TheRedArchive needs help
With 700,000+ posts and 16,000,000+ comments archived, and new Red Pill content being added every week, keeping TheRedArchive alive and discoverable to everyone is starting to become very costly. As a 20-year-old student who just moved out and is living independently for the first time, keeping TheRedArchive alive is beginning to cost me much more than I thought.

Therefore, if you appreciate the website, have gained a lot of knowledge and insight from it, and want to show your appreciation, you can do so by donating any amount that you want via the options below. The money will be used on the expensive monthly host bill and any future maintenance of the website.
Thank you, and I wish you all a successful 2021 and a good luck with achieving your goals and dreams!

Best, /u/dream-hunter

# Bouncer tales

Reddit View
August 9, 2018

I am a high school History teacher by trade, but this summer a guy who owns a large bar/pool hall/dance club asked me if I would be interested in bouncing. I am a pretty swole old guy who is good at diffusing conflict, so I said I would give it a try. I worked every Friday and Saturday night this summer and have seen some redpill truths confirmed. Examples include:

Chicks have different “rules” for guys based on their appearance. I have had females insist that I forcibly remove unattractive guys who barely touched them only to let “hawt” guys finger-fuck them on the dance floor two songs later.

Chicks use alcohol as an excuse to act slutty. Yes, drinking lessens inhibition, but I have seen girls start acting inebriated, and slutty, before they finish their first fireball.

Thirsty dudes are just sad. To watch the poor guys who are there every weekend buying drinks and going from rejection to rejection and even being laughed at, is depressing. Meanwhile, muscular well-dressed dudes often only have to nod to broker a deal that’s easily closed.

Girl’s night out is a myth. Last Saturday night a group of girl, most of them wearing rings, celebrating the forthcoming nuptials of a friend, showed up and soon began giving lap-dances to the regular Chads. As God is my witness, I saw the bride-to-be sneak out to the parking lot with a well-known MMA fighter only to return in about 30 minutes looking flushed. I’m not sure what they did, but wouldn’t be surprised if semen was involved.

Girls can get away with sexual assault. Even though I am half-a-century old and gruff, I get propositioned in the most vulgar ways every night, am constantly being “twerked” and have even have my penis grabbed a few times.

Drunk dudes think they are Mike Tyson but are more like Steve Urkle. Examples of this truism are too numerous to mention. Don’t fight, but if you do, it probably shouldn’t be after a bottle of Grey Goose.

Have fun guys.

Post Information
Title Bouncer tales alphasquatch50 1615 424 09 August 2018 03:46 PM UTC (2 years ago) TheRedPill https://theredarchive.com/post/51878 https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/95xku0/bouncer_tales/

Red Pill terms found in post:
thirstythe red pill

[–]695 points696 points  (86 children) | Copy

Barman/Bouncer here. Can confirm the above post.

I often work late nights until closing time and open up the next day. One particular weekend I saw a hen party in the pub. I remember faces pretty well, so I knew which ones were acting "loose". They sat in a particular corner on a Friday night.

Saturday morning rolls around and before I've opened two chicks are banging the door, I look at the cameras and lo and behold tis two from last night's hen party.

One of them, who was acting loose the night before, asks if I found a jacket during clean up. I say there were a few, and tell her to come in and take a look. She comes into the cloakroom and finds her jacket and goes straight for the pockets, then turns to her friend and says "they're not there". Then they both look at me and say something along the lines of "what the fuck did you do with my stuff". I told them I had no interest in their belongings and asked what was missing. She tells me her wedding ring and engagement ring, she had taken them off and left them in her pocket and that I must have stolen them.

At first I got defensive, but I realized what was happening. So I asked "if you started the night with your wedding rings on, why would you take them off?"

Just like that, she back pedals and says someone else must have taken them. They left shortly after.

Moral is, she was looking for someone to blame, so she could tell hubby that someone stole her rings, and technically she wouldn't be lying.

I have many more tales like this. Many, many more. And even more aphorisms and nuggets of advice from bachelors, older men and married men. I should write a book sometime.

Edit: perhaps not a book. Maybe a reddit or blog post in future?

[–]1105 points106 points  (2 children) | Copy

Can we just get a bouncer story post going on TRP? This shit is amazing

[–]222 points223 points  (38 children) | Copy

TIL bouncer jobs let you see how insanely slutty women act latently. Sad.

[–] 246 points247 points  (35 children) | Copy

Bouncer here.

That job is how I ended up here.

It's sickening...

You literally wouldn't even believe it

[–]137 points138 points  (25 children) | Copy

Nah i would. Its why im reading these lol

[–] 126 points127 points  (24 children) | Copy

Lmao fair.

I'm gonna have to do a write up...

If anybody has heard of Scottsdale... That's where I bounce.

I get STDs just looking at that fucking city on a map

[–]50 points51 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yikes. I liked somebodies idea of making TRP: Bouncer Tales as sort of a collection of these stories by different bouncers. They dont really phase me anymore because I have seen and or experienced what most of the guys have been posting, but damn are some of these funny.

[–]8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

haha I second that ... it would be cool to have a nice post where the OP compiles the best stories or even a little PDF

[–]12 points13 points  (6 children) | Copy

I have only been to Scottsdale once (missed a flight in Phoenix) and it seemed pretty cool. Don't think I have seen so many banging chicks in one cluster of strip mall bars. Weather was nice; pretty clean city (although a little white bread).

What sort of guy does well here? I imagine flat billed hat dudes who are chill and have drugs? Or straight up gym rat yoked dudes?

I am from NY, and while in good shape, I know that it is not the city for my game haha.

[–] 19 points20 points  (4 children) | Copy

People always overdress for Scottsdale, the people who do best are those who show up in tees and hats.

I've never, ever seen a guy in a suit even get a phone number. Usually the nicer the person is dressed, the less ass they will pull.

Tattoos go a long way. Gym types do well.

And honestly, you can be a 3 but if you're over 6', in Scottsdale, you'll get laid.

Height is number 1. Money is number 2. Confidence/demeanor is number 3. Muscle is number 4.

[–]6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

Why is being 6' so important there? What's wrong with 5'10? Most women are poor judges of height anyway.

[–]16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy

Because only something like 12% of the population is 6' or over. And women are biologically designed to select only alpha mates aka the 80 20 rule and hypergamy. Height is just an easy way for women to select into the top 20% of men before they even talk to you.

Remember 100% of women think they deserve a 1 in 100 guy.

[–] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

<<< 6'8 brb moving to Scottsdale

[–] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Have a look at ASU girls...hnnnng

[–]8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

I’m in Tempe and with school about to start up it’s going to get fucking nuts. On a side note bouncing is 1000% the best way to pick up girls at the club. Working as a bouncer and making money while chicks try to pick you up, it’s a fun job for sure.

[–]2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I keep seeing this, but how does that work? arent you supposed to be working? not picking up chicks? _How do you get ladies like this ...without getting fired lol

[–]6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s really easy actually. It’s sort of a job perk like a pension or dental insurance. When they hire you they understand this. You work for sure but there is down time, your job is to watch costumers. You stand around a lot and people will come up to you and ask you questions about the place. You can’t be rude so you talk to them. As a bouncer you are still in costumer service. When a girl walks up to you and acts all flirty you simply ask her if she wants your number. When she says yes you give it to her. You never hold a phone it looks bad, you maintain the perception of working. She then calls your phone and you have her number. You tell her you’ll call her after you get off. Sometimes you score that night sometimes you score a few days later. Most of the time though these things don’t pan out, at least in my case. However, no matter what, you know she thinks your hot so it helps build your confidence.

[–]6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Which club there, I've seen some shit go down at Maya

[–] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Maya.

Specifically the Maya pool parties during the day. Fucking ratchet.

[–]3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

I also party in Scottsdale on the weekends. Women are fucking disgusting

[–] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Work in Old Town, live in Tempe, but I literally only fuck with girls from Peoria

Everything else is trash

[–]3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Isn't Peoria trash? Westgate?

[–] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's certainly less affluent. Lol

Bingo, Westgate area.

[–]0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Lol...how do you just go to Scottsdale on the weekends? You from there? Are you pretty well off...financially

[–]2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I live in Mesa, a town that is half ghetto, half snowbird suburbs. It’s 15 mins away from Scottsdale. When you live here, you either party in Tempe with the ASU kids or Scottsdale with the rich people. I’m middle class myself

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I live 15min away (lived here a year). I bet you got some good stories.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The rich suburb in the desert. Not shocking.

[–]10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

Same. Go corporate security. Way less of that shit.

[–] 38 points39 points  (3 children) | Copy

Haha idk if I love it or hate it.

It's revolting, but I can't look away.

I may never quit.

[–]54 points55 points  (2 children) | Copy

Local college bar has dollar shots during happy hour and it's across the road from campus so it's obviously going to attract every single college student.

I've seen obese doing the hands on the floor twerk and her dress is up over her ass and everyone at my table is yelling at her to pull it down.

Saw a girl who was at her 21st birthday turn to the corner of her booth, throw up on it, and then everyone got up to walk out and just left it there. Didnt even warn people.

It's one of the most disgusting and degenerate dive bars you can imagine and the bathrooms are exactly how you think. I saw a girl SITTING on the floor in the women's room talking to her friend who's puking in a toilet.

Friends ask me why I still go there and I say because I enjoy not being able to stop watching.

[–]2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I do believe it brah. I was a bouncer in my BP days.

The ammount of times i rejected women just to go home, cuddle my doggo and then wake up six hours later and go frame houses..... Fuck.

And they all wanted to come over more and tried harder when i said i had a dog.

[–]0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The fuck? How good looking are you?

[–]2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Like James from twilight.

At the time i had a literal lions maine and could unleash it and get 2-5 girls playing with my hair at any given time. Long hair is great.

[–]139 points40 points  (0 children) | Copy

any job where you see a lot of women lets you see how insanely slutty women act latently.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributor30 points31 points  (3 children) | Copy

Maybe a reddit or blog post in future?

"Tales From The Bar"...with contributions from the OP, me and the other guys who have worked in the trade.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

yes! this would be awesome please do it!

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm in, 12 years has a lot of juice.

[–]57 points58 points  (1 child) | Copy

[–]24 points25 points  (7 children) | Copy

You guys are making me thinking about doing it as a none permanent job. I don't drink so no worries about me sneaking during work. Doing manual labor at a mjj grow right now and work out consistently. Not a giant but of decent stature at 6'1" 205. Never fought competitively but when push has come to shove that "auto pilot" has never failed. Id rather talk some one down than hit them anyways.

What are some of the pros and cons of bouncing? I'm making 16 an hour benefits deducted from check. This would be a job for a change of scenery and hours. At my current I'm not learning shit. Understandable too boss wants to protect his "intellectual property". What are some warnings/advice youd have for someone thinking about taking this up

[–]22 points23 points  (1 child) | Copy

I couldn't list too many pros and cons for bouncing. It can be a very serious job at times and each individual you encounter usually has to be handled differently. Mind You, 90% of guys causing trouble are waiting for someone to tell them to stop, I have found. It's 10% or less who are deliberately trying to make yours or someone else's night hell. The challenge presented by this is really for you to assimilate.

Bartending however, I have done for longer than bouncing and I know it inside and out. There are many benefits and a few cons, but only if you're good at the job or at least try to be. First things First, bartending school is rubbish and just a quick cash grab. Get a job as a bar back and get to know different drinks and mixes and their names, it should almost enter your mind by osmosis if you are awake during your job. Think of it as an apprenticeship.

Second, you need to be able to track many things at once in a busy bar (I'm talking places where people are ALWAYS 2-3 deep at the bar). Who's drinking what to help speed up the second round order, who's getting too drunk, who's coming in the door etc.

Third, you need to have PERSONALITY. To me this means a lot of things, but can be summed up in one word we all know: frame. For example, while most bars have rules, every bartender has his own rules of how and who to serve. So once someone has crossed the line, said too much or insulted you or a patron, that's it. You tell them to finish their drinj and leave. But it also means your ability to hold a conversation, or how to use eye contact in a situation (from deescalating a frustrated drunkard to chatting up women).

These are just some things that, while I have learned them, I haven't ever written them down.

[–]8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oddly enough conversation wise I get along better with chicks. Simpler to talk to and few save for the ones trying to prove something, ever try having some pissing contest with me. Actual decent convo so chatting up drunk chicks wouldn't be too bad.

Use to barista at one of the most hectic Starbucks locations in the state so speed/production work and orders im good with. Weeds just always been my thing and not alcohol so never really thought bartender until it briefly flashed through my mind after getting cat fished and just hanging out at the bar drinking a beer and watching the bartender work. Looked like the night goes by fast he made a decent amount in tips/cash and got a number or too while he was at it. The whole time the bouncers looked on edge. I'll look into it thanks for the advice.

[–]2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not for everyone. You'll have to deal with idiotic drunk people all night. Some nights are filled with fights and some aren't. You could be bussing tables, cleaning vomit, or breaking up fights. Pay depends on the place. I wouldn't call it a full time job. I do it part time to offset the child support I pay. Some pay cash only or it could be minimum wage. All places are different. The turnover is high because of dealing with the idiots.

It's usually a job people do till they make bar back and eventually bartender.

[–]2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Watch roadhouse amd autistically pretend to be dalton. I did it for six months and had guys bigger than me just walk away because i didnt ahow any sort of fear or facial reaction.

Of course, i got bitched at by the bossman for never smiling (and chicks notice this and use it as an opener on me)

[–]3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Im not listening to hollywood. My ear is still ringing yesterday from shooting my 5.56 with no ear plugs. And all these actions stars are shooting ridiculous shit with zero tinnitus... Pfft.

Idk man its just an easy temporary out during a transitional period. Im at that point where i know my boss is a barely functional junky and want to work for myself. Everyone i have worked for I have micromanaged in my head thinking "dude wtf why did you do that" within perfect reason too.

[–]2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

It’s a fun job in the right environment. Everyone knows at least one guy that bounces. Ask him about where he works and what other clubs he’d recommend work at some are really authoritarian others, like the one I’m at are not that crazy and you can have some fun while working. You don’t really make good money it’s a side job for sure. You can make decent money on a Friday or Saturday if the club is busy and you work the door taking tips to let people skip line. I don’t really work there for the money. I’m in college and just got out of the military so it was a job up my alley. It’s mostly a fun job where you get to kick idiots asses and pick up hot chicks.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

May be what I do once I have enough money saved. It would be a "keep me afloat" while i build the vision i have in my head.

[–]10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

make a series kind sir! share the wealth of knowledge.

[–] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I guess I'm still in the rage phase and I'm just disgusted

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

same lol, i fear the fact that i am a weak man and wouldn't have the power over such situations.

[–] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

what race are most of these cheating girls?

[–]1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Caucasian but only because they're the majority in my country

[–]1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

As a occasionally bouncer and former full working bouncer , used to work at one of the most popular one in my country,, seeing women come with wedding rings on then ,,pofff” it’s gone,

Working as bouncer can really open guys eyes. I’ve seen and witnessed fucked up things.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Do tell. Every once in a while a shade of blue resurfaces when I talk to a beautiful girl. I need my daily dose of red pills to remind me of AWALT.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Do you take an intern or shadows under your wings to let them know who are loose and can be scored.

I think I need a bouncer friend in my life.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

We would need a post on that soon partner

[–]0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

So does pussy come pretty easy as a bouncer or is that just a myth

[–]4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Easier as a bartender I find. Depends on your character as a bouncer. I'd be more no nonsense and stoic when I'm bouncing, though I had colleagues who would charm everyone that entered the pub just to have a rapport with most people so if shit kicked off it would be easier to talk to people.

As a bartender though you have to talk to almost everyone that comes in because they all want a drink (usually). If you're a bouncer anywhere except a door that's unlikely. So just by sheer weight of numbers, you're bound to encounter a chick or two that finds you attractive, making it much easier to score. Especially as a barman, you're not one of the copy and paste guys that are also in the pub. You're THE barman.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hmm ok. Yeah, I have heard bartending is a good job to be in a position where chicks come to you, so you do less chasing. Interesting. Bouncing seems interesting too, though also sort of dangerous depending on the situation.

[–] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nice socratic method there. Works with idiots every time.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Please for the love of God do one of them, would be the Internet's biggest dose of red pills ever.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Are there any books already out there that talk about stuff like this?

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Edit: perhaps not a book.

False. A book would be perfect.

[–] 159 points160 points  (12 children) | Copy

Bouncer here. One night a group of young people were leaving and this girl started dancing and grinding on me with her boyfriend right in front of me. I looked at him like, is this for real bro, but he decided to keep looking the other way. Another time I was working the door and a girl and her boyfriend came to the entrance and she spotted a waiter who is tall and muscular and on the football team of the college she attends and she was flirting and chatting with him for almost 5 MINUTES while I looked at her boyfriend like is this serious, and he looked back at me in dismay and defeat. This job gives you a very up close view of hypergamy in real-time.

Update: Working tonight, two couples came in and one guy's girlfriend chatted and flirted with me for a few minutes and then took my hand and kissed it like I was royalty with boyfriend standing a few feet away just watching. I cannot make this shit up.

[–]57 points58 points  (2 children) | Copy

she was flirting and chatting with him for almost 5 MINUTES while I looked at her boyfriend like is this serious, and he looked back at me in dismay and defeat.

Jesus Christ, I don't understand how so many men can be this spineless. Even when I was bluepill I had enough self-respect to ditch house if I was blatantly disrespected like that. Your turn is over at that point, get out with your dignity asap.

[–]3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

The problem this happens where your spine goes away is because the market is heavily saturated. It's very easily said here 'Next' but the way hypergamy is in full effect and genes are the shit this whole 'next' thing is not so simple.

To that guy it's like I'll take the humiliation as long as I get to fuck her. Hopefully he has enuf brains to keep using her for sex only and not provide resources .

Like I get it keeping our dignity and self respect is bigger, the power to walk away is the biggest card we have but at some point after watching some 6ft hot dude just wink at ur girl and have her on his dick while u had to do some significant game on her can be depressing. Yea sure we can go and get another one.....who will just be like the previous one!

And yea u might find a chick who has gotten emotionally super attached to u that she won't leave but there was a time when she did and it was called her 'slut phase'.

I don't like it but I get it. It's a question as to why trp hasn't considered this. Yes it's weak but that's th whole point of awalt

[–] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The problem this happens where your spine goes away is because the market is heavily saturated. It's very easily said here 'Next' but the way hypergamy is in full effect and genes are the shit this whole 'next' thing is not so simple.

Exactly. Abundance mentality cannot be faked, no matter how hard you try. It has to be credible, meaning she has to know that you actually do have other options. Women are evolved to very quickly size a guy up and assess his status, just as we are evolved to look a woman up and down for two seconds and have a pretty good idea of her fertility.

[–] 56 points57 points  (2 children) | Copy

It does. A 23 year old HB8 begged me to let her give me a lap-dance with her boyfriend holding her hand ... I refused because I was working ... and I'm not particularly attractive.

[–] 34 points35 points  (1 child) | Copy

That's really cucked up. Even worse, if he consented to it.

[–]11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yes, but you're not suggesting he mate guard, right? He should just walk out of said club.

[–]26 points27 points  (0 children) | Copy

Better yet, walk to the bar and find a different girl to take home. The one he came to the club with just disqualified herself from being his problem any longer.

[–]9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly he would have left 5 months before it got to this point. Something like this doesn't just jump into her head. It is a long road of ever increasing cuckolding acts that eventually leads to her knowing she can get away with that.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Bottom of barrel these girls.

[–] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus even if I was a weak frail faggot who could only pull fat 2’s I’d ghost a hoe for that. I have too much pride.

[–]422 points423 points  (29 children) | Copy

I'll never forget the time I was at a nightclub, minding my own business when a bouncer came up to me and accused me of pulling my pants down. It was so bizarre I just said, "Huh? What?". He then told me that some woman had said she saw me do it. Of course I told him I hadn't and he probably knew it was bullshit but when he suggested I go hang out in a different part of the club I gladly complied.

Never underestimate the willingness of a drunk girl to stir up trouble.

edit: vocabulary

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributor101 points102 points  (1 child) | Copy

he probably knew it was bullshit but when he suggested I go hang out in a different part of the club I gladly complied.

I used to bounce in my younger years: He did know, but what happens depends on what type of club/bar that it is. If it's male space, she likely gets blown off by the bouncer, maybe a token "knock it off, pal" to get her to shut up, but no real penalty, i.e. what happened to you. He just wanted that particular problem to go away.

I bounced at a place like that, guys went to drink and guys pay the bills, so the rule of thumb was, if I didn't see it, it didn't happen. I mean, if you investigate, and the dude is acting shady, then maybe, but otherwise it was going to be some broad whining for attention. People are shitty liars when they're drinking and you can usually get a good read on what happened, at least in the immediate aftermath.

If, OTOH, you're at a club where having hot chicks is a necessity, then nobody is going to care if you throw some faggot out the door. He complains? So what. The manager and owner are probably bluepills. It's worse when you are working a shift with a bluepill bouncer. The.Worst. That's a White Knight With a Badge, at least in that space.

[–]41 points42 points  (0 children) | Copy

A white night bouncer sounds terrible!

[–] 74 points75 points  (0 children) | Copy

At a nightclub: My best friend was standing line for the bathroom when a girl accused him of groping her. Straight up just picked on him for god knows why. She screamed and got the bouncer involved. My friend was fortunately not that drunk and calmly explained that he was a screaming faggot who had never looked at a woman with desire in his whole life (true). Fortunately the bouncer saw sense and just let it go. The girl's face when my friend revealed he is gay was priceless.

[–]222 points223 points  (23 children) | Copy

If girls don't get any attention they will create DRAMA

[–]1239 points240 points  (15 children) | Copy

Ever watch a drunk chick get rejected? I distinctly remember when an alpha friend of mine not-so-subtly reject the advances of a bar hoe. At one point he got so fed up that he actually sat her on a stool and explained:

"I-AM-TOO-GOOD FOR-YOU".

To this day, the public freakout that ensued from that girl is the best spectacle I've ever seen.

[–]64 points65 points  (9 children) | Copy

Care to tell us more? Sounds interesting

[–]1184 points185 points  (8 children) | Copy

Drunk white chick pretty much went through the 7 stages of grief.

Over the course of two minutes; she cried, tried to kiss him again, got rejected, accused my buddy of being gay and having a small dick, made fun of his ethnicity, knocked a stool down, then stormed off. It was hilarious.

[–]83 points84 points  (3 children) | Copy

It's the female equivalent of a "nice guy" ha. Funny when they insult the person they were just trying to hook up with. Somehow they don't realize its an insult to themselves.

[–]36 points37 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's as if their rational thinking never reached past the Id level

[–]7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you for making me laugh during my nightly shit 😂

[–]6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lmao

I could actually imagine some alpha chad saying that shit like it was in a movie.

[–]32 points33 points  (2 children) | Copy

Or start kissing other chicks for attention.

[–]12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can confirm.

Man’s capacity is top off and spot on the attention or intentional to stir up trouble.

Use public power to shame her, and never get your hand dirty, because public shame/hanging is always most effective.

Just snipe it, said something that make them looks bad is enough to get it going.

[–]4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Even sadder when a male does it

[–] 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Once I rejected a drunk girl, went to my boys, 5 minutes later I have a group of whiteknights behind me saying that I hit the girl lol. Ofc I didn't, I've never even hit a man in my life, but well. First time I had an interaction with a crazy chick.

[–]2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Drunk girls are like unstable dynamite, they have no idea how to respond to a rejection. Creating "Drama" is their natural instinct. Even girls bitch about other girls creating drama.

[–] 66 points67 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wow ... I have seen them ask for help for the most incidental contact.

[–]248 points249 points  (63 children) | Copy

Great post. It's been a while since I've been to the club, but I thought Id share something that always reminds me with bouncers. About 7 years ago I was at a friends birthday party. Some drunk asshole shoves me out of the blue with my back turned. Im tipsy and Im about 150 and not the tallest guy (about 5,7). I turn around ready to defend my honor and raise my fists. This guy im about to fight is easily 200+ and 6 feet muscular. I know im about to get my ass kicked. The second before we are about to lunge at each other, I feel arms wrap around me and just squeeze the air out of my chest. I see another bouncer about the same size as the other dude pick him up and starts carrying the other dude out. I hear a whisper "Are you done? Are you done?" I just said "Yup". I turned around it was this fat dude with beard and tattoos. The bouncer let me go back to my group and kicked the other dude out. I was surprised by 3 things. 1, the ability to recognize the entire situation in the dark nightclub. 2, the speed they were able to diffuse the situation. 3, never underestimate the strength of a dude that looks obese.

[–] 122 points123 points  (11 children) | Copy

It is mostly about seeing situations begin to develop.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributor92 points93 points  (9 children) | Copy

^ This. You can see a "pre-fight" situation like a weatherman looking at radar for the 5-day forecast.

[–]22 points23 points  (5 children) | Copy

Them weathermen are always fuckin wrong, they can't even get the same day's weather right half the time, shit.

[–]-2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy

dont be a semantic faggot. thats for the rest of reddit. You KNOW what he meant, Jesus.

[–]6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

Found the guy illiterate to sarcasm

I've found this type of humor works well with women, when they make a statement about anything, and you completely ignore the underlying statement and make a joke hyperfocusing on some insignificant part of what they said, intentionally making it seem as if you've missed their point but they know you know what they meant. Allows me to divert the convo to sex in two or three lines to escalate all while causing them to bunch up their panties because I'm overtly ignoring them...

Don't get your panties in a bunch so easily my friend

[–]66 points67 points  (0 children) | Copy

All security does is watch. He most certainly saw the guy push you.

[–]44 points45 points  (0 children) | Copy

You'd be surprised how many bouncers are in some of the bars I go to. If you are not paying attention, unlike me, they'll just be standing in a corner or in the back watching, they have ear pieces and any staff can put an alert like," drunk white guy with blue polo t-shirt just asked me for another drink, I denied him, he's went to the second floor." And yes most of them are "obese" big and not ripped.

[–]19 points20 points  (47 children) | Copy

5'7 / 150lb gainst a 6' / 200+? Best course of action: surprise attack, nutshot, kick his knee in, etc. Don't let your height be what dictates a loss, nor his weight.

[–]81 points82 points  (2 children) | Copy

Best course of action might be just swallowing your pride, really. It was a shove, not a call to arms.

[–]0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What else does a shove mean to you, then?

[–]17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

In this situation, it means not getting your panties in a bunch over some drunk fuck who will be thrown out. If he engaged, then he would've also been thrown out, but he thought logically and it paid off.

[–]62 points63 points  (18 children) | Copy

Words from a person that doesn't fight. Let me tell you, as a long time fighter, fighting is NEVER the right choice outside of a ring. Death and life ruining injury for either party is as easy as slipping on a spill.

You could die, he could die, you could ruin your life and rot in a cell, and for what? Your pride? Not worth it. Keep your Rocky fantasies in your head.

[–] 1 points [recovered]  (12 children) | Copy

SIZE MATTERS

I am sorry for small guys but it really does in a fight. If you don’t believe me watch Bjornson vs McGregor

[–]15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

Most people don't want a fight. Big guys don't want to get injured, and little guys are terrified of losing the fight and looking a fool.

Give them an out that saves their ego, and they take it, every time.

except natives. Once their eyes glaze over, just stay away.

[–]5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Canadian here, can confirm, if you see an angry native approaching you, best course of action is always to run, de-escalation is impossible, better to swallow your pride and flea than the feel tip of a knife or the blade of the machete that's shoved down a pant-leg.

[–]Endorsed Contributor21 points22 points  (7 children) | Copy

Real life fights ain't Pokemon Go, little one.

[–]2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

Of course they're not, which is why you fight dirty, fight to win. Why the hell would you say some dumb presumptive shit like this?

[–]2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

There is no "win", there is you get out with the least possible broken bones or disfiguring wound. You are not a teenager girl, when two guys 80+ kg fight each other there's a real possibility of killing somewone with a fist. Hell you can die just by falling and hitting you head in a hard surface.

[–]2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

+1 ... Last fight I "won," I tore a tendon in the middle knuckle of my dominant hand. Had to have surgery, lost a bunch of income cause I couldn't work for 6 months, and my hand still feels off and I dont know if it will really ever recover.

Meanwhile the other guy probably was fine after a couple days and his face/pride recovered.

Not worth it.

[–]5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

the woman self-defense techniques will probably still get his ass kicked tbh

[–]4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

I guess combat troops are filled with women, then, since these are valid techniques used by the military.

[–]11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

c'mon dude, you get the point lmao, he admitted he was gonna get his ass kicked

[–]2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sweep the leg!

Or train grappling... lose your fears.

Shoot, scoop, dump, mount. Even big guys need to breathe.

Bind them with their clothes. People are covered in handles!

[–] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I got in a bar fight on my 30th birthday. Before I had a chance to return the haymaker he drunkenly missed me with I was off my feet and being carried out. Crazy. Bouncers probably felt the tension from across the room and moved fast.

[–]578 points579 points  (8 children) | Copy

I have had female friends my whole life. Some very close. And 3 separate friends from different eras, who did not even know one another, all confirmed it:

"Do you know what girls might out is?"

Nope.

"Its a bunch of drunk chicks, competing to see who gets the most Male attention from the hottest guys."

That's from the horses mouth, I swear.

[–]188 points89 points  (0 children) | Copy

I can confirm the fuck outta this. Both from the horses' mouths to me, and also from overhearing (a ton of women live in apartments where they have roommates and thin cheap walls, so I've can't help but have overheard dozens of juicy girltlk convos in other rooms).

"Girls' night out" virtually always involves going to a place that is known for having a high concentration of drunk men who are there just to hit on women and try to get laid. Now whatever might women be going to such a place? Obviously the gals must just really love that genre of music and not have a decent sound system at any of their places.

[–]129 points130 points  (3 children) | Copy

From the horses mouth = what they want you to know.

It's a half truth. Sheilas are better at this than you. They are naturals. Lying is an instinct, they don't have to practice it.

They're saying "attention" and meaning "an excuse to accidentally fuck someone with zero consequences because it's not my fault"

[–]49 points50 points  (2 children) | Copy

Been taking a single/money/me hiatus for a while now and plan on marking all these red flags down for future shit. And people call me an asshole for not trusting women right off the bat

[–]11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

When all they have to do is sniffle the phrase, "he raped me" and get all of the sorry for you attention they could ever want, and get you tossed into jail, and make you lose your job, all in one swipe? Fuck that shit.

[–]6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

man fuck, just when I thought I knew it and heard it all, this happens. And I'm not surprised it's a thing

[–]79 points80 points  (35 children) | Copy

Can OP elaborate on the physical appearance of the "Thirsty dudes" ? In your eyes what gives them away as such?

[–] 152 points153 points  (33 children) | Copy

Often short ... never muscular ... frumpy clothing ... often balding

[–]111 points112 points  (21 children) | Copy

the balding part right hit me right in the feels fuk

[–]85 points86 points  (11 children) | Copy

Work out, shave your head - not a 100% solution, but better than bald-ING

[–]71 points72 points  (2 children) | Copy

"bald is a choice , balding is not " - niell strauss

[–]23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bang on 👌 nothing sadder than trying to hang onto a fading semblance of hair

[–]11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

"the less hair you have, the more head you get"

-me

[–]13 points14 points  (5 children) | Copy

Some guys look even better shaved

[–]9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy

Dude, I'm 5',10" . 210 Lbs, 11% bodyfat. Good looking face, but bald. The last NINE hotties that hit on me, used a version of: "Did anyone ever tell you that you look like what Vin Diesel should look like?" Oh, yeah, I'm 47, and have no wrinkles. I HAD to reject them, because I was 1-3 years older than their father.

[–]5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Were those girls in their 20’s? I don’t mind big age differences, right now I’m plating a cougar that’s 19 years older than me and I plan to date younger chicks when I get to your age :-] stay swole bro

[–]3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

(18-22) Yeah, I can't spiritually justify that, even though physically & legally I can. I just use it to make myself happy, because I never got married. (I can't be an unlovable ogre if young hot vixens keep hitting on me even though I'm "old & decrepit." And when my true age is revealed about 2/3 "argued" with me.) But I can't do it, we're at different stages of life. (like the Aragorn scene in LOTR: Two Towers where the girl who has a crush on him finds out he's 89.) WORD OF ADVICE AS YOU GET OLDER: Increase your cardio & flexibility and stretching work. Take care of your skin, inside and outside. Learn to limit your food & calorie intake. Cut out bad quality food & heavy drugs- legal & illegal.

[–]2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Getting to your age is not as soon as ‘next week’. Assuming your age is 25 right now, your taste will change as you get older. Just like myself. Nothing serious here, just felt the need to say something my friend.

[–]7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Been lifting before TRP, gym for years and on steroids for a few years, now came off but I still look top tier regarding gym physique, doesn't compensate for balding.

[–]2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I did this. I ultimately like it better, but honestly my dating life is about the same. You do still have a noticible horseshoe shadow even when it’s shaved smooth. I’ve thought about getting laser hair removal, It would take care of the horseshoe, but really it would be for convenience. Honestly though, I don’t think my hair is the issue.

[–] 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

I'm bald, rarely work out, sometimes shave my head, sometimes look like a twat. Plenty of pussy to keep me busy.

Honestly, why does it matter? For attractiveness.. for women.. but who gives a shit what women want? Focus on building a great fucking life for yourself and pussy will surround you regardless of how many strands of hair you have on your head.

[–]1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'm bald, rarely work out, 5'8, sometimes shave my head, sometimes look like a twat.

I'm 5'10" and balding, other than my gym physque I have nothing else to compensate for balding.

I can't attract any women, and I can see the difference of how they treat me and even look at me when wearing a cap. I am talking from my experience which is making me bend to a more incel/black pill side, based on the my very personal experiences.

Plenty of pussy to keep me busy. How many plates do you need?

I never had plates, maximum amount of women I had sex simultaniously during an extended period of time is one. I'd just like to have access to sex with women I find attractive on a regular basis and feel abundance.

Honestly, why does it matter? For physical attractiveness.. for women.. but who gives a shit what women want? Focus on building a great fucking life for yourself and pussy will surround you regardless of how many strands of hair you have on your head.

This is one of the things I do not agree with TRP and I have seen various EC/Vanguards contradict it as well, compare intimacy to money/water... Have a constant flux and everything is OK, have none and you are fucked.

[–] 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

and I can see the difference of how they treat me and even look at me when wearing a cap

Wearing a cap? One of my bald friends does that, too. It's obvious he's insecure about it enough to cover it up. Don't wear a cap, especially if you're doing so to hide your baldness.

This is one of the things I do not agree with TRP and I have seen various EC/Vanguards contradict it as well, compare intimacy to money/water... Have a constant flux and everything is OK, have none and you are fucked.

I wouldn't be so sure about that last part. I moved to Thailand 8 months ago and have spent 90% of my time alone in my condo with zero intimacy. I became jaded with chicks early on and have been seeing one girl for a good 6 months. Even then, I see here maybe once a week.

I have purposely refrained myself from going out or chasing loads of women or socialising because I wanted to overcome this dire need for intimacy. What I realised is that once you're completely comfortable in yourself, and once you have a strong relationship with yourself and know who the fuck you are, and have compassion for yourself yada yada, that you don't seek as much intimacy from others.

I'm 10,000 miles away from friends and family that I've known for the last 30 years. Now I am sat here in my condo every night with not a person in sight. Why am I the happiest I've ever been?

I think many of us seek intimacy, not just because we can't relate to ourselves in a healthy way, but because it is a distraction against our unfulfilling lives. I genuinely enjoy my lifestyle (programming, building software, learning, reading, listening to music, only having to work 10/15 hours wk).

In that sense, I wouldn't be so quick to say the problem is intimacy. I know from first-hand experience that you don't need intimacy with others to be happy and content.

It's all in your head. You really need to figure that shit out, and sometimes you do need to spend a long long time alone to hammer it in.

[–]2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Wearing a cap? One of my bald friends does that, too. It's obvious he's insecure about it enough to cover it up. Women can smell it a mile away. Don't wear a cap if you're doing so to hide your baldness.

That's not the point I wanted to make, I just sometimes wear a cap because I feel like wearing them. The treatment and looks I get from females is completely different(much better).

I wouldn't be so sure about that last part. I moved to Thailand 8 months ago and have spent 90% of my time alone in my condo with zero intimacy. I became jaded with chicks early on and have been seeing one girl for a good 6 months. Even then, I see here maybe once a week.

I have purposely refrained myself from going out or chasing loads of women or socialising because I wanted to overcome this dire need for intimacy.

I suppose because you have experienced some kind of abundance any time. This is why I think the phrase "Just focus on yourself, women will come" apply to men who have had abundance.

With how many women have you been during your life? How many plates you have had? If you had had less than 5 as me maybe the perspective would be different based on the sentence you said you didn't agree.

I'm 10,000 miles away from friends and family that I've known for the last 30 years. Now I am sat here in my condo every night with not a person in sight. Why am I the happiest I've ever been?

Was in a similar situation, left to a new country where I didn't even speak the language and managed to do fine actually, but moved back to my country althought I plan on leaving in a year or so.

I think many of us seek intimacy, not just because we can't relate to ourselves in a healthy way, but because it is a distraction against our unfulfilling lives. I genuinely enjoy my lifestyle (programming, building software, learning, reading, listening to music, only having to work 10/15 hours wk). I've moved from a shitty climate to a sunny climate (which is too warm so I barely go out in the sun), and from 9-5 servitude to freelancing. I have cheap food and cheap rent.

Sweet, I'm also a programmer. Going to the point is that, assuming you have experienced abundance as I pointed before, you have had a mission to focus, a big important point on TRP.Glad is going well for you. Will read about Chris Knight.

I noticed the biggest changes started to happen when I stopped looking outside of myself for any of my emotional needs. Apart from sex (which gets old), women offer me absolutely zilch, therefore they have forever been removed from the pedestal.

Again looks you've experienced abundance mentioning that sex gets old. I believe it only gets old if you've had a lot/a constant amount of it.

[–]0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I'm a bouncer and I see plenty of guys who are completley shaved (not just NW1 with close buzz but NW5's completley shaved with the 5 o'clock shadow ring around their heads) with 8's and 9's. Granted they're all tall, muscular, and lowish body fat.

But I also see short, chubby/scrawny balding guys who yeah have zero chance at the club.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah it seems that to be bald you have to have another genetic trait not naturally attainable (such as gym for example) in order to be attractive such as tallness or eye color, otherwise it's over.

[–] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep. Shave it. But, you must get a body. You must work out and lose weight. You can't be bald and flabby. Just won't work.

[–]1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Such assessment... only confirms the bare, naked, savage truth in human/male hierarchies. You look at them, and you instinctively know who is boss and who's a tool, who fucks and who doesn't. Sometimes, it is a mere genetic lottery thing (it is certainly not "fair"... but it is what it is).

• You look at it through blue-pilled lens: instinctively, you know the truth. But then, you convince yourself that "surely, people would not be so shallow".
• You look at it through red-pilled lens: you know they are so shallow.
• You look at the losers as a woman: you laugh at them. You don't comprehend and/or don't care that this is one of the most cruel things to experiences as a man -- why would you? You live life on easy modeTM .

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

if I have a big genetic widows peek would I be considered balding?

[–]16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its not about the look , its the behavior , you can see the desperate types hesitating before approaching girls and trying to continue interactions with girls who are clearly not interested. also they come off as the weaker person in their interactions with women ( they follow the girls , let them take the frame, struggling to keep the girls attention, etc.)

i have seen plenty of good looking guys act this way as well

[–] 130 points131 points  (1 child) | Copy

Bachelorette parties with a stripper is one of the most degenerate things a woman can get involved in. Some guy will be marrying this woman, damn.

[–]28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy

The perfect cure for those that think they’ve found an unicorn lol

[–] 215 points216 points  (7 children) | Copy

I love this. Would love to see a Part II...

[–]79 points80 points  (3 children) | Copy

word up dude. Redpill: The bouncer stories

Reading stories like these keeps me going strong towards my own (unknown) path. Haha, girls have 100 excuses as to why they act slutty and shit, but yeah...anyways, i remember going out maybe like three times in this year like omg shit is crazy. 1st time, i did it to overcome my fears. 2nd time, i was like "oh i finally got somewhere". 3rd, i was like "okay, cut the shit. is this really it?" I never bought any girl a drink, but those hoes really do think that they can just get away with the most outlandish shit. Good thing I drink cola with ice xD I swear, if alcohol lowers inhibition to such an extreme degree, then fuck, these women are scary.

I heard one girl mention how much of a feminist she is, all the while dressed like she came from a whore-house and being proud of her muscle man. On the opposite end, a tall skinny bitch was making fun of her man. He was not as "Chad" but looked like a beta banker type. Both were couples on a night out, can you believe it? I thought this sort of thing ended in secondary, boy was I fucking wrong. At least, uni, maybe i can see where it continues but irl? damn. I rather not thanks. Hell, even this "female friend" of mine is a bit like the first girl, all about "rights" but when it comes down to it, she wants the 666 in a guy. Bouncer OP, please continue these stories if you could =)

[–] 64 points65 points  (2 children) | Copy

I will ... during my planning periods

[–] 22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

Awesome, the bouncer series will keep me honest when dealing with women. I am very much looking forward to reading more.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

yeah i'd love to hear more stories from people have worked in the club as someone who is a vet in the club game. i love hearing them

[–]58 points59 points  (0 children) | Copy

Reading this whole post and comment section is eye-opening.

[–]318 points319 points  (30 children) | Copy

I remember reading an article by a male stripper talking about bachelorette parties. He basically said it was pretty common for the bride-to-be to ask for sex and her friends would often encourage and participate. Girls night out is definitely code for "I want to get fucked but pretend I don't".

[–]158 points159 points  (27 children) | Copy

I swear, if I could be genuinely gay, I would. These hoes are truly not loyal. It reminds me of a comic strip I saw like a year ago. Left: a bunch of aspiring engineering dudes basically hard working and dreaming up of a perfect life with a wife. Right: the reality of women. In the end, the two merge and after the cock carrousel the wife says to her husband "I don't feel like having sex tonight". That hits me deep inside every time because it is short, yet true.

[–]79 points80 points  (5 children) | Copy

Ive heard from gay men that they are even more non-committal. In my experience gay men have the drama of women with the sex drive of men. Not bashing, just sounds like its even worse on that side.

[–]41 points42 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. My best friend since middle school is gay and he wants to settle down and get married but he always ended up dating man-sluts. He dated through his bachelors, and masters degree and always got cheated on. It isn’t until now that he’s getting he’s doctorate that he has found a stable loyal guy to be with.

Being gay wouldn’t magically solve this issue.

[–]12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

I believe The Red Queen touches on this. Gay male couples are far more likely to cheat on their partner compared to straight couples, where as lesbian couples are far more likely to remain in committed monogamous relationships.

[–]1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

damn. I went on the angle that gay men men=cooperate better than women. Shit. I am curious if gays have a different biochemistry compared to straight dudes that make them involved in drama. What I like about gays, the ones that are down to earth, is how they can be honest about their feelings. Yes, that is a highly feminine thing but still. what i mean is, it seems to me that men (gay and straight) have a wider "frequency" range compared to women. lol it reminds me of the premise of an old joke: "I can never be gay because I can't get into that sorta shape. Basically, women just have to "be" but men, irrespective of sexuality, need to put it work...funny how that works"

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I wonder what the uniting factor between these two groups is, because I know that gay men also tend to ride the CC and refuse to settle down until it is too late, it seems to be a trait common to most people that are attracted to men but I can't say so for sure.

[–]205 points206 points  (3 children) | Copy

The problem isn’t the women, it’s your false expectations. Don’t buy a rental

[–]54 points55 points  (1 child) | Copy

Indeed haha, "don't buy a rental" made me smile, laugh and smirk. Thanks for that =)

[–]17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Upvote for using Indeed.

Teal'c

[–]16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, it's hilarious! One of the chicks blows some bartender like 5 times, she tells her homegirl he came in her mouth each time, before fucking her in the ass. Then she tells her husband "I guess I'm not a sexual person!" I think it's on Illimitable Man's website.

[–]4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

funny thing is, my god, my ex taught me a lot of things indirectly it is unbelievable. First, like a poster in the forum said (paraphrasing): "It is your job to become a better man, not hers." Second, the bit-by-motherfucking-bit she chipped away at my confidence. I tried to lift her esteem compared to her. lol the whole man shaming thing was evident before and after the breakup. The third and main part, she would often talk about herself and who she fucked after we broke up. I had to reel it out of her piece by piece before I saw the full picture. I remember her saying "all i am doing is talking about myself. tell me what you have been up to?" made some bullshit up just so that i can learn more about her and holyshit, she told me stories similar to what you replied. I found it odd that she only told me at first. Then months later, I read a poster saying that this is her disrespecting you. idk but sleeping around would not make me feel comfortable in my skin, it did with her tho. idk the reason for my response is that it feels so twisted and reverse. aren't men supposed to be like what women are becoming today?

omg right, she even said that she might have a high sex drive when she was fucking this dude. I reminded her and said "oh really? didn't you used to complain that I HAD a high sex drive and you were not sexual and touchy?" lol best part of talking to her is catching her out with her bs. fuck man, even pump and dump doesn't sound appealing.

[–] 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Guys are just as promiscuous. Worse, in fact, because there is no social stigma around being a stud. Being gay wouldn't help. The issue is relying on another person for loyalty to your cause. You're on your own. Gotta deal with that shit.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You are on point. haha I shoulda said asexual but yeah

[–]8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

I’ve had a lot of gay friends throughout my life, trust me when I say they slut around just as much. There’s obviously some exceptions but guys get horny a lot so they usually fuck around a lot.

C’est la vie

[–]9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't think this even up for debate... 50% of gay dudes have had over 500 sexual partners. Google it.

[–]2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

hopefully gay dudes are more honest in their filth compared to women tho.

[–]18 points19 points  (7 children) | Copy

Forget em dude. Just go your own way, bang a prostitute every now and then. Bang a slut, just make sure your tracks are always covered just in case.

[–]1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I don’t wanna even do that, because you can still get herpes on your balls condom or not.

Rather just lower my standards and plate some girl.

[–]19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bro if you think regular girls are much cleaner than whores you crazy lol I've had a couple chicks tell me there n counts were over a 100 just regular chicks. At least most whores make you wear condoms and check your junk, these dumb bitches just getting black out drunk and letting whoever fuck em

[–]1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is a "secret code & society" that woman uphold and they die with. That means not ratting on who slept with who and covert missions to spy & extract information on a target.

[–]105 points106 points  (7 children) | Copy

Never had more unsolicited ass thrown in my direction than when I was a bouncer (also the grabs out of nowhere). It was unreal, and actually kind of a turn off after a while.

[–] 213 points214 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah ... when I see a pretty 21 year old girl doing splits on the dance floor while simulating fellatio with some random stranger, I feel kind of empty inside.

[–]171 points72 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its ridiculous. Got a job as a bouncer Senior year of college and I swear these random chicks would come hop on my lap with the audacity of kids jumping on Santa in a department store.

Get the fuck off my lap. I don't know you.

[–]105 points106 points  (3 children) | Copy

Ya it definitely ends up being a turn off for me.

I'm not too sure what it is that actually is a turn off, however I am assuming that it is the idea that this club rat is doing the same thing with multiple guys every night and every weekend. It's to the point where I just hate going to any sort of dance or night club. Also, maybe it's because it's just too fucking easy.

I remember heading out to a club with a group of girls that had talked me into going out. Couple of things happened that night that just puts things into perspective.

1) I had just collected rent from one girl and she had payed me in cash. I didn't have time to make it to the bank, so I went out with a stack of 20's and ended up using this to buy drinks. First couple of times at the bar I pulled out the entire stack to buy a drink, which was stupid, but holy shit the hungry eyes I got from the girls that happened to see.

2) I'm usually not a dancer but when I try to get on the dance floor, I just started getting grabbed. Not just hands around the waist, but girls literally grabbing my crotch and chest.

3) This one girl that came out was talking about how her boyfriend didn't want her to go out to the club on the way over (boyfriend didn't come, because it was a girls night out. Somehow I got dragged along). She kept on bitching about how her boyfriend should trust her and how she is mad that he doesn't. This girl put her hands on my dick within 10 minutes of getting to the bar.

4) Another girl that was married that came out without her husband (once again girls night out), this girl also grabbed my crotch pretty soon after showing up. Not as assaulty as the first girl but still.

5) another girl who was married ended up fucking some guy in his car in the parking lot.

Man I hate clubs.

[–]64 points65 points  (0 children) | Copy

Then people wonder why we inherently distrust.

[–]34 points35 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not just hands around the waist, but girls literally grabbing my crotch and chest.

Believe it or not, its literally their way of determining whether you have the good package or not.

[–]18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

girls night out = cucking night

[–]106 points107 points  (4 children) | Copy

The only real recourse for the guy who is just discovering these truths, is to build himself a life where he can enjoy women but not rely on them and their behaviour.

After years of redpill, I truly only have pity for thots.

[–]84 points85 points  (2 children) | Copy

They're getting their rocks off though. I have pity for the blue pill guys who've worked hard for years to make money and improve themselves only to wife these thots up.

These thots shouldn't be rewarded after years of being a slut with a good guy with a good job to take care of them only to get bored and divorce him and take half his shit. They should have to be sad single cat ladys after they hit the wall, clamoring for the attention of any guy that will give them a pity lay.

[–]18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy

They should have to be single car lady's after they hit the wall

Except that doesn't happen. The most important thing to know is that there's no true Justice in the world. So use that to your advantage, instead of cursing at it

[–]9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yea no shit, that's why I use words like "should" Bout all we can do is spread Red Pills to anyone who will listen. Most dudes gotta learn the hard way.

[–]42 points43 points  (0 children) | Copy

Holy shut this entire thread is a huge redpill.

[–]42 points43 points  (2 children) | Copy

Used to be a doorman at a student bar.

Some TRP related stories that stick out to me are as follows.

1. I was working the smoke pit which was one of my favourite posts. I got to chat up the patrons and this usually made for some hilarious conversations. Keep in mind at this time I was dating someone so I never actively tried to pick up women. One time this woman came out and asked me for a smoke. We chatted about some casual stuff before I asked her why she was so upset (she was holding back tears). She said she didnt understand why guys kept rejecting anything intimate with her and all she was able to find was fwb. This woman was easily an hb8 and I straight up looked at her and said guys dont respect her because she doesn't respect herself, etc. Basically I said if she kept acting like a slut then guys would treat her like a slut (I had just found TRP and this is part of the reason a few months later me and my ex would break up). The face she made was one of the most sincere looks I had ever gotten and I figured this is the first time somebody called her on her shit. Lo and behold I had to reject her cause of my exgf (who was a BPD bitch) but I hope I may have had an effect on her with our conversation at the bar.
2. This hb9 and a chad were having fighting throughout the night. Although I didn't actually hear what they were fighting about it culminated with her dancing with another guy before being caught by chad. Needless to say I saw him walk up to her and whisper something in her ear before he turned toward the exit. Next thing I know she is following behind him and trying to stop him from leaving by pulling at the guy as she is balling her eyes out. She keeps saying how sorry she is, etc. but the dude just keeps walking and tells her to leave him alone. He even goes to hold the door to the club open for her before slamming it in her face and running off. This was a beautiful woman begging this guy to come back and he maintained frame and walked away after she began to slut it up. I'll never forget this.

Reply if you want some more.

[–]7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good stuff, this entire thread really. Keep em coming man!

[–]188 points89 points  (9 children) | Copy

My blue pill lens was shattered as a bouncer when a girl in my college class who bartended, was only 18 and a "good christian virgin" - what she told me when I was trying to game her constantly - went onto a tour bus with a B level band and came back into the bar and told the other female bartender she had just fucked two members of the band and it was amazing.

I can provide many, many examples as can any person who has worked in the bar/club industry for any period of time.

[–]28 points29 points  (2 children) | Copy

Youre spot on with all the examples. One of the craziest stories I have from bouncing was when I was working VIP section on Halloween. Our club was crowded beyond our capacity and so it was literally shoulder to shoulder.

The VIP's wife had to piss and he wanted me to allow her to use the employee restroom in the back of the club. The head of security told me I better do it so not to piss off the VIP.

So I grabbed her wrist and led her through the crowd to the restroom in the back. When we got back there she started to pull me into the rest room, but I stopped and took my hand back. She walked in, pulled her panties down, bent over the sink and looked back at me.

I slammed the door and switched spots with our guy at the door. I wasnt about to risk my job that I despartley needed to pay for school. But every now and then I wonder if I could have gotten away with it. Plus this was my second weekend working and had no idea what was allowed and what to expect.

[–] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you somehow got caught or word got back to her boyfriend she would have probably said that when you led her to the bathroom you barred her in and raped her.

One of the famous rape hoaxes was because a girl slept with a bunch of guys and her boyfriend surprised her back at her room and found out and to get out of it she spun the lie that she was gang raped. It's a first reaction for some women and you know when some lie they even believe their lie at a point and start retroactively changing reality to suit their needs immediately. There was a woman caught with her lover having sex in a car and she immediately screamed to her husband that she was being raped and she went to prison not her husband after he gunned down her lover.

Be careful buddy, you made the right decision.

[–]2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

PM me more stories.. I love hearing shit like this.

[–]1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Interesting story but what’s a B-level?

[–]111 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

A band that tours college bars instead of actual venues. Most of them might have released one album that didn't go far but can still get a crowd of 500 people if they hit the right places.

[–]2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Very interesting my man! I’m actually a musician and have played with a touring band that was similar to this so I have to say I love this story. I‘ve always been afraid to bring girls into the mix after shows or bring girls back because that type of stuff can contribute to bands breaking up or more drama so I always avoid it. It goes back and forth each night on stage with one guy getting more attention form the audience than the other, or someone has a bad night/says something passive aggressive and sometimes power struggles happen so I always avoided the pussy even when there was opportunity. Then come to find out the keyboard player in my band is cheating on his wife with the lead singer. 🤦‍♂️

[–]82 points83 points  (3 children) | Copy

I was a bouncer for five and a half years. I can confirm what OP says. I worked in my local dive bar that ran all the Ravs and local vands in the area. Having 1200 people crammed into the building for the night,with most of woman grinding on the dance floor in nothing more than their underwear was both fun and eye opening. Taught me alot about female nature. If we would have let them they would have fucked just about any random Chad on that dance floor right then and there. I'm sure the ecstasy helped drop those inhibitions just a bit. Though after time getting to know the regulars and learning of the number of them that "rav safe" ,don't use pills or powders and may only drink a bit. They still would be the slut of the night to escape their 9 to 5 was amazing.

My two most memorable moments were the night a girl comes to me as I'm working the front door and says her friend needs help. She is all frantic so I follow her to the women's bathroom. I yell in that I'm coming in before I enter I have had to do this a few times now and the girls don't care because if I'm going in then there is a problem. I enter first thing I see is two chicks screwing on the sink board. They don't give a shit that there are like ten to twelve other chicks there or one ODing in the stall. Just getting off is all they cared for, hell they did not even care I was there. I just helped the chick who was having a really bad time at that monent.

The other was I was when we were booked for a memorial/ benefit on a sat afternoon and I ended up with two opposing MCs in the bar. A few of the guys started getting heated with each other. I'm thinking shit I'm dead there is no way I can deal two bikers by myself let alone the thirty +- that are there between the two MCs. The two who were leading this whole thing were not far from me and all I said to them was "hey, gentlemen we are not here for this" both of them now staring at me for a moment, now I'm really thinking I'm dead. They broke up and all of them just kind of stayed to their own side for the rest of it. Only time I was truly scared doing that job.

[–]26 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy

I used to help my friend DJ at a club for a bit. He saw two girls go into the bathroom together and said they are going to either eat each other out or do some blow. I knew there is a lot of coke at clubs but eating each other out? That was kind of surprising.

[–]13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

So that's why they spend so much time in the bathroom.

[–]1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

two chicks screwing on the sink board

More details pls. For uh, science.

[–]46 points47 points  (14 children) | Copy

Man, I read the entire comment section and now it disgusts me. I read it, tried to sleep, couldn't sleep and somehow felt the compulsion to write here.

I live in a small German town where it's difficult to meet women. Especially when you don't speak German. Although I'm a university student but I haven't had much luck with women here. Or let's say, not the way I would quantify luck. I would love to meet with someone and share a meaningful time. I do get laid, not very often, but it's fine.

But after reading all this, I find it abhorrent to even ask for a relationship. Maybe I should just keep it casual and find a new girl every month, have fun and score more. My impression of average woman was way different. I do have seen women do stuff but reading other people in the section just confirms what I thought wasn't true.

The double standard and the amount of lies these chicks tell is astounding. I was in Bratislava once, met a girl in the hostel, went to club, screwed her in the girls toilet and came back. I thought this happens rarely - as in the time between open and close not more than 30 min. I'm 185 and 58 kg. Decent at gaming but not so very good looking in terms of physique. Theses hoes could get whatever they want.

It's time for a change I guess. We men should hold the bridles after learning this. These hoes are worthless.

[–]45 points46 points  (4 children) | Copy

Just pump and dump all the way up till you meet the "okay" girl who's full invested in you and your goals, and even then, never stop sharpening your blade. don't bother about these hoes, if they want to get wasted it's non your business, you just adapt your belief system to enjoy the outcome of their feral behavior. Also, 185 and just 58kg? Gotta hit some weights bud, that height and weight, you're skin n bones, damn.

[–]30 points31 points  (1 child) | Copy

girl who's full invested in you and your goals,

Shes invested in her goals, and thinks she can leverage yours.

##### She's not on your team

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

as someone who is isn't at the stage to get sex yet. I feel like this is the only way to go

[–]11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy

Dude, I'm 186, 66kg soaking wet.

Teach me your ways. How to skeletor pickup at a night club?

[–]12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

Open up, hold your frame, be carefree (not careless), lead, isolate, get the logistics (who she's with and all), if she's with friends, win them, be the prize, offer value, and most important, have fun.

She doens't need to know you're insecure about something. We all are. Just vibe that you are what you are, take it or leave it.

I open up with: Hey! You're the 2nd interesting person I saw today, when she asks who's the first, I say myself! You could say she's cute, attractive sexy whatever after 10 minutes into the conversation. But end the sentence with "but....., I'm not sure if I like you yet." And do that with a cheeky smiley and/or a smirk. You could say and compliment her anything; never say you like her. Push pull a bit. I usually drop: "Shit!!!!" When she goes what? Ill say: "I was almost about to like you but can't believe you just said that!" Make her think shes winning if she's sleeping with you.

As I said, be the prize. Never give in to her frame, twist her frame to yours. You'll win. Takes practice and lot of embarassment in the first few times. But you'll win.

[–]0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I've been running a "day game" with some success, but I was always deterred from night clubs because I've had shit luck with girls outright rejecting me, because of my skinny looks. Any tips for overcoming that disadvantage?

[–]4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Slide in smoothly. If so, start a platonic conversation and then cross-fade to a sexual ( non platonic ) one. You'll succeed.

[–]9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Don't be upset.
80% of members in TRP are American.
America is leading in cultural marxism and slutiness.
I live in Germany too, and especially here in Berlin, a international town, it's not as bad as OP described. It's slower. Germans still tend to be conservative, although Germany is 5 - 10 years behind America.
You will find those sluts everywhere, howerver it's not like they jump on your dick once they are going out in club.
Most of them are going back home because either the men are pussified or no game at all or both.
So chill your balls and enjoy some pussy :)

[–]1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree. It's not like that here in Germany. Btw, I do come often to Berlin. On weekends mostly! We should meet up if you'd like.

[–]10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I was originally not going to comment on a days old thread but I've been reading this thread for the past hour or so with a neutral expression on my face and I found it funny that you had a hard time sleeping because of reading this while I was totally unaffected. Just shows how long each of us has been on the red pill.

[–]112 points113 points  (1 child) | Copy

The first thing I learned about social dynamics with women is how they use alcohol or recreational drug use for plausible deniability. I've never had any desire to do either and I've honestly missed quite a few lays because of it haha. It's just something infuriating to me about entertaining a woman's desire to avoid accountability and her leveraging what's best for her post sex.

I always enjoy your write ups. It's been awhile.

[–] 25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, thanks ... I've been busy.

[–]36 points37 points  (2 children) | Copy

I have a buddy who's older but bounced at one of the hottest nightclub in my state in the 80s. The amount of stories he has is unreal. He says everytime, whenever you went to work it was guaranteed you were getting fucked or blown. Sometimes both in the same night.

[–]6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

lol in the 80's man... would have been unreal

[–]1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

From what I saw in the 90s, I believe him.

I literally had zero concept of game. Just being above average fitness (Navy Rescue Swimmer) and being a "chill" person got me laid on the regular. College girls were crazy sluts DTF clear back in '90.

[–]37 points38 points  (1 child) | Copy

Former bouncer here. Saw a big girl on "girls night out" once, wearing heels that seemed too high for her weight, she slipped down the wheelchair ramp and hit the ground pretty hard which caused her to simultaneously shit and piss herself. Needless to say they bailed pretty quick, but her shit on the floor stuck around. Cue me and the rest of the crew pushing through a dank, soaking wet 110 degree or hotter club (AZ in the summer) trying to find and clean up her shit. I don't know how that got taken care of in the end, I almost threw up it smelled so bad.

[–]Senior Contributor17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Call the exterminator, there's wild vermin on the loose.

[–]117 points118 points  (36 children) | Copy

This is all true, I bounced back in the day and girls nights out are just an excuse to be cheap sluts. I once took a break and as walked out to the back I noticed some chick getting railed on the hood of my car, some dude that she knew for about five minutes was knee deep in her ass. I told them to get the fuck off my car and she one legged it away dragging her panties on her fuck me pumps. Saw the same thot the next night and I just shook my head at her and she left, never saw her again.

[–] 172 points173 points  (35 children) | Copy

That girl is now someone's wife ... gross.

[–]249 points250 points  (34 children) | Copy

She won't do anything like that again though. She's changed. She's ready to put the past behind her and find a nice guy.

[–] 122 points123 points  (1 child) | Copy

Till the next Girl's night out

[–]60 points61 points  (0 children) | Copy

Which will be next Thursday. I'm never marrying any of these cunts. Fuck.

[–]36 points37 points  (0 children) | Copy

Get the fuck outta here xD could not help but laugh lol

[–]3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]60 points61 points  (5 children) | Copy

Yea I was a bouncer before and I had girls grabbing me every night funny how that double standard works

[–]14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy

YES! I saw the exact thing happen to a bouncer. This 6" dude was build and hard to shove. He just let the sluts grab his arm until they got bored.

[–]13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

6 inches isn't that big.

7 ON HARD BRO. 7 ON HARD. Its killing you, you are literally dieeing

[–]0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Sorry, not native speaker here.

But what do you mean by saying " grab his arm"?

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I assume he means literally that, lets them touch his ceps.

[–]154 points55 points  (4 children) | Copy

I own a bar, shit like this happens all the time. Deeply fascinating but terribly sad.

Even saw bitches dance topless on top of the table when they only had non-alcoholic cocktails.

[–]1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I've always wanted to own a bar ( just cos i think it would be cool and i could bring the girls to me instead of looking for them)

would you recommend it? or nar?

[–]16 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not an easy job, as with owning any other business your work is your life so expect shit to go downhill when you aren't around. It's a really good TRP job because you see AWALT firsthand and since it's your own business you get used to leading and dealing with the consequences of your actions. Being in charge naturally helps a lot with owning your shit and ordering chicks around. Oh and people think you're cool and you get to know a lot of sluts.

On the other hand keeping a healthy lifestyle is really hard , dealing with drunks and other rabble is annoying, profit margins aren't really good and you will get into fights every now and then.

Overall there are safer and easier ways to earn a living.

[–]23 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy

[–]12 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I just read the one about the rich arab. That fucker right there needs to be pinned somewhere if it isn't already.

[–]21 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy

Jesus America is a degenerative mess.

[–] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think most of the world is.

[–]18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

You lied. The thread said bouncer tales not terror tales

[–]18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

While this is a red pill theory confirmed dream, the experiment itself is flawed as being at a club to begin with is already a huge preselection for sluts. It's like going to a gym to assess the health of the general public.

[–]41 points42 points  (1 child) | Copy

I was a bouncer off and on for like 10 years. It depends where you work. I rarely had roadhouse situations or slutty chicks making scenes. Most often it's fucking boring and inconvenient to your next day since you're not getting home until 4am.

Hopefully you're paid cash under the table.

[–] 30 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy

Cash under the table for sure and only on Fri and Sat nights ... kind of white trash till about 12am and then Hip-hop after that ... thots of every description.

[–]Endorsed Contributor65 points66 points  (3 children) | Copy

I am a high school History teacher by trade, but this summer a guy who owns a large bar/pool hall/dance club asked me if I would be interested in bouncing.

Ever want to get one of your students in a headlock and tell him your keeping him there until he explains the significance of the renaissance period? Just saying.

Girls can get away with sexual assault.

I just have to ask what you would do if some guy came up to you as a bouncer and complained about a girl grabbing his wang without permission? Not trying to be provocative, just genuinely curious what your options are.

Even though I am half-a-century old and gruff, I get propositioned in the most vulgar ways every night, am constantly being “twerked” and have even have my penis grabbed a few times.

When you say they can get away with it, I assume that means that you don't have much recourse when this happens.

Drunk dudes think they are Mike Tyson but are more like Steve Urkle.

LOL.

Examples of this truism are too numerous to mention.

Come on and give me some of the funnier ones.

[–] 151 points152 points  (2 children) | Copy

1. I envisioned, just an hour ago, putting a kid who was playing Fortnite while I explained Indentured Servitude in a Kimura.
2. I would probably ask a female who was assaulting men to leave, if the men were brave enough to ask.
3. There is no real recourse for a male victim of female sexual assault in my setting, and if he was too violent in his resistance, she would charge him with assault.
4. A drunk guy who I was escorting out of the club for being a cunt took a lazy swing at me, spilled his drink, slipped on it, fell, and knocked himself out on a giant speaker. When he came to, he started crying.

[–]63 points64 points  (0 children) | Copy

A drunk guy who I was escorting out of the club for being a cunt took a lazy swing at me, spilled his drink, slipped on it, fell, and knocked himself out on a giant speaker. When he came to, he started crying.

Lmao, you can't make that shit up.

[–]2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is no real recourse for a male victim of female sexual assault in my setting, and if he was too violent in his resistance, she would charge him with assault.

this and it's not even close.

I know a guy who had a stalker. he fucked her like once or twice and she wouldn't stop following him around and showing up at his house n shit ( Asian bitches man)

so one night she turned up to the club and my friend had to deal with her. he asked one of the bouncers to kick her out and he did nothing. just looked at him with a blank stare and was like NOPE.

he was an ass though so.

[–]43 points44 points  (4 children) | Copy

As an aside: the people in original post are the parade of human debris that gets to vote and decide the future of this country.

Be fucking afraid...be very afraid...

[–]28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not usually...met tons of the chicks he is talking about and most wouldn't get up at 4pm to go cast a vote...the "married" women are usually hard fucked party girls that settled with some dude as they neared their 30s and they are not interested in voting but just about bitching about their husband\children...finding fuckbuddies for their nights off.

My roommate in college had three such older sisters....and you could spot them a mile away because of their lack of couth, multiple divorces, and sad attempts at hitting on you like they were still the hot flowers of their teen years. Yeah, they would go on girl's nights and fuck some dude....hell, two of them openly had girl's night which were really just going to get fucked by their affair partner. One of them tried her damnest to prop me by calling often saying she had someone she wanted to set me up with and would like to meet to discuss over drinks, asking to get investment advice over a some drinks, blah, blah, blah....NOT INTERESTED BUT THANKS.

Interesting enough...only about 40% of women in most communities visit bars and clubs. For most women in the southern US outside major cities like Atlanta\Miami , a girls night out is a dinner at expensive restaurants\cafes not local dive bars\dance clubs. If your late 20s\30s\40s year old wife is having girl's night out by balling it at some dive bars\dance clubs in these locales then you wife'd up a hard fucked party hoe and should have known better.

[–]2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

The fact you many ITT can't even thrive in that environment... what does that say about them?

[–]1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

“There is a story, often told, that upon exiting the Constitutional Convention Benjamin Franklin was approached by a group of citizens asking what sort of government the delegates had created. His answer was: ”A republic, if you can keep it."

[–]1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm saying that most guys here who shit on the bar crowd tend to be the same guys who couldn't thrive in it if they tried.

[–]17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've been bouncing for 12 years, everything you said is true, and there is so much more. I always tell guys it's a great experience, an awakening of sorts that every young man should strive for as soon as possible.

[–]15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm 22 and bounced at one of the local clubs all through college. It's a college town so our main clientele were college aged people. I can confirm everything posted by OP.

While I wouldn't say its every woman that acts like that, it's enough that any blue pill belief that women aren't hypergamous is quickly crushed.

If your girlfriend goes out with her girlfriends you better pray to God that her friends like you and think you're a GREAT catch. Cause they're the ones who'll keep your girl in check.

I've seen with groups, it's her friends that are either going to pressure her to cheat or pressure her to be loyal.

And us bouncers get sexually harassed on a nightly basis. I've had my ass grabbed, numbers slipped down my pants and my dick grabbed. But that's a plus in my book, I've gotten laid through that job more than anything else.

If you're 6'2"+ and well built, I highly advice you give bouncing a shot. Just dont be the douche tough guy, 9 times out of 10 problems should be diffused verbally.

[–]92 points93 points  (19 children) | Copy

i have two fraternity brothers who played college football; they were male strippers in the off-season to help pay their way thru college, etc. when they did parties, etc, i was their 'handler, manager, bouncer,' etc.

here's what i've observed:

1. at a bachelorette party, i watched about 80% of the women touch dick during the show. about 40 to 50% of the women, from 18 to grandmaw, actually put dick in their mouths. one of the married bridesmaids, took nut to the face while the rest of the women cheered her on.
2. women get fucked during girl's night out and on girl's vacation, especially. when approached by chad or tyrone, women cover for each other when THEY all agree the guy's worth fucking. parking lot bj's, bathroom bj's, etc.
3. at a bbw's birthday party, a group of bbw's WORSHIPED dick as my buddies went around the room. some of these women acted like they hadn't had dick in years! i even got my dick sucked that night from a big broad who my buddies said was phenomenal. i agreed... wish i had her phone number right now. lol.
4. if you're a racist, stop reading here: i once watched my frat brothers get 'mauled' by a group of young & old VERY conservative-looking white soccer moms. these broads were the freakiest of them all. many of them saw dark meat and went absolutely nuts... sucking to completion, fucking (many didn't care about condom use), and some even started kissing & feeling-up each other. it was quiet until they got drunk; then all hell broke loose.

have fun at your bachelor party, and do NOT listen to what women tell you about the 'lame & boring'bachelorette party... THEY LIE ALL THE TIME!! they're having just as much fun fucking around as guys do at bachelor parties-do NOT kid yourself.

i've seen women act like complete animals when a hard body and hard dick (and group encouragement) are in her face.

[–]39 points40 points  (4 children) | Copy

reminds me of my ex. You know, she felt like she accomplished something by being a slut. Idk dude, it is just as bad as the Matrix shit. Haha, makes me want to climb Mt. Everest with a year's worth of food and die peacefully away from modern society

[–]54 points55 points  (1 child) | Copy

I've been there too. Thing is you don't die at the end. You better yourself, you climb that mountain and feel great about YOURSELF. Then you muscle up and use sluts until you're dead. True love died out years ago. Girls just want to be sluts and guys want a loyal, trusting relationship. Funny how it seemed to be the reverse when I was younger. Sad.

[–]37 points38 points  (0 children) | Copy

i blame sex & the city. lol.

it's girls want to fuck as many guys as they choose, have their kids with them, ans slut it up until the wall shows up.

then they want to 'get right with god,' find a good guy and settle down.

i will never argue abt her choices in life as long as she doesn't argue abt my choices to NOT touch her.

[–]Endorsed Contributor35 points36 points  (1 child) | Copy

she felt like she accomplished something by being a slut

That's why most women are losers. All they have to offer is their pussy, which actually is worth zero, since they all come with a pussy, and is the only thing they can get validation with.

Fucking laughable that some are proud of having one which is overly used, if you think about it long enough.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fucking laughable that some are proud of having one which is overly used, if you think about it long enough.

well if you can get a lot of guys. that means you are " worth " something in the women world. the more attention the more " worth" you have right?

funny thing is If these women stopped and looked at what IS valuable. they wouldn't be doing what they are doing

[–]6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why even agree to have a bachelor/bachelorette party at that point. Like, wtf.

[–]14 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Swear this sounds like a porno but then again after opening my eyes...doesn't really shock me to much.

[–]0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Read this post and this just reassured me how smart it was to always wear a condom with girls. I’ve even turned down potentially fucking because I was afraid to go raw with a girl and I even got into a pretty heated argument that pissed me off with one of my friends who thought it was stupid I didn’t go raw on her because he went raw with the slut he had that night. Thing is, any of them could have an STD/STI or HIV and not even know it.

[–]2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

of all the women i've had, i've had EXACTLY 2 that demanded that i wear a condom. it was, "no condom, no sex."

for ALL the rest, they left the decision to use a condom (or not) completely up to me.

i'm sure that with all the other guys, they left it up to them too... smh. they essentially leave their health & future in the hands of men-some of which they barely know.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It seems to me, if you followed the trainspotting 2 route with sick boy and recorded them, you would stand to make a lot of money through blackmails... Just an idle thought.

[–]15 points16 points  (3 children) | Copy

When you get a position of power you notice so much about women. I remember we had to fire and employee once because he made a female employee feel uncomfortable. It was literally light flirting. Not even a week later she’s sexually throwing herself around to other male employees. I heard some of the stuff she said and that was off the top.

[–]14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy

So if you knew it was only light flirting, why did you fire him? Just ‘verbally reprimand’ him and get on with it.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Probably get a bad rep of the club or management which then results to lower sales.

Remember even OP said...

"Girls can get away with sexual assault."

[–]14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

Bartending is quite eye opening as well. I had a group of girls that would constantly hit on me even though I was taken. Girls are keen to offer blowjobs as incentive to plate them. They really don't care if you have a girlfriend because they think they can take her man anytime they want. One girl offered to blow me while my gf slept in my arms... They were best friends!

[–] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

It would’ve been hard to turn down a blowjob like that lol

[–]11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is true. Can confirm.

Source : former DJ and bartender here.

What alcohol does to people when unmeasured is pathetic.

[–]12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have had a close friend, who says she never drinks, go out with a guy and drink with the purpose of sex.

She’s in a LDR, and she is the type that “would never cheat”, which I believed in my BP days. She has a crush on a co-worker, goes out one night and proceeds to down a half bottle of tequila and pass out to wake up to her co-worker on top of her.

Her words “I immediately started to tell him no and to get off, but I’ve liked him for so long and I wanted it. I drank with the intention to have sex”

AWALT, including precious brides to be.

[–]23 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy

That's after reading these kind of post that I know that deep down in my heart, I keep a bluepîll core.

For a reason, these stories from OP and others bouncers/clubbers break my heart, even through I believed I was redpilled enough to understand that the vast majority of modern womens are worthless hoes. Someone's married mother sucking a male stripper in front of her cheering friends ? Like seriously ?

Fuck this man, glad I never had a LTR, and probably will never have with a western female.

[–]10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

deep down in my heart, I keep a bluepîll core.

I think that if you expose yourself to more stories and first-hand experiences like these, the bluepill core will fade away. It did so for me... I guess. The process followed along with the ability to see my surroundings through red-pilled lens.

Hell, the best girl I know (best in terms of her femininity, kindness, submissiveness, manners, ethics, etc.), she actively keeps a side dude in addition to her fiancee. And if she is such a best girl that the others don't really compare, it makes one wonder what sorts of other depraved shit are those other girls up to...

[–]20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy

I used to bounce at a college bar. select girls would stay after closing to get extra drinks and take their clothing off to get their body's licked with whip cream among other things and allow the owner to photograph them. These girls look like innocent little church going girls, they went to church but they were not innocent. edit: the alcohol was always involved and an excuse to act slutty.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributor28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy

These girls look like innocent little church going girls, they went to church but they were not innocent.

A lot of people show up in church on Sunday to get forgiven for what they did on Saturday night.

There is no ho' like a church ho'.

[–]9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

[–]9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Sorry for my English, Dutch bouncer here. I just made an account fort his thread. I’m in my early 30s btw. Security ID

I can confirm that these bouncer tales are true. You can't even imagine what you see if you are a bouncer and sober the whole night.

I'll try to keep this story short: one night there was an international student party at the club where I bounce. So at around 2am this green eyed 18 yo hb9 persian slut showed up with her skinny Dutch boyfriend. His facial aesthetics weren't too bad, but you could tell by his physique, the way he walks and his designer clothes that he was a beta provider for mrs. Persian. Mrs. Persian walked on high heels, shorts and wore a redflag attention seeking see trough shirt.

2:30 am: she walked outside to smoke a cig and started talking to me with her slutty friend. We just chit chatted about casual stuff and then her provider showed up. He was mad because he bought her a drink but she went outside, so they both walked away like 25 meters and they argued while I was talking to her friend. What I noticed is that the provider had no frame and started to act like a little baby with tears on his cheeks (srs). So she left him and walked to her friend I was talking to. She then said something like this to me: 'at least you are mature'. So I gave her a handkiss and told her to go inside and said 'we will talk later, enjoy your stay'.

Her boyfriend was still outside and you could tell he was mad af and was looking mad at me. For the record, I'm 6'5 and around 280lbs so he was probably too scared to even say something to me about it and he left. Trough the night hb9 walked in and out for a few more cigs and smiles every time she enters the door.

5 am: Club was closed. I was checking the toilets if nobody was still inside etc. Then I heard some one knocking on the door. This happends every night, because people always forget their jackets or lose their keys and stuff like that. So I walked to the door and there was mrs. Persian.

Me: Whats up mrs. Persian?

HB9: I-I think I forgot my jacket inside...

Me: you had no jacket when you came here. Give me a sec, let me grab my bag.

HB9: wait!

Me: No you wait (and I closed the door).

So once I came outside I placed my hand in her neck and guided her to my car. It's a 5 min walk. I asked her if she lived here by herself but she said she had room mates. Since I'm pretty known by the local students in this place I decided I would not go to her place. I live like 50 minutes away from the place I work so it was no option for me to bring her home and pay for a taxi or something like that.

So once we sat in the car we made out for a few mins and I told her to suck me off, because I needed to relax after a 'turbulent night' and so she did. I really do like feet, so I told her to rub my weener with her toes and soles. She didn't understand it at first, but I said just do it already, so she did and she was making moaning noises anyway (lol). Shortly after I blew my load in HB9's throat and she left the car.

We didn't exchange numbers, but she found me on instagram and followed me (not hard to find me online, because at least 200 students follow me, even though I have like only 5 pictures).

6 months later: we never talked to each other again, but she still shows up with her provider shes still together with at the club I work. Even though we don't speak each other, every time she makes eye contact and smiles.

Tldr: 18 yo hb9 sucked the bouncer and probably never told her boyfriend.

[–]4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn. It's not that I have to struggle 10 times as much but it's that I don't think I'll ever get an experience like that. Fuckk. 5 ft 8 just a couple more inches. Sigh. At least I won't be the cuck

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Damn do you have any more stories? Would love to hear them!

[–]18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly reading this and knowing it is completely true makes me feel sick.

[–]9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

My dad use to bounce. He's told me some crazy shit before. Thought about doing it myself and honestly, I'd probably get arrested in the clock. Being around a bunch of drunk "alphas" or just drunks in general has made my eye twitch.

Thanks for sharing. He always said it was never about who was the best fighter although it helped, but who could talk someone down. Usually by that time one if the behemoths would have knocked the offender out or had them in a choke hold of some sort.

[–]5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Used to bounce during college , was fun in the begging but I never though I would say it , but partying got old after the first 3-4 months. Had a lot of cool stories from it and met a lot of people, but damn did it make me lose all faith in women lol

[–]8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Could be a bit of selection bias at work here. Girls at clubs are by definition a bit slutty, if not a lot slutty. I've had over a dozen long terms (i always break it off b/c im one of those oft mention commitment-phobic men) and none of my girls ever go to clubs or bars. I would never marry one who did, or who kept the company of club rat girlfriends.

[–] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

some selection bias for sure ...

[–]12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

Been a bouncer just over a year and I have to say all this is true

[–] 22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm cynical anyway .. this just confirms it

[–] 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

How'd you get into it? I just looked for online ads but didn't see anything in my area.

[–] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Have been teaching locally for 25 years; I know lots of people.

[–]7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

For me it was based on who i knew. I only did a few shows: Ludacris. Zeds Dead, Desiigner... But i worked out regularly with a group of guys in their 40s who invited me to join them.

If i hadnt of moved 2k miles away I'm sure id still be doing it as a side job. Life is about who you know. Im now in an apprenticeship for a $100k/yr career all because i met one dude who liked me. Back to bouncing, context is Im 5'11 170lbs. I did deadlift well over 500 at the time, and they knew it, so that helped. Plus i had a solid 4 yrs of martial arts training behind me. [–] 7 points8 points (1 child) | Copy > I have had females insist that I forcibly remove unattractive guys who barely touched them I've been on the wrong end of that back when I was a badly dressed beta. And of course the bouncer wants any excuse to beat someone up so how can one even argue most of the time? But I tried anyway: "why would I have 'groped' 2 girls I've never seen before (until you grabbed me by the neck and pointed them out) and can honestly say I'm not attracted to anyway?" [–]6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Interesting. To each his own. I’ve always feared going raw with a girl I just hooked up with because this girl could’ve fucked like over 40 guys or even 100 before me even though she acts like she never does stuff like this and acts innocent. lol [–] 1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy " pretty swole old guy who is good at diffusing conflict" Scene of Arnold saying "If it bleeds, we can kill it" popped into mind... [–]24 points25 points (11 children) | Copy I mostly agree with these tales, however in my experience bouncers can be fucking pricks/cock blockers. I remember one night I was grinding with some girl and she was on the hand rail and the bouncer told me numerous times to get off the rail. Same bouncer saw me hitting on chicks and pulled me away from them, and told me to stop annoying them. This was obviously before I started lifting and was a skinny “pretty boy” in my younger days. Anyone else agree? Not necessarily knocking OP, but I never really jived with bouncers since then. P.S. clubs are a waste of time if you are trying to get laid, all the older dudes (I’m 28) know this. [–]Senior Endorsed Contributor22 points23 points (8 children) | Copy she was on the hand rail and the bouncer told me numerous times to get off the rail. So get off the fucking rail. Look, when I bounced, I didn't want to get in anyone's way, but the venue will have rules. One of ours was "no standing on the speakers". If you were grinding her while ON the speakers, then I'd make you get off the speakers. Same bouncer saw me hitting on chicks and pulled me away from them, and told me to stop annoying them. Were you annoying them? If you're in a hot chick-dependent venue and one of them flagged him, then yeah, you got off light. [–]10 points11 points (7 children) | Copy I don’t think anyone flagged him, I was just a dude having fun and not giving a fuck. I got the impression that the bouncer saw some guy spitting game with chicks actually grinding on him, that he got jealous and tried be alpha. If my memory serves right, he was a buff black dude and the chicks who were feeling me were black themselves(possibly, jealous, who knows). [–]Senior Endorsed Contributor5 points6 points (6 children) | Copy Maybe, but doubtful. He could have been fucking with you for not getting off the rail when he told you to. [–]0 points1 point (5 children) | Copy No offense Vasily, but if he was fucking with me, then it reinforces the douche stereotype. I’ve seen bouncers fuck with smaller guys before (I’m 5’9 and was way skinnier then). [–]6 points7 points (2 children) | Copy Vas is trying to teach you about a male heirarchy. Play along to get along. Bouncers can be your best friend if you play it right. Just make their life easier. It's not even hard. Kind of like avoiding a ban here [–]0 points1 point (1 child) | Copy The point was the bouncer was a straight up dick, I’m usually a friendly guy. You could play along and still get your ass chewed. I know I’m not the only guy here who has had terrible experiences with them. [–]6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy No one cares how friendly you are. You're not as important as you think. Bouncer doesn't care, just stay off the railc [–]Senior Endorsed Contributor6 points7 points (1 child) | Copy Except you made yourself a target for not getting off the rail. [–]3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Yeah, i worked as a bouncer as well. If you dont listen to me when I tell you something the first time, or you go back to doing it after a while, you are placed on a mental list of people to watch out for. I will watch you much more carefully than other people, because I know you don't respect the establishment, or the rules. Dont get on a bouncers shit-list, or you wont have a fun night and be able to get away with little things. If you're a regular and respectful, and tip me occasionally, you can get away with a lot more because I know you wont fuck around enough for me to get involved. [–]4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy but alpha males all read the sidebar and know about muh abundance mentality thanks for posting man, it's like pulling teeth to educate some of the people on this sub that other guys will do that shit when they see competition, in this case the bouncers probably wanted to get the girl drunk and run a train on her after closing this happens to girls a lot, especially if someone drugs their drink, the bouncers will take advantage later [–]3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Well damn, I was just pointing out that bouncers were douchey but I’m sure it does happen to women. The ones I see at clubs have an air of “ ill fuck you up young boy if you try anything”, which is understandable but they don’t have to be total dicks to other guys. [–]3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Can confirm. Worked bar in my late 20s. 6ft2, Rock-Chad. Drunk chicks are ‘hands on’ with their sexual assault. Even married. ‘Bitch I’m just trying to work’ [–]8 points9 points (1 child) | Copy Lol do you see any former students? [–] 1 points [recovered] (15 children) | Copy If you can't fuck a slut in the bathroom at a club or get a BJ you shouldn't be doing night game, especially club game. AF/BB top 5-10% in it's truest form. [–]35 points36 points (0 children) | Copy Like everything practice makes perfect. You sound like you’re gatekeeping. Night game is probably easier if anything... You’re already at the venue .. spit game and figure out what works [–]6 points7 points (12 children) | Copy why get a BJ in the bathroom when you can take her home and do whatever you all night? [–]34 points35 points (3 children) | Copy To post on reddit\humblebrag to his buddies about it.....of course. Honestly, I been around chicks for a decade and I have never once wanted some skank to give be a blowjob in one of the filthiest places in the entire world...a men's restroom of a dance club\bar. hell, if the STDs from the trot doesn't kill you then the bubonic plague like diseases hold up in the crevices those places will....might as well play a game of russian roulette for fun. I always laugh at the lack of self-awareness of dudes who think that they are impressing people with tales of such shit when really people are rolling their eyes and going what the fuck scezzey shit are you doing with your life? Sex in a dance club restroom....bahahahahhha [–]24 points25 points (2 children) | Copy Second filthiest, first would be the women's room [–]14 points15 points (0 children) | Copy This is true it's shocking how much more disgusting womens' public bathrooms usually are. [–]4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy For a second I thought you meant her bedroom [–]0 points1 point (4 children) | Copy How can you take her home... her boyfriend out in the club is taking her home... [–]0 points1 point (3 children) | Copy If she's sucking your dick in the bathroom, that is not her BF, he just covers her entrance and buys her drinks... but sure, i bet there is some of that going on. [–]0 points1 point (2 children) | Copy Well that was 100% sure what was going on when it happened to me. And this was a normal day time bar/club type place, not a pitch black lights everywhere rave type club so I could see her walking out of place with him afterwards. They walked right by my group. [–]0 points1 point (1 child) | Copy U mean, walked by you to the bathroom or to leave? [–]0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy I mean after me and her finished in bathroom she went back upstairs to boyfriend, I followed after separately back to my group. Later on she walked by me when she was leaving. [–]18 points19 points (0 children) | Copy That's sad and gross. Thanks for sharing. [–]6 points7 points (5 children) | Copy Problem is, knowing this information doesn't save you if you're dating a girl who loves the girls night out. You really can't win, you either let her slut around or you come across as a controlling, abusive fucker telling her what to do. [–] 18 points19 points (0 children) | Copy You have to establish that early on. [–]8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy No you set a rule. No bs. Either that or you're out. Righteousness has nothing to do with it. [–]5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy dating a girl who loves the girls night out. You really can't win This should be a statement, never ever date seriously any girl that likes the night life, clubs, bars, etc. these are the slut girls you have in your rotation when going out to get new talent is too much work [–]0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Agree, especially considering I hate wasting time & money in shitholes like that. [–]2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy if you're dating a girl who loves the girls night out It saves you, unless she's the only shot at pussy you're going to get [–]8 points9 points (2 children) | Copy Kind of off-topic but I used to bartend in college at a local dive bar. After preparing limes and shit I'd work the door until it got busy. All I had to do was check I.D. Around 8 or 9 a bouncer would take over the door and I would go to slinging beers and well drinks. One weekend we had a bad fight (wasn't there for it) and the owner decided to hire a new and lead bouncer to get the group up to speed. I was doing my usual Friday night routine and checking I.d at the door. Mind you I'm a manlet, 5'7" 210 lb.. This dude is maybe 6' and overweight, I can't recall his name, lets say Bill. Bill comes up to me telling me he can't have me working the door, and if something where to happen what could I do? Basically I sum it up as he's a dick, whatever, I'm here to make cash. So I go to my bar and start working. Bill and I have a relationship deteriorate over the course of about 6 months. He was always condescending and demeaning, but I ignored him and made that money. Now the bar I was responsible for faced a dance floor, with its back facing the entrance walk way. I had some drunk hens get behind my bar one night trying to be cute grabbing liquor. After that situation I told Roadhouse Bill to put some chairs or have one of his henchmen keep an eye on the little knoll behind my bar. He blew it off. Fast forward, it's Christmas time in Maine. My good friend has made assistant manager. Its a slow night on a Saturday due to a blizzard. We decide to rent 2 rooms at a days inn next door and get sloppy ass drunk with a few locals at the bar. Only 3 on staff, me, him, and a waitress. After a lot of beers we moved onto some tequila from my little bar (this is important) and start mixing drinks and shot glass towers falling all over the place. Well fate should have it a bus of Canadians had pulled in to stay at the hotel next door. So we are pickled and about 20 Canadians come in to drink and eat bar food. We have a blast with these crazy Fuckers. We ended up slaying about 3 bottles of tequila from the little bar I work at, how, I assume with our Canadian brethren. Morning comes, and we have to clean this frat house mess first thing. We clean, I leave for campus and put it out of mind. Friday comes along and we have meeting with all the staff . The owner is fucking pissed, he did a bottle count and my bar is missing these bottles of tequila. I'm blanking on what to say, and then it hits me like a lightning bolt. "I fucking told Bill about that about a month ago! People getting behind my bar stealing shit ." The owner looks at Bill, and asks if that's true. Bill says yes and before he can defend himself the owner tells him he's fired and to get the Fuck out of here. My buddy the assist manager is trying to keep a straight face. I had a shit eating grin watching that fucker leave. [–]9 points10 points (1 child) | Copy Smooth. He was honest at least. [–]2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy A bigger note to take. Cause if bill said no think both would be done or op would be done [–]7 points8 points (1 child) | Copy As god is my witness I will never get married. [–] 7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Give up if you want, but not because you feel that you must. [–]1 point2 points (5 children) | Copy Is there a height minimum for bouncers? I’m 6’2”, I can get bigger. Am I too short [–]116 points17 points (3 children) | Copy I worked as a bouncer for a club north of San Francisco for a summer. My stories aren't nearly as hair raising, but I'm 5'5". I am, fortunately, very good at talking situations down before they get to violence. Having two black belts and being a Krav Maga instructor doesn't hurt. I can fight. I'd just rather find a way for things to go smoothly. It's a sidestep of game: look like you know what you're doing. Be swole. Be confident. Be pleasant. My best weapon in an altercation was a friendly smile. The best story I have is when some drunk dude started harshing my vibe while I was on door. I just kept smiling at him and doing a little agree and amplify and suddenly his buddy ran out of the bathroom, saw him, and literally sprinted over to drag him away, apologizing to me the entire time. "He's drunk! I'm so sorry!" Last thing I heard was him telling his drunk friend, "You fucking moron! That isn't the guy to be fucking with! He's four feet tall! How do you think he got this job! He would have killed you!" I had to try to keep a straight face while that was going on behind me. [–]5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Last thing I heard was him telling his drunk friend, "You fucking moron! That isn't the guy to be fucking with! He's four feet tall! How do you think he got this job! He would have killed you!" I had to try to keep a straight face while that was going on behind me. Ok, that's fucking hilarious. His friend might have been completely RIGHT about you that night too (especially with his friend's drunk ass). He had a good bro. [–] 4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy No ... I'm 6'4". Our best bouncer is barely/if 6' [–]2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Man, I know this. I was shocked at the way the first girl I became intimate behaved. This was not a sweet and innocent girl. This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but it honestly turned me off. [–]5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy 500+ comments and counting whewwww [–] 5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Yeah .. accidentally struck a nerve ... maybe the mods should endorse me now [–]4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy I never got the reason why women love to act like savages in clubs...like when they start ti dance on tables or when they throw up because thsy had too much alcohol. Why they love to act like that? It seems like every girl nowdays is a party girl. [–]13 points14 points (1 child) | Copy This reminds me of a night when I went to a club with a plate and her sister that insisted to join us because her 50 years old beta provider husband "annoyed" her and that he's an "idiot". 1.She slapped the ass of one of the bouncers inside of the club and started grinding against him. 2. When she left, she literally asaulted the bouncer at the entrance trying to kiss him for 10 minutes !!! I was in shock watching how the guy would just laugh and just minimally keep her away from him... I was wondering what would have happened with me if i would have done that ! [–]0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy I was wondering what would have happened with me if i would have done that ! He probably would have let you kiss him! [–]12 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Great post. Experience and observation are the best teachers. [–] 2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Give wymyn freedom and they will mess up everything. There is a good reason why women have been treated as incomplete personalities throughout history. It wasn’t misogyny. It was a necessity. It was protecting them from themselves. Wymyn are stuck in the age when they had their first Menstruation. The body changes took all energy. Her personal development stopped for the benefit of being a birth machine, I’m not angry about wymyn being childish. I’m angry about men who are too stupid to distinguish between this truth and their yearnings to be with a decent, adult person that is a female. It’s entirely fictional. Fuck them, but never share your life with them. [–] 2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Well ... mostly true, but my wife of 30 years is pretty cool [–]2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy I've been to so many bars, pubs, clubs, raves, events or concert. Even during the week, from the start, from the main time, to the point where they closed. What I always find astonishing that I never witnessed anything close to a 50:50 male:female ratio. The best I saw was like a 65:35 ratio and the worst like 99:1 (smaller rap concert, was on death metal concert with a better ratio). I speaking of my hometown and the two far bigger towns next to it where I hang out. I have 3 friends(two barkeepers one bouncer) that work for the company/person that owns several bars and clubs in my town so they see different kind of bars and clubs to different times and events. They confirm these male over representation. The bouncer guy was supposed to let in more women than men for one night and they were not able to do so unless they let in way to less people in. Funny think is, this ratio is still present in university fields where the male:female ratio is the opposite from STEM fields, where most of the guys show up to those parties and only a few of the women. [–]2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy I dunno if it's been mentioned in the hundreds of comments but here in the uk there was a case of a bouncer who fucked so many women on "girls nights out" that when it was revealed he had HIV literally hundreds of women turned out for testing. Originally the nurses thought he was bull shitting when he said how many partners he had but lo and behold out came the sluts from the woodwork. Guys who let their ltr go to a club alone are fucking idiots. Here is the link for those interested https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/a-town-in-fear-the-fatal-legacy-of-doncasters-lady-killing-bouncer-743031.html [–] 1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy So the bouncer fucked all these girls, but the girls are the sluts? Nice [–]0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Never said the guy wasn't, but the focus of the post is about the debauchery seen in clubs. It's pretty much a given that a guy will be a slut if he can and anyone who has seen bouncer acitivty will concede that women are too. You won't hear that in the press though. [–]5 points6 points (35 children) | Copy Do you ever see short but other wise decent looking guys take any girls out of the bars? [–] 34 points35 points (28 children) | Copy Yep ... the most successful guy there is about 5'8" .. very muscular and well-dressed. [–]3 points4 points (24 children) | Copy I edited my post but you're fast. 5'8 isn't short though. I'm talking like 5'6 or under. [–] 21 points22 points (6 children) | Copy Never seen a dude 5'6 or less do well there yet [–]1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Are you saying that just to torment him? [–] 7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy no ... I'm sure a well-built small guy could score. [–]3 points4 points (3 children) | Copy Thanks. That's about what I expected. [–]15 points16 points (2 children) | Copy I know a guy who's 165cm tall which is around 5'6. Goes ok at night game but where he really scores is industry events and shit like that. If you're chasing basic bitches in clubs then you have to fulfil basic needs. If height is one of those, you're shit out of luck. It's nothing to despair over though. You just need to pick up elsewhere. Get good at something, lift and dress right, frame and game and you'll have no trouble finding somewhere that you're in the top 10%. [–]4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy industry events So he focuses on day game in a professional setting? Right now I want easy sex. Emphasis on the easy. [–]2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Usually night events. And fair call, I wouldn't say it's easy. [–]3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy As a 6' guy, I consider myself short. The "average" being 5'10 is probably dropped by the midget chinese or something. That being said I am from Serbia where the average according to wikipedia is just under 6'. [–]4 points5 points (15 children) | Copy 5'8 is definitely short though. But yeah obviously not as bad as men who are even shorter. [–]7 points8 points (12 children) | Copy Uh, as a 5'5 white guy I'd kill to be 5'8. Average height is 5'10 so being 5'8 isn't that bad. [–]7 points8 points (1 child) | Copy Same here brother, 5'5 and I'd kill for a few more inches. Luckily i'm in a frat at WVU and girls are ridiculously loose for me literally just because I'm in a frat. It's dumb as shit. Loud nightclubs are easily the hardest for me though, height is tough to overcome. [–]0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy I wish I could have joined a frat. But I started college late and transferred in. Needless to say I didn't get any action in college, or out of college for that matter. Being short and introverted has basically turned me into a monk. [–]6 points7 points (7 children) | Copy Women can't tell the difference. spacial logic is a male quality [–]0 points1 point (6 children) | Copy Women can tell the difference between 5'5 and 5'8. It's even easier for them to tell the difference between 5'5 and 5'10. [–]1 point2 points (5 children) | Copy When they are standing beside each other, or you're shorter than her, sure. thats not what I said though. [–]0 points1 point (4 children) | Copy OK, what do you mean? What can women not tell the difference of? [–]3 points4 points (3 children) | Copy Inches. Your dick is big when you're dating, it's a small dick when you break up. She doesn't know if you're 5'8 or 5'10, only that you're taller or shorter than her, or the guy beside you. They only know how to compare. [–]12 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Bah. I'm the same height and I stopped caring. The only time I want to be taller is when mom hides my goddamn Christmas presents on top of the fridge. Be nice to be able to reach the Coco Puffs without a stool, tho. [–]0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Sorry man, I just mean that 5'8 would be considered short by the vast majority of girls nowadays. It sucks, but it is what it is. [–][🍰] 6 points7 points (1 child) | Copy As a guy who is 5'8" only when I wear the right shoes, loud crowded nightclubs are easily the most difficult gaming spots for me. If they have lounging areas, then maybe I have a fighting chance. Otherwise, daygame and dating apps have been my main source of new girls. [–]0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Hmm, that may change things. The main thing I like about night game is that I get to be tipsy and get out of my head. Sober day game sounds terrifying. I haven't had any lucks on apps. Apparently all my pictures are horrible. [–]1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy use of force continuum. Officer Presence and verbal commands defeats most conflicts before they start. The guys around that height (me incl) avoid guys who have something to prove (david V goliath) on both sides the spectrum. [–] 0 points1 point (1 child) | Copy What do they dress like? Just curious because I want to look better (and coincidently am 5'8) [–] 0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy The most successful guys wear nice jeans, nice shirts, no t-shirts and nice shoes ... more about well-fitting and neat that fashi0n. [–]2 points3 points (5 children) | Copy Tall gets you noticed, personality and fitness gets you laid. Work on what you can, accept the rest. [–]1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy How am I supposed to get laid if I never get noticed? [–]4 points5 points (2 children) | Copy Let it go man. I'm 5'5", if you keep obsessing over your height then it'll consume you and you'll never improve. It's as Dances said, work on what you can and accept the rest. For the record, I've had pretty good success with women since swallowing the red pill. You will get shit-tested about your height, and if you're insecure about it then you've failed. Frame is more important, know that you have value despite being short. [–]2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy The only reason I "obsess" over my height is because I keep getting turned down by women. If women were interested in me I wouldn't care how tall I was. I'm almost 37 and no matter how much effort I put into improving myself it's never enough. My height is the one thing I cannot fix. How can I not be insecure when every post in this comment tree basically said that short guys fail at night game? Lastly, how do I have value when women keep turning me down? That's women literally women telling me that I'm worthless. BTW I'm not trying to argue, I'm absolutely terrified about my life. [–]0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy That's cool man, I didn't think you were trying to argue, I've just been in this same boat. This comment thread is mostly referring to one specific area. I'm an oldmate from Australia, people around here are giants and they make no qualms about pointing it out (constant shit testing from both genders). Short guys like ourselves don't fail at night game, but you have to accept that we are severely disadvantaged because of height. It'll get you noticed less. That's why frame is so important, because you'll get rejected a lot due to it, and that makes it very easy to get discouraged. The only way you'll have a strong frame is if you truly don't care about your height, and the only way you'll do that is to just accept that you're short, accept everything that comes with that, and move on. Unless you're willing to spend upwards of ~$30-50k USD for leg lengthening surgery (plus the time commitment that comes from recovery), there's nothing you can do.

I'm a short dude, but I'm well built and quite handsome (not trying to brag, just telling it as it is). I've had women turn me down on the spot, only to change their minds later on; watch their actions, don't listen to their words, that's how you pass shit tests.

Also, in my experience, older women (as in women in their mid to late 20's) tend not to care as much about height, if at all.

Good luck ya little stud

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Move to a place where people are shorter

[–]1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nice post, would love to read more like it! One question though: if the gf tells you she's going on a GNO, what would the appropriate response be?

[–] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

... I made it clear to my wife when we were 16 that there will be no drinking on a GNO and no clubs/bars or GTFOH.

[–]1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Interesting how you mentioned the soon to be bride at the club. When most of the girls I’ve pulled at clubs have been either married woman and then I find out they are married on their Instagram the next day. So I never talk to them ever again, and have direct personal experience with this one. I could not tell you why this is and I certainly do not look for married girls by any means, it’s just a connection thing that happens a lot. Thank you for sharing this! Post more in the future!

[–]1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

-Alcohol doesn't force you to do things you normally wouldn't

-Alcohol lowers your inhibitions so you do things you want to do, but normally don't have the balls to do

[–]4 points5 points  (15 children) | Copy

Just a quick question, besides throwing out sleazy ho’s what kind of history do you teach? I prefer U.S. post Civil War.

[–] 11 points12 points  (14 children) | Copy

Advanced Placement United States History mostly ... all eras.

[–]0 points1 point  (13 children) | Copy

Shit I was in Honors in high school. AP was a whole different level. What’s your favorite era to teach? I personally like the 1940’s-60’s.

[–] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I like the era between the wars ... 20s and 30s

[–]1 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy

Shit I’m going to be taking Honors U.S. history this year. Any tips?

[–]2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

Take good notes. It will pay off in college. The teacher that I had in high school was strict. His quizzes were random and at the start of class to see if we read from the previous night. His tests were fill in the blank and if you didn’t know it you didn’t know it. Spelling counted too. He was an excellent teacher and I’d def take him again but he was strict and to the point.

Take good notes, learn to annotate. Read the book obviously for what they assigned. I got a 96 in the class from doing this on top of other honors classes as well. I didn’t study as much because of the notes I took. Some people would read the whole chapter. Nah that’s a waste. Learn to pick out the key parts.

[–]10 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Furthermore, learn to take notes!

Seriously, think about your schooling. Has any of your teachers actually taught you thing one about taking notes? Lecture notes are different than easing annotations. Can you do both? If not learn and learn now!

[–]1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think I’m doing ok considering my GPA is 3.8 lol. Everyone takes notes differently.

[–]10 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Knowing you as I do, Rudey, I'm surprised it's that low. My post was more towards the guy who asked. I was just riding your coattails.

[–]1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ah ok, mb. I can get it to a 4.0 but the degree matters more then the GPA at the end of the day.

[–]0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I can say read the matierals given. Maybe watch America the Story of Us to give you a small grasp to then help you get familiar in some of the lesser talked on eras (1830's -40's) Resonctruction and Turn of the Century

[–]0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

We watched some of those last year I think. Idk if they were those exact episodes but I know we watched the series.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It helps bring some context

[–] 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

This is a longshot, I've graduated from CV, but is this Mr. M?

[–] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nope ... don't know what any of those letters represent.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Guess stories like these are just that common, haha

[–]0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

why not try make some money out of those chicks?

Make a civil suit over the criminal one and claim economic damages n shit

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, I seen this first hand as well. In real life and on Tinder and POF. I've talked to women on line and they didn't like talking dirty with me and were only polite, but with a profile of a handsome guy, they seemed like I was talking to a totally different woman, it's pretty funny both profiles had the same "about me" and bio lol.

[–]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sooo any tips on how to do better or nah not really

[–]0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

OP, how do you like being a teacher?

[–] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I love it ... most of the time

[–] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Enjoy it while it’s still fun. After doing it for a few years though, you realize that it’s a shitty job that underpays you horribly for the shit you have to deal with and the risks you have to take.