Have women become more sexist over time?

Bekiala · 2022-03-06T22:38:45+00:00

As always, we gotta define our terms.

Sexism is not the same as misandry/misogyny. Or...are they? Is there any point in making a distinction anymore?

In any case, I believe the number of openly misandrist women is definitely on the rise. In the same way people are more likely to talk back to, criticize, maybe even outright resent their parents once they're no longer reliant on them.

Willow-girl · 2022-03-07T02:23:26+00:00

They're not "more" sexist; they're just able to express it openly.

parasitesdisgustme · 2022-03-07T00:49:21+00:00

Online can exacerbate extremes

Paliant · 2022-03-06T23:45:01+00:00

Hard to say. What I will say is it is much more socially acceptable for women to be sexist to men than vice versa today.

Fearfactoryent · 2022-03-06T23:23:33+00:00

I’m a straight woman and I 1000000% think they have. So many women I know are downright horrible about men.

TheRedPillRipper · 2022-03-06T22:51:57+00:00

a lot of women are just very free

This is the key. It’s also a good thing. Just because the extremes get the most attention, doesn’t negate the majority. Women aren’t more sexist. It’s just the more divisive extremes, often overshadow the more reasonable majority.

Godspeed and good luck!

Exciting_Win3650 · 2022-03-07T09:56:18+00:00

Yeh. Western women tend to be extremeley narcisistic, they are very sexist and also believe conspiracy theories.

learn2earn89 · 2022-03-06T22:28:09+00:00

I think so. There’s a lot of resentment from the past. For example, my aunts (now in their 60s and 70s) were forced to marry otherwise they’d be chastised and they weren’t allowed to go to school.

Their husbands repeatedly cheated on them. Some of them beat them.

The daughters of these women are very resentful. The appropriate reaction would be to learn from those mistakes. However, some of us feel anger for those women who were treated like shit in the past.

GGMcThroway · 2022-03-07T03:47:25+00:00

I think they're becoming more open about it. The sexism itself is lessening over time.

caption291 · 2022-03-07T06:08:53+00:00

I don't think women have become more sexist over time. We just allowed women more freedom and they showed that if they had been physically stronger than men, men wouldn't have been fighting for their right to vote, they would have been fighting for their right to exist.

Puzzleheaded-Lab-165 · 2022-03-07T02:01:12+00:00

I just avoid toxic women. A good friend said something sexist and I didn’t talk to her for over two years. I decided to give her another chance and we have been together for over five years. Two years waited because of an Ill spoken word. Some of you ladies are single because of your anger towards men.

Banhappyloser · 2022-03-06T22:43:46+00:00

Women want the badboys, get treated like garbage and take it out on the non-badboys.

Jonny2266 · 2022-03-07T06:53:53+00:00

Not really, you probably just hear it more because of social media. A lot more women are becoming more feminist though and there are certain issues affecting men particularly that are largely overlooked, but I don't even think those things are as bad as they may have been before.

logiauser · 2022-03-06T22:33:06+00:00

It’s a circle of hatred. Women pick the absolute worst men they can find, goes predictably bad, their daughters see this and assume their mum is a complete victim and men are trash.

DannyBOI_LE · 2022-03-06T23:25:39+00:00

As a man my personal opinion is modern women generally and without much care label most things men have to say about female behavior as misogynistic at the blink of the eye while there is absolutely no questioning the rampant misandry that flies for equality or women’s lib. The double standard has become so prevalent and toxic that men risk loosing the jobs and reputation at the smallest allegation of misogyny or abuse.

qclady · 2022-03-06T23:04:26+00:00

I don’t think so. Previous generations of men feigned ignorance or refused to learn when it came to childcare and domestic issues. Women viewed their partners as domestically incompetent and requiring near parenting and openly discussed how helpless they were.

Today’s man changes diapers, actively parents, can wash his own clothing, and prepare his own food. We don’t see them as incompetent.

Are women annoyed at dick pics and thirsty men? Absolutely. However, most women see most men as competent these days.

Melencholywonk · 2022-03-06T22:29:27+00:00

Men and woman will always be sexist against each other. That's just the way it is. It's the "us vs them" thought train. Tribalism will always rule humanity.

2022-03-07T03:45:21+00:00

I don't think so.

They are just more vocal because they have been empowered to be.

There are no consequences for being a dogshit piece of trash woman towards men, you get celebrated and not cancelled.

SecretPepeMaster · 2022-03-06T22:42:56+00:00

I can see statements like "We as a women had it rough" and "You know how it is with men" and im not going to mention "patriarchy" narratives.
But does that mean they have became more sexist? No i dont think so, its the misandrist intellectual women (look TED talks) hell-bent on making normal women their mouthpieces.

So after they change their listeners mindset to blaming men at all times, they can also push literally anything under this flag. "Women vs Men" worldview doesnt benefit anyone, except egos of those, who menage to plant this mindset.

42nanaimobars · 2022-03-06T22:57:41+00:00

I think people are being pushed to the extremes at either end in America.

My community seems fine. I live in Canada by the way.

BadWrath · 2022-03-07T14:15:55+00:00

Yes, but to their detriment. Whole lot of cognitive dissonance in the mind of a woman who is hypergamous but doesn’t want to submit to a man, thinks she’s equal to a man, or hates men.

There’s this idea that a rich, tall, buff, brute to men but teddy bear to women, is supposed to approach them and submit himself to her desires whilst being man enough to take control… whole lot of fuck-shit there but I’ll let them sort that out. The quintessence of naïveté.

HazyMemory7 · 2022-03-07T18:39:22+00:00

100%. Modern day feminism is not so thinly veiled female superiority.

SuperSaiyanAssHair · 2022-03-06T22:58:16+00:00

I think so. Women as a whole don’t really need men anymore so they don’t have to pretend to like them if they don’t.

2022-03-06T22:33:35+00:00

honestly yes, a lot of femcel posts who adopted the traits of ''toxic masculinity'' the exact annoying shit men do but done by women

Complex-Glass-8539 · 2022-03-07T00:47:18+00:00

Well, yes, undoubtedly. I think both young men and women overall have become more sexist….it’s both ways amongst women as well.

One of the more interesting ways though, In my experience, the most overtly sexist group of people I’ve ever been around is older (40+), professionally successful, usually attractive women…..those women fucking think most women are stupid, weak, and the most entitled people ever and I’ve heard some crazy shit from these women around things from rape, to wages, to abuse.

I’m in finance and my business partner who I spend a lot of time with is in this group, we travel around our territory and meet with brokers and business owners, when those people are women and we get a couple of Old Fashions in, this rhetoric comes out regularly between them like it’s something all women of that group talk about, like the weather.

shidfardcummer · 2022-03-06T23:36:09+00:00

Maybe the more women gain the freedom to express themselves, the more they will express themselves honestly. I agree with a lot of women who say things about men being shitty. Sometimes it's just ridiculous, sure, but most of the time, women's "sexism" is just pointing out how obviously shitty men can be towards women in particular. I never knew until fairly recently on my life how much bullshit women have to put up with from men, especially random men they don't know. When it's random men that you don't know who are harassing you all the time, generalizations about men probably come pretty easily to you, which is easily understandable to me.

As a man, I understand a lot of the frustration that women express towards men, and it really isn't shocking at all to me that this expression of frustration turns into misandry for some women. Honestly, it's agreeable to me most of the time. Desperate and/or aggressive creeps are fucking everywhere, and I often generalize men in this way too because I see it so much in a lot of the male dominated areas of life that I frequent as a man, like working construction for example. These types of men are prevalent everywhere I go, and forget about online. The patheticism is actually unbelievable sometimes, and I couldn't imagine all these dudes wanting to fuck me hahaha holy shit, I'd probably kill one

peachycreaam · 2022-03-07T05:08:13+00:00

that’s misandry. But I do see a lot of ageist, sexist comments from young women towards other women which is weird to me coming from the most “woke” generation.

2022-03-07T09:44:29+00:00

Yes. It's pretty much a given considering that society has spent the last few decades telling them they are the superior sex. Once it flips -- and it WILL flip once IdPol is no longer needed to distract from class -- it won't take more than a decade before men start getting more sexist towards women. The future isn't female, it's misogynist.

demalteb · 2022-03-07T12:59:42+00:00

In short, no.

I was born in the 1970s. Discussions about what men are like, what women are like, what Americans or Japanese or that skin color or other are like, were completely normal, part of polite dinner conversation. It was often tongue-in-cheek, "yeah men can't cook and women can't park the car, lol", often very amicable. There was a huge tolerance for what would now be decried as -isms or -phobias.

Which, to be clear, I don't condone in general, because it did enable actual bigotry; but now we're at a point where even the friendliest mockery is often equated to genocide. And every group seems to look out only for their own - who that is, is determined by uncontrollable factors like skin color, and how well one toes the line.

It's a giant cesspool of identity politics and moralism. It is illiberal and makes social interactions unpleasant.

But it's not limited to any one particular group.

jgainit · 2022-03-08T08:58:24+00:00

I was with a girl I was dating and we were walking through a Barnes and Noble, and one of the highlighted books was called "How To Date Men When You Hate Men," and she pretty openly intrigued by it/sympathetic.

luigitrumpsmario · 2022-03-08T22:51:48+00:00

Read a post the other day about, quote, "I don't hate men. I FEAR them." And I think that's a huge deal here. Most of the 'sexism' from women onto men isn't just pure bitterness like I see from the other way around. It's, hi, I'm afraid for my life/wellbeing/self image/reputation.

There is also a difference in general between bigotry/prejudice and the -isms (sexism, racism, etc). The latter always includes the power imbalance between a minority and majority group. Women can definitely look down on men, but actual sexism towards them isn't really the proper definition.

TheFearlessBoi · 2022-03-06T22:35:42+00:00

Women are becoming extremely sexist nowadays.

2022-03-06T22:43:08+00:00

Yeah and they perpetuate "toxic masculinity" even more than men do.

iwasneverherehaha · 2022-03-06T23:03:25+00:00

Yes they have

I see men regularly ridiculed and abused by women in everyday life and the media.

The difference is no one gives a hoot about men

kissmetilyouredrunk · 2022-03-06T23:36:53+00:00

Women have always talked this way and worse. Now you guys spend all day on Twitter so you're exposed to it for the first time

KikiYuyu · 2022-03-07T02:24:21+00:00

Definitely, at least outwardly. Most SJW stuff is a big overcorrection of past wrongs. People have become convinced putting men down is in and of itself lifting up women.

prettymuchredpilled · 2022-03-07T04:10:03+00:00

Yes. Sexism against average (or worse) men is normalized in society and even on the rise.

gerrta_hard · 2022-03-07T09:40:38+00:00

Biology is sexist
those differences exist, regardless of prevailing culture
over time, culture has demanded men ignore sexual dimorphism
at the same time, women enjoy the double standard of calling men sexist and making similar statements themselves

-> you think women have become more sexist. It just looks that way because one side of the isle has been told they can no longer discuss objective reality while the other can pick either extreme however it suits them

Hjelmert · 2022-03-07T01:39:28+00:00

Yes, you can see this plain as day with the rise of r/FemaleDatingStrategy which openly talks about raping men and even raping teenage boys and recording it to be able to view for pleasure (but it's not about misandry guise we swear).

CFinCanada · 2022-03-06T23:18:09+00:00

No, women just have a voice now to talk about domestic violence and to counter the rampant misogyny that characterizes much of male culture and always has.

FUPA_CREASE · 2022-03-07T06:10:28+00:00

Are men getting acid thrown in their faces for rejecting women?
Are men getting their feet hobbled and the crippled stumps are eroticized by women?
Are men being accused of witchcraft and sexually tortured or burned on the regular?
Are minor boys being sold into marriage to elderly women?
Are men being captured and sold into harems?
Are men routinely kidnapped and forced into marriage by their captors?
Are men being denied education because its seen as a hindrance to their marriageability?
Are men forced to give up their bodily autonomy on argument that they must use their organs to facilitate life?
Are large groups of men facing disease from lack of sun due to being forced to cover their entire bodies lest they create lust in women?

These are things that routinely happened to women in recent history, and some still occur in some regions. I would argue what some men see as "sexism" is really boundary setting by women that has been done in reaction to thousands of years of abuse.

Why the boundary setting now? It has been in development for a long time - when some women got the pill they no longer were FORCED into marriage if they wanted to have sex so that any resulting pregnancy would be born into wedlock. When the unions were destroyed and women were forced into the work place to help the wages of their husbands, they could demand he now help in the home since she did as much work as he did, and if he refused, she had the economic ability to leave him once their children were grown. We could go down a list of such developments. A big one is: women were told that the bad behavior of men was NOT systematic, but something only they suffered because they weren't good enough to elicit good treatment. But the internet helped rip the mask off that lie - MANY women realized, via talking with one another about the abuse they survived, that this was a systematic problem and have developed even stronger boundaries in response to.

reLincolnX · 2022-03-06T23:23:52+00:00

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1Here4Bach · 2022-03-07T00:17:22+00:00

Yes and not without reason

sarkington · 2022-03-06T23:32:53+00:00

No, we have not

Masters are just always surprised that their slaves and servants have opinions, especially ones that contradict theirs

sleuthoftrades1 · 2022-03-06T23:10:43+00:00

Women have always been sexist. The "patriarchy" trained them to be nice and domesticated them. Without that, women are more open with their sexism. However, they are becoming even more sexist than normal due to the current zeitgeist of "women are wonderful" and "men suck".

wtknight · 2022-03-07T00:56:30+00:00

I think that, unlike men, women have become more critical of men because online media have given them a medium to air grievances about men.

On the other hand, I do think that women are less likely to generalize "all men" like men are with women. Women seem to realize easier that not all men are the same. Hence, if sexism is defined as generalization of an entire group, I don't think that women are any more sexist than before.

2022-03-06T22:34:42+00:00

poopiedoodie710 · 2022-03-06T23:41:11+00:00

Yes and they will cherry-pick patriarchy theory to justify their hatred of men. It’s mostly a bunch of women with past trauma who use their misandry as an outlet, but they really just need therapy.

Classic_Head3437 · 2022-03-07T02:06:43+00:00

No, they complain about the same things they always have. Guys just bitch and moan about it more.

Opening-Desk · 2022-03-07T00:39:33+00:00

And MGTOW is still growing by the day...

2022-03-07T00:51:46+00:00

Yes. I agree a lot of woman don’t want accountability. Or just have a ton of excuses for why they fail, none of which have to do with them.

Kaisha001 · 2022-03-07T02:30:03+00:00

I think it peaked in 2010-2015, and feminism (and hence a lot of female sexism) is now on a downward trend.

notarmani · 2022-03-07T04:09:22+00:00

if we are defining women having sexism towards men as them being more misandristic, then most definitely.

marihikari · 2022-03-07T02:45:43+00:00

I think it's possible due to available platforms for those who are sexist to express their views and influence other women...

PlayfulLawyer · 2022-03-07T02:56:36+00:00

Yup, that's what feminism has been about in the modern age not "equality" , and it's gonna continue because it's encouraged and socially acceptable, men gotta react and adapt accordingly

scwizard · 2022-03-07T03:44:42+00:00

Is it "sexism" if it's justified though?

Like it's pretty clear at this point that women on birth control have clearer heads than men do. They going to college at much higher rates. Graduating at much higher rates. Outearning men except at the very top end and except when they decide to have children.

They're more likely to keep their living space clean. Less likely to commit crimes. Less prone to violence. Less likely to abuse their partner. Less likely to abuse drugs or alcohol. They live longer.

I'm sure you can quantify some ways they fall short but it's not really socially acceptable to say them.

If you compare guys to girls who ovulate like normal idk. Obviously that changes things a bit.

EDIT: oh yeah and more empathetic everyone always beats me over the head on that point

social_mule · 2022-03-07T01:14:07+00:00

They've become a lot more open about it but I suspect their grandmothers and great grandmothers were misandrists as well. That's a phenomenon that doesn't get discussed often enough on PPD. Yes, the media does a good job of painting men in general and fathers in particular as buffoons and that's worth discussing but I suspect plenty of women heard unfiltered misandry from the mouths of the older women in their families as little girls.

It doesn't take half a dozen aunts to prepare Thanksgiving dinner. Those heifers were in the kitchen listening to grandma telling them to never depend on a man and low key shitting on grandpa.

yaboytim · 2022-03-07T02:11:37+00:00

I'm not too sure. I will say negativity towards men from woman is more on the rise though. Someone will get more flack from saying something against women than they will against men. Nowadays (well maybe just on reddit), you might get called an incel just for disagreeing with a woman. It seems its just more acceptable to hate on men than it is for women.

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WholeCelebration4567 · 2022-03-07T09:33:47+00:00

Title	Have women become more sexist over time?
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