Restriction of male sexuality?

wtknight · 2021-03-19T19:17:02+00:00

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SyrusDrake · 2021-03-19T16:11:02+00:00

This isnt hyperbolic.

This isn't an attempt to make "different" men or nerds or Aspies play by "normie" rules. This is intended to keep them from playing at all. This is intended to force these men out of society.

This is all intended to marginalize and ostracize those men, to force them out, and to make them sit on the sexual sidelines. This is an attempt to keep those men away from women and to desexualize these men so that women don't have to deal with them. This is an attempt to criminalize and demonize anything and everything they do, so as to control them and force them into seclusion.

All for the purpose of sanitizing society of "undesirables" so women don't have to see these men, talk to them, deal with them, or address them. What you're seeing here is nothing short of gender cleansing.

Go away you asshole ugly men. Just pick up my garbage, fix my computer and smartphone, change the oil in my car, and make sure the power and water and internet work. Otherwise stay the fuck away from me. You're interfering with my mani/pedi appointment, my Tinder time, and my fuckbuddy time.

Snoo52682 · 2021-03-19T16:57:46+00:00

Sex is a social, interpersonal act, so if you have poor or atypical social/interpersonal skills, sex is one of the things you will struggle with. It's unfortunate, but it isn't anyone's fault.

The complaint of a porn shortage is ... unique. There's more porn out there than ever before.

xFallacyx69 · 2021-03-19T16:37:40+00:00

If you believe that, simply because you have a penis rather than a vagina between your legs, you need to “prove” yourself worthy to the opposite sex, you’re thinking about it counter-productively.

The best you can do is treat women the same as men until they show you they want to be put into a different group (friend, romantic, etc).

SaBahRub · 2021-03-19T16:23:16+00:00

We’re not going to take away your porn, jesus.

You do know that sex involves another person, right? I’m afraid there’s no way around that inconvenient fact

XtoDoubt · 2021-03-19T16:28:10+00:00

As Royce once said, the goal of feminism is to restrict male sexuality as much as possible while unrestricting female sexuality as much as possible. It's best to just ignore it rather than try to reason with it.

GGMcThroway · 2021-03-19T16:33:29+00:00

2D porn is fine as long as you don't base your expectations IRL off it.

RL porn is fine as long as you don't base your expectations IRL off it.

Escorts are fine as long as you abide by their rules and don't base your expectations of real relationships off them.

If you weren't properly socialized as a child, you have my sympathy and I highly recommend therapy to help better your social skills. Being aware of a lot of social norms allows you to be somewhat accurate in predicting what is likely to be seen as positive and what isn't. If you disagree with a norm, think about why so you can articulate it and therefore more easily find compatible prospective partners (or at least not waste more time than you have to).

A lot of problems non-neurotypical (and even some neurotypical) men have with dating can be boiled down to social maladaptation and stunted emotional development. And a lot of women have the same problems. The most you can do is communicate as much as possible with each other to make sure you're both on the same wavelength and that no one's going to have expectations that the other isn't even considering.

nemma88 · 2021-03-19T17:37:12+00:00

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PlayfulLawyer · 2021-03-19T16:21:52+00:00

Because equality was never the goal lol, the only way to stop these restrictions is to just fight back and not give a damn if somebody's offended by the fact that the new Wonder Woman comic has her tits as bigger than usual, and do you have to vote with your wallet and time against these companies that cave into those weirdos.

As far as actual sexual interaction, when it comes to prostitutes and really just living your General Life, it only makes sense to vote for people and measures that shoot for maximum freedom, but a lot of people are against that so we know how that story usually goes, and yes most women are The Gatekeepers of sex so you do have to navigate a certain way in order to get that that's how it's always been

Now over the past week I saw a number of post in here talking about bisexual women, now I don't believe the majority of people are bisexual or anything close like that but even though we're probably as sexually accepting as we've been there's a number of guys who feel restricted more so than women on what they can do, over the past year I've been in a casually but monogamous covid fuck-buddy relationship (that's grown more serious I will say) but she's a trans woman, her dick is even bigger than mine no lie lol , now I've never really spend my life caring about what people think or social stigmas but even to an extent I was a little hesitant to pursue that relationship but now but we have an excellent time together

JohnnyMnemo · 2021-03-19T18:37:59+00:00

I think your headline is more interesting than the topic.

Why, when men take their shirt off or show more flesh than their face and hands, is the automatic "ewww" reaction and the men apologizing, but women are encouraged to take off as much as possible? Can't men love their bodies as well?

Why are women "empowered" for having vibrators, but men are "pervy" for having fleshlights?

Why do women get to publicly embrace their sexuality, but men are shamed for admitting that they have sexual impulses at all?

REEE_XD · 2021-03-19T18:39:31+00:00

I do see what you’re saying here and it’s a bit of a problem to me too. I hate having to put on an act to be sexually successful. Either you put on an act or you get so caught up in the act that you actually believe that’s your personality.

You put the hentai thing into perspective too and it makes me wonder why real, possibly expoloitative porn, is still more socially acceptable than something animated even to the people who claim to care about how men get their nut off. Which doesn’t make sense to me either, why do you care if some basement dweller actually jerks off to fictional 900 year olds that are supposed to resemble children?

John_Oakman · 2021-03-19T19:05:00+00:00

It's the validation market. The suffering of LVMs (especially from lack of sexual needs meet) makes everyone else feel better about themselves. This is why even the options of reducing sexual needs (either through religious or other esoteric means) are shamed and generally seen as degenerate/deviant/sus. It is the repression that makes their suffering valuable on the validation market.

Thus even solutions that aren't exploitative won't be implemented, because it is not in the interest of the haves to let the have nots stop caring about having those things.

If all that sounds nonsensical, think of it as why poverty won't be solved even if it's telling the poor to be less materialistic. Since that would make wealth lose its value as those suffering would start suffering less because they don't want it as badly as before.

LabNo3096 · 2021-03-19T16:58:58+00:00

Men have restricted their sexuality because it's very bad for society and civilisation to have men competing with each other and no rules. Look at history of ancient China and ancient India. Those wars were bloody and have no rules.

Then you had monogamous Europeans (at least at the surface) wiping the floor with every other race and culture at least twice: Romans and British. All of that was possible because men could travel far (and conquer) without worrying much that their wifes will be fucked by other men (it happened but such a woman was ostracised by society).

Currently women have 'liberared themselves from patriachy', but most men are still following the 'provider' strategy (at least most of current 30+ men). However, I can see that current 20yo boys are more and more blackpilled. If not in this generation, then in the next, men will 'liberate themselves' and that will be very sorry view. Go to West Africa and see how inequal society is there - there are a few very rich men with their side girls (continously rotated and replaced when they getting close to 30) and everyone else stuck in poverty.

The truth is that male sexuality is much more dangerous. I don't mean those 80% of average men (because they can't do much damage), but those top 20% who are noticable and can mown girls one after the other. I had my two-years period (after being cheated on) where I fucked lots of girls (around 1/3rd of them in LTR, at least two were married), broken many hearts and was awful human being overall. I am just a 7, imagine what 8 or 9 man can do. I came back to my senses and married eventually, but imagine a man like that who does it for life.

Some of you will reply that polygamy is the way. Let me ask you something - do you think that one even the most alpha man can deal with a few desperate guys? Nope. We simply don't want to came back to ancient times and wars.

SyrusDrake · 2021-03-19T17:29:20+00:00

Just living in society makes you "play by normie rules". It isn't only about dating, it's about education, work, almost all other social interactions. And it's pretty hard to live without them, because you still have to pay for things, get income, go to the doctor/dentist from time to time.

And if we count just voices as attempts to regulate men's sexuality, we can say pretty much the same about women's sexuality as well. It will have its own twist, of course, because our problems are different, but one still could make it seem that there are a lot of attempts to restrict it.

Moreover, you forget that somewhat sex-positive society is pretty new for us. Back then it was regulated even harder maybe with an exception for prostitutes. Depending on a country a man without enough money couldn't marry, because he couldn't afford bride price, extra marital affairs were heavily shamed and sometimes even punished, no easily accessible porn and it also was illegal in some places, even sex in a couple was regulated by some religious directions.

What we're seeing now is far away from it and I'd say that it's attempts to find the middle ground, a compromise between personal freedom to express and explore one's sexuality and safety of others.

Edit: and, well, you've exaugurated your points in order to suit your idea. The problem is that all of them can be argued about and without their support your whole point doesn't make much sense.

Pilling_it · 2021-03-19T17:40:59+00:00

I wasn't even given the real rulebook to begin with lmao.

At least now it makes sense and I can know what I'm going into.

Henry_Blair · 2021-03-19T17:46:30+00:00

You live under opperssion. Good morning. Read the book Lovism.

Karmanger · 2021-03-19T18:48:16+00:00

All you can do is await the mass production of custom sex robots.

2021-03-19T19:25:10+00:00

It’s always greatly benefitted men to bend the rules which are prescribed to them. But now, it’s essential.

I seriously don’t know how any fully blue pilled men get laid. To be honest, in my experience I’ve observed that most of them don’t. Many men who claim to hate incels are in fact incels themselves and are projecting their own insecurities.

Blue-pilled men typically either date below their own attractiveness level, or just accept being whipped and having 0 control in their relationships.

It’s overwhelmingly the case from what I’ve noticed. Almost any man who is highly successful with women and fully in control of his sex life is at least to some degree red-pilled, even if he doesn’t describe himself that way.

Bandit174 · 2021-03-19T16:42:33+00:00

So either you express your entire sexuality by rubbing one out to nothing but your imagination

But then you're objectifying a woman in your head!😤

Joking aside, I do agree that no matter what avenue you pursure it will be met with some criticism and basically they do want unnatractive or nerdy men out of sight/out of mind. However I don't see it going beyond that. I would be shocked if they ever sucessfully get rid of porn or prostitution. Pornhub still exists and so do countless other sites. Xvideos is better than pornhub anyways imo, there are also countless women posting nudes on Gonewild reddits too. So yeah there's criticism but thats all it will be for the forseeable future.

nyauknow · 2021-03-19T16:44:15+00:00

Literally not even drawn pixels are safe from scrutiny

Good job OP you're very good with words. You should post this everywhere. A lot of people wouldn't be able to articulate this well.

NinjaOfTheSouth · 2021-03-19T16:03:58+00:00

It’s because we’re turning more into a feminine society as a whole. Male sexuality is seen as bad as it takes “advantage “ of women. Basically anything that isn’t pro women is seen as bad, cause it doesn’t really benefit them. See what I’m saying?

philomexa · 2021-03-19T16:18:48+00:00

Too bad, so sad. 🤷‍♀️

Y'all haven't done much to help your case along the way.

2021-03-19T19:26:50+00:00

It's all based on the Blue Pill narrative that women are giving up sex and men are giving up resources. The thing for average and below average men is that the Beta Providership gig is over.

Something is going to have to give. Sure, it's fine women want to share Chadcock among themselves until such time they MIGHT "settle down" (settle) for some Beta Chump to fund the Baby-years after which she'll divorce rape his ass.

But for men who are not socially or sexually appealing, there has to be an outlet.

Feminists would have these men simply sit and suffer in silence. Ironically, these are the same people who want to make it a crime for a man to "with-hold intimacy" in an intimate relationship, while still defending a woman's right to with-hold or refuse intimacy at any time for any reason. (Feminism always floats on a boat of hypocrisy and double-standards).

Look at the sex robot concept. Before prototypes even existed, already a radical feminist is trying to ban them. (See: Campaign Against Sex Robots)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andreamorris/2018/09/26/meet-the-activist-fighting-sex-robots/?sh=78f206956e79

At the end of the day, they'll want to make it illegal to fantasize about a women you once knew (or saw at the mall) while tugging your man meat. I mean, do you have consent to think about that's person's likeness? (This wouldn't surprise me.)

The OP is correct. This is about policing male sexual nonpersons who are allowed to work and serve society but not get any sexual pleasure. The formula is "all females and only approved males" are invited to the party.

nyclaurco · 2021-03-19T18:37:12+00:00

pornography is less about male sexuality and more about male paraphilia. you’re watching two people have sex that don’t involve you whatsoever. you’re a peeping tom. much of porn is of teenagers, trafficked people, mentally ill people, or revenge porn, so you’re a voyeur at least some of the time and may as well peek into a neighbor’s window and watch him have sex with his wife. even if it’s ethnically sourced, consensual, fine, and good, you’re still jerking off to some other guy having sex. a ridiculous amount of boys have erectile dysfunction now because they discovered porn as children and now prematurely ejaculate or have death grip. it’s not normal.

noafrochamplusamurai · 2021-03-19T18:49:18+00:00

This seems like an entitlement fallacy. You are correct in that you don't have to play the game if you don't want to. However, you don't get to be upset if you don't get any prizes like the contestants in the game. The avenues of sexual stimulation aren't as cut off as you think.

A big part of my personality is being nerdy, I wouldn't consider myself aspie( although I do some of the traits) but I'm definitely neurodivergent. Yet I have been successful in the dating/social life. I don't put women on pedestal, I don't buy drinks for random women as a way to flirt with them. I will never subscribe to an onlyfans. I don't even go to very many bars, I'm not great at taking pictures for dating profiles. All that and I still find sucess, and you can do it also.

In the original Star Trek movie, they highlighted that captain Kirk, was the only starlet cadet that ever passed the Kobayashi Maru exam. It was a role play scenario that cadets acted out on a starfleet bridge simulator. It was a surprise attack simulation, that was randomized by an AI, everytime a command was given, the AI would counteract with another problem. This would continue until the ship was eventually destroyed. It was designed to test them under pressure in a no win situation. There was no solution to the test. Everyone failed, except the Kirk. He got access to the AI before the test, and he changed the parameters. You need to be like kirk, change the rules of the game to fit your skillset. That part will be unique to you, make your own rules, and adjust accordingly until you get success.

If that fails, join a swingers party group. Half the work is done for you. It's just a bunch of horny people that wanna fuck. Being astute at gamesmanship isn't required. Every region has a club, there's probably at least one in your town. Give this a look over

www.fetlife.com

www.sls.com

Those links are NSFW

flapperfemmefatale · 2021-03-19T16:45:54+00:00

You're not entitled to sexual interaction. If you can't find someone to consensually fuck you, that's not the problem of the people rejecting you. My pussy is not available for charity events.

SyrusDrake · 2021-03-19T17:25:52+00:00

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BioStu · 2021-03-19T19:06:24+00:00

Back in the day, every town had a few places that were inns/restaurants/gambling halls/live music venues/bars/brothels. We should go back to that. No reason I shouldn't be able to check into the Red Roof Inn and order some working girls off the menu.

SyrusDrake · 2021-03-19T19:31:46+00:00

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Learningtolove2021 · 2021-03-19T20:27:47+00:00

I wish you hadn't removed your post, fortunately I read it before you did. As a woman who has had social difficulties at times in my life and has felt unattractive at certain stages, I have some sympathy for young men who feel like the deck is stacked against them romantically. But, to completely opt out because you believe there is no hope is to reduce women to a Stacy stereotype that simply isn't true. There is a lid for every pot, truly. I know the process of finding that person can suck, but that's life, and if you find them the relationship can be richly rewarding. The idea that you have consigned yourself to jerking off to 2D images that barely resemble actual humans and are robbing yourself of the pleasure and fulfillment that comes from an intimate relationship with another person makes me deeply sad for you and for all the young men who feel this way. Most of the best things in life come as the result of hard work and perseverance. Romantic relationships that are functional long term are no exception. Are people so lazy now that they just don't want to bother interacting with other humans? The implications of this for society long term are quite troubling, and it's funny you mentioned 2D images because the Japanese are on the leading edge of the sort of dysfunctional culture that results from relations between the sexes having soured to the point where most people can't be bothered to marry or have children. It's a sad cautionary tale that could easily become the story here too at the rate things are going. I'm quite glad that I grew up pre-internet and some men in my cohort are still capable of being able to engage in a normal sexual relationship with a real woman.

The other important thing to note here is that there is no conspiracy, among women or anyone else. Several simultaneous developments, including the internet, assortative mating, the rise in autism spectrum disorders, globalization, social media, helicopter parenting, and probably a number of others, coalesced to create a situation in which a subset of men has essentially decided to drop out of society in terms of human interaction. Can we reverse this? I don't know. But if we don't, the consequences could be dire.

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2021-03-19T18:30:14+00:00

It kind of seems like with sexually dimorphic species, one sexuality is limited as a consequence of the other's being less restricted or unrestricted. Just a hypothesis though.

nemma88 · 2021-03-19T18:41:25+00:00

I would think porn, and the effects of addiction to it etc are still going through the motions of settling after the boom. Things like 2D in the UK for instance can be child porn if it depicts a child (by reasonable person standard, not what made up age you say they are lol). As the boom happened relatively recently there's still a lot of studies being done on the subject but it's a fear of anti social behaviours stemming from normalisation of watching fucked up porn.

30 years ago you were a complete wierdo if you watched incest for instance.

Title	Restriction of male sexuality?
Author	SyrusDrake
Upvotes	30
Comments	248
Date	March 19, 2021 3:56 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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