Men blamed for being sexless. Again.

QuerulousShark · 2023-02-28T08:38:34+00:00

it's all so tiresome

what's the point of living in a world that hates me

Dyne313 · 2023-02-28T10:20:08+00:00

“Work on yourself” is one of the worst platitudes ever spoken into the world by a woman. 99 times out of 100 it means “Get more attractive”. 6 foot tall with a decent job? They don’t say shit.

needalife94 · 2023-02-28T11:11:06+00:00

Men have unrealistic expectations ? If that's true why do we get made fun of so much sexually ? Examples , cumming to quickly or having a "small" dick.

Men play to much games ? Women play just as much, if not more games than men.

Men only want sex ? Women only want money.

Men need to work on themselves ? Yet females think that they are the best any guy ever can get.

Dismal-Cabinet5321 · 2023-02-28T12:26:24+00:00

If women don't want sex or relationships, they are empowered, strong, independent.

If men don't want sex or relationships, they are creepy, dangerous, incels, a problem to be attacked and solved.

But wait... if men do want sex or relationships they are also creeply, dangerous, incels, or a problem to be attacked and solved too.

Literally can't win.

Merebankguy · 2023-02-28T09:00:19+00:00

The double standards are ridiculous for years women have to taught to be"proud independent woman" and for over 50 years they have said "women don't need men to be happy" but we start doing then it's a problem. No you Greg Matos can get stuffed.

needalife94 · 2023-02-28T11:14:57+00:00

And this is why I choose not to date.

Boeijen666 · 2023-02-28T14:31:51+00:00

Its only going to get worse. And its probably going to be the undoing of the human race honestly.

Dependent_Skill_9924 · 2023-02-28T08:39:03+00:00

Yup. Shit aint it. Sick to death of it.

Joneboy39 · 2023-02-28T20:49:16+00:00

jts all horseshit, the ultimate gas light..

spend all day and in so many ways telling men they are bad.

but the shit they want from men- theyll bully you all day to get that.

go die for country, go work the coal mine, support society and get married .

nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Spare_Development615 · 2023-02-28T14:12:48+00:00

Blah blah blah

Women are perfect.

Men are slobs who need to move to nepal, attain nirvana, ingest protein powder for breakfast, lunch and dinner, bench 600 pounds, amass a net worth of $2 million, buy a lambo, learn esperanto, convert to pastafarianism, take 13 showers, pee sitting down, and self-flaggelate as part of a healthy weekly bleeding regimen, then maybe more women will give them a chance.

See? It's all your fault, you just have to want it bad enough.

Besides, women don't owe anybody fairness, they're too busy pulling in 6 figures from all the makework cake jobs the %1 has created specifically for them that don't require any skills or qualifications, have a vagina? Congrats, you are now an IT manager, you go queen.

All the rest of you scrubs should learn from their example.

Work you dogs, work.

KrazyJazz · 2023-02-28T12:07:41+00:00

Consider the source, for cry out loud. Blaming men and scratching women's back is his bread and butter

The very first comment under the NYPost article says everything you need to know about the state of the 'dating scene' nowadays:

Meeting women socially and through work is the best way to meet women who are marriage minded. However, many men fail to make sure they have a job skill that makes a decent salary. Others have a criminal record, untreated adult ADHD, substance abuse problems etc. Church is a good place for marriage-minded men to meet women. Many men only want good looking women who are simply out of their league, while some women only care about looks and money. If men can improve their social skills and get involved in "Meet up" groups such as hiking or riding bikes, it's just a matter of time until he meets a nice woman through that social circle.

I get the "don't be a felon' bit, but the rest? 'Make good money. Meet my needs. Do as I say, shut the fuck up and I might eventually select your sorry ass as MY life partner but I'm not like the other girls only interested by looks and money.'

Dreamy. Where do I sign?

suj1290 · 2023-02-28T11:33:43+00:00

Inspite of all this they never mention more women are having sex than ever.Women are sharing men among themselves

blaizken_420 · 2023-02-28T18:24:47+00:00

Men have unrealistic expectations. Men play too much games

Now this is projection from women, lmao

SouthernSeeker · 2023-02-28T18:11:25+00:00

It's actually very simple: there are powers (both individuals and institutions) that scramble desperately for power, and vehemently don't want the masses turning against them. The two easiest groups of people to control are those who are angry, and those who are afraid. Anger makes you want to act and keeps you from thinking clearly; fear makes you want to hide and keeps you from thinking at all.

Those last two sentences will explain 90% of politics.

But since there are so many powers out there, simply terrifying and whipping up everyone isn't enough; sooner or later a rival would turn the mob against you, and down you'd go. Not killed, usually, but forced from power. But if you turn the mob against itself? Convince half of it that the other half is "oppressing" it, and secretly trying to enslave it? Oh, then you can do whatever you like.

Turning the battle of the sexes into an all-out war was a masterstroke; painting it not as an almost dharmic struggle between opposing forces that love each other, but as a Manichean struggle between enemy forces that hate each other easily puts the more suggestible at one another's throats, and convincing them to take such genuine inequalities that exist not as problems to be solved, but as evidence of "systematic oppression" helps ensure those inequalities never get fixed, and making the whole mess laughably one-sided ensures the efforts of the other gender to try and sort things out are just seen as "defending their hegemony". From a more objective viewpoint, it's an incredible work of social engineering.

Of course, if you have morals, you can't take a more objective viewpoint- or can't keep it, at least- and you'll see the danger and work against it. But what old Santayana never seemed to realize is that those who do learn from history are doomed to watch everyone ELSE repeat it.

pissed_off_elbonian · 2023-02-28T19:24:33+00:00

Step 1: Find a problem (real or imagined) that affects women.

Step 2: Talk about the problem.

Step 3: Find a link (no matter how vague) to men.

Step 4: Talk about that link until it becomes impossible to talk about this problem any other way…

Step 5: Stretch this shit out to the point where men are at fault for everything.

Equal-End7695 · 2023-02-28T09:00:22+00:00

There's a ton of common ground, but everyone needs someone to blame. People love their hate, it fills a void.

Both sexes cause dead bedroom Both sexes can be abusive. Both sexes use kids as weapons.

I could go on and on. But the absolute most damaging action Both sexes are guilty of is using blanket statements without declaring it first. Any time the term "men" or "women" is used without first using, for example, the word "some" or "my experience," it unfairly categorizes an entire race.

People hate my mentality. They want to offend but not be offended. That's not how life works. My .02

klouted_pollo · 2023-02-28T14:02:31+00:00

They hate us but need us but claim they don’t

IllustriousSalt5696 · 2023-02-28T14:24:40+00:00

Look at the advertisers, thats the message they are trying to sell.

NeoNotNeo · 2023-02-28T22:01:22+00:00

Why do so many of these articles miss on one key fact. The risks are too high. The payoff not what it once was.

The price of orgasms are inflated.

Think of it as post Feminist Inflation

AbysmalDescent · 2023-02-28T17:22:30+00:00

"Men lacking relationship skills"

This isn't a problem of men not having relationship skills, because our current dating culture has nothing to do with relationship skills, nor is it even that focused on long term relationships. Good men have every necessary relationships skill to be a good partner. What they might lack are the skills to play the games that women expect them to play to win their interest, which have actually nothing to do with relationships. The ideal solution here shouldn't be to shame men into becoming better manipulators of women, but rather to address the one-sided way that women approach relationships. It should be up to women to seek out and value actual "relationship skills" in men that relate to good relationships, rather than putting so much emphasis on how well men play these games. It is up to women to re-evaluate their priorities, into something real or long-term focused, instead of responding to the men who just know how to play these games, whether they have the skills necessary for relationships or not. It shouldn't be up to men to learn these sexist and derogative scripts that women want them to read, but rather up to women to eliminate the expectations for such scripts in the first place.

Then there's the fact that women also often come into relationships completely lacking the skills for relationships. It's not a problem for them because the dating culture is so heavily focused on pleasing or making women the focus of desire, or because it's always presumed that women have these skills or don't need them because they are women, but the reality is that a lot of women make for horrible partners.

And what makes this entire argument against men all the more ridiculous is the omission that men learn and develop these relationship skills through relationships, much like women would. The main difference here, however, is that the barrier to entry with sex and relationships for men is significantly greater than it is for women, which also means that there would also be a barrier to entry for the very skills that men are supposedly lacking. Most women simply do not look to build relations with men, nor to learn to grow with men the way men would for women. The opportunities for development are freely given to women but not freely given to men. So, again, it comes down to women having to just acknowledge that privilege, or difference in power/opportunity that benefits them, and take some initiative.

Then there's certainly the factor of risk, and how culture has grown increasingly unsafe for men to try and/or fail with women. We live in a culture that labels men as predators, creeps and assholes for trying to approach women, and this poses a very real physical, social, legal and professional danger to men for approaching the wrong woman. You cannot fault men for being more careful, passive or attentive in an environment that is so hostile towards them, nor can you blame good men for trying to do the right thing by not approaching women. The message men are given on a daily basis, is that their attention and desire is not welcomed, so why would society also still expect men to impose themselves on women? It is up to women to create that safe space for men to approach them and to communicate that effectively. It should also be up to women to realize how this current cultural climate is affecting men, and how it empowers them to take the initiative themselves without any of the risks that men face.

"Men don't make the effort"

This one kind of blows my mind, considering that women's lack of effort in heterosexual relationships and dating is so blatantly massive and evident. Most women don't initiate, don't invest themselves, don't work to build attraction, don't plan dates and don't pay their way to be there. Most can't even be bothered to maintain a safe space for men to approach them, maintain a very basic conversation or get to know the men who make themselves available to them.

In fact, most of the "effort" that women put into dating seems to be focused on rejecting, playing or manipulating, which are far more destructive, impeding and non-constructive efforts. You can see this in online dating, where men are making most of the effort and where women are doing very little, yet still expecting more from men(certainly expecting far more than they are willing to do themselves). You can see this in bars/nightclubs, where men are making most of the effort and women just show up. You can see this in any other "non-dating" settings, where it is considered inappropriate for men to approach women but not the other way around; and where men would love to approach women but can't, while women could but choose not to.

"Men watch porn is a problem"

It's always funny how when these types of misandric pieces come out, that they always target men for watching porn. They never really address the fact that women do also watch porn and masturbate, or how when women do it, it is viewed as empowering and a celebration of their independence. They never really address how sex toys for women can be absolutely over the top, or how that might negatively effect women's libido's, their sexual performance, or how they approach men/dating.

I don't think watching porn could ever really feel the emotional, physical or social need that men have for intimacy, sex and relationships but, even if it did, why would that be a bad thing? Do women really need men to be miserable, sexually frustrated and desperate, in order for them to find and develop meaningful relationships with men? Wouldn't that, again, indicate a lack of effort and engagement from women? The vast majority of men want to be in relationships far more than they want to watch porn, which clearly indicates that porn is typically little more than a base substitute for opportunities that aren't available to those men. Or maybe men just watch porn because they enjoy sexuality in all forms, despite being heavily shamed for it because they are men.

You will also see these types of misandric pieces try to assert that porn watching is to blame for men having performance issues, even when that link is dubious at best and could certainly be caused by a great deal of other factors. But, even if we were to assume that there is an irrefutable link between men watching porn and having ED, then wouldn't this also imply that it could be addressed by simply cutting out porn within a relationship? It also seems like this would only really be a problem in situations where men are expected to perform on demand, in a casual setting, so why isn't the solution then to simply address that situation? Or, if watching porn was truly the only way these men could perform, then why wouldn't the idea of partners watching porn together be more normalized within a relationship? Why make male sexuality the problem, when there are certainly plenty of other factors involved, if not just to specifically attack and shame men?

It's very clear that the intent is to attack male sexuality when all other factors that could be contributing to male performance are simply dismissed. Maybe it has nothing to do with porn but everything to do with environmental factors, stress, insecurities, not feeling comfortable/safe, not feeling connected with their partner, not feeling that their partner values them or just using them or viewing them as an object. Maybe the problem is with women's sexist expectations and entitlements of heterosexual sex and dating. Maybe it's from women's apparent lack of effort when it comes to heterosexual sex and dating. Seems like men watching porn would never be an issue, if women just humanized men, or just allowed for a relationship to take it's course. Why is the goal always to attack porn, which may be the only outlet many men have, specifically because it is available to men? Why are these types of anti-porn pieces, virtually always, rather attacking male masturbation and "issues" that don't really seem to have anything to do with porn itself? At best, it's attacking a symptom of a bigger issue. At worse, it's attacking something that brings pleasure, sexual relief and some degree of independence to men. It is shaming men for something that women are cheered for, despite the fact that most women have the opportunities that men don't.

matrixislife · 2023-02-28T13:37:56+00:00

It's not all women who are coming up with this concept, it's not even most women who support it. They are falling for one of the easiest political traps around "your problems aren't your fault, they are the fault of THOSE PEOPLE, who are responsible for everything wrong with society." Scream and shout about it for a couple of hours, add some hand gestures but they probably don't need to add the mustache, and you have a very familiar situation.

Reacting as if it's the whole world against you is actually what these lunatics want. They want you to feel isolated and alone, and prone to fighting back or doing somenthing extreme as a response, because that feeds into their twisted rhetoric. By doing that you prove their point.

Imo, the best answer is to live well, when these nutters get into your face about this, tell them they are wrong and move on, they aren't worth your time. When someone throws "incel" at someone else, object to it using the arguments against abuse.

LosingMyFocus · 2023-02-28T19:14:54+00:00

Never again will I actively seek a relationship with someone who sees me as the problem of society.

I’d rather die alone.

RedToiletPoopPain · 2023-02-28T16:47:17+00:00

They say incel, but I think they mean volcel.

Pastakingfifth · 2023-02-28T14:25:51+00:00

Societies are not meant to support the common man. This is not a bug but a feature. Things are changing and becoming less competitive thankfully but the average man is supposed to be a slave worker, that is what benefits industrialized nations. The strong men either climb to the top of the system or branch out and create their own systems.

This model doesn't work for everyone but we are not becoming a socialist paradise anytime soon so empowering yourself individually is your best option and it works quite well.

Educational_Bet_6606 · 2023-02-28T11:57:13+00:00

Who cares, let's move on life. Remember only a century ago virginity was praised.

CutiePie0023 · 2023-02-28T13:14:40+00:00

Well said, OP. I just can’t believe how nowadays EVERYTHING is a man’s fault. Like wtf I would never think that way. These feminists are most likely the ones causing the sexless-ness because what guy would date one or have sex with one because they “hate all men” Lmao

Soda_BoBomb · 2023-03-01T01:09:53+00:00

It's so annoying how women will simultaneously shame men for supposedly only wanting sex (citation needed but never provided) and say that that puts them off.

Then they'll also rant about men not liking women with body counts in the multiple dozens and how they shouldn't be shamed for having lots of sex with lots of different men.

2023-03-01T04:58:21+00:00

Why does no one talk about the unrealistic expectations women have? Extreme high standards because she thinks she deserves better (only god knows why). Morden women & modern dating is just toxic and trash!! It is just funny how women blame men when they themselves have nothing to offer, other then sex!!

CM_4321 · 2023-02-28T11:20:28+00:00

Weak men create a easily to manipulate society.

Less beta males and feminist, more strong men and compassionate women.

That’s what society is missing.

Oh and the stupid pronoun and gender bullshit. That clearly isn’t helping.

Asriel-SIU · 2023-02-28T15:00:39+00:00

I agree with the sentiment, man, but you're torturing yourself, by reading this kind of shit magazine that no one except its devoted audience reads. It does not represent an opinion that is shared in the majority of society, by men and women. It's just a piece of garbage written by some person on the verge of unemployment hoping for easy buck.

Men and women in society do not complain about the other sex's presence, or lack thereof on the dating market. People only care about their small sphere of acquaintances. This, according to this article, is a societal problem. The dating market, people's expectations, and all that stuff has become a taboo subject. Want an example?

Every time the fact known as hypergamy (women dating across and high in status and revenue) is mentioned, women and feminist are going to react by thinking that you want to drop women back to their position as subservient to their husbands. That is because now women have overcome men in all educational fields and because their careers tend to become better on average than men, again on average. These 2 dynamics provoke the shrinking of "dateable men for women on the dating market". It's very slow, progressive (get it?), and diffuse (thus invisible, which brings me back to my 1st point). Then, no one sane is going to propose we dunk down on women to put men on a higher status again. It is just not true. It's just about admitting that the sexual revolution did not have only positive consequences, on both men and women, and that the current dating market is flawed. No one knows what the solution is. It's a complex problem after all.

FlashVirus · 2023-02-28T17:52:10+00:00

The other day I got into a really nasty argument on Facebook with a woman under a public thread with the original post concerning the rise of lonely, isolated men. She made a really frighteningly insane comment; it was something along the lines of, "lonely men are their own enemy. They're lonely because their personalities." I immediately pointed out how absolutely absurd this line of thinking was- there's people, men & women alike, who are lonely romantically & platonically (friendless) due to physical disability, mental illness, abusive relationships, trapped in loveless marriages, age, etc.. on what planet does she live on where one's own problems are always completely in their control?

She started firing back instantly, without even considering a word I said, just personally attacking me viciously. She called me an incel (I never said my marital status or anything) and said my personality is to blame for everything. She went on to claim I lived at home and proceeded to stalk my Facebook wall and my family's profile and then post about it on the thread. It was absolutely insane behavior. I blocked her immediately as I couldn't engage in that further but wow. The whole interaction left me honestly disturbed-it was a bizarre toxic energy I wasn't expecting to encounter. These people have zero empathy, hope of understanding, and are plain fucking nasty. Who does something like that? Who the hell raised a thing like that?

jokerfriend6 · 2023-02-28T15:06:37+00:00

Men must choose differently is a cop out. Men take many risks in becoming sexually involved, and there is too much expectations among women that men must provide a good life for women. I know this is not across the board for all women, many women want a loving relationship but only want the man to be able to be a partner, and not a pay check as well. It takes a lot and time to decipher this in a new relationship. Definitely, don't want to get trapped via sex too early.

rotco1 · 2023-02-28T18:12:37+00:00

You stay away from things , entities that do not serve you. You don't have to wage a war against them keep quiet band up and win in silence.

ruMenDugKenningthreW · 2023-02-28T18:32:39+00:00

What do you expect of an article that seems genuinely perplexed at the connection between "diminished libido" and "frequent porn use"?

Also, bonus points to its author for failing to operationalize what "consuming porn regularly" means. Was this self report data that failed to consider one person who uses every day and one who uses once a week may both call that "regular" use? Did actual uses per week get included in the breakdown, after which the researchers arbitrarily, and probably excitedly at their own genius, said "Yarp! There is be a regular regularity!" without further consideration?

Spirited-Road-4345 · 2023-02-28T18:41:43+00:00

Sex with the majority of women is like a family that works extra hours and saves up for something like the outrageous price of a theam park, but the only rides are the kind you can get on at any cheap carnival. So overrated, disappointing, so risky.

Scarce12 · 2023-02-28T19:03:23+00:00

That pew research data is shit. Doesn't investigate what women mean by a relationship.

The GSS data is shit.

There's decidedly not a lot of research going on that analyzes what women are doing sexually in the western world.

What's needed is a proper cohort analysis.

LeanderGrant · 2023-02-28T22:40:27+00:00

Society demands men to be nice guys and then mocks them for being kind and respectful. For a resource on healing narcissism and emotional trauma, I'd recommend my book:

Subtle Cruelties, Finding the balance between love and abuse.

Great post.

HannibalsProtege · 2023-02-28T22:43:43+00:00

"However, the pandemic disrupted the status quo in college-aged daters and accelerated women’s re-prioritization away from intimacy and toward academic, professional, and financial goals."

He means OnlyFans, predatory women with no skills and liberal art degrees turned to OF as a mean of income while men still went out, and earned their keep.

Women now had no means to date while men could watch porn if they needed to get off 🤷🏾‍♂️. Women took no accountability during this period, but men had to foot the bill. Again

"Even more concerning is a rise in psychogenic-related erectile dysfunction, delayed ejaculation, and diminished libido in men under 40 years old associated with frequent porn use."

Impossible dating standards, have shifted the focus from personality to the physical metric since the rise in dating apps -- all of which are implemented by women. Daily consumption of porn over a 4+ year period has shown to have this effect. Read that again, daily consumption, not intermittent use that varies user to user. But notice how the author doesn't include overstimulation from vibrators that the same research has shown with the rise of porn use among women. I smell a beta!

"Brief therapy or relational coaching can counteract avoidance and offer young men meaningful communication as well as emotional and sexual intimacy skills."

Shoulder the responsibility again upon men, but FAIL to include that women should net their fair share of rejection, and emotional vulnerability seeing as how the same group likes to belittle men who show emotional vulnerability.

Something that a beta will never tell you. Fuck this guy.

ChiangDisco · 2023-03-01T10:26:09+00:00

Fundental error of attribution if Ive ever seen it

Women are choosing the highest quality partners (and its their right to do so), but the point is if men were to all "just improve", the only thing that would happen is a new (higher) threshold and standard to meet would be created for the lowest men and they would need to "just improve" again. You see how this is a relative concept and therefore men as a whole cannot ever just improve because as all men improve the entire tide rises. Itd be like saying if pro track stars want to win more races, they just need to run faster...

We could get to the point where men were like 1,000x more pleasant, harder workers, and better in every way possible than women and we would still be in the exact same situation because women are comparing men to other men, not themselves.

Which leads me to the question, why is it always men who have to improve? Are we seriously just assuming women are much closer to being flawless. Seems like the women are wonderful effect to me.

In fact, I would actually go as far as to say that if men all at once adopted the exact same set of standards possessed by women, there would actually be more women "incels" than men.

OShaughnessy · 2023-02-28T13:01:06+00:00

"No one is coming to save you."

tl;dr Life sucks on the sidelines. Strap on your helmet, & get in the fucking game.

Aromatic_Ad5473 · 2023-02-28T15:04:06+00:00

The men vs women thing is getting out of hand. We can thrive together. We can succeed together. We can do it with each other, not in spite of

ERiC_693 · 2023-02-28T18:50:02+00:00

Psychology is filled with woke white females in their 20s/30s, as are most mental healthcare areas today.

Cant expect anything like evidence or scrutiny based studies from psychology anymore. It's what white females do, they turn every single field into a women's studies programme.

ShazBaz11 · 2023-02-28T12:48:09+00:00

Well said OP. I agree. Sick of the Men vs. Women BS in society.

WhereProgressIsMade · 2023-02-28T15:22:01+00:00

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Maxi-Spade · 2023-02-28T22:36:03+00:00

Men are not to blame! Burn that article, and let's have a party instead!

Let's put this to rest!

EVERYBODY WANTS SEX!

(Except celibate people who hate sex!)

EVERYONE WANTS TO BE LOVED! (Unless you love to be hated?)

There, it had to be said! Plus, all these nicknames like intels or shrimps whatever. I don't call anyone anything. [I spelled them wrong on purpose.] Sometimes I would spell Mormons as Morons.

What I care about is respect. That we can get along since everyone probably has more dirt on me anyway.

I talk too much. My ex-bf used to say I make his head big. Meaning I'm a handful since his English wasn't his first language.

Lonewolf_087 · 2023-03-03T04:08:49+00:00

Does anyone realize that sex isn't this thing that guys can have whenever they want? I realize there are ways a guy can have sex whenever but that doesn't even count. Everyone talks like guys can have sex whenever m. No, we can't and we rarely do. Unless you are in a committed relationship or you happen to be a 5 percenter, you just aren't going to have much sex.

onlysaysMMMRAAHW · 2023-02-28T12:00:52+00:00

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Character_Pirate_618 · 2023-02-28T16:20:41+00:00

It's far easier and way, way safer to stay single and beat off to porn. The fuck with living under women's and the state's Sword of Damocles. I'm a strong, empowered, brave and independent man that don't need no woman.

eye_of_gnon · 2023-02-28T17:51:34+00:00

will say again, western society absolves women of blame for everything

by nature women fear being blamed and judged, this is primal and instinctual. But like any other group they are not flawless and deserve some of the blame

The_Banana_Monk · 2023-02-28T21:51:33+00:00

I would disagree with the "men vs women is a new thing."

Historically in many religions and cultures men were seen as superior to women for many thousands of years and had the right to oppress/use them. What we are seeing today is over correction for that where today's modern boys are being punished for the sins of their ancestors. Instead of creating a future where everyone lives in harmony.

habbo311 · 2023-07-24T23:34:32+00:00

Legalize prostitution

DelicateIrrelevant · 2023-02-28T12:48:36+00:00

I feel like it isn't really about men being sexless, but that they have completely unrealistic expectations for the attractiveness of the women that are their realistic prospects. My brother is an incel because he's got a huge chip on his shoulder about the girls he wants to sleep with are uninterested in him, while a heavier but really fun chick basically has thrown herself at him. It doesn't even register in his mind that he's not really an incel, but just unrealistic about which women he can attract.

Suntand_Success_736 · 2023-02-28T20:03:26+00:00

It's funny because the 1900's were all about how women were the problem, which now has become a problem. Meanwhile it's always been a lack of communication and willingness to understand the other side that's driven so many wedges between us.

Why are men's rights a thing if men perpetrate more crimes than women? It's because men also are suffering and our pain isn't any less important. It's because the men perpetrating those crimes have been treated badly in life and need to know what a healthy life is, and incarcerating them isn't the answer. Taking away their lives, families, hopes, and dreams is not going to make women have any better life.

Like you said, it's not about equal treatment, but about equal dignity.

parahacker · 2023-02-28T11:59:00+00:00

whoooooo EEEE

fire

Maxi-Spade · 2023-02-28T23:06:38+00:00

Wow, look at this.

He's got 1 wife and 7 girlfriends He better be rich, or they will soon leave him. Oh, but his wife doesn't mind at all. But I certainly wouldn't put up with it! https://youtu.be/8saU6LaMwQU

Then there's cougars Woman 48 Guy 25 https://youtu.be/qOiJWDv4Ix4

Nigerian man has 6 pregnant wives Yeah we know what you're up to. https://youtu.be/YF4oFMF3wVQ

ColorMePoorly · 2023-02-28T15:16:35+00:00

I see there's a lot of hurt in this post. I'd like to address it a bit, but my comment is good for pretty much all comments on this post, so I'll just start a new comment. I don't know of anyone will see this.

I empathize with you, I really do. A lot of things suck in this life. I'm a woman, and I have my own problems, my society's problem, my human problems, and I can empathize with men's problems even if I don't have them. You're right about a lot of these problems, but I think, the degree and intensity of these should be attributed to online communities. It may seem like a cop out or whatever, but I truly believe it. Your problems are intensified on the internet. In real life, with real interactions with people, these problems just don't pop up as often.

I honestly think humans have some good intentions, some bad tendencies, and internet has never brought up the best in ourselves. What we collectively need more of, is human interaction and empathy. I often lurk men's online spaces because as a cis woman I just can't know about your experience and empathize without listening to your rants and stories. Reading on it, and listening to my friends about their problems, allow me to be more empathetic.

As for my own problems, sure I rant sometimes, or I try to find comfort and understanding in my relationships, or I try to work towards solutions, but most of all I try not to fall down the rabbit whole of internet communities because it only tends to make me more paranoid and thinking in absolute. And I try to stay away from that because if I know one thing, is that there's really not that much absolute in this world.

Anyway, take from that as you will, and thank you for reading through this novel if you did !

Claudius-Germanicus · 2023-02-28T17:48:11+00:00

No bitches?? 👀

darthjory · 2023-02-28T21:38:33+00:00

What do you guys think the reason for sexless men is? Just curious.

BetterStartNow1 · 2023-02-28T10:10:11+00:00

So you can't find a partner and the article says its your fault and you're upset? It is your fault. You either aren't trying enough or something about you is off-putting the women you're going for. It works the opposite way too. I don't care who an article blames. You are responsible for you and it's up to you to find a partner.

STylerMLmusic · 2023-02-28T20:21:21+00:00

This post is the type of nonsense that gives this subreddit a bad name.

antifeminist3 · 2023-02-28T15:42:24+00:00

This is based on older data that is still being passed around. A psychologist has published more recent data. Women are more likely to be sexless for 1-4 years and it is roughly the same for longer periods:

How Many Sexual Partners Did Men and Women Have in 2021?

omgbadmofo · 2023-02-28T16:30:49+00:00

Side note, the now actual dated age of modern man is 300 thousand years. They have found a new jawbone and it's changed the age bracket.

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2017/jun/07/oldest-homo-sapiens-bones-ever-found-shake-foundations-of-the-human-story?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16776017688369&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fscience%2F2017%2Fjun%2F07%2Foldest-homo-sapiens-bones-ever-found-shake-foundations-of-the-human-story

Maxi-Spade · 2023-02-28T23:10:11+00:00

Do men go to charm school?

Charm classes for men have popped up all over the place for guys who want to improve their social skills and dating life. With so many options it can be tough to figure out exactly which schools deliver the most value.

https://theartofcharm.com/art-of-dating/what-to-look-for-in-a-charm-school-for-men-instruction-practice-and-making-it-stick/#:~:text=Charm%20classes%20for%20men%20have,schools%20deliver%20the%20most%20value.

Don't knock a charm school. My mom made me go to one. It worked. It helped me a bit.

Maxi-Spade · 2023-02-28T23:51:01+00:00

Divided Brain Male & Female Date https://youtu.be/JuyB7NO0EYY

Men versus Women Showering https://youtu.be/Ia5NA6fqFfE

I think it could be the other way around, too, in the shower scene. He could be the neat freak, and she can be the slob

lifesuckswannadie · 2023-03-01T20:55:14+00:00

This is so ridiculous. For once look at what women are doing to make it this way

Maxi-Spade · 2023-03-02T06:25:56+00:00

You can't do away with that narcissistic demon. It's there because people feed it.

Go on, quora, it doesn't get better. Just read what people post. I asked people how many are healing from this?

About 2 people came forward. Most of it is people who go in circles and don't break free from its clutches.

You have to break away from narcissistic people. The problems don't go away. There's only one solution I have, but most people won't listen anyway.

Narcissistic people are everywhere they are on chatlines, in every profession out there that seek the lime light. People have bits and pieces of it.

We are dealing with people's egos every day. There will be narcissistic, sociopaths, psychopaths, etc.

What is a dark triad personality?

The Dark Triad personality traits – narcissism, psychopathy and Machiavellianism – can be toxic and damaging in the workplace. But be aware that someone exhibiting these traits may initially be a high achiever and potentially charming, conscientious, and achievement-oriented.

https://www.mindtools.com/au5148p/understanding-the-dark-triad

I wanted to become a psychologist and ended up training for something else that wasn't useful. Money and grades were the other issues. I don't have the money or the energy for it. I'll stay amateur.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/the-second-noble-truth/202106/are-there-really-so-many-narcissists%3famp

harmonica2 · 2023-03-03T03:22:59+00:00

If a lot of men are sexless nowadays what I don't understand is, why is that in this day and age where women are easier than ever because of the 'free love movement'? It is said that men are sexless today compared to the old days, but in the old days women were harder to get into bed compared to now, so why are men more sexless after the free love movement?

Plus men on reddit have mentioned how womens' 'body count' is higher than ever nowadays compared to before, but if that's true, then why is there so much sexlessness?

Maxi-Spade · 2023-03-08T15:56:41+00:00

There is a spiritual side to all of this!

Jezebel is destroying both men and women!

Title	Men blamed for being sexless. Again.
Author	rickiye
Upvotes	922
Comments	257
Date	February 28, 2023 8:23 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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