To 35+F, what do you think of men 35+M who went on strike against you?

gntlbastard · 2023-12-19T14:17:18+00:00

Here is what men of all age need to understand. You can do everything right, treat her like a princess and it won't prevent anything. Just as a woman can give a man everything and treat him like her whole world and won't prevent shit. If the person cheats they are going to cheat. If the person snaps and smashes your head through the wall - that is what is going to happen. The only thing you have control over are your boundaries and the ability to just dump that person on the spot and move on with your life.

desert_fly · 2023-12-19T14:10:40+00:00

I'm not interested in dating men who don't want to date me.

You do you. I wish everyone was as upfront with their preferences as possible. If you're not compatible, it's best to find out as soon as possible. No hard feelings if no bond was established.

harmonica2 · 2023-12-19T14:59:53+00:00

I don't understand the OP because if he believes women in their 30s are not worth it because then they rejected guys in their 20s, wouldn't women in their twenties that the OP is going for, be guilty of doing the same thing?

twistednormz · 2023-12-19T14:18:57+00:00

what I really want to know, is for those who did this (cheating, monkey branching excessively) to good men in their 20s, if you are already 35+F, do you even feel bad for what you did? Do you even care? Do you even understand the damage you caused to these men?

No, this is not what happens. I never "monkey branched", but all the guys I dated in my 20's and early 30's had one thing in common. Their first question when I broke up with them was "Is there someone else?". Every time! And even though I told them the truth, that there was no one else, they refused to believe it, and went back to their buddies to proclaim "she left me for another guy". I mean what do you think a guy is more likely to tell his buddies?

She left me but it's my own fault. She told me numerous times that she wasn't happy in the relationship, she felt taken for granted and badly treated. She wanted to fix it because she loved me but I couldn't be bothered since I was getting what I wanted. She finally had enough and left.

Or...

She left me for another guy, I was totally blindsided, I mean everything was fine between us, I thought we were happy. Then out of nowhere she just left. She must have had a new guy lined up already and monkey branched.

To sum up, "monkey branching" is clearly a real thing that some people do. However, the idea that women regularly do this to poor men as if it's "female nature" is something men tell each other to save face, and you can't convince me otherwise because I've seen this irl too many times by my own exes and many others.

Or the implications that has caused to women now in their 30s who didn't do what you did?

Can you tell me what implications you are referring to? What terrible things do you think have happened to women who monkey branched (or didn't but were accused of it anyway) that didn't happen to other women?

Lenovo_Driver · 2023-12-19T14:12:35+00:00

You’re not just choosing not to date those women though, you’re essentially voting not to date period.

So Why would they even care? You’re a self described 6, it’s not like they can’t find another dude like you without those issues.

It’s been 10 years in a world of 4 billion women why is your social circle so small to have not expanded past the same women you already dated and learned you were not compatible with?

-Shes-A-Carnival · 2023-12-19T14:30:38+00:00

why would i ever even think about this

HighlightThink5276 · 2023-12-19T14:50:41+00:00

You have to understand women in hero 20’s get so much attention…you can’t really resent that. If mid 20’s men got the same about of attention as women…we’d be terrible assholes honestly

Barneysparky · 2023-12-19T13:40:58+00:00

Nothing is worse than being in a relationship with someone who resents you.

MGTOW would be doing everyone a favor.

Morwening · 2023-12-19T14:37:03+00:00

How you going to be in your 30s and still raging about not getting laid enough a decade ago. Get a grip!

obviousredflag · 2023-12-19T15:15:42+00:00

Oh a twist on the common revenge fantasy. Opting out of the mating market, to not reward women in general with yourself, for what some women did to you when you were younger. Wow.

But you need to check first, if women even care and if they would feel the pain you want them to feel, while actually, nobody gives a fuck if you opt out of dating. You are hurting nobody but yourself.

There are just as many women who got cheated on and monkey branched, who are now in their 30s and bitter about men and dating, who opt out of dating, to protect themselves from being hurt again.

Pacman124 · 2023-12-19T14:07:28+00:00

It kinda resonates with a post of mine I made roughly a week ago. Most people were kind of pessimistic about the whole thing including women themselves. The post was basically about what your dating life will become after your 30s as an undesirable man.

The truth is noone but men like us, will care about the issue. No woman is going to feel bad for overlooking a random dude in their life, it's normal.

AF BB is the real deal and every man that isn't at the top of the top is going to experience it. Though it's a spectrum, so some BB situations are going to be less shallow/more genuine than others. It will depend on the dynamic of the relationship and your attitude.

I'm not a woman, so maybe you're not looking for my answer, but unless you're some giga late bloomer billionaire, no woman is going to "regret" having overlooked you in the past. The decision you'll take (celibacy, BB or short term dating), should only based on what makes you happy, it's not going to affect anyone else.

badgersonice · 2023-12-19T14:46:08+00:00

I was a virgin at 30. I didn’t date assholes and shallow cheating hotties then turn to a “plan B”. Thats what you did, per your description:

I was cheated on a lot in my 20s, gave flowers, didn't cheat, dinner dates, name it? I was generally what call also 'monkey branched' a lot.

If you were cheated on once or twice, I’d say it was maybe bad luck. But you say you got cheated on ”a lot”. Sorry, but your “plan A” was those kinds of women, not steady loyal women. Why would I be sad a guy who prefers that kind of woman didn’t want me?

Why would I be sad that guys like you didn’t want me in my early 30s? I didn’t want to be 23 and date an older guy who using me as his “plan B”. What a waste of my life!

Or the implications that has caused to women now in their 30s who didn't do what you did?

As one of those women, sorry, but you flatter yourself. I’m glad I didn’t catch the last ditch, plan B interest of a guy like you. You would have never viewed me as a good choice, just a boring becky fall-back plan, and I deserved better than that. Being alone was better than being with a guy like that.

Cethlinnstooth · 2023-12-19T15:57:05+00:00

I don't think they think of you at all, dude.

ladyindev · 2023-12-19T15:24:28+00:00

I fully support you, 100%. Well, maybe not in your possible targeting of young women, if you eventually choose to go that route, but in your decision to leave me out of it.

I definitely would want no part in whatever trauma response this is that you're displaying, and I think a man like this would make the worst partner for me and my relationship needs. I think you're doing women my age (I'm almost 34) a favor. There are good men without extreme levels of bitterness who are well adjusted, have a stronger sense of logical reasoning, and have a healthier relationship with women. At this point in life, many of us (though not all) are looking for husbands and family. This kind of bitterness would look like a threat to my emotional health and to the health of my family and I wouldn't view men like this as husband or father material for myself. Your husband will pass down his views of women and his view of himself to your children. I'm not going to die if I don't have children, but I started dating seriously at 32 to give it a chance, if the plan is to try to have a biological child.

I think it's your responsibility to do the work to be a healthy partner, just like I focused on my emotional maturity and my relationships overall throughout my 20s and even still now. You haven't done that. You have, quite irrationally, chosen to strike against an entire generation of women, as if we are a monolith and as if anyone owed you anything in their youngest years. I wasn't interested in seriously dating anyone in my early 20s. I was figuring myself out, traveling, strengthening my relationships, trying to figure out my career. To act as if I or any young woman owed you her youth is actually insanely entitled and again, I would never choose to date a man like that. And I would be concerned for any of my friends or loved ones to be with a man like that because I am sure that mindset comes with actions/behaviors that are probably emotionally abusive or neglectful in relationships. I want all my babes to have healthy relationships. There's way too much crazy out here.

And there are men who have healthy relationships with women. I can empathize with men who struggled as well, but it sounds like there's no accountability or self-awareness in trying to figure out why you struggled. Instead you've accused an entire generation of mistreating you and seem to think the 20s behavior you observed isn't also a reality for 20s women today. Strange.

My bf, and likely soon to be fiance, is only one year older than I am and we're happy. His experiences were different than yours, and he has had more relationships and more sexual partners than I have had. But he has gone through a lot - messy breakups, suicidal ex who tried to manipulate him into staying and threatened his job, etc. I'm so grateful that he has had the emotional maturity to not project that onto me and force me to prove that I'm not anyone else other than who I am. He brings his wounds, of course, but he's not toxic or unhealthy about it. He allows me to show up as myself and he accepts and works with me based on who I am and what I bring to the table - not the last girl who did xyz. We choose each other and talk about our insecurities and past experiences. I hope you become that kind of person one day, but until then, I do think it's best that you leave older women alone. There's no shame in therapy.

Sooo you can keep on striking. Works for me, honestly.

Also, side note - everyone ages differently, but I'm basically 34 and I don't have fine lines or wrinkles. My mom didn't get fine lines until her mid-late 50s and she's 60 now and doesn't have wrinkles. I suggest a good skin care routine and wearing sunscreen daily! Genetics tend to play the biggest role, but an ounce of prevention, they say. Or just embrace it - that's fine too, but I'm just saying, if you're concerned or want to age slightly more gracefully - skin care, laser facials, sunscreen every day, and watch the sun exposure - no or minimal tanning.

FaradayBurka · 2023-12-19T15:36:11+00:00

I had zero problem doing in my thirties, even in my forties. I never did AFBB and no one was a Plan B or anything. I just date people I like. Strangely, there was no strike.

StopThinkingJustPick · 2023-12-19T17:29:10+00:00

Why give women who rejected you years ago so much power over you? You aren't taking power back. You're letting them live in your mind and dictate your decisions now. Worse yet, they probably didn't give you a second thought once they turned you down.

No woman is going to care that you go on strike. They'll move on with their life and pursue another guy.

If you spend your 30s being bitter, it will hurt you more than anyone. Let yourself enjoy that women are showing interest now and go on some dates.

MyLastBestChance · 2023-12-19T14:26:07+00:00

Ok🤷‍♀️. 👋bye bye. Sounds like it’s for the best all around. Good luck and happy trails.

What do we think about it? We don’t.

HighestTierMaslow · 2023-12-19T16:51:48+00:00

If I was single, I'd be glad they choose to weed me out. They wouldnt have the character and maturity I'd expect from a life partner. Ive never seen a guy who thinks like this have a mutually healthy rel with anyone.

When I was single I didnt care about shallow and immature men acting on their preferences. If I got involved with one somehow and when this guy would show red flags early on, I'd breathe a sigh of relief that I never wasted time on them. What is worse is the ones who have these preferences but do not consistently act on them for various reasons and end up using/manipulating/belitting women that do not fit their preferences.

Ive never cheated or monkey branched though. I really dont identify with any of the women you Redpill men describe on here that you date...

Zwolf36 · 2023-12-19T18:26:56+00:00

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASHAHAH

Safinated · 2023-12-19T15:34:01+00:00

Why would I care about people who don’t want me? I’m not into coercion

harmonica2 · 2023-12-19T15:31:23+00:00

The type of woman who dress provocatively are usually only going for really good looking guys and Chads anyway, so why are more average guys concerned about those women when they wouldn't go for them most likely anyway?

MistyMaisel · 2023-12-19T16:48:15+00:00

Having just turned thirty, I'm in a happy relationship, but if I wasn't.

I don't really give a shit about men not wanting to date me especially if their reasons are based on resentment, bitterness, past baggage, and some sort of "cut off my nose to spite my face" ideology.

That person sounds like a nightmare to date and I'm very glad they aren't setting their sights on me or making me have to try to sort through it or fix them or be their one good thing left, or whatever. I probably wouldn't want to date them either, right?

I wasn't the girl who cheated or monkey-branched (as far as I know, the monkey branching term seems to be very loosely applied to any women who date better man than their last man). But, even if I was, I'd just say, "so what, I was young, dumb, full of cum, making mistakes, being stupid, learning, growing, and doing my best with the hand I had at the time. If a man wants to not date me because they can't get over my past fuck-ups, honestly, fuck um, like they walk on water and are absolutely perfect and have nothing in their life they ever fucked up or made mistakes or needed to learn or grow about? Self-righteous wanna-be Jesus on your bitter manifesto crusade. I'm not nearly done growing and I've got more fuck-ups in me. So if you can't be graceful, merciful, and compassionate towards that, we were never going to have a flourishing long-term commitment anyway. Good riddance to bad filth. No, I don't care. Past is the past, high school ends and so do your 20s. I'm over it. If you inflict your shit on other women because of me, you're the villain and should grow up and stop doing that. And if you're still damaged after all this time, get therapy. "

TWCDev · 2023-12-19T17:00:45+00:00

I hope cheaters regret cheating, but I doubt it. I think everyone feels like they had a reason.
Back when I tried to be monogamous, I'd break up with people so I could be with someone else. So I'd never "cheat", but I thought, at the time, that to love someone else, meant I had to end my previous relationship, even if I didn't end up with the someone else.
When I committed to polyamory, everything made sense. There are these weird aliens on the planet, who look like me, but apparently they can love just one person and be satisfied. If I date those alien creatures, there will be heartache on both sides. They're like emotional landmines just waiting to break my heart.

Now I only date polyamorous people, and relationships make sense. There isn't any soap opera crap. Things don't always work out, but when they end, they tend to end smoothly and for reasons that don't involve "cheating". For me, when a partner has "cheated" on me, even though they can sleep with anyone they want, I calmly state my boundaries and how I'm not ever upset about someone fucking someone else, but I need clear communication, no deception, and STD testing. Every time, that person becomes free, like a weight lifted off their shoulders, and they realize that I truly am committed to polyamory and things aren't a "trap" waiting for me to yell at them about something or other.
Now, in my 40s, I meet so many polyamorous women (and men), and because we don't need a "plan B", that kind of talk just doesn't make any sense, and I wonder how many women ruined their 20s actually could have just been polyamorous and gotten everything it was they were looking for. Likewise, if you knew who was monogamous and who was polyamorous (even if they don't know yet), you wouldn't be breaking each other's hearts trying to accomplish radically different objectives of what you're getting from dating.

Uglypostwall · 2023-12-20T12:57:51+00:00

I am not surprised.I just accepted reality and used to it.We can't do anything and don't bring that much to the table anyway.If 35+ is really undateable,then I accept it and I don't see the point of still trying to date men.Men treat young women differently compared to old women. Man will feel like dating mom if he is dating woman his age.

Also with age, we become more experienced (which makes us less valuable), lose femininity, beauty and fertility so I understand why no one wants 35+ women. Even kid roasted me for it lol

AceOfSpadesGymBro3 · 2023-12-19T14:28:07+00:00

You are still blaming women for being a wimp and a pushover. You can protest all you want that women shouldn't treat you like shit, but all this time you allowed them to do just that. Human beings are naturally predatory and will prey on those they see as weak and vulnerable. That's just the way it is. So take responsibility. It wasn't those women's fault that you were a wimp. No need to make someone else pay for your own mistakes.

boom-wham-slam · 2023-12-19T15:54:19+00:00

I just date who I want casually. Typically like normal men across the ages, I prefer young attractive thin women. So that's who I date. If I want to make an exception it's certainly not because someone shames me into it but because I just feel like it. I do what I want period. And yes I get the you don't owe 30s women shit. I agree. I will further say I don't owe any woman shit at all period unless I gave my word about something. Which generally I don't and thus it's a non issue.

Queen_Maxima · 2023-12-19T15:38:28+00:00

Not sure what you are trying to say, but i would be amused. a strike? It would at least be a lot more peaceful and comfortable because i would be left alone by quite some men who want my attention all the time. My spouse is 33, i am 37. Its not bad at all.

Example: last weekend, i just finished my gig, i was standing at the bar with 20 euros and some guy wanted to buy me a drink and asked me to put away those 20 euros. I said, well actually i need to buy also drinks for my friend (male) and my guy. He bought drinks for the 3 of us. That was actually very nice and polite. Didn't seem like a strike. The guy looked early 30s. So i dont think your strike idea is very realistic, in my experience men just really like women, no matter what age :)

That wall RP speaks about doesn't exist, i never noticed a change in attention.

No-Rough-7390 · 2023-12-19T15:12:38+00:00

“She’s not yours, it’s just your turn.” is a solid mantra for a reason. Whether it lasts 3 months or until one of you die, all things end.

In regards to the age comment, it 100% makes sense but I think so many men freak out to the point where they are operating in some past dude of hers frame. It has far less to do with if she is exhibiting behaviors she did with past guys and far more about if she is exhibiting the behaviors you want and improve your life.

At some point, this come uppance fantasy men have for older women becomes somewhat delusional if you’re living your life for that. The only tool men have to work with is our attention and validation. Modify it as necessary and whether it’s a 26 yr old woman or 35 yr old woman you will make it clear what is valuable to you.

FixDifficult752 · 2023-12-19T16:52:12+00:00

A woman who is 30+ and doesn't have a ring is a really big red flag. She has had countless suitors and she probably rejected them all, I have seen this countless times.

If she never required the ring from the fụkbo1s and now demands it, she probably is looking settle down and have children before her eggs dry up.

And unfortunately it's true, they always choose the worst men when they are the hottest and ignore men their own age who are NOT thugs,seed spreaders and dealers, I see this every single day at my job.

So OP you have a choice to make, either be her cuck and paypig or fuk 20s pussy until your dick falls off 🤣.

AdEffective7894s · 2023-12-19T14:28:38+00:00

Why limit yourself?

Pretend that you want something serious too and pump and dump. You may need to go out for a month or so while making sure you don't catch feels. It will take some doing but it is doable. You just need to be OK with spreading the kind of misery that you abhor

Say " I am sorry, we are moving too fast " when it is time to cut and run. Standard "its not you, its me"

DisplacedBitzer · 2023-12-19T16:14:30+00:00

Shit, I’m like a younger version of you, already cheated on with my first relationship(vetted for a religious girl with good values). I try to act like the best guy a girls ever been with, that’s always my goal. I’ve never met a girl who actually reciprocates my effort in the slightest, so I feel like I’ll die alone. Earnest and sincere intentions mean nothing if some other random gives more attention.

RorschachRosettes · 2023-12-20T20:00:48+00:00

No, I don't care. I went what was best for me at the time, every time and I have no regrets.

Do you even understand the damage you caused to these men

Men cause damage too. Grow up and do what most women do and get therapy. This is indicative of your poor choices in women, not women as a whole being a poor choice.

Or the implications that has caused to women now in their 30s who didn't do what you did?

Men in their mid30s who aren't looking to start a family date women in their same age group. The only guys who can and do date a woman much younger than them are men who are economically advantaged over the majority of men, and men who are looking to start a family without complications like IVF.

You need therapy, stat.

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MidoriEgg · 2023-12-19T16:12:31+00:00

What about late twenties?

Title	To 35+F, what do you think of men 35+M who went on strike against you?
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Date	December 19, 2023 1:34 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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