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[–]small-pp-small-smvDih Pilled Man [score hidden] 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Rule_Number_7No Pill Woman [score hidden] 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Reasonable_Mouse789No Pill Man [score hidden] 8 months ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man [score hidden] 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb [score hidden] 8 months ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Past-Shoulder-631No Pill man [score hidden] 8 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]Reasonable_Mouse789No Pill Man [score hidden] 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Past-Shoulder-631No Pill man [score hidden] 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Old_cress3828No pill FEMALE 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (10 children) | Copy Link

[–]Past-Shoulder-631No Pill man [score hidden] 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]grillopieThats like, your opinion Man [score hidden] 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Old_cress3828No pill FEMALE [score hidden] 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb [score hidden] 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man [score hidden] 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Old_cress3828No pill FEMALE 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]Old_cress3828No pill FEMALE 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Past-Shoulder-631No Pill man -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago (28 children) | Copy Link

Women there's something you desperately need to realise:

Men WANT sex. Men really want sex. If a guy likes you and is attracted to you, he will want to fuck you.

But if you give him that sex right away, then he will lose respect for you. He will lose interest. He will have gotten what he wants early on and it will feel empty, he won't want to pursue you.

So yes there is a paradox in that men desperately want to have sex with you but having that sex with you will make them lose interest in you.

What is the solution? Play hard to get. Make them work hard to get the sex. Don't fall into their arms easily. Make them chase you. Make them obsess over you. Make them question if you like them back or not. If they want you, they will work hard to pursue you and chase you.

And only at the very end, once you've got them nailed down, once you have something official in place and you are both on the same page and like each other, thats when you have sex for the first time.

Make it worth the reward. Make it worth the pursuit.

This is not being prude or anti-sex, its just understanding male biology and sexual dynamics.

Men enjoy the chase. Men enjoy the pursuit. Its like, why do men enjoy challenging video games and not easy comforting shit on the lowest difficulty? The challenge makes the reward more valuable.

I will get trashed and called a sexist and incel for saying this, but I am giving you free advice, from a male perspective, on how to pin down a man.

[–]Pro-IDGAFgenX Pill Man [score hidden] 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]kalashhhhhhhhChad's WOMAN 8 points9 points10 points 8 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]Past-Shoulder-631No Pill man -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]kalashhhhhhhhChad's WOMAN [score hidden] 8 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]Past-Shoulder-631No Pill man [score hidden] 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]kalashhhhhhhhChad's WOMAN [score hidden] 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]PopeoathRed Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]ta06012022Man 5 points6 points7 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]Past-Shoulder-631No Pill man 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]Past-Shoulder-631No Pill man 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]Past-Shoulder-631No Pill man 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]autistic_cool_kidChad 38yo (Man) | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed 5 points6 points7 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]grillopieThats like, your opinion Man 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]ThatBitchARetired Promiscuous Woman 7 points8 points9 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 9 points10 points11 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Fancy-Scallion-6682Purple Pill Man 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 6 points7 points8 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lemon_geckoWoman, proud slut, blue 6 points7 points8 points 8 months ago (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]Past-Shoulder-631No Pill man -4 points-3 points-2 points 8 months ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lemon_geckoWoman, proud slut, blue 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]Past-Shoulder-631No Pill man -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]Reasonable_Mouse789No Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]Past-Shoulder-631No Pill man -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Reasonable_Mouse789No Pill Man 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Motor-Buy-6991Man 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago (39 children) | Copy Link

[–]Fancy-Scallion-6682Purple Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]KapoueBlue Pill Man[🍰] 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]tritter211Pragmatic (iama man btw) 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]KapoueBlue Pill Man[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Motor-Buy-6991Man -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago (33 children) | Copy Link

[–]Reasonable_Mouse789No Pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago* (12 children) | Copy Link

[–]kalashhhhhhhhChad's WOMAN 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]autistic_cool_kidChad 38yo (Man) | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]small-pp-small-smvDih Pilled Man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]autistic_cool_kidChad 38yo (Man) | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Reasonable_Mouse789No Pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (6 children) | Copy Link

It’s the average. I’m sure there are religious areas where it’s zero -1 and party campuses where it’s higher

But let’s do some “back of the envelope” math.

Average man gets married at about 28. Average start of sexual activity is now at about 17.5. So let’s say that gives a guy around 10.5 years of time to “get numbers” before that n count (hopefully stops)

Now despite what PPD says, most people usually have sex in LTRs as monogamous couples.

So if we take 10.5 and divide it by the median of 4-7 (which would be 5.5) you get 1.9. So let’s round that up.

That comes out to about 2 relationships a year that develop into a sexual relationship for the average guy before he gets married.

Some more, some less depending (some guys are in relationships longer or meet the right one, some might get a coupe ONS or casual “got lucky” moments).

But in average at least 2 new sexual partners a year on average till dudes settle down.

It’s not actually that unrealistic for “they average” when you think about it. Of course the above and below are going to have very different experiences

[–]Reasonable_Mouse789No Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]Reasonable_Mouse789No Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]Reasonable_Mouse789No Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Motor-Buy-6991Man -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago (19 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago (18 children) | Copy Link

[–]salphonPurple Pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago (7 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]salphonPurple Pill Man -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]salphonPurple Pill Man -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]Motor-Buy-6991Man -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago (9 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago (8 children) | Copy Link

[–]Motor-Buy-6991Man -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago (7 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 5 points6 points7 points 8 months ago (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]Motor-Buy-6991Man -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (20 children) | Copy Link

[–]Fancy-Scallion-6682Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]Fancy-Scallion-6682Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]Fancy-Scallion-6682Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]KapoueBlue Pill Man[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]ThatBitchARetired Promiscuous Woman 6 points7 points8 points 8 months ago (9 children) | Copy Link

[–]Reasonable_Mouse789No Pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]ThatBitchARetired Promiscuous Woman 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Reasonable_Mouse789No Pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Corbast7Blue woman / Feminist + Leftist / no war but class war 6 points7 points8 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]operation-spotPurple Pill Woman 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]ThatBitchARetired Promiscuous Woman 6 points7 points8 points 8 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]small-pp-small-smvDih Pilled Man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]KapoueBlue Pill Man[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 6 points7 points8 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Fancy-Scallion-6682Purple Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Desperate-Exit7423Black Pilled Man 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (19 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Past-Shoulder-631No Pill man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]grillopieThats like, your opinion Man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago (9 children) | Copy Link

[–]Old_cress3828No pill FEMALE 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (8 children) | Copy Link

[–]Past-Shoulder-631No Pill man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]Old_cress3828No pill FEMALE 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]Old_cress3828No pill FEMALE 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]Old_cress3828No pill FEMALE 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]Desperate-Exit7423Black Pilled Man 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lemon_geckoWoman, proud slut, blue 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]Desperate-Exit7423Black Pilled Man 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Lemon_geckoWoman, proud slut, blue 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Past-Shoulder-631No Pill man -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago (21 children) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago (7 children) | Copy Link

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[–]stockingsinrainbootspills are brainrot - woman 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (16 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (12 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (10 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (8 children) | Copy Link

[–]stockingsinrainbootspills are brainrot - woman 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]small-pp-small-smvDih Pilled Man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Lemon_geckoWoman, proud slut, blue 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]small-pp-small-smvDih Pilled Man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (22 children) | Copy Link

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[–]small-pp-small-smvDih Pilled Man -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]fiftypoundpuppyCertified Good Boy | Certified Puppyphile ♀ 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (13 children) | Copy Link

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[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]stockingsinrainbootspills are brainrot - woman 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]kalashhhhhhhhChad's WOMAN 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]fiftypoundpuppyCertified Good Boy | Certified Puppyphile ♀ 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago (8 children) | Copy Link

[–]small-pp-small-smvDih Pilled Man -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago (7 children) | Copy Link

[–]fiftypoundpuppyCertified Good Boy | Certified Puppyphile ♀ 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]small-pp-small-smvDih Pilled Man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]fiftypoundpuppyCertified Good Boy | Certified Puppyphile ♀ 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]small-pp-small-smvDih Pilled Man 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]fiftypoundpuppyCertified Good Boy | Certified Puppyphile ♀ 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]grillopieThats like, your opinion Man 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]small-pp-small-smvDih Pilled Man -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]grillopieThats like, your opinion Man 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Old_cress3828No pill FEMALE 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Fancy-Scallion-6682Purple Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago (7 children) | Copy Link

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I sense some skepticism. I should note that my experience does not necessarily represent the experience of others. While there are some general trends, people are different and there are a million and one possible scenarios for how things might turn out. This is the greatest flaw in any kind of -pill ideology imo, trying to fit everything into neat little boxes, when the real world is far more messy than that. This realization was key for me and I think it's what allowed me to stop self sabotaging and finally lose my virginity. When I was in my early 20s, I was stuck in rigid red/blackpill thinking along the lines of "I haven't lost my virginity yet, that must mean I'm a pathetic undesirable loser and I should stop trying completely". And there is a subset of women who probably believed this about me. But there's another subset who doesn't care or even finds it an advantage, so I don't have to concern myself with the opinions of the former group.

[–]Fancy-Scallion-6682Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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After being in this space for more than a decade (before the word incel was even commonly used), I'd reckon that the cause of 95% of incels' dating problems is their worldview, which causes them to not socialize at all, or to come across very stifled and awkward on the odd occasion they might try. It's hard to overstate just how fundamentally harmful the things they believe are to their mental health (it should be noted it's not their fault and they can't "just" stop thinking that way, but it's not impossible to change either), unless you have experience of having a healthier outlook on life. For example, the constant negative comparisons to "Chad". Chad the way they imagine him doesn't really exist. But to the mind that doesn't really matter, and the part of their brain that makes these comparisons is always there to beat them down as soon as they try to for example strike up a conversation with a girl. It'll go into overdrive, saying things like "You pathetic ugly loser, why do you think you even have a chance with her? Just don't even try and spare yourself the embarrassment.", keeping the guy stuck.

Honestly I could probably write a whole book on this. I'd recommend watching HealthyGamerGG's videos if you haven't already, he explains these topics in more detail really well.

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[–]PopeoathRed Pill Man [score hidden] 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 8 points9 points10 points 8 months ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Reasonable_Mouse789No Pill Man 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]ThatBitchARetired Promiscuous Woman 7 points8 points9 points 9 months ago (48 children) | Copy Link

[–]Fancy-Scallion-6682Purple Pill Man 8 points9 points10 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Downtown_Werewolf_44Disenchanted chad (man) 7 points8 points9 points 9 months ago (34 children) | Copy Link

[–]ThatBitchARetired Promiscuous Woman 5 points6 points7 points 9 months ago (33 children) | Copy Link

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[–]ThatBitchARetired Promiscuous Woman 5 points6 points7 points 8 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Downtown_Werewolf_44Disenchanted chad (man) 4 points5 points6 points 9 months ago (30 children) | Copy Link

[–]ThatBitchARetired Promiscuous Woman 4 points5 points6 points 9 months ago (29 children) | Copy Link

[–]Downtown_Werewolf_44Disenchanted chad (man) 4 points5 points6 points 9 months ago (28 children) | Copy Link

[–]ThatBitchARetired Promiscuous Woman 2 points3 points4 points 9 months ago (27 children) | Copy Link

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Right, I agree not all women are hypocrites, it's why I try to emphasize portions like "a lot" or "some" but we can all fall victim to using "men" or "women" as an easy placeholder for "a lot."

But I will also argue that hypocrisy is not a bad thing, so long as you're just limiting it to your dating preferences. If a woman wants to only date a man who makes 100k while she's unemployed, and won't even offer to do housework. Is it hypocritical? Sure, but it's still a valid preference. Same thing with a high n-count man wanting a low n-count woman. Hypocritical? Of course, but still valid.

You can call it ridiculous, you can argue it will affect their dating prospects, you can even advocate for people to see it differently, but you can't argue they shouldn't have them or that they are a bad person for having them by shaming them just because it's hypocritical.

My problem with **some** women isn't that they may or may not have hypocritical dating preferences. That's fine. My problem is that they have a hypocritical view on what dating preferences are okay and what aren't for men and women, which is treating people differently outside of your personal dating context.

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I find it interesting how one of the main insult men use for women is "being used for sex" like means she isn't worth anything, i don't know. Then if to discuss how men lie and use women for sex and how wrong it is there is instantly same men come and be offended and say arguments like "women like sex too", "we can just have sex", "it's the only way we can get it" and "we're both consenting adults".....So 1) they definitely understand what they are doing and more importantly they view women they are doing it to as someone trashy. 2) they want sex but despise women they have sex with, kind of uncomfortable position to have really 3) it's not women who lack something, it's them because it's them who can't get sex any other way, there was no intention of staying, she couldn't do anything to change his mind, he already came with intention of deceit, not ambivalent

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I find it interesting how one of the main insult men use for women is "being used for sex" like means she isn't worth anything, i don't know

Gender roles are a factor. Once dominance became vanilla even to Redditors, I think the “guy who uses people as a top” and “woman who is helpless as a bottom” leaked into other areas of culture, including as blind insults. Similar to how some would use “virgin” as an insult even though that realistically means nothing in daily discourse

Then if to discuss how men lie and use women for sex and how wrong it is there is instantly same men come and be offended and say arguments like “women like sex too", "we can just have sex", "it's the only way we can get it" and "we're both consenting adults"

This is mostly an observation from when I was in college at 18 and less up front with people/reckless as Hell, but women are really, really fucking hard to read, okay? And they don’t want me to be explicit. I 100% cannot walk up to a woman and say “Hey let’s fuck”. However, the frequent pattern you’d see in a bar with alcohol of “chat - compliment - invite back to my place - ask afterwards if she’d like to continue sleeping together” works in a LOT of contexts, and a lot of women would be okay with it if I did that. Or if I ignored them for months after I did that and asked to sleep with them again. Or broke up with them and then continued having sex with them. I just can’t say “100% of people are like this” because not everyone is, and reading the intentions of someone who wants me to be tactful is difficult if I want to influence them in a direction of what I want, as long as they’re neutral towards it (assuming they’re not the ones who initiate). If I ask a random woman what they’re looking for, then the most likely answer they’ll probably tell me is “I don’t know”.

they definitely understand what they are doing and more importantly they view women they are doing it to as someone trashy

Everyone is trashy if I remove their halo effects and call them ugly. The woman who flirts with me after getting to know me as a friend for a long time is trashy (some women hate it when unattractive guy friends do this). The woman who cold approaches me at Starbucks is trashy (some women hate it when unattractive guys interrupt them). The woman who dumped me after sex because she found out I was bisexual was trashy. The woman who took my phone into a cookie shop’s bathroom and snapped a picture of her bra was trashy. The woman who groped my ass was trashy. The woman cheating on her husband was trashy. The woman who was okay with me cheating was trashy. The women who complimented me in bed compared to their friends that I knew are trashy.

Everyone is trashy. People are whores. Just because I’m too much of a whore to ever say “no” also makes me pretty trashy, but of course I’m never going to be penalized in any way for that.

they want sex but despise women they have sex with, kind of uncomfortable position to have really

It’s easy to hate people if you get to know them

it's not women who lack something, it's them because it's them who can't get sex any other way, there was no intention of staying, she couldn't do anything to change his mind, he already came with intention of deceit, not ambivalent

Women do the same thing, but pretend they’re different. Sleeping with a guy and then dumping him because they don’t like him is common for women to do. If you want to see sex as “commitment”, then get to know the people you’re sleeping with first, and be okay with dating low libido men, and be okay with dating men you don’t like in bed. If a woman sleeps with me to “test chemistry”, then even though I’m 100% capable of screwing random people, I’m also not going to act like what she’s doing is a moral high ground of “commitment”. It’s still just fucking. She can be as shallow as she wants to be, but I’m allowed to do what I want too if I don’t like her for some other reason

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But what do you define as casual? Is it any sex without commitment?

I've had LTRs that started with sex on the first date. Was that casual sex or was the casualness negated by the fact that we later ended up in a relationship? What about sex on the third date? It's rare to be exclusive when that happens, so again there's no commitment. I don't think that's casual sex, but some may. What about a long-term fwb? That's a form of casual sex to some as well.

Asking number of exes won't always produce an accurate answer either. If a woman asked me point blank for a number, I would have trouble answering, because which were relationships and which weren't is a little ambiguous. Like if I went on a few dates with a girl over the course of a couple months, had sex multiple times, but we never actually got to the point of agreeing to be exclusive, is she an ex? I don't think so, but others may disagree.

When women have asked me about past relationships, I don't provide some specific count or rattle off a list of exes. It's more like "well my longest relationship was X, and I also dated Y and Z for a while". The actual number is downplayed because I can't give a precise number and I don't feel like discussing every past relationship.

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They can have sex like this and claim it wasn't casual because they were trying for a relationship; they just so happened to not call the guy back or got ghosted by the guy or whatever. So now in their head, this one night stand doesn't qualify as casual sex.

I mean, I sort of look at it the same way, but it's not black and white. Even if I'm dating with the intent of a relationship, I consider a ONS casual sex. Like if we go on one date, sleep together that night, and never speak again, that's casual sex to me. But if we sleep together on the first date and continue dating afterwards, that's just normal dating to me and not casual sex.

Or if we go one a handful of dates, sleep together a few times, then decide that there's no long term potential, I just see that as normal dating.

I have no issue with casual sex, so I'm not trying to downplay what's casual. I just think there's a fine line between casual and regular dating.

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man -2 points-1 points0 points 9 months ago (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]ta06012022Man 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If you fuck a guy any number of times and it doesn't result in a relationship, it's casual imo.

By that definition, most of the sex I've had while dating seriously is casual sex. Most people you start dating won't turn out to be the one, no matter how good your intentions.

When I think of casual sex, I think of my ONSs and similar, most of which involved alcohol, a girl I had just met, and no expectation for future interaction from anyone. I would also include fwbs, since there's an explicit agreement of no commitment. But if I'm dating with the intent of finding a LTR, I don't consider that casual sex, even if it eventually doesn't work out.

You seem to be arguing that the outcome dictates whether sex is casual, rather than a person's intent. If I sleep with a woman after a date or two and end up marrying her, that wasn't casual because it resulted in a relationship. If we go our separate ways after a few more dates, it was casual because it didn't work out.

The "imo"part is important. As demonstrated by our differing definitions, opinions on what's casual vary. So when this guy asks a woman if she's had casual sex, her response will be based on her definition, not his, which makes the question sort of pointless. That was my whole point.

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