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The dark world of Female Dating Strategy: Online community teaches women to avoid 'worthless scrotes' and categorises men into 'low and high value' based on finances, mental health and penis size

furchfur

November 30, 2021
1493 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title The dark world of Female Dating Strategy: Online community teaches women to avoid 'worthless scrotes' and categorises men into 'low and high value' based on finances, mental health and penis size
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furchfur

Upvotes 1493
Comments 287
Date November 30, 2021 2:22 PM UTC
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Comments

[–]sgt_oddball_17 307 points308 points309 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I am amazed that the Daily Mail published that.

Progress??

[–]Drippinice 84 points85 points86 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Exactly what I thought, I’m shocked

[–]Mycroft033 52 points53 points54 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was too, until I read the second half of the article

[–]Drifter64 51 points52 points53 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Misandrist subreddit.

Women most affected.

[–]Grind289 47 points48 points49 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They still complain that the end result of FDS could unfortunately be... more misogyny. Not a word about misandry.

[–]mimojo 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unless they are men in dresses claiming to be women posting too. Would it still be misogyny then?

[–]Frosty-Gate-8094 112 points113 points114 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is a point upto which you can tolerate misandry, without appearing a bigot.

Daily mail tried to thread that fine line for 2 years (2019-2021). Now if they still ignore it, the world will know they are no different from FDS people.

This is not progress. This is backtracking.
They know they cant continue their bigotry forever.

[–]Fafurion 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you know the editor that reviewed this probably didn't read past the title and agreed with calling men worthless scrotes lol.

[–]Mycroft033 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Progress until you read the second half of the article

[–]KillhappyJenn 40 points41 points42 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Daily Mail recently referred to child rape as an “affair.” I’ll let you guess the gender of the teacher involved.

[–]StudentOfTheTruth0 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I doubt it. The Daily Mail has a history of risking the publication of problematic behavior of women, like atrocious cases of women killing or raping men and boys, getting caught and convicted for it that no other publication would dare to print. I am always wondering how much longer they can do it and when will the feminist gendarmerie come and put an end to them.

I also think that this is partly a response to The Guardian (that absolutely abysmal, worst misandrist disaster) that recently glamorized FDS:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/p29cmr/guardian_newspaper_glamourises_the_female_dating/

But for now, just let's be grateful that the Daily Mail still exists.

[–]furchfur[S] 517 points518 points519 points 4 years ago (82 children) | Copy Link

"Redpill" banned on reddit but "female dating startegy" allowed.

[–]DizzyDeezler 253 points254 points255 points 4 years ago (57 children) | Copy Link

Reddit has specifically stated they do not see white men as marginalized. There rules say bigotry and aggression protection is only in place to "protect marginalized and vulnerable groups and white men are not in that group."

[+][deleted] 4 years ago (37 children) | Copy Link

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[–]DizzyDeezler 197 points198 points199 points 4 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

No, it's revenge. Touted as equality and progression.

[–]quantisegravity_duh 64 points65 points66 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Nail on the head. Equality policy is only ever equal when it’s instantaneous, not until the other side becomes marginalised.

[–]Admirable-Device-541 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Biiig fac nephew

[–]AbysmalDescent 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Revenge for a false narrative that is mainly constructed and perpetuated by other hateful extremists.

[+]DizzyDeezler -39 points-38 points-37 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

It's not a false narrative, women were second class citizens in many prominent civilizations. Roman empire, ancient China, Ottoman empire, and so many more. I'm not defending their treatment of men nor do I think that people should pay for the crimes of their ancestors. But women were basically not human or treated as second class citizens, by law, for 1000's and 1000's of years.

[–]Valmar33 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a massive generalization with no meaningful evidence.

[–]ShiZniT3 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

great times.

[+]DizzyDeezler -19 points-18 points-17 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Sad but true times as well. all those idiots who downvoted me refuse to beleive the truth.

[–]DekajaSukunda 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Well I mean I don't understand why I'm supposed to empathize with the struggles of women that have been dead for thousands of years, while also ignoring that the vast majority of men living in those ages were second class citizens as well, plowing the lands, building the castles, and dying in wars started by nobles.

The men you read about in history books were aristocrats/nobles/rich/etc that had very, very little in common with your average man. The sisters, wives and daughters of the emperors in those empires you listed had more privileged lives than most men living outide of their palaces.

And before you say anything about how this was all men's fault because of patriarchy or whatever. Obvious class issues are not about gender. The men in power wouldn't have been in power if they weren't nobles, and the men being oppressed wouldn't have been in positions of power because they were poor.

Just to clarify, I'm not saying women were not second class citizens in those times. Thats obviously true. But so were the vast majority of men. Feminists often employ this disingenous tactic that they talk about "men" when they refer to a very specific subset of men in positions of power that are inaccesible to most men.

[–]ShiZniT3 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yup and before women could vote, married men has to emotionally please their wives or be shamed by society for inability to keep a wife, which was the equivalent of divorce back then.

so a basic dude still had to conform to society in order to get married. while women would continue to do what they do in todays society, just secretly after the sun goes down without much shame or punishment.

[–]reddut_gang 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's constitutes the title of "second class citizen?"

[–]nubletzx 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I would think Men's Rights, as well as FDS are a reaction to the modern age, more than about history. Yes, they also discuss it, but it frequently seems an afterthought to the main issue(s) at hand. Honestly I think it took the modern age, and social breakdown of traditional gender rules (because of the economy or otherwise) to even give birth to MRA.

[–]AbysmalDescent 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Second class citizen? Were women doing all the fighting and dying? were women doing all the hard and dangerous labor? Were the women the ones expected to bend over backwards to impress, pursue and court men? Were women the ones expected to die or sacrifice their lives in favor of women's in any kind of emergency? Were women the ones expected to provide military service for citizenship? Were women the ones that facing higher criminalization and incarceration rates? Were women the primary victims of over zealous law enforcement? Were women the ones expected to be financially and socially responsible and accountable for their partners? Were women the ones expected to be rich or powerful, by any means necessary, in order to be even recognized as a viable sexual partner?

Seems to me like women have always have a better quality of life than most men of their times, and had their interests served and protected by the men of their time. Seems to me like it's men who have always been treated as second class citizen, or worse.

[–]DizzyDeezler 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It was illegal for them to do those things.

[–]AbysmalDescent -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

In your fabricated narrative maybe. In reality it really wasn't, neither on paper nor practicality. Even if they had been illegal, do you honestly think those laws would have been enforced against women? Hardly.

[–]DizzyDeezler 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

In ancient Rome and China and various other Europe and Asian civilizations it was absolutely illegal for women to become soldiers, own businesses, and run for political office.

[–]StudentOfTheTruth0 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

"Revenge" for what? What long dead people did a long time ago? Acting it out on innocent young people? Great.

BTW, is the "revenge" supposed to be for millennia of protecting and providing for women? Good going.

[–]DizzyDeezler 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, apparently we are to pay for the sins of out ancestors.

[–]StudentOfTheTruth0 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Retroactive "revenge" = retroactive punishment of innocent people for something someone else did.

What kind of legal or judicial principles do these people have? Punishing innocents for something others did? Only in the worst totalitarian dictatorships.

[–]anon517 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's how climate change and national debt works.

So basically yeah?

[–]lasciate 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's implemented mostly by white males, though. It's "one good man" syndrome taken to its ultimate conclusion. Men will do everything short of suicide for the hint of a sniff of [female approval].

Until men learn to undermine the tournament system this will keep happening.

[–]ThrowAway640KB 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Until men learn to undermine the tournament system

A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

[–]joyhammerpants 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No they call it equity now.

[–]ilikecatsandbooze 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

literally racism and sexism.

[–]DownVotesWrongsOnly 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's almost as if the 'progressive' part was a lie all along. Gee didn't people in previous generations point this out way back when? Too bad everyone ignored it.

[–]RealityLivesNow 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not progressive it's just plain old man-hatred unfortunately

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Yes it is. That's exactly what progressive means.

[–]Massdrive 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

No, it's not. THis is simple discrimination.

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Progressives, to my understanding, think there is no such thing as discrimination against an in-power group. And they define who's in power...how convenient.

[–]Massdrive 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Nope. I consider myself fairly progressive. I'm not a bigot or insane either, or think any group deserves special attention. ANY. I'm an egalitarian. I treat everyone the same. Act nice and I'm nice, act like a cunt and I'll treat you like one. Act like a selfish bitch....well, i'm sure you get the point. Just because some idiot labels theirt idiot actiosn "progressive" doesn't mean that's what it is. Fuck, so many idiots label anyhting they don't like as "socialism", despite it being nothing of the kind.

[–]Diesel-66 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You haven't followed the college thinking then. They've been pushing the idea that racism is only one direction for decades

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lines of thinking like critical race theory and it's predecessor radical feminism. To my understanding old time liberals supported a slow equalization of society. Feminists didn't want to wait and went full tilt revolution of the sexes after the mid 1960's. Progressives believe that all this waiting is just a ploy to get us to accept sexism and racism.

Critical race theory, in the reading I've done, starts with Martin Luther Kings movement and then an attempt to speed up the process of achieving equality through demonizing social groups.

It's an interesting subject and I'd like to learn more.

[–]reddut_gang 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

the terms "conservative" and "progressive" are extremely variable and subject to change

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then they are worthless for a discussion. But the discussion goes on. I am interested in getting to the post modernist basics of what "critical theory" both gender and race wise come from.

[–]defeater_of_bigotry_ 33 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reddit has specifically stated they do not see white men as marginalized.

*they do not see white men as human.

[–]Vanishingastronaut 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I love that it's white men, not even white people.

[–]DizzyDeezler 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, from their perspective, and the perspective of media, white women are marginalized and vulnerable. Even though there's technically more women than men on the earth. So theoretically (not checking) there's more white women than white men. Unless something has changed recently.

[–]dontFart_InSpaceSuit 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lol, it's because advertising to women is more profitable. that's all.

[–]__Parallax__ 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Red pill has nothing to with being white. Tons of rp content creators are black.

[–]DizzyDeezler 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

But they're men.

[–]__Parallax__ 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Their argument is that white men aren't protected from anti bigotry rules, well rp isn't for white men, its for all men. none of this makes any sense

[–]DizzyDeezler 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reddit doesn't care if it makes sense. They're men. Men are bad. End of story.

I'm not trying to argue or be mean. But reddit mods make rules and take actions that defy logic and since men are the bad ones, we will be the victims.

[–]shamblam117 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

And reddit thinks FDS is only shitting on white dudes?

[–]DizzyDeezler 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I dont think so. I think they know it's men as a whole. Not just white men. But at the end of the day that doesn't matter to reddit mods. Between men and women. Women are marginalized and vulnerable and men are not. End of story. Their logic is black and white (pun intended). Their decisions deal in absolutes... and only a sith deals in absolutes.

[–]Uniqueiamjustjules 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And reddit, much like any company can point to who the federal government considers a protected class.

[–]Thats-bk 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol wtf

[–]DizzyDeezler 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right? Appalling

[+]Nubras -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

White men are not marginalized in the United States or in the UK.

[–]ThrowAway640KB 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

White men are not marginalized in the United States or in the UK.

The suicide rate would disagree with you on that one.

People don’t commit suicide when they’re in a privileged group and have their problems whisked away by white-knights and s!mps looking to serve them for the merest whiff of p00n.

They commit suicide when they are supremely unprivileged, and realize that there is nothing left for them to hope for. That no-one cares about them, that they are ignored purely because of their gender, that they have been made society’s scapegoat, that they are the villain in every scenario regardless of any actual culpability. That people will actively hate them because of an accident of conception.

[+]Nubras -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Man you have some weird notions about women my guy. Do you know any in your day to day life? Because you seem to deal with them only as if they are caricatures. I’m a white man and nothing you say in your second paragraph has ever happened to me. Ever. Sure, men commit suicide at higher rates, but it doesn’t mean that that they are a marginalized group. The entire western world has been catered to suit primarily the tastes of white men and - again - I say all of this as a white man. I think part of the problem is that a certain segment of people finds mental health issues to be taboo or a sign of weakness or what have you, and some dudes have this feeling that they have to live up to someone else’s ideas of masculinity instead of just doing their own thing. So instead of dealing with things that many people experience in productive ways, they internalize their pain and bottle it up until it’s unbearable and they snap. To say that white man are unprivileged is a blatant falsehood. It’s more accurate to say that many white man cannot fully take advantage of their privilege and are made to feel like failures by a media apparatus and antiquated notions about gender roles. And then they blame women and blacks or other minorities for their shortcomings instead of looking within. I was like that once. If you are feeling these things, you should try therapy or psilocybin mushrooms. You’ll cry but will emerge a new man. DM me if you’d like to talk.

[–]ThrowAway640KB 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I’m a white man and nothing you say in your second paragraph has ever happened to me.

Ah, a data point of one. How adorable. You actually think that means something.

To say that white man are unprivileged is a blatant falsehood.

Then pick one. Pick a single privilege that men have over women that isn’t down to primarily biological differences or gender dimorphism.

The crickets are waiting.

[+]Nubras -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Men can walk down the street alone at night with little worry of being verbally accosted or worse. EDIT: and none of my white male friends have had any do those things happen to them, either, I’ve got plenty of data. You know why? We take care of our shit and don’t blame others or play the victim when things don’t go our way. This sub has poisoned your mind my man.

[–]ThrowAway640KB 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Men can walk down the street alone at night with little worry of being verbally accosted or worse.

False. Men make up 89% of all physical assault victims. And across genders, men get physically assaulted by women (outside of a relationship) almost twice as often as women get physically assaulted by men (outside of a relationship).

It is quite literally much safer for a woman to walk down a dark and dangerous alleyway than it is for a man to do so. With a single scream, women could have any number of potential white-knights rushing to her rescue to fuck up her assailant, while men have no such ability.

Within a relationship, the situation skews even worse for cross-gender interpersonal violence. When you look at non-reciprocal violence, where only one partner is doing the assaulting, women make up 70% of the assailants.

And no-one gives a fuck. Even to this day, the Duluth Model is departmental policy within many police precincts, and forces the cops to automatically arrest the man even if he is being carried out by EMS while on life support and the woman doesn’t have a scratch on her. In fact, cops that arrest the woman are often disciplined for arresting the ideologically incorrect person, as it reflects badly on the precincts metrics. Even their software is frequently biased - it hard-codes the perp as male, the victim as female, which denies many men justice in court as the underlying evidence (the police records) can be thrown out as being fatally incorrect.

Men. Are. Marginalized.

EDIT: and none of my white male friends have had any do those things happen to them, either, I’ve got plenty of data. You know why? We take care of our shit and don’t blame others or play the victim when things don’t go our way. This sub has poisoned your mind my man.

This sounds so much like “feelings over facts”.

[–]ManofGod1000 65 points66 points67 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Yes but, despite their denials and demands, they all chase the bad boys and masculine men. They prefer men who do not care and do not give into them, regardless of what they claim otherwise. To be honest, most women do not even know or understand what they really want and that is fine, there is no hate there, just the way they are.

[–]Laszu 40 points41 points42 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

They constantly complain about getting cum&dumped for the 1000th time, yet they continue to chase the fuckiest of fuckboys.

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I'm an MRA but men constantly complain about crazy sexy women that go on and ruin their lives. Yet they still go for the crazies. But it could just be me.

[–]bteh 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Crazy chick's are literally my type, idk. I don't complain though.

[–]defeater_of_bigotry_ 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

This is whataboutism. The difference here is that in the modern day, men don't have many other options.

[–]dude21862004 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Used to be this sub focused on men getting treated better by society, now I'm constantly seeing straw men and insults directed at women as a whole. That attitude is no better than the chicks on female dating strategy.

[–]defeater_of_bigotry_ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

This subreddit is he same as its always been. We talk about men's issues, such as sexism towards men and the shitty way women behave and treat us.

Take your concern trolling elsewhere.

That attitude is no better than the chicks on female dating strategy.

Why aren't you on there complaining towards them?

[–]dude21862004 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Why aren't you on there complaining towards them?

Because I'm a guy, and I don't feel the need to tear women down in order to build myself up. Funny how you call it "concern trolling" when really I'm just pointing out blatant hypocrisy.

"All men are rapists!"

How could you say such a thing?

"All women are rapists!"

Bravo, you brave man!

[–]CEOofHarassment 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So calling out FDS is tearing women down? Who said all women are rapists?

[–]dude21862004 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Nope, but insulting women as a whole and all these little straw men arguments are. That was just an example of the hypocrisy I constantly see on this sub. One comment section is whining about how women want what they can't have, meanwhile on the FDS type subs, the exact same argument with the genders reversed is happening.

Is that what you want? To be like them? To argue about stupid bullshit while creating straw men to attack for being men/women?

Do you think making broad, generalized, insulting statements is fucked up when they do it? Then why do we allow it in our sub?

[–]ManofGod1000 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually no, men do not constantly complain. The good thing is, it is entirely logical and easy to understand, women are not complex creatures.

[–]nelsonbt 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe men who give in are desired for a different purpose.

[–]ManofGod1000 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, beta bux.

[+]normal_whiteman -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Holy shit, incels are real?

[–]ManofGod1000 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Saying to the man who has a 28 year old daughter and is not a broke ninja.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

r/theredpill

[–]Omegatron8 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How do we get FDS banned for hate speech and bigotry, as it should be?

[–]ThrowAway640KB 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How do we get FDS banned for hate speech and bigotry, as it should be?

You can’t. FDS follows the narrative ideology of female empowerment, and as such, to ban it would be no different than misogyny. Any ban would be heresy against doctrine.

The fact that they display bigotry and gender hatreds that are on-par - if not exceeding - to that of the worst incel groups I have ever seen, is utterly immaterial.

[–]Kodiak01 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Despite RP being at it's core about valuing and improving yourself while FDS is all about discriminating against others based on their perceived value to the woman.

[–]Abiogeneralization 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I don’t mind taking a supply/demand approach to dating or taking biology into account. That’s fine. And I’m not into censorship.

What I mind is double-standards about it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

is not banned, is just quarantinized

[–]red_philosopher 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not banned, they just put it in the 'resteicted' section. LoL

[–]LondonDude123 155 points156 points157 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

It was created in reaction to Red Pill or Incel communities - a collection of websites, blogs, and online forums which oppose feminism and promote masculinity and misogyny.

3rd Sentence in... They dont even know the definition of what they're talking about.

Emma Sayle, the CEO of sex-positive social network Killing Kittens, says that 'any site that rates humans as lesser to each other by using derogatory terms is never going to end well'.

There you go. THATS the reason it got published: its a WOMAN speaking out against FDS.

She believes that by ridiculing men on the website, users could actually be worsening misogyny by tapping into male insecurities. 'Belittling an individual makes them feel inferior and feeds insecurities, playing into misogyny, and keeping the cycle of misogynistic dating alive', said Emma.

Women are belittling Men, and somehow thats "Misogynistic". I dont know how this works...

Users often call out members of the Red Pill subreddit for their attitudes towards women - however share posts with similar rhetoric towards men.

The article LITERALLY ADMITS the hippocracy!

A 'high quality woman' takes care of her health and hygiene but 'isn't crazy' and if she suffers from mental health issues must manage them through therapy or medication.

Yeah... Men agree with you! The two sides literally agree on this!

Alternatively, a 'HVM' is a male who will financially and emotionally invest in a woman, continually - he must be attractive to the female, good with money and constantly volunteer his time to help out his partner. One post in the handbook reads: 'Unless he's consistently investing his resources in you, he has no place in your life'.

Golddiggers, but we cant call them Golddiggers...

[–]othergabe 56 points57 points58 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

The misogyny she refers to is when the male world reactively treats women as less valuable and disposable. FDS is absolutely a masochistic movement that makes things worse for women.

Somebody got hurt once, and decided to hurt men back by making FDS. Hurt people shouldn't get to decide gender relations, it screws everybody in the end.

[–]throwawayincelacc 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Somebody got hurt once, and decided to hurt men back by making FDS.

This is the problem I have with modern day "muh feelz"

The general population is growing up with the perception that they're the center of the world. If their feelings are hurt then it's everyone else's problem to fix. The problem is that some of these people are so sensitive that dealing with this one side means hurting the other side of the scale because of how overbearing you'd need to be to completely "fix" the first side that's crying.

People get hurt once in dating and it's the end of the world. They flock to incel / fds / TwoX over a single bad experience and just perpetuate making everything worse.

[–]othergabe 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree 100%. Those subs are relationship war subs. Perhaps their existence is good temporary therapy, but healthy people should move on from hating the opposite sex if they want healthy relationships. Men and women do each other dirty and attempts at revenge screw everyone.

[–]elisioth4739 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thats the thing most of them on fds are hurt/angry and/or mentally ill or femcels. I scrolled it for a while one night and honestly felt kinda sorry for some of them getting sucked into such mindsets. Some of the profile pics like female versions of incels, not attractive at all, suppose thos is an outlet and gives someone to blame for their own insecurities.

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[–]Laytheblameonluck 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Come on, that's the "woken are the real victims of war" argument.

FDS is about making men internalise women's misandry.

[–]AbysmalDescent 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love their section about what qualities as a high value woman, because it's literally the complete opposite of everything that sub seemingly stands for. "Be nice to staff and animals" but never be kind to men! "be trustworthy, reliable and make men feel safe" by being the most hostile, hateful, unconscientious and self-destructive woman you can be towards men. Nothing untrustworthy, unsafe or unreliable about that! "if they have mental health issues, must handle it through therapy or drugs", but then demonstrate a complete spectrum of mental issues against men, most of which could be solved with a little bit of common sense or basic human decency. "must be expected to save her man from a burning building", in what world would a woman that expects men to compensate her just to show up also be the type of woman to risk her life to save a man's life? They literally established that men are nothing more than wallets to them.

[–]ggleblanc2 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unless he's consistently investing his resources in you, he has no place in your life

Let's turn that around.

Unless she's consistently investing her resources in you, she has no place in your life.

Sounds correct to me. A woman is not serious about being with you unless she invests money towards you.

So, I wouldn't call all women who believe in the quoted statement gold diggers. I'd say they're being prudent. And yes, I know some women are gold diggers.

[–]GhostWCoffee 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women being misandrists to men? Women most affected?

[–]odd_federal34 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So, we have community here which dehumanizing men. Women most affected!

[–]non-troll_account 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The article LITERALLY ADMITS the hippocracy!

hippocracy

[–]enigma2shts 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So what they want are beta males lmao

No self respecting male would accept being treated like so 🤣🤣🤣

[–]motoko_urashima 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

good thing they've been so busy crushing any respect we have.

[–]Thats-bk 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This type of thinking (the article) seems to be very common. It's fucking hilarious, and very sad at the same time.

[–]Tehlaserw0lf -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I can follow your logic, but what about the first statement wasn’t true?

[–]LondonDude123 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Incels, Red Pill, Misogyny, opposing feminism, theyre 4 different things. Yes theres some overlap but ultimately theyre xifferent

[–]Tehlaserw0lf -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Aren’t both red pill and incel communities as described? I’m confused

[–]Mythandros 49 points50 points51 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I find it funny how the FDSers think of themselves as "high value" when they are the least desirable kind of woman, or "no value women" in this case.

I'm frankly surprised this rag of a tabloid didn't agree with them, honestly. They don't have a good history with "articles" about men.

[–]Rarvyn 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean, if you actually read some of their posts, it becomes laughably obvious that the reason they have the views they do is because the FDS posters attract only the "low value" men.

That is, these women state that all men are bottom-dwellers that apparently are categorically unable to take care of themselves or anyone else, while spending all their time being emotionally abuse, sexually manipulative, and god knows what else. Such men do exist - but I don't think they've been anywhere near a majority for decades (if ever).

But the FDS ladies generalize based on the men interested in them and while there's definitely another cohort of men that isn't those things - such men are probably interested in a different population of women.

[–]lasciate 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Amongst themselves they consider being undesirable an admirable trait. When being considered a "bitch" is laudable you know it's over.

[–]WolfShaman 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, they still don't. u/LondonDude123 broke some of it down pretty well.

[–]MiddleReasonable647 67 points68 points69 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

That place is toxic as hell. Calling men “scrotes” is vile and childish. Imagine a similar men’s site calling women the C word routinely.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

And that disgusting slur doesn't go against r/Reddit's "Community Standards" smfhl.

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[–]capitan_cruiser 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Reddit is really xenophobic towards Aussies

[–]elisioth4739 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And Scots, can talk normal on r/scottishfootball it's great lol

[–]Tehlaserw0lf 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean…that’s pretty much most social media platforms, like, all the time. I imagine that’s the point of all this isn’t it?

[–]n8ivco1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I will state for the record again if they call you a scrote call them a labe.

[–]ReliopsWen 60 points61 points62 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

That article is false. The sub started out as a femcel collective.

It still is, by the way: https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/femaledatingstrategy

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[–]upsidedownbackwards 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm in my 30s and there's no surprise there. Most people in my friends groups are divorced and have been for years. Some of them are finally free of child support from the kids they had in their senior year.

None have re-married. I don't know many of them intend on getting married again but they're in the minority. Most of the men never married at this age have never married for a reason. Marriage just isn't in the plans anymore. They like doing their own thing, or just like casual relationships/flings. They have no want for kids. Marriage is not something they want/need. Same thing women go through 18-35 men are doing 30+

[–]Thats-bk 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm about to be divorced at the end of the month. (Good thing for me btw). No kids, and thanks to my soon to be ex I have no intention of having children.

I will never get married again. Absolute waste of time and money and literally was the nail in the coffin that killed our relationship.

To many expectations come along with marriage that are unrealistic.

[–]DizzyDeezler 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wasn't. Women that think that way tend to be older scorned women. Not young women with bright eyes.

[–]ReliopsWen 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because women never actually grow up and perpetually act like children regardless of age. This is what happens when culture hands you everything for free.

[–]chakan2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

mid-late 20's cross-section.

It's interesting, but I guess I'm not surprised by that. Chicks in their 20's haven't turned into total jaded old cat ladies on their 2nd or 3rd marriage yet.

[–]p3ngwin 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

witchesvspatriarchy

Fucking lollololol !

[–]ThrowAway640KB 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

femcel

Good that you used this term instead of incel. Because female incels are an impossibility. You cannot be female and be involuntarily celibate unless you are on another planet with no human males.

[–]motoko_urashima 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

wow. interesting intersection between /r/2d_mommydom and /r/StockMarket .

[–]Strigon_7 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So much hate out there. This is not surprising and it's worth remembering that most women on these sites don't even believe the shit peddled. They just want to fit in. Embarrassing really and that site has imploded more than once.

[–]JayMeadows 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Or in other words; guys don't have to worry about meeting toxic women, they voluntarily separate themselves from the good women.

They're doing the work for us.

[–]DekajaSukunda 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Vasectomies are cheap, easy and reversible.

Literally none of these things are true lol. At least not in my country.

I'm so fucking thankful I'm gay tbh. Life sucked as a kid and especially as a teenager but now that I'm close to my 30's I feel blessed. Whenever I read anything about the straight dating world I'm like... how the fuck does anyone willingly engage on this bullshit.

[–]luchorz93 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same here man!

[–]RealityLivesNow 42 points43 points44 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

FDS women and their like hate all men, teen boys, and young boys more than anything else in the world. Simply for the fact that they were born male. The amount of pure hatred they promote towards anything male is just sadistic and beyond disgusting.

Imagine massive groups of men labeling women 'worthless twats', classifying women based on their vagina tightness/looseness, endlessly shaming women based on their sexual history, and celebrating a culture of pure hatred towards all things female. It would never get widespread support because we are taught to "care about women and girls" meanwhile such hatred for men and boys often gets congratulated throughout mainstream media and elsewhere. The misandrist hypocrisy at the heart of it is as clear as could be.

More people are becoming aware of how common Mainstream Normalized Hypocritical Misandry has become and how harmful it is. The more people who are willing to speak up against it the better. Silence about such extreme hypocrisy basically just condones it. Be willing to speak up. It's not that difficult to do so.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What you described is what feminists want the world to think the Men's Rights movement is. And way too many have bought into the bullshit. For instance the terms "MRA" and "incel"are interchangeable to most Reddit users.

[–]RealityLivesNow 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

They intentionally make up blatant lies about the Men's Rights Movement and about men in general in an attempt to justify all the forms of man-hate hypocrisy they believe in and promote. And they deserve to be called out on their insane biases whenever possible.

The fact is hatred for women is not widely celebrated nor widely accepted. Meanwhile hatred for men is often widely celebrated and widely accepted. Examples of what's allowed or not allowed in mainstream media makes that misandrist hypocrisy abundantly clear.

Opposing casual man-hate hypocrisy is just common sense as far as I'm concerned. We just need more people to embrace that common sense. And speaking up does make a difference.

[–]officerfriendlyrick7 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

It’s okay the world should drop fertility, with these supreme requirements it’s safe to say these women will be single throughout their lives with no children and they will adopt animals, I try to see positive in this dynamic shift happening.

[–]Ok_Research219 40 points41 points42 points 4 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

It’s already happening, birth rates are falling across the world. Countries like Japan, Korea, China, Europe, America, etc. are all experiencing this right now. The lower birth rates are really more the by product of the economy. It will eventually lead to less economic growth. Japan is a great example of how how it’s going to go for the rest of the world as time goes on.

It might seem where many are going to be like, no one, cares big deal. The government will get involved when they find out the ramifications of this. There’s a reason why Japan has government sponsored dating programs. Because without new government taxpayers being born those countries are screwed. So Make no mistake Rome is burning, I’m just seeing the smoke a little sooner than others.

[–]furchfur[S] 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You and I both see the smoke. I actually do not see a socially acceptable way out for the west.

The two countries that I believe are closest to a cliff edge are South Korea and Taiwan.

The collpase in the birth rate in S.Korea is scary. Looking at todays population figures one does not see a problem but 20 years from now the GDP will be half what it is today.

Births 1980: 862K

Births 2000: 640K

Births 2020: 272K

0.837 babies per woman.

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[–]Legitimate-Ad-6267 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope they can fix their problems instead. Or at least let NK collapse first.

[–]capitan_cruiser -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Religious communities will rise, we will just go back to old ways.. religious Jews and Muslims (no idea about Christians and others) have really high birth rates so basically all I'm hoping for is that sharia won't be forced at least in my life time.

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[–]byteuser 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought the elites wanted to depopulate rather

[–]PaterAbsurdus 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Low birth rates are a problem and I think it comes from a decrease in hope and purpose

[–]odd_federal34 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Africa is ok in terms of birthrate. We need to pour billions to feed children who are crawling on the ground because of hunger. But who will be pouring money there when society in Europe will be destabilized by massive immigration of people without morals and army of elderly living in Europe soon?

[–]ThrowAway640KB 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

it’s safe to say these women will be single throughout their lives

Many have had babies with Chad Thundercock, but couldn’t lock him down with that baby (because he had options, and they weren’t anywhere near his top ones). So they’re trying to find Billy Beta Moneybags to strip-mine for resource extracion.

Only now as Alpha Widows they’re sour and loathe to waste time, so they are doing everything in their power to triage those men they do come across with harsh rules and unreasonable demands, and are chasing off many viable candidates with their nastiness.

[–]Doctor_Tentacles_MD 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't see this as a real problem.

These people are legit insane and it affects no one but themselves and their equally shitty boyfriends.

Let them torture each other. It has nothing to do with me.

[–]reddut_gang 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most I see out of it and the lack of action against it is symbolism.

[–]WeEatBabies 33 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So they admit it, they are dating us for money not for who we are.

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Dating for money, weird concept, I wonder if there is some kind of word to describe that, but sadly, I can't think of any ;)

[–]ManofGod1000 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dating and sex is a transactional event, most of the time.

[–]kvakerok 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Female incel sub. Nuff said.

[–]ThrowAway640KB 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Female incel

No such thing. Femcel, perhaps. But incel? That is an impossibility.

It is impossible for anyone to be both female and an involuntary celibate unless they are imprisoned on another planet which has absolutely no cis-hetero human men to speak of.

Actually physically on this planet? Any woman would be voluntarily celibate, because no matter how hideous she is, there is a man somewhere who would gladly chop off his left arm to be with this woman. He may not be desirable, but he’s there and chomping at the bit to be with any woman who actually acknowledges his existence and doesn’t actively discourage him.

[–]kvakerok 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

They let themselves be brainwashed by the sub, and become incels. It's no different than any other cult.

[–]ThrowAway640KB 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I’m not arguing about their mental state, I’m arguing about the terminology used to describe them. Using incel is materially and significantly incorrect.

[–]kvakerok 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm not going to argue semantics with you. The term incel doesn't mean what it used to anymore. They've hijacked it to mean "sexist asshole that doesn't get laid". Pretty sure that the new glove fits.

[–]redramsfan123 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Many of them do get laid though (if what they say is the truth of course) so it still doesn't fit

[–]kvakerok 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

When literal incel subs were around they also had "got laid" posts. Doesn't change anything.

[–]redramsfan123 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Got laid by paying. There's a difference. From what I can tell "incels" that claim they had sex without paying money for it got shamed for not being real incels.

The women I'm talking about were married and in romantic relationships supposedly. You're right that it doesn't really matter though, since it all could be lies, but still. Although it could be a lie, It wouldn't surprise me if they actually are telling the truth because you really do not have to be a morally good person to have sex.

[–]Net_Flux3 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Any woman would be voluntarily celibate, because no matter how hideous she is, there is a man somewhere who would gladly chop off his left arm to be with this woman.

Sounds like male incel logic to me. Chop his arm off to be with a "hideous" woman? Really? If you drop the hyperboles, then you can also say that for every male incel, there might exist a woman somewhere in this world who might be willing to be with him. But that doesn't mean they would be in the same location or that they would meet. If what you said is true, then women wouldn't form 40-50% of people who rape in the U.S. nor would 19% of men in Germany or 16.1% of men in India report being raped by females as adults alone.

[–]ThrowAway640KB 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds like male incel logic to me.

Ah, there is that expected ad hominem meant to socially shame me into silence.

Chop his arm of to be with a "hideous" woman? Really? If you drop the hyperboles, then you can also say that for every male incel, there might exist a woman somewhere in this world who might be willing to be with him.

Actually, no. Females do not work off of the same sexual strategy. A man is willing to be with any willing woman close to his own SMV. A woman suffers from hypergamy, a powerful instinctual desire to lock down the strongest and/or most dominant man she can find.

Or to put it into other terms, men suffer from the Pareto Principle, in which less than 20% of all men are the object of over 80% of all women’s desires. The flip side does not occur, as men are largely willing to be with any willing woman who isn’t a bitch or a prude or exceedingly hideous.

This is also backed up by studies on pre-marital sex, where about 18% of all men account for about 80% of all cross-gender sexual encounters, and the bottom 50% of men account for less than 5%. On the flip side, women in the 20th percentile experience much the same sexual success as women in the 50th or even 80th percentile - it’s largely flat across the entire cohort of women except for the very top 5% and the very bottom 5%, which experience moderate dips due to opposite reasons. But they still have sex. Just not typically with anyone in the lower-80%, and rarely with anyone in the lower-50%.

Even sociology experiments into pair-bonding back this up. This was done by placing people into a judgment-free environment where the social stigma of enforced monogamy and its religious overtones was explicitly suppressed. Turns out that about 80% of women would rather share a “high value” man between themselves than suffer being exclusive to a lower-value man that is closer to her own SMV. The number of men willing to share women with other men was statistically insignificant to the point of being nonexistent.

This is being seen in real-time in Norway, where more than 25% of men will never sire a child -- and it’s not for any lack of desire for children; most of them desperately want to be fathers. Plus, this ratio is increasing rapidly, despite Norway having one of the highest birth rates in Europe. On the other hand, almost all women who want a child can and will have one, mainly by “recycling fathers” -- they share high-value men amongst themselves. In Norway, the number of children a man is likely to have and the number of women he has had children with closely tracks with wealth and prestige.

Turns out that polygamy is an exclusively female construction - a handful of men may benefit, but it’s women who engineer it. This leaves masses of normal men pining for families and lives that they will never be permitted to have.

If what you said is true, then women wouldn't form 40-50% of people who rape in the U.S. nor would 19% of men in Germany or 16.1% of men in India report being raped by females as adults alone.

Now you have gone down the crazy rabbit hole of the non sequitur fallacy. Because it doesn’t follow. Women do not rape for the same reasons men rape. And your first statistic for America alone is broadly the same across all first-world countries, Germany is no different. They just suppress research into that particular statistic, like the FBI did until 2013, and which the US DoJ continues to do.

[–]Net_Flux3 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah, there is that expected ad hominem meant to socially shame me into silence.

I wasn't talking about you specifically. I was stating that I see this argument mostly circulating among male incel ideologues.

The flip side does not occur, as men are largely willing to be with any willing woman who isn’t a bitch or a prude or exceedingly hideous

This is what I was talking about. You were making hyperbolic statements about no such women existing.

This is also backed up by studies on pre-marital sex, where about 18% of all men account for about 80% of all cross-gender sexual encounters, and the bottom 50% of men account for less than 5%. On the flip side, women in the 20th percentile experience much the same sexual success as women in the 50th or even 80th percentile

Could you please provide the source for this study?

Turns out that about 80% of women would rather share a “high value” man between themselves than suffer being exclusive to a lower-value man that is closer to her own SMV.

Could you please provide the source for this study too? The idea that most women are willing to be cuckqueans is intriguing and funny to me.

where more than 25% of men will never sire a child -- and it’s not for any lack of desire for children; most of them desperately want to be fathers

"Desperately" is again a hyperbole, not to mention this is a non sequitur too since being a father isn't a necessary indicator of having sex. 23% of men and 13% of women in Norway are childless and it's for multiple reasons. One is because they prioritise (or have to prioritise) work over having kids. The second is that their working class men prefer being single "to retain control over leisure time". The third is them being celibates, either voluntarily or involuntarily. Attributing all of it to involuntary celibacy of men is dishonest.

And your first statistic for America alone is broadly the same across all first-world countries, Germany is no different

I think you misread what I posted. For the U.S., I was pointing out the percentage of females among people who rape. For Germany and India it was the percentage of men who report being raped by women as adults alone (about 1 in 5 men). They are different parameters.

[–]j8ssi 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What's wrong in promoting masculinity tho , I understand that misogyny shouldn't be practiced/promoted , but masculinity??

[–]DizzyDeezler 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are interchangeable to feminists.

[–]Aimander 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So reddit ban MGTOW a sub where men share their experience to enjoy a single life

But do nothing for FDS, a hate group echo chambers promoting genders war and discriminations.

[–]ThrowAway640KB 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The former is apparently “misogyny” and needs to be suppressed.

The latter is apparently “female empowerment”, and needs to be celebrated.

If anyone can justify that, they need to have a pretty fucked-up worldview.

[–]geocitiesuser 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And the best part is, a lot of guys based on mental health, finances, and penis size alone are still "incels" because women select for face and ability to take social media photos.

[–]ThrowAway640KB 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Online profiles give no opportunity for character and personality to shine through. It’s all just optimized for physical attributes, or how you can best spin those through photography skills and - if needed - Photoshop.

It’s why OLD is pretty well the worst way for any sub-9/10 guy to meet women on the regular for anything approximating a relationship. These guys are going to be largely ignored by default.

[–]awsdlefthandbutton 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's toxic (and funny) as hell but I think you're missing the good points:

  • Now you know what women to avoid
  • Now you can see what women think as expressed by themselves unfiltered, though women were sweet and light, go flick through it.

The women who want to go their own way, well good luck to them tbh.

The rest, it's like watching inmates at Bedlum. The behaviour is all 'you go queen' the topics are all get a 'high value man'. If they are so good why do they need a man who will look after them, this ain't the 1950's.

The only item of interest is the message that women no longer need to be financially/resource dependent upon men. I think men need to learn that, these 'Queens' don't need your resource, there is no need to provide them with your resources.

Fds in many ways justifies mgtow, and I would recommend reading the site to any guy.

Is the site sexist, yep. Should it be closed, I think it's too good of a educational resource for men to see how you are seen by women.

[–]ThrowAway640KB 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If they are so good why do they need a man who will look after them, this ain't the 1950's.

Oh, goodness; 100% this.

The glass ceiling in the economy has been utterly shattered. Women under the age of 35 actually make more than men for the exact same job. As in, the gender wage gap has reversed, making young men the losers, and women the unjustifyingly enriched. Yay affirmative action?

And the reason why this hasn’t “trickled up” to older women comes down to simple timing: these younger, more educated, more career-focused women haven’t reached those positions yet. That rising tide has yet to reach those boats, to spindle a metaphor. Give it another 20-30 years, and women will be out-earning men at all career stages.

[–]Cannibalistic-Toast 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

How tf is that sub not wiped yet by the admins?

[–]chefboi55 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think everyone here knows the answer to that question. The subs name pretty much tells you why.

[–]DizzyDeezler 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Because they mostly don't break reddit rules. The rules state that "bigotry and harassment is not tolerated when aimed at marginalized or vulnerable people to which white men are not".

So while the sub us all about men, and not just white men. Women are marginalized and vulnerable and men are not. Ergo, the sub will continue to exists.

[–]sidirhfbrh 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Isn’t it interesting how slurs referring to a gender by their genitalia are ok if it’s male genitalia by women, but the c word is an instant ban? This site is becoming more disturbingly hypocritical by the day.

[–]Greg_W_Allan 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

bigotry and harassment is not tolerated when aimed at marginalized or vulnerable people to which white men are not

The literal definition of privilege is private law.

[–]hardturkeycider 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think the word 'scrotes' is hilarious. I think the reciprocal word should be 'labians'

[–]sidirhfbrh 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ll be honest, they should be allowed to keep it as long as we get the C word back. Something tells me the blue haired moderation team won’t go for that though.

[–]prettymuchredpilled 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm honestly not that offended by the existence of FDS, it's very clearly a cope sub for low-quality women who struggle to get men to commit to them.

Check out the top overlapping subreddits:

  • /r/datingoverthirty
  • /r/askwomenover30
  • /r/datingoverforty
  • /r/cptsd
  • /r/survivinginfidelity

High-quality, desirable women are not browsing FDS.

[–]sidirhfbrh 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ve always wondered why datingoverthirty had such a distinctly anti-male flavour and this really explains a lot.

[–]3chxes 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ima be real, my takeaway from this was the line about how there isn’t any leagues. Ima try and keep this in mind when I see a pretty lady I wanna talk to 😊

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[–]International_Risk82 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

BuT, BuT WoMeN aRe ObJeCtIfIeD.

[–]ShiZniT3 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yup, you are either a walking dildo or wallet, and neither option do they want you to have free thought and objective opinion. they want a dog with money. men arent fido.

[–]ThrowAway640KB 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These are the women that men go their own way to avoid.

[–]michaelpaoli 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, ... pretty sexis sh*t, ... but not like that's anything new to 'da Interwebs.

And ... how to easily show how sexist and unfair it is? Just change it up a wee bit.

Instead a site for women to find that 'high value' guy,
reimagine it as a site for lesbians, treating other women as that site would have them treat other men. Pretty grossly unfair, eh? Yeh, clearly so. Well, if you change it from lesbian to cis women trying to get men, that doesn't do some magic that suddenly makes it fair.

Uhm, yeah, I figure out some woman's interest in me is mostly over my finances and the size of my pecker, I'd instantly drop her ... even if I was a billionaire with a pecker the size of a giant redwood tree.

[–]twistedh8 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There doesn't seem to be alot of women finding what they want over there. Can't understand why...hmmm

[–]parahacker 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This article mischaracterizes red pill and men's rights so badly that it takes away any positives about calling out FDS.

It even portmanteaus "red pill" and "men's rights" into "Red Pill Rights." Wtf is a red pills rights? I mean really.

[–]manifest-breastiny 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Looks like a foreign power’s psy-op in action. Divide men and women further apart by launching inflammatory, artificially created material.

Fellas, don’t fall for this shit, there are definitely toxic women out there who would follow garbage like this but I can assure they are an extremely small minority.

[–]pudgebone 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's written quite clearly in the communist manifesto. Divide from the inside. Then the enemy, (USA), will be so focused on internal strife they will be unable to focus on external threats.

[–]manifest-breastiny 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, and it’s been fairly effective. The Internet has only accelerated the outrage too.

[–]sypherprince -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

squints excusing misandry by saying it's a...psyop from a hostile nation...lmao

[–]manifest-breastiny 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you’re squinting too hard there haha

[–]Olympic-Simp 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can you imagine not being able to get laid as a woman?

[–]DizzyDeezler 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It still won't get banned. It doesn't violate reddit policy therefore it will continue to exist.

[–]Kaylarmagic 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm not sure I can take anything the daily mail says seriously but either way, this is so incredibly sad.

[–]comfort_bot_1962 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't be sad. Here's a hug!

[–]Oxynewbdone 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If this were male dating strategy. What would be traits of a high value or low value female

[–]TheEppidemic 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let’s be real. They were doing that already!

[–]dtyler86 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Funny, anything one could take away from the red pill community as being sexist and downright immoral are these exact pillars.

A community female dating strategy is openly at war with. What a ridiculous contradiction.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So, doing in an organized way what they've been doing in a disorganized way since the dawn of history? Progress!

[–]tractomula 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who cares? Why can’t we just ignore them instead of giving them more publicity?

[–]BlueMonkOne 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are a lot of angry people in that sub.

[–]Thats-bk 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just laughable how shallow this really is.

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[–]sidirhfbrh 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is a redpill, incel, and mgtow factory all in one. I’m actually amazed how well their unfiltered discussion content directly aligns with and validates Red pill dating and relationship theory and advice.

[–]TheSakiBomber 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wear my FreeDinnerStrategy ban as a badge of honor.

[–]TheSilverShade 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

color me surprised

[–]ChirpaGoinginDry 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Repeat after me, not my monkey not my circus.

That is 10 lbs of crazy in a 5 lb bag. I am not going to concern myself with that subculture.

And if Reddit want me to look the other way, then fine. Play the long game let it become toxic and the needle will love the other way. If it doesn’t then who cares.

Be the change in the world you want not the reaction to the hate you received.

[–]AlphaGoldfish_05 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lol and then they get pissed off when they hear about the 1-10 scale men use to rate women. unbelieveable.

[–]whoAreYouToJudgeME 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

High value man is thrown around by male "dating" experts too, but their definition differs a bit. FDS high value man seems like a laundry list of all things women love with some opposing qualities.

[–]3gm22 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is eye opening when you start to analyze which qualities that each sub values. So we have gold diggers, leeches and hedonists in FDS.

Ive seem similar in TRP though. Both make the mistake of attributing value to external things, never trying to love a person for their sake alone.

They are both successful in using the psychology of the opposing sex to whittle down and attain what they want.

I do find FDS to be slightly more terrible though, on account of finances being a massive driver, and those finances devaluing human worth.

Both stink of hedonists who train themselves to see the world through a lens that is so dirty, that they sabotage their own ability to find and enjoy the beautiful and morally good things in life.

[–]az226 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Describing red pill as misogynistic (correct) but not describing FDS as misandrist (missed that one). They even called it feminist (while it’s about female supremacy, and not equality).

[–]Mammoth-Stranger 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Seems like they're just vocalizing the nature that already exists within women. Women need a provider and in today's society, that equals money and power. Is why ugly men who are broke have slim chances of getting with attractive women unless he's really good with words and portraying high value, it's just human nature. Big reason why I prefer to stay single, the very nature of women just turns me off, the only real value I get is physical at this point, simply because I know they only like me for what I can provide and not for who I am. Also, that subreddit is a living nightmare.

[–]EpicHajsownik 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The acceptance of anti male group is way bigger than the acceptance of anti female group.

Anti female groups are banned within few months or even days.

Anti male groups not only dont get banned, but also have their own politicians making the world hell for men like in Sweden

[–]Excellent_Emotion204 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have to say yes it's one of the most "up my own ass" and man hating toxic places I've ever seen but we're better than that. They don't need us? Cool let's hold them too that. We shouldn't be going out of our way for people we don't care about anymore. I mean look how they view us. We've been giving our time and effort to people who could care less about us, our mental and physical well-being. It's time for those days to end. We need to just start enjoying things we truly enjoy with people who want our time and appreciate our effort or invest ourselves into things that better our own futures as individuals. If you truly do have one of the good ones that's awesome and make sure you hold on to them. If you don't... chin up and start investing as much as you can into yourselves

[–]Jolt_Ready_95 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Should I apologize for this?

I won't date a man unless he is xx feet tall, earns at least xx per month, has xx skin tone, always makes me happy, has xx so many muscles, likes bodybuilding, has xx car, has nothing but the xx hobbies I want him to have, can cook and clean, take care of babies, accepts me for my promiscuous past(and lets me have still more men, I am stupidly proud of my rubbish sexuality) and has a dick at least xx big.

Also, I want him to love me at my worst because I am a human and I can't keep up with my best side always.

I don't think my choices are any wrong. Those who judge me for anything have to know that they have nothing to do with my sexual freedom.

This is what a post looks like in any of some rubbish man-hating subs. Their only purpose is to teach women to manipulate and objectify men even more. And see how she wants him to love her worst side? I mean how worse could her worst side be? And no, we should not hate them, the only safe thing we can do is to avoid them.

Also, did you see how another article at the end of the page blatantly says "Dick size matters, say it with your chest"? My reply to that is "Keep your ass shut! You are nobody to body-shame us."

[–]benderXX 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A good friend of mine, having gone through a bad divorce, says all the time pay for sex by the hour, not with a house or your life. He says this to his own mom and sister. He is in his forties and like many men he’s checked out and will never marry.

This will be the reaction to blogs like this

[–]Glum-One816 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

😂😁😁😂😂 Female Dating Strategy has a dark strategy against men.

[–]AbysmalDescent 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Could the female dating strategy sub really be called a "response to redpill/incel subs" when those redpill/incel subs were themselves a response to female dating strategies to begin with? Seems like, if anything, all it did was double-down on pre-existing anti-male prejudices and toxicity in the dating world from women.

[–]sidirhfbrh 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

FDS is the purest validation of red pill theory that the community could possibly ask for. Flabbergasting how accurately it models reality and how lost the irony is on the women squawking about it in there.

[–]throwaway3569387340 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Stop dating.

Rent, don't buy.

[–]DizzyDeezler -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Uhhh actually buy, don't rent. Rent is wasting your money. Buy a house. Build equity.

[–]DizzyDeezler 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I dont want to stoop to their level, but we need a name for crazy extreme feminists. They got scrotes. We need one.

[–]sidirhfbrh 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The c word is the equivalent, but Reddit has to white knight for women because ad money.

[–]DizzyDeezler 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Money talks.

[–]Reideabyss 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought they were a class of karen

[–]escalopes 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We already have feminazis but it's been overused

[–]reddut_gang 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

they aren't feminists. feminist misandry is a different kind.

[–]Reideabyss 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm a girl and a mans KDR in video games is very important to m. Thats all

[–]Legitimate-Ad-6267 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a great article but right at the end they start to rant about the manosphere, incels and men's rights. It kind of sounded like back tracking.

[–]MontyAlmighty 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How stunning and brave of them.. /s

[–]Lifeinthesc 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just found out I am a “10”.

[–]Same_Network_434 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don’t think there’s anything wrong with this, as men we place values on women based on their traits, why can’t they do the same?

[–]dipstickdingdong 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

well I hate to be to one to say but... F... them let them die of Herpsifilaids and be the cat lady. stopt worrying about what they are doing. Do you Bro!

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[–]dipstickdingdong 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah, but are so worried about their opinion, prob of someone who was rejected most of their lives and in order to accept their existance got to the point of bringing other people down. the are the ones will end up miserable taking care of 100 cats. at least the cats will have a meal once they drop dead

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

fuck the dailymail for endorsing those pieces of shit

[–]elebrin -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

I found this article to be pretty good, actually.

There are a few things that FDS stands for that I agree with. There certainly are a lot of men out there who don't have their shit together. There are men out there who I know fairly well and interact with on the regular who I really wouldn't want in my house and I don't really trust despite being on fairly friendly terms with them. I don't agree with calling them low value, but I suppose that is one way of grouping them together and the term does make sense in the context of what they are trying to do.

They advocate many techniques for keeping yourself safe with regards to sex. If you think a man is just in it for sex, then stay away - that was good advice 50 years ago and it is good advice today too. If you can't trust someone, don't have sex with them. I've given someone that advice myself a million times. I applied that myself by only having sex with the woman I was pretty sure I intended to marry. They use words like "invest" to describe this process.

If one of the things they advocate for is keeping your health, staying fit, and keeping yourself well groomed and well maintained, managing your mental health, and keeping your financial life in order then that is a good thing. And, really, if you are doing those things successfully, you expect a mate to do the same. I have that expectation of my future wife just like how she has that expectation of me. I don't think that's unreasonable at all. I don't like the language they've used, but so be it.

If a woman is looking to be a full time homemaker and build a family, then absolutely yes she should pay attention to a man's bottom line because if he can't provide for her and their children, there is going to be all sorts of trouble ultimately.

I don't like calling people low value. I don't like a lot of the discussions about how to manipulate men into giving you free shit. I think men DO have sexual needs and we ignore them at our own peril - sexual frustration exists and leads to some behavior that can be really detrimental to society.

[–]RealityLivesNow 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Anything hypocritical in nature at FDS is just more casual man-hatred. Which is basically just everything there. Any legitimate gripes there against men who happen to be bad people are only there in an attempt to excuse their pure hatred for all men and boys. Inhabited in the form of every anti-male sexist double standard you can imagine.

[–]Duck_Chavis 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

TBH if you want to get into a good relationship you shouldn't be doing internet searches. You should look for a couple who have been together for a significant time that you would want to emulate. The ask them for advice and help.

[–]elebrin 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not everyone has that in their life.

My father passed away when I was quite young, and we lived nowhere near my uncles on either side of my family. I really didn't have a good model for how relationship dynamics were supposed to work, and most of what I saw for a long time looked quite unpleasant to me. It took me years and years to figure out what a healthy relationship looks like for a man, and I did learn it primarily from online sources.

A lot of young men are in situations like I was: they don't have a good model that they can use. Divorce is rampant. Children born out of wedlock are common. Accidents happen too.

[–]Duck_Chavis 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My parents are together they have a good relationship they are not really my main role model. I have gone out of my way to be friends with married couples who I can look up to.

There is good information on the internet for sure. People also often trend towards extrems on the internet. Real people are a nice reminder that efforts are worth it.

[–]Fean2616 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do not say you want a woman who is in good shape, who also has the hair type and colour you like, who is the height you like, don't say any of that because that's not allowed, this is totally fine though.

[+]FullTermTexasFetus -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm mentally ill. I've been [REDACTED]ing whores for 20 years because no women understand mental illness.

It's been great really I'm not complaining.

What are we talking about?

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What Irony lol?

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[–]DirtyPartyMan 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Isn’t itemization the reason Tinder is so disgusting an App?

[–]ShaidarHaran2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The irony of all of them not understanding they're low value women

[–]HeresyIsUnacceptable 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’d rather spend money on my handgun collection

[–]StudentOfTheTruth0 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I knew all that but still, what an article. It never crosses their minds that the equivalent proposal would be: let's start a Male Dating Strategy reddit and in it, instead of low value and high value "scrotes" (= scrotums), let's categorize women from "ugly as f*ck cunts" to "high attractivity cunts" (you know, naming them by their genitals), and write handbooks about how to avoid the former. And, of course, demanding "constant investment" from the latter. I wonder what Reddit's and the world's reaction would be. And it would be only FAIR. And EQUAL. And EQUITABLE.

[–]The_Observer_Effect 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its what they already do, this just makes the art of legal prostitution more organized!

[–]z3bru 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And its the garbage daily mail... I honestly dont know if its better or worse that they published this.

[–]JustaTcup 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So many people are becoming aware of this sub and so many are calling for its removal. It's still there though.

Actions speak louder than words.

[–]jayk00 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Atleast this gives a better insight of women. I can't generalize things based on 200k subscribers of fds,I am hopeful. There are more women but the thing is why is only men are thrown into judgements? Like penis size,financial status etc. Consider a mother and father with a child, if both earns something it will be better than any of em earning alone. So why not both? It will be beneficial for all the three. Penis size, I have talked about it much and am tired. I have fucked pussies like a buffaloe's,squishy,big,loose,limp and I've also fucked tighter ,but in all honesty I've never said ,even never looked for any other woman while I was with em. I understand penis size might be a deciding factor for them bcoz it takes part in the main piv sex. ***But size variation is not exclusive to men***

Not all women are blackholes nor all women are small and tight just like men. Well that's what I think. Things could be different out there.

Social status of small penises are similar. They are mocked.we have a term small dick energy for negative traits. There's no loose pussy energy. Women don't have negative traits. Moreover why choose small dick as a representative of negative traits, you could have chosen small intestine energy, or fatty lever energy,or low blood pressure energy! Lol. Kidney,liver,brain, stomach, spine there are so many organs in our body.

Then they will accuse you for judging them for breasts ,ass etc like they don't judge you for abs, biceps and chest and broad shoulders. Yeah I'm openly saying ,if a man judges you for ass ,judge him for his ass too. Nothing is morally right. And celebs! There are innumerous celebs who like big penises. Just write your preferences for vaginas on any subreddits like sex or relationship_advice ,they will down vote you. Here's a example when a guy tells his preference about vagina and see the downvotes..

And here's a girls opinion on her penis experience . you can see the numerous votes ,awards and jokes on comments..

Also I don't want the fds sub to close or get banned. Yeah. It actually shows the true faces. Being in false love for a small penis is worst , while she possibly choose big man if given opportunities. Again not generalizing, but let's see how many women are fds fans.

[–]Significant_Night_65 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are all going to be the crazy cat ladies in 10 years

[–]NewVoice2040 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

news flash

Hoes LOVE money, which is why it's number 1.

this ends the new flash

[–]DeltaAgent752 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don’t forget the big one: height. 6 fT tAlL oNlY pLeAsE

[–]Dirk_94 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just read the about Page of the subreddit...

"All comments should be focused on maximizing female benefit only. Male benefit should be a byproduct"

Anyway great for a mainstream Media to report on it.

[–]ronn7x 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing wrong with having standards as a woman.

Men need to have their own uncompromised standards and rate women based on their utility as well.

Equality, right?

[–]Deni-Conquer 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't date girls bellow 7/10 so no problem

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[–]BloodyUserOfNames 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What are you trying to say?

[–]Magical-Hummus 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder how they lose their minds when you say the words "Low Value Females"?

[–]pyrizzy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Equality is equality. Saying men or women can’t have opinions or preferences either way is stupid. If a woman wants a man with a big dick or a man wants a woman that will suck and swallow and cook for them when they come home from work, that’s something that internet discussions will not fix.

[–]michael_tired-of-it 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I' m pissed that the right to abortion is about to be taken away by the Supreme Court. This is insane, 50% of pregnancies are unplanned, men should have the right to not have a child when they are not ready to be a father. Many men pay for the abortion for her. Also where is the male contraceptive pill! It's 2021!!! Why do women get 8 different kinds of contraception and we get the condom or surgery!!!! That is unequal medical care for men's reproductive rights.

[+]Tehlaserw0lf -19 points-18 points-17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you guys don’t see communities like that one and this one as variants of eachother, y’all need psychological treatment.

[+]quantainium_pasta -14 points-13 points-12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean, us men "categorize" women as well. At least for me, my priorities when looking at someone and trying to determine if I'll bother dating them at all:

  1. Is she hot.
  2. Is she mentally sound and makes good decisions.
  3. Is she educated, successful, and on a good financial trajectory.

"Is she hot" is definitely on the top of the list though. That's just human nature, man or woman, we want a physically attractive mate. The "dating pool", and number of "fish in the sea", says you can use that as an easy filter to narrow things down a bit, before spending any effort on discerning the other qualities.

[–]Reddit-person-321 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dating people based on how "hot" they are to you is fine. Shaming people for not fitting your standards however is not.

[+]Silentwes -23 points-22 points-21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL this sub thinking it has any kind of room to talk about that one. I fucking love you losers, always here to make me feel better about myself.

[+][deleted] -19 points-18 points-17 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Oh no! They're doing to us what we've done to them for thousands of years! I will learn nothing from this! 😱

[–]escalopes 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

We haven't done that to them ever

[+][deleted] -17 points-16 points-15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We have investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing

[–]MyBlades 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Ah yes, sins of the father.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

He taught us everything we know

[–]MyBlades 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yours must be pretty stupid.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well in this analogy, "knowledge" means "how to objectify and abuse women," so yeah, he was. Proudly so.

[–]MyBlades 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea, but do you objectify and abuse women? I wasn't there to abuse women for thousands of years and I don't want to repent in the stead of guys who did.

[+]Tehlaserw0lf -22 points-21 points-20 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I feel OP but let’s face reality here. What are men’s rights?

[–]reddut_gang 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

bad faith or genuinely curious? because I've got a few dozen links.

[–]Tehlaserw0lf 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably both, didn’t know there was a thing called men’s rights except for the meme where a group of men believe that they are being marginalized, but historically, men’s rights have never been a thing. So not even really sure this is a serious sub let alone how I should feel about it.

[+]dj-shortcut -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

i'm the current WR holder of the speedrun : getting banned from FDS any% glitchless

[–]DizzyDeezler 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think we all get the same record. We all got insta-banned for being here. When I found that sub I was already a member here so I was immedietly banned

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