	October 26, 2019 12:37 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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