Men need to stop explaining themselves to women on forums like this and expecting any sort of validation.

Lonelybuthopeful9 · 2022-01-01T13:27:36+00:00

Half agree half disagree.

Its near impossible to find a women who emphatise this in a realistic sense.

But this doesnt mean knowledge should be kept secret, there are so many males who need to hear some stuff before they torture themselvs with useless approaches.

verdantsound · 2022-01-01T13:14:14+00:00

here’s the thing. People who have never tasted your reality will doubt you. It’s only logical. You can explain it to fat or ugly chicks, they may be able to give you sympathy.

Suck-Less · 2022-01-01T09:51:08+00:00

I don’t express my thoughts here for validation. I do so to help younger men understand that they are not alone. Institutionalized gaslighting is not going to help them.

AnonRb6 · 2022-01-01T19:47:56+00:00

Women have a hard time curating empathy for men.

This should be taught and spread as basic knowledge.

michael1962-01 · 2022-01-01T10:09:55+00:00

RP 101. Where's the news?

BokkoTheBunny · 2022-01-01T12:59:48+00:00

"more attraction to me."

Lol if that's one of your goals here, you're looking in the wrong places.

LittyKitsune · 2022-01-01T12:32:15+00:00

Rules of the internet, kids: Nobody asked, and nobody cares. Be pleasantly surprised in the rare event that they do.

You're better off seeking sympathy/understanding from irl connections.

MarBitt · 2022-01-01T12:37:42+00:00

Trying to get pity sex is challenging. High competition.

I love you unconditionally.

marshmallowmeringue · 2022-01-01T10:00:26+00:00

I’m sorry you haven’t felt heard. You definitely deserve to be heard and to receive compassion. I don’t know what experiences you have shared that were met with callous responses, so I can’t offer any specific female insight. What I can say is that I don’t think anyone is loved unconditionally based on gender. Human capacity for unconditional love at all is debatable- we all have our limits, which is a good thing. Offering love without boundaries isn’t healthy because it gives others the freedom to treat us without consideration. I agree with you about not looking to others to solve your problems. Our issues, like our emotions, are our responsibility. And while I strongly believe seeking validation and compassion is completely normal and right, it’s not the same thing as laying the burden of our issues on someone else to fix. Please let me know if I’ve misunderstood anything you’ve written.

EmptyConstruction492 · 2022-01-01T10:44:58+00:00

This place is a playground for me. There's something very satisfying about getting women to inadvertently admit RP truths

afflictuseternal · 2022-01-01T15:19:15+00:00

And the men here have so much empathy and compassion for women's issues LOL. Men say things like "women live life on tutorial mode" and then proceed to whine about how women have no empathy for men's issues. 💀

DrSpongeFingers · 2022-01-01T20:24:02+00:00

Unconditional love doesn't exist for any adult and when you are an adult you are responsible for yourself. No one else can make you happy or be responsible for your mental health. It's the same for everyone.

Unkhan · 2022-01-01T12:27:06+00:00

Don't complain and don't explain. Just try to live your life the best way you can.

TemperateSloth · 2022-01-01T11:19:43+00:00

I completely disagree. While MRA shilling isn’t particularly effective, I truly believe women of the upcoming generation are more inclined towards genuine egalitarianism than they are towards fighting an endless gender war, as past generations of feminists have done (and, indeed, had to do in order to secure their rights). I see online communities, at the very least, becoming more pro-male in areas like alimony and divorce. Conceptions like marriage are more and more disregarded, largely due to the objects presented by men.

Perhaps an individual woman here or there will truly disregard you, but most will be inclined to shift their views in reaction to hearing your points. Even if they don’t “switch sides,” they will at least incorporate the knowledge you offer into their way of thinking and will be better for it.

Furthermore, you benefit from becoming increasingly capable of articulating your views to an uninviting audience, a difficult and valuable skill - especially for someone with radical and unorthodox views.

nikki1810 · 2022-01-01T16:33:44+00:00

Don't express you emotions on reddit for validation and attraction from women, or really anyone you want to screw. Its Reddit dude.

AnActualPerson · 2022-01-01T16:41:05+00:00

No one gets loved unconditionally, that's an unrealistic expectation on your part.

Stunning-Spirit5275 · 2022-01-01T18:32:06+00:00

If you are looking for unconditional love, you’re better off getting a dog. Women only love their children unconditionally. They love men for what they can provide for them. The sooner you accept this, the sooner the rage will end buddy boyo....

DXBrigade · 2022-01-02T00:32:55+00:00

Nobody is loved unconditionnally. As for lack of empathy, it depends of your complaints, the reverse is also true though. It's not like men in this forum empathies with women.

manfrom-nantucket · 2022-01-01T11:13:17+00:00

If you are a man then your path is one that you walk alone and if you are lucky have a few good friends to share some laughs with. Expecting a woman to aid you, help you, assist you is a pipe dream. Women will share in your success, they will leech off your success and in the moments you are down will abandon you. This is why I always say, you never ever prioritize a woman in your life. It's a waste of time and energy. We have a finite amount of time in this life and no one can manufacture more of it, why then would you waste it trying to earn the approval of women? Leave them where you found them.

Academic_Snow_7680 · 2022-01-01T11:30:17+00:00

We're just security guards, ATMs and tools to women. Women will pretend to validate you when they want something from you, otherwise you're invisible.

livs4dietdrpepper · 2022-01-01T12:33:09+00:00

I mean it’s not woman’s job to validate you. If you want to tell me your story I will always listen, and if you want advice I will give advice, but if you’re looking for someone to just say your perfect it’s not gonna happen for anyone.

Woman feel the same way. I came here to ask advice and was definitely not received the way I thought I would be. It hurt at first, but In the end I do feel like it was a truth that I needed to hear.

I don’t wanna be rude but, you saying it never ends with woman being more attracted to you?

Woman are not going to be more attracted to a stranger they met online because you give us a sob story. I won’t be attracted to you at all cause I don’t know you?

I mean this in the nicest way possible but you sound more like you need professional help that random women on Reddit are not equipped to give. I don’t think becoming more stoic and closed off would be good for you

Kaisha001 · 2022-01-01T13:11:08+00:00

The only way forward is to stop expecting women to understand or empathize with you. You must become callous to a world that does not care for you.

Yeah, I was hoping to be disabused of this notion, but alas, the women on here simply hammer that point home... Again and again and again.

ffandyy · 2022-01-01T11:36:46+00:00

No man or woman is owed unconditional love. If you can get it great but you shouldn’t feel like you need validation from others in order to be happy.

wtknight · 2022-01-01T14:44:28+00:00

Women can empathize somewhat with men but they can't change what they are attracted to, which is why it's useless for men to complain and all they can do is try to improve themselves as much as possible.

AlienMoonSugar · 2022-01-01T18:44:30+00:00

If you want compassion from a woman, stop being sexist. No woman wants to listen to a man rave about how much they hate woman. I mean, it’s a bit self explanatory. You lack emotional intellect. She doesn’t respect you. You shouldn’t need a woman’s validation to love yourself. That thought process is probably where the hatred comes from don’t ya think? Therapy might help. Woman and men are not black and white and they shouldn’t all hate each other. We’re literally on this planet FOR each other. Biologically at least. In my opinion as a woman, I’ve always figured each sex had strengths for the other’s weaknesses and we flourish when we are on the same team. Whilst I hate sexism and I hate the fact I cannot walk around at night without both a friend and a knife- I understand not all men are incels. Not all woman are skin deep bimbos. But with that said- there are a lot of them, same way there’s lots of jerks that only see their counterparts as cumdumpsters who cannot think one coherent thought. Bad people exist and it sucks. But All woman are not at fault for your inability to connect with anybody. I promise you this though- toxic “woman are worthless” mindsets will never ever get ya laid. Believing woman owe you any kind of sexual gratification is a great indicator you are not one of the fantastic men and highly valued men who possess emotional maturity. What makes you think anybody with an average education level is going to listen to anything you have to say when you still live in the stone ages?

Do better and you will find better.

The woman that like to listen and help want the same in a man. At least in my experience. I have a lot of great friendships with a lot of great men. All do well in the dating department. And zero of them are models with six packs. Zero of them are rich. It’s not woman. It’s you.

januaryphilosopher · 2022-01-01T11:24:59+00:00

Why do you care about whether women who you will only ever communicate with through the internet are attracted to you?

1Here4Bach · 2022-01-01T15:24:24+00:00

Who comes here for validation?

UEMcGill · 2022-01-01T19:11:33+00:00

Ive tried so hard to explain my experience and struggles to multiple women on forums and private chats

Maybe because they see through you bullshitting yourself and find it wholey unattractive?

Clean_Level_4476 · 2022-01-01T15:02:50+00:00

No shit. You just realizing this today?

2022-01-01T16:20:23+00:00

any more compassion or attraction to me.

So you want to be rewarded with a sex cookie for talking to women? Why would you explaining your pathetic life make women more attracted to you?

NewWayNow · 2022-01-01T16:47:06+00:00

Well, this was an underlying principle of the RP all along.

Dealunbreaker · 2022-01-01T20:05:58+00:00

yeah that sounds super healthy and not at all like it's going to backfire and create violent incels. yep. you're right on the mark with this one.

/s

MarjieJ98354 · 2022-01-01T21:33:12+00:00

I don't even have to read this thread. I've been spent a couple of years now reading about "exemplary" average to below average looking men crying about how they can't get pussy from any women regardless of the women's looks. They can't get pussy from model looking women. They can't pussy from average to below average looking woman that are in their league because they hate these women for not looking like models and refuse to put in the same effort on these women because they don't look like models. Of course these days, models are not getting men's best efforts cause they "gold diggers"! These days men manipulate ALLLL women for bad sex only because that may the only sex they get. I'm just gonna throw my shit out here and see how many men are going to give any kind of fuck about me!!!

I'm a highly intelligent single 58 yo black woman with deformed fingers and bells palsy. I have no kids. I've worked all my life and I'm self sufficient. I've been married twice, both to foreigners that were basically looking for green cards. I have few friends. I don't date because yes, 90% of the people I come in contact with will reject me; 6% will use me for my resources. The 4% that I had relationship with I was not attracted to and were basically sympathy relationship. No they didn't work.

Now you men want to risk what's left of my mental health to go out and pursue you and risk what little peace I have. Now which one of you crying muthafuckers want to date me!!

Scarypaperplates · 2022-01-01T21:40:16+00:00

I mean, theres been women on here who have said they like "short" men/are attracted to personality/like virgins etc and have just been berated and shouted down and told their life is on easy mode, for quite a few of us its like talking to a brick wall. All of what you said could be said for some of the women who have posted here (but I think many have left now).

neil_anblome · 2022-01-01T21:40:37+00:00

Women are conditioned to be attracted to strong and confident men and disclosing weakness and vulnerability runs counter to that. However, I think it's essential part of building a relationship. You don't really know someone until you've argued with them and you can't get close to someone who doesn't reveal how they feel. It's insecurity that prevents us from making this step.

BATTERY__AZIZ · 2022-01-01T12:19:15+00:00

Men need to stop explaining themselves to women on forums like this and expecting any sort of validation.

I think the point isn't so validation vs. simply asking women to be honest. The virtue signaling from Reddit women is fascinating. Even on an anonymous message board, it's so much of "What would perfect person say so that I look in the best possible light?"

I like the way PPD holds a mirror up to highlight the massive differences between what women say with their words and what they say with their actions. Chadfishing experiments tell you everything.

creekcrystall · 2022-01-01T10:11:49+00:00

Men on here hate women yet simultaneously want compassion. It don’t work like that, homeboy. Take your misogynistic, cry baby ass on somewhere lmfao

CFinCanada · 2022-01-01T13:27:58+00:00

I don't deny that men are having struggles. I sometimes even feel sorry for some of those men individually (although men's favourite thing to do is to arrogantly flex; as a group, they are not very sympathetic).

What I do say is that on a macro level, men create their own problems. On a macro level, they have incentivized these problems for other men. What that means is on a macro level, men deserve it. That doesn't mean every individual man does, and again, that's where I am sympathetic, but it does mean that men as a whole do.

I can feel sympathy for individual men who don't hate or blame women, but those are rare in this community.

So I'm really not interested in hearing how it's all women's fault when that is objectively not true.

logogop · 2022-01-01T10:17:00+00:00

Lol facts, I'm only to get a laugh out of the mentally deranged. Once I'm bored I'll be gone.

lostwanderer28 · 2022-01-01T19:22:46+00:00

I very rarely see good advices on reddit and this is one of them. Absolutely nailed it!

Rogue_Leviathan · 2022-01-01T14:41:06+00:00

This man speaks truth. Time people realized this. There is no use Debating on it. Just accept and move on with life. Try to find other things in life. I have slowly come to accept that I will be unloved. Hence why I am trying to focus on things other than relationship. Main problem is I come from a Country and Culture that is very conservative so I have difficulties explaining this to family and friends who are all asking when I am going to get married. Dosent help that most of my friends got married after college and that was 5 yrs back. 😅. Of course that is not a free pass to be an asshole to people in general(or women in particular).

Snacksbreak · 2022-01-01T14:53:44+00:00

No one is loved unconditionally and whining about that is silly.

EarnestAccord · 2022-01-01T10:27:19+00:00

Seems maybe you're struggling with taking full responsibility for your life. I don't say that to shame you, but what are you looking for others to give you that you dont already have? I've never understood the need for validation. Why would someone look to other people to mirror back that they're experiences, feelings or opinions are real. You need other people to allow you to have these things. What do they have that you don't? Seems unhealthy and codependent.

JacobMoogberg69 · 2022-01-01T17:47:37+00:00

Feeling sorry for myself has always gotten me a ton of pussy.

shrickertt · 2022-01-01T18:38:42+00:00

this was heartbreaking to read, but it's true.

as a man a woman will never care about your hardships, struggle, or suffering under discrimination. it's best to stop trying to explain to women how badly things get for you and just keep moving forward. they do not care. they never will, and in the rare chance that they do, they will discredit and weaponize EVERYTHING when they have the chance to. stay safe, and stay healthy.

chingness · 2022-01-01T18:48:44+00:00

The thing is you’re just not attractive so like what can women do about that? Seriously? Honestly what do you want US to do about the fact you are not attractive? It’s not our problem The women who try to listen to you are being nice but they don’t want to sleep with you so you resent even their giving you the time of day. We can’t win really. I mean neither can you but for real unless we lie and say we find you attractive there really isn’t some magic way for us to help you. Really think about that. What could we really ever do if we just don’t find you attractive?

Consistent_Wear_1224 · 2022-01-01T20:59:29+00:00

You cannot fool women into feeling attracted to you by making them pity you. I wonder who sold you this dream, some PuA?

Expensive-Guitar3609 · 2022-01-01T10:31:14+00:00

Honestly, I don't know why dudes cry so much, but it's annoying and quite shameful.

Idk why some guys think women care if they can't get laid but they don't, and IMO throwing a pitty party is the shortest way to dry a woman's pussy like a desert.

If it wasn't because in these "pills" stuff you can read some good insights and advice from time to time, I would strongly advocate for these forums to get banned.

Dude, it makes us all look bad, you look bad because you can't get laid and I can't get laid because I'm one of yours. Your tears are cock-bloquing us all. Chill the fuck out please, stop the man-complaining.

Also, don't ask women for help or solutions, they can't even help themselves.

sweetpurplepeach · 2022-01-01T09:49:57+00:00

stfu and stop bitching already my god 🤮

mgtow_fire · 2022-01-01T13:01:54+00:00

this

social_mule · 2022-01-01T18:42:33+00:00

Men need to stop explaining themselves to women period whether it's on this forum, other forums or out and about in the real world. Even if they wanted to help most women are insanely unqualified to do so. Most will give you some new age, astrological, power crystals and pixie dust laced hocus pocus.

If a man truly needs help resolving emotional issues he should seek out a qualified therapist. If he can't afford a qualified therapist he should seek out a reputable support group for people going through the same or similar issues.

Tequila_Shot_Cigar · 2022-01-01T13:52:55+00:00

I despise the misogyny in this sub.

Be a better person.

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SUS_pended · 2022-01-01T15:43:56+00:00

Saving this post. This was better than all motivational speeches I've ever heard

DeliciousPussyNectar · 2022-01-01T16:15:32+00:00

Who’s here for that? Im here to get called a virgin incel and laugh in real life.

angels-fan · 2022-01-01T16:48:27+00:00

Cimerone is the only woman I've seen on here that truly cares about the plight of incels.

places0 · 2022-01-01T22:10:13+00:00

The only reason men come to forums like this or reddit in general

Is to shitpost

Yeet

And then theres the other 1% of the time we come here to educate younger men, but mostly shit posting

cbsepts · 2022-01-02T03:36:08+00:00

People take these boards way too seriously. Come in....say your piece...and keep it moving.

Better question is why are you seeking validation from Strangers?

Title	Men need to stop explaining themselves to women on forums like this and expecting any sort of validation.
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Date	January 1, 2022 9:48 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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