"If you’re a man who thinks that there’s a “War on Men,” you probably deserve to get beaten by the women." - from Vice's article

ibm2431 · 2012-11-26T23:46:39+00:00

Harry's misandric tone betrays him before the end of his second paragraph:

go to complain about getting raped by women

"Complain" about getting raped? Is rape some sort of gift horse that men aren't supposed to look in the mouth?

a discussion ... about how getting beaten up is worse than being threatened with rape

Is Cheadle trying to say that the unrealized threat of rape is worse than getting the bloody hell beat out of you? I thought it was uncouth to complain about being raped, let alone the threat of it?

Oh, I'm sorry. That only applies if you're being raped by a woman. Men shouldn't complain about being raped by women because they obviously wanted it. The fact that rape is defined by lack of consent is totally irrelevant - any guy would just love to be raped and shouldn't complain! Talk about rape culture and blaming the victim.

You also have this in the last paragraph:

But that just shows how worthless men are.

Also note: one of the tags for the article is "worthless men".

So far we have: men shouldn't complain about being raped, a woman being not-raped is worse than a man being beaten within an inch of his life, and that men are worthless.

And if you think these are examples of an alarmingly increasing trend of men being treated as socially acceptable targets of violence? You deserve to be beaten, too.

...But only if you're a man who believes it, of course. It's still not okay to beat women.

I swear, it's almost as if Cheadle is trying to show people that this sort of misandric trash is actually real by demonstrating it himself. We should thank him for proving our point.

ibm2431 · 2012-11-26T23:56:38+00:00

Article screenshot: http://imgur.com/XXHYp

Watermelon_Salesman · 2012-11-27T00:31:26+00:00

I've personally met several people who write or wrote for Vice. Most were some of the most stupid, self-righteous people I've met. It's usually hipsters who believe pop culture is synonym to intellectual erudition.

It's a common flaw in most journalists today: they believe that the fact they write for a popular publication entitles them to write anything they feel like, even though they obviously lack any scientific or academic background for it. Research? Fuck that! What matters is what's inside my head, because I'm a fucking big deal! I'm the press!

2012-11-27T01:47:51+00:00

'If you're a woman who thinks there's a "War on Women", you probably deserve to be beaten by men.' -- Vice

What a quality article. I can taste the balance and equality from here.

insaneHoshi · 2012-11-27T01:23:26+00:00

This has to be view bait

ErasmusMRA · 2012-11-26T23:14:59+00:00

If you want to see what this kind of thinking looks like, take a dip into the river of the Men’s Rights section of Reddit

Thanks to Harry Cheadle for the publicity. Is Vice a popular paper/website?

loose-dendrite · 2012-11-27T05:00:20+00:00

"... predominantly white, predominantly rich"

What.

I also thought that the headline was enough: "YOU’RE A PUSSY IF YOU THINK THERE’S A WAR ON MEN"

Isn't the "YOUR'RE A PUSSY" part misogynistic in that it uses the female organ in a derogatory manor?

rebuildingMyself · 2012-11-27T06:32:46+00:00

Said a million times before but:

They ignore you
They laugh at you
They fight you
You win

Didn't think we would hit number 3 so quickly.

royboh · 2012-11-27T07:16:40+00:00

That Fox opinion piece 'The War on Men' WAS abhorrent...

tl;dr of it; Women are dumb and trying to be smart is pointless, men aren't personally responsible for their personal shortcomings, women are, and women are weaklings that have to be coddled by men. She then goes on to explain how gender roles best fit for 19th century would be an ideal.

I don't know her, but I say with confidence that Suzanne Venker is a horrible person to deal with.

onetenth · 2012-11-27T06:35:21+00:00

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harryballsagna · 2012-11-27T03:15:09+00:00

The funniest thing about "articles" such as this one is that they do in fact prove that there is indeed a war on men.

Disillusi0n · 2012-11-27T00:15:07+00:00

Here's a vid about the author himself.

Sorry bro. You've got no business calling anyone else a pussy.

rebuildingMyself · 2012-11-27T04:56:23+00:00

Perhaps this is the most simple-minded rebuttal of the article, but I think it deserves to be stated.

War is very much a war on men.

That is all.

girlwriteswhat · 2012-11-26T23:29:29+00:00

So much feminist projection in one article.

Kirkayak · 2012-11-27T00:49:06+00:00

"Man up" means to consider oneself a means to someone else's end, taking no thought to one's own well being.

One may as well say "robot up".

blueoak9 · 2012-11-27T00:08:20+00:00

That article is a combination of macho chest-thumping and moral posturing. Isn't this what the PUAs call "peacocking"?

built_to_elvis · 2012-11-27T00:26:54+00:00

Why wouldn’t you want to have a girlfriend or wife every bit as driven as you?

Does anyone here disagree with this? I mean does anyone here not want a woman who shares your same interests and viewpoints?

DavidNatan · 2012-11-27T09:56:09+00:00

He has an article praising Atheism+. Need not say any more.

loose-dendrite · 2012-11-27T02:22:12+00:00

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Amunium · 2012-11-27T06:26:50+00:00

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Zuke88 · 2012-11-27T03:45:36+00:00

they're kinda proving our point with that statement, isn't it?

trecol · 2012-11-27T00:41:20+00:00

The hell is this, Cosmo Lite?

C0CKPUNCHER · 2012-11-27T07:49:57+00:00

Plenty of men do get beaten by women, more than not, if you include boys getting hit by women or girls.

Jimm607 · 2012-11-27T10:27:34+00:00

If you’re a man who thinks that there’s a “War on Men,” you probably deserve to get beaten by the women.

Nobody minds if i switch this around do they?

"If you're a woman who thinks that there's a "War on Women," you probably deserve to get beaten by the men"

Hm. Yeah, that doesn't sound very nice does it?

But the part that gets me most is that the article even existing proves that feminism is actually having a damaging affect on male rights, simply being raised into a generation bombarded by feminism with no mainstream counterbalance, men are being raised to the point where they will blindly fight against their own rights.

ThePigman · 2012-11-27T01:21:03+00:00

Meh, some loser who couldnt get a job at Gawker.

jamespotta · 2012-11-26T23:48:26+00:00

The author of that article is really angry. Why?

2012-11-27T04:18:41+00:00

One phrase sums it all up when it comes to people like this:

"Haters gonna hate."

Disillusi0n · 2012-11-27T04:51:43+00:00

The comments at the end of the shit contain some people who aren't convinced by the aforementioned shit. A little faith in humanity is being restored.

Coffeebeanfacespoon · 2012-11-27T11:45:12+00:00

Sweet jesus. Some people are so adamant in their outlook that they voluntarily remain ignorant of the hateful and hypocritical things they are saying. Sadly, it is these loud mouth ignoramuses that get the most attention and gather a large following of (fellow) single track minded morons.

Then this horde of morons vote for moronic leaders who make painfully illogical laws and we are all caught in a void of stupidity.

ExpendableOne · 2012-11-27T14:11:06+00:00

lol, what? None of that made any kind of sense. Do these people even bother to fact check?

Edit: oh, he/she is a SRS supporter. That explains everything.

shitsfuckedupalot · 2012-11-27T06:41:48+00:00

My biggest qualm with the article is where he says that women, not men, want not attachment hookups, and this is somehow proof of evidence against the fact that men can have sex at a hello. That really seems like a pretty skewed view among many.

radrler · 2012-11-27T07:00:56+00:00

Threats of violence are literally the first (and often only) argument against the MRM. This isn't indicative of its propriety (since groups like WBC also provoke violence), but speaks volumes of the usual critic's bigotry.
edit: MTM -> MRM. Freudian slip to ATM?

Lachtan · 2012-11-27T07:15:25+00:00

What an asshole

https://twitter.com/HCheadle/status/273215489507995650

jtj-H · 2012-11-27T08:47:05+00:00

Does this cunt not know anything i thought we had a pretty good understanding here that Suzzanne Venker is not ally of mens rights

She proclaims in but she only wants it for herself... example Protectionism

strangersadvice · 2012-11-27T12:20:42+00:00

If you are a man who has never lost a child to a divorce, you don't realize that there is a war on men... and it is happening in the courts.

the_most_cleavers · 2012-11-27T12:45:30+00:00

Criticize flaws of stereotypical (i.e. incorrect) mens rights narrative

and then

It’s pretty simple—decades ago, lazy men didn’t have to worry about talented women taking their jobs because they were largely relegated to being housewives or teachers or nurses. Now that women can dictate the terms of relationships and don’t need to latch onto a man as soon as possible, they aren’t willing to start pumping out babies and taking care of a household the way some guys would like. Boo-fucking-hoo. Cry me a river.

....Does this guy have any sense of self-awareness?

2012-11-27T02:20:20+00:00

Dear Harry,

Nebbish white knighting is no way to score the ladies.

Signed, Cpt. Obvious

2012-11-27T03:11:31+00:00

the whole "war" thing does get thrown around a bit much for my liking, with this issue and many others. It is like any group of people who have common grievances among them and unite to seek resolution are suddenly in an all out murder-fest now according to all these sensationally blog sites. I guess they say stuff like this to get readers, I wish people had more integrity and just let the facts be the facts, even if they were a little boring.

DoctorWhom717 · 2012-11-27T07:16:13+00:00

Hahahahaha! As if I fucking cared what Vice thought.

BalllsackTBaghard · 2012-11-27T12:31:07+00:00

Maybe he is one of us and knows the works. This is some controversial publicity and it will get people interested. This is some clever reverse psychology thing going on, I think.

mcmuggins · 2012-11-27T14:10:58+00:00

I guess we can personally thank Harry for helping our cause.

2012-11-27T14:30:20+00:00

What respectable article discusses forum posts by random people on the internet as content?

Vice must be a low brow, internet only, no readers type magazine...right?

2012-11-27T02:48:12+00:00

Vice is full of neck-bearded hipsters with a "too cool for skool" attitude that likes to send fat people to exotic locales to report on the nothing.

Lohengren · 2012-11-27T06:26:48+00:00

oh god some of those comments are hurting my brain.

CNITB4 · 2012-11-27T11:09:55+00:00

Either A: Me doth thinks he protests too much, or B: Dude doesn't just look like a lady, he is one! This article is written by someone looking for attention. And it looks like this "Nancy Grace" just got it.

Jazzeki · 2012-11-27T11:17:25+00:00

i'm not gonna waste my time reading the crap article just to get mad over it but assuming the quote that is the headline here isn't take massively out of context he might have a slight point.

then again i have never heard anyone claim there's a "war on men" either. just a system that currently don't care and intrest groups that fight them for personal gain.

the same argument should be apllied to women though. and i have heard about the "war on women".

actanonverba8 · 2012-11-27T08:56:18+00:00

Extra! Extra! Pathetic mangina writes article to get pats on head from females.

Koalachan · 2012-11-27T05:28:06+00:00

predominantly rich young men

Any of you rich? If you are, how did you become rich? Was it given to you, or did you go out into the world and earn it?

cuteman · 2012-11-27T01:57:10+00:00

I'm not sure what vice is like today, but previously it was mostly hipster type, hard drug, grunge skater surfer type articles for shock value. Like a week in South America trying every drug imaginable. They also had a lot of soft core type nude pictures in many of the older (years ago) issues. Their target audience didn't seem to be women or feminists, and I wouldn't put it past them to write an article like this as satire.

donttouchthatscabies · 2012-11-27T17:04:42+00:00

what the fuck is vice?!? It sure as hell is not sound. I hunt bears with a bow and if someone told me i was gonna be rape i would watch my back. But if i knew i was gonna be beaten to death, i would be camping near a police station making sure it didnt happen. There is nothing manly about this article at all

2012-11-27T03:02:43+00:00

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OztinL · 2012-11-27T14:48:26+00:00

Well fuck. I actually enjoy Vice documentaries.

jtj-H · 2012-11-27T08:44:42+00:00

When the fuck have we ever said Feminism is Harmful to men

Feminism = Equal right to women at this current time both are equal in certain places and Unequal in others... and in some cases men have privilege and in others Women have the privilege Mens rights is Feminist = just for the Other Gender

insomattack · 2012-11-28T20:30:36+00:00

About time a man wasn't so threatened by strong women. Refreshing. Seattle born!

buster2209 · 2012-11-27T00:25:26+00:00

Bwahahaha! Remove affirmative action, VAWA, etc, then lets lets how well they compete with men

Idiots...

2012-11-27T04:51:41+00:00

Although I don't agree with his self-righteous tone or his assumption that all male rights groups are illegitimate and childish, I do agree that this subreddit is basically a negaSRS complainathon.

girl_giant · 2012-11-26T23:28:07+00:00

As I was reading the first paragraph, I was thinking, "Gods, this guy must have visited MensRights ..."

LaFamilia · 2012-11-27T13:36:16+00:00

How about we stop talking about the quality of their documentaries and start talking about our course of action? I think polite e mails should ensue.

Title	"If you’re a man who thinks that there’s a “War on Men,” you probably deserve to get beaten by the women." - from Vice's article
Author	beyonsense
Upvotes	527
Comments	270
Date	November 26, 2012 11:04 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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