If "your male friends want to smash", how would things change if she said wanted you to pay for it?

NockerJoe · 2022-01-31T17:24:33+00:00

If he's your friend and wants to smash, odds are good he wants a relationship. You charging $200 for a fuck where you implicitly don't even want to be there otherwise would probably ruin the friendship in a catastrophic fashion even if he did take it, and I think most guys wouldn't.

thetruthishere_ · 2022-01-31T17:50:41+00:00

As someone that does escort I would not. Id only charge clients that contact mr for my service. I do not see men in my civi life as clients.

I also dont allow men to just do me favors. I will alway 'pay' for the help be Id I buy them dinner or do a favor in return. One hand washes the other and Im not into using people to get stuff or get things done.

MisterFlipside · 2022-01-31T17:38:24+00:00

Nah. Im not desperate enough to smash someone who is only in it for the money. Its a mental thing, if you arent turned on by me as a person I dont want to be with you.

Plus I have a strong aversion to being exploited.

Square_Inflation_534 · 2022-01-31T19:39:00+00:00

The country my grandparents live you can fuck a genuine 10/10 from head to toe that smells like strawberries and horniness pheromones for less than $30. Why would I pay $200 to fuck one friend. That'll probably be unenthusiastic anyway. Actually that's a good question, OP how into the sex will she seem?

StonedSpaceCadet · 2022-01-31T18:08:45+00:00

Interesting, I've had this exact scenario before. I have a guy friend whose company I genuinely enjoy, we tried dating and it didn't work out, no harm no foul. I thought nothing of it until one day he offers me $50 to blow him. I told him that was chump change and it'd have to be AT LEAST $250. He was willing to pay it with extra stipulations, but I was not comfortable with those stipulations and passed. Now he's trying to earn my touch by giving me more weed than I'm paying for. Like bro, I wanna video games and smoke some blunts with you but instead he's off making things weird :/

flapperfemmefatale · 2022-01-31T17:31:26+00:00

I'd need way more than $200 lol

wtknight · 2022-01-31T18:08:57+00:00

Most of the guys who do friendzone game want relationships with consistent sex. They don’t want one time hook-ups. Guys who want one time hook-ups with women whom they befriend will usually let their desires be known fairly quickly.

cantwifeahoe · 2022-02-01T01:33:07+00:00

If I’m paying for pussy it needs to be from someone that does it for a living

Slootando · 2022-01-31T17:40:34+00:00

My sense is that this kind of soft prostitution already commonly happens among the non-UMC, especially in non-Western countries.

Relevant apocryphal Winston Churchill story:

Churchill: "Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?"

Socialite: "My goodness, Mr. Churchill... Well, I suppose... we would have to discuss terms, of course... "

Churchill: "Would you sleep with me for five pounds?"

Socialite: "Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!"

Churchill: "Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price.”

backcourtjester · 2022-01-31T17:50:43+00:00

You don’t pay hookers to fuck, you pay them to leave. I can’t imagine it would be the same with someone you’d consider a friend. Friendship shouldn’t be transactional. I’ve never accepted money from friends unless it was an “everybody chip in for gas, food, tixkets etc” type of thing or they legitimately hired me to do what I do professionally. If I do a big favor like drive someone to LAX or help them move, it is repayable in beer or food…that we will be enjoying together

2022-01-31T19:00:29+00:00

I’ve never had a female friend but if this was their reaction, I’d probably do it. Asking for what you want in exchange, is the most direct way to do things.

Intrepid_Place5390 · 2022-01-31T19:22:34+00:00

she wants to pay me? maybe

2022-02-01T18:48:30+00:00

I’d be down and I know most guys would

If that werent true OFs and prostitution wouldnt be as big as it is.

DerekMorganBAU · 2022-01-31T17:20:12+00:00

$200??? Who am I fucking Helen Of Troy???

The friendship WAS the investment. Time money and emotional energy to get to know someone.

That price would scare away all but only the most desperate of guys

Confident_Spinach967 · 2022-01-31T17:47:06+00:00

prostituting yourself to a friend is just trashy on so many levels. If they need money that badly I could just loan some to her.

I would cut ties with my friends if they ever asked that, since I would never be sure they were actually my friend to begin with and were just putting up a act to get my money.

TotalTravesty · 2022-01-31T18:24:03+00:00

My first thought would be, “Why is my friend charging less than the most disgusting unattractive crackwhore in town?”

But if you’re the sentimental type, I can see why you would pay your hot friend for sex when you wouldn’t pay a random prostitute. But if you’re the sentimental type, you’d probably still be unfulfilled since she still won’t be romantically attracted to you.

I’m not the pay-for-play type in any sense so maybe I’m not best suited to answer. But it’s an interesting thought.

WholeCelebration4567 · 2022-01-31T19:00:55+00:00

I would say 50/50. Guys are more complicated then we let on really. I would say a good half of the guy friends are only in it for sex, and the other half is in it for an actual relationship.

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KingWhoCared86 · 2022-01-31T18:15:34+00:00

A couple of my female friends I’d give them a grand max to smash.

kyjolski · 2022-01-31T18:32:26+00:00

tism intesifies

motherseffinjones · 2022-01-31T19:41:21+00:00

For me that would be a big no, not that I’m against people who sell or pay for sex. I wouldn’t want something like that to get out in any social circle I was in.

I think for most men it would be a mixed bag, Im saying 60/40 split with the majority saying no.

MarBitt · 2022-01-31T20:06:01+00:00

I would probably laugh, give her money, and wouldn't be interested in having sex with her anymore.

OldSimpsonsisbetter · 2022-01-31T20:07:39+00:00

I'd pay £20 perhaps, maybe £30 (I'm from UK, we don't use dollars). Anything more and that's too much. You're paying to fuck a woman who isn't really into you, so I'm not going to pay lots of money for that.

PlayfulLawyer · 2022-01-31T20:43:04+00:00

Some of these dudes have been in the friend zone so long and simp so hard, the woman in question would more than likely make a nice bit of change off of it, and he would pay for the girlfriend experience

throwaway042994 · 2022-01-31T20:55:58+00:00

If you're going to charge for it, you better be hot. When men are paying for it directly, only the most attractive women get all the business while the rest get ignored. The guys doing expensive favors for their female friends are idiots.

Willispin · 2022-01-31T21:27:56+00:00

Once you add money it's not the same. Paying for sex is for suckers. It's advanced masturbation. If she will only do it for money she does not want to be there. So for your 200$ you get consent but not desire. I like to think most guys would be a no.

wonka__vision · 2022-01-31T21:29:07+00:00

Offering sex for money would actually be cheaper for the man when his time is taken into consideration. All the time saved from having to play the courtship game could be better utilized in more productive endeavors.

The downside was that if she was actually a prostitute, the chances of her having an STD would be high.

DeJuanBallard · 2022-01-31T22:29:20+00:00

Had a girl offer to do stuff with me in highschool for 150 , I was immediately grossed out. Really helped me get over my little micro crush on her.

ruboyuri · 2022-02-01T00:13:35+00:00

Since dick offers are often unilateral, then monetary compensation is fair game too

MrMushySauce · 2022-02-01T02:16:36+00:00

This seems really insulting because, while people are okay with covert signals that they're less valuable than someone else, they're not remotely as okay with overt signals of the same.

Rough_Collections · 2022-02-01T02:54:56+00:00

These scenarios are ridiculous for blue pill & red pill guys alike because blue pill only want to smash when they have spent thousands to get an "emotional" connection and red pill will complain she gave it to Chad for free. The issue is women have no set pricing on intimacy, so unless she is telling every man regardless of attractive, these are my prices. It would never work, but I think the opposite is true I think if they know she is a pro or suger baby they would pay and wouldn't have any issues doing it or issues being friends after. Men, in general, don't mind pricing; they just hate unfair pricing.

On_the_Cliff · 2022-02-01T04:20:55+00:00

It stops being purely a friendship situation once doing anything only in exchange for money gets involved.

OfCatandPagan · 2022-02-01T05:10:05+00:00

Is having shitty friends common?

DrinkItInMan11 · 2022-02-01T07:35:10+00:00

If she's making me pay I'd go spend that $200 on a hooker who's probably better, if I'm gonna spend money on sex I'd rather spend money on someone who actually knows what they're doing.

cryptothrow2 · 2022-02-01T10:09:07+00:00

I've heard of women charging to show up for a date. I don't pay for sex period. Notwithstanding the idea everyone does more or less. And most people don't sell sex in thier daily circle.

Remember there are social and market norms

Mark_Freed · 2022-02-01T17:48:09+00:00

I think most guys would pay like 50 or 100 bucks. More than that it would depend on how rich he was.

It also depends if they have moral qualms about prostitution itself. If they feel like she was offering it as a trap and it would ruin their friendship, etc.

Teflon08191 · 2022-01-31T19:45:59+00:00

Unless that's what the guys were after in the first place, I imagine most would not be into it. When I learned a female friend of mine was...er, "open for business", the only thing I felt was a loss of respect for her as a friend, and a revulsion towards the idea of paying her for sex.

Some of her other friends took her up on it. I doubt they respect her as much as they used to either though.

Lateralanouncer · 2022-01-31T20:03:28+00:00

Somthing about paying turns me on. Dropping the money on the ground for her to pick up on her knees looking up at me with her eye shadow running down her face after.... or throwing it at her when she leaves. Then the instinct of not wanting to pay for something that is worthless. I guess when your rich and the money doesn't mean much ie $500 is change laying around and in your mind you dropping coins on the ground then yes.

I have had the scenario the other way. A woman I didn't want to sleep with tried everything and she had something of mine and wouldn't give it back till I fucked her.

TheGweatandTewwible · 2022-01-31T21:16:04+00:00

I think most men probably wouldn't, for a few reasons. First, the illusion of that "relationship material" girl will fade away immediately and most guys will be turned off, especially if they're in the friend zone. Then comes the stigma of paying for sex which most men would be averse to. Thirdly, they'll probably think, "Damn, does she do this with every other guy?" and the thought of STDs might scare him off.

Personally? I'd check to see if there were cameras. Then, if the girl was hot and I had the leftover $$, I'd go for it. Saves time up front and at least we both know what we're here for. However, I'd work to actually get her attracted to me cuz having a gal do it robotically just for the sake of money gives me the creeps.

nexLyfe · 2022-01-31T21:55:53+00:00

From my experience female “friends” who are willing to compromise in such a way genuinely likes being friends with the guy offering them money for sex, but aren’t really sexually attracted to them. They feel comfortable enough with the guy to perform a sex act on their “bro”, but only on a transactional “I scratch your back, you scratch mine’s” type of basis.

The female friend is usually really desperate to maintain a friendship and receive attention from what’s essentially their only close guy friend, making them willing to make such a compromise. But such a friendship as you can imagine is toxic and opens the door for the guy friend to exploit the female friend even more for his gratification, using his friendship, attention, or blackmailing with intimate knowledge of her as leverage.

_HEDONISM_BOT · 2022-01-31T22:07:37+00:00

There’s escorts that charge $3,000+ per hour and are booked for months.

Your Pennies are adorable.

livs4dietdrpepper · 2022-01-31T23:39:19+00:00

I’ll stick with free rides to the airport for the pleasure of being in my company

Title	If "your male friends want to smash", how would things change if she said wanted you to pay for it?
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Date	January 31, 2022 5:16 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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