Turn down sex and watch her go crazy

TheSunshineMan · 2021-09-26T14:36:23+00:00

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GucciJesus · 2021-09-26T14:33:27+00:00

It's good you're having fun but wouldn't the best way to go about this involve avoiding mind games? The maintenance required to keep these kinds of games going always takes up too much energy and time. And when the tables turn it really sucks.

MoneyDiaryofaMoron · 2021-09-26T16:57:43+00:00

God, I’m so glad I’m not in my 20s anymore. This all just sounds insufferable.

recyclablebanthas · 2021-09-27T01:37:03+00:00

Quick note: Bear in mind that a lot of things can "work" in seduction. Some people respond to this kind of tactic. Some people won't.

It can work, but it's not necessary or foundational. It's more of a personal thing whether someone wants to play games and be with people who play games.

YoungCapoon · 2021-09-26T17:00:00+00:00

I feel like this works if she’s hella into you besides that a girl probably gon flake or find another dick

DrinksAreOnTheHouse · 2021-09-26T16:32:24+00:00

Careful with this. I think giving a girl a good orgasm goes further than denying her of one. It will give her a good association with you. Be good in bed will get the job done :)

PoPoChao · 2021-09-26T16:56:24+00:00

Idk. In my experience that might work for a little bit but they might lose interest when they find someone else to fuck

klippklar · 2021-09-26T14:33:08+00:00

aye that’s great bro but I would just add that don’t say “second date” don’t mention a specific timeline for when to have sex it’s too logical. Just say we’re moving too fast I wanna take it slow or we’ll see where time takes us etc. it’s more mysterious gets her thinking even more

thatnewaccnt · 2021-09-26T18:04:46+00:00

Never heard a guy say “fun with mind games” before, fucking psychopath lmao hahaha

DarthFarris · 2021-09-26T14:42:02+00:00

*Checks notes*: OP was cockblocked by..... himself?

ForTheLoveofGeese · 2021-09-26T16:27:54+00:00

Dude that's some beta shit, playing "mind games". Get over yourself.

adsq93 · 2021-09-26T18:20:18+00:00

I believe the only reason you turned her down was because you have a lot of options available.

Because come on man, you don’t turn down a good moment like that.

pokemonpokemonmario · 2021-09-26T14:50:40+00:00

Chicks do this because they think guys won't respect them unless they make them wait to the 2nd or 3rd date. Doing this to girls is a great way to show youre not thirsty and can get it as much as you want it, weather that's true or not doesn't really matter its all about how you're perceived.

moose16 · 2021-09-26T18:04:33+00:00

It’s great that you can show her she can’t use sex to have power over you, but maybe chill with the “mind games”. That’s how you attract toxic people

Herbonex · 2021-09-26T14:10:08+00:00

!RemindMe 24h

TheSunshineMan · 2021-09-26T14:36:16+00:00

It could have gone the other way too..

She could have blocked you and never talked to you again.

airmcnair06 · 2021-09-26T16:21:10+00:00

Lol this is so stupid. Most of the mans in this subreddit are idiots

2021-09-26T17:33:11+00:00

mind games? bro seriously?

Cindersxo · 2021-09-26T14:46:26+00:00

So childish. I can't.

CleanYourLobster85 · 2021-09-26T14:59:38+00:00

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MetaphysicPhilosophy · 2021-09-26T17:09:00+00:00

I think it’s good that you teased her a bit, but telling her to wait until the second date is a bit extreme. She might just go to some other guy who will fuck her on the first date and lose interest in you. Then again, I didn’t talk to the chick, so maybe she is really into you.

Tyler_Durden_Says · 2021-09-26T14:34:22+00:00

Yeah no that never happened.

Dianabayyebii · 2021-09-26T16:34:07+00:00

I’m curious how long this will last. Genuinely curious…

yardapesbb · 2021-09-27T00:17:04+00:00

I did this once. She dumped me for somebody else.

2021-09-26T17:19:02+00:00

Why wouldn’t you just fuck her I do not get this

SuaveFuck · 2021-09-26T17:32:58+00:00

cant wait for the update "well she ghosted me, i wonder why".

BugHistorical8691 · 2021-09-26T17:44:59+00:00

imagine if the roles were reversed in that scenario lol

imagine if the guy tried to unzip the pants of a bitch, and then getting pissed if you made him wait until a second date for sex

No-Childhood-3984 · 2021-09-26T22:45:25+00:00

i mean she kinda needy to that shit ngl

2021-09-26T15:18:32+00:00

As long as you are OK with her leaving your house to go bang some other dude after your date...

dlo88 · 2021-09-26T18:08:22+00:00

You guys are wayyyyy overthinking this shit lmfao

MisterShogunate · 2021-09-27T00:11:40+00:00

People who hate mind games just don’t know how to operate in the real world where kind games are a necessity. 90% of the women you’ll meet will play mind games. It’s part of human genes to play mind games. In fact this is the reason we evolved bigger brains so we can understand socializing much better and deal with mind games.

2021-09-27T01:58:13+00:00

Everybody complaining but truth is that girls love this type of shit. Maybe not the whole mind games premise but they want to be entertained and not be with a yes-man.

NiNj4_C0W5L4Pr · 2021-09-26T17:49:08+00:00

Supply and demand salesmanship tactics. It's easy to up the price when you know a person is willing to pay anything to get what they want. Don't go overboard torturing the poor girl, but at least be sure to give her multiple orgasms for her effort. Feels good to be in the drivers seat, doesn't it? (Almost) better than sex!

tb151 · 2021-09-26T18:21:06+00:00

They get really confused when you flip the script

LowkeyJC · 2021-09-26T18:02:12+00:00

This is a power move, haven't met a woman who didn't love this, just make sure you deliver.

peaches_onions · 2021-10-08T11:52:27+00:00

Turning down sex to intentionally play mind games with the assumption that it’ll make a girl want to come back for more/a chance at round two and basically cockblocking yourself for no reason sounds just so bizarre to me. Im a woman and even I don’t play that risky shit. Good luck to you though tell me how it goes I HAVE to know!

plaze6288 · 2021-09-26T15:17:14+00:00

Iv done this too. It's actually pretty funny to watch them seeth

drewcer · 2021-09-26T19:04:58+00:00

Lol this happened to me once except it was in a strip club (one of the "classier" more expensive ones with uber hot girls btw. And backstory, I'd been doing strip club game a lot and got really good at it following old-school textbook mystery method stuff. So it wasn't a pay-for-play thing, the girl wanted me to fuck her outside of the strip club no money involved).

So I denied her request, she was visibly disappointed from it. I could tell she told the other girls in the back of the place afterward because the whole rest of the night I'm getting attention from like every single girl there including the waitresses (who were actually even hotter than most of the dancers).

I got a whole bunch of numbers that night and ended up dating one of the bartenders there for a while.

Esp for dancers who encounter sexually desperate guys all day, showing that restraint is unbelievably powerful. It's something they never see.

The moral of the story is be the 1 in 10000 guy who isn't desperate for sex and doesn't need anything, enjoys their company but is fine without it too.

mugatucrazypills · 2021-09-26T18:14:57+00:00

yeah, this works, she'll go nuts even if you tell her she can't have a particular sex act ... for a while

you need to stand and deliver at some point and not let this out too long after you've made your point, can probably jump right to banging out her ass on second date. (or whatever your thing is)

HOT/COLD makes them lose their minds. If you've been treated like shit by women at some point in your life (most men except for the rare chad) ... it's hard to feel bad about watching them meltdown.

account_for_rel · 2021-09-26T15:55:46+00:00

Yeah, once she gets sex, she's gonna lose interest. This is she as girls playing hard to get. You go crazy to get what you cant have, but once you do, you're done.

brabus4 · 2021-09-26T18:20:45+00:00

It's true. I had a sport related injury and couldn't perform, and my GF was as horny as she was. It really messes with a girl's system when you're the one declining the offer, and the result is usually being wanted even more

Narcan9 · 2021-09-26T23:13:02+00:00

So you cock blocked yourself? Fuck a woman right and she'll be super responsive too.

itslit11 · 2021-09-26T14:30:52+00:00

Thanks bro!

growing4fun · 2021-09-26T19:01:29+00:00

You have her, you claimed the power she us used to having over men and she hates it and loves it at the same time.

2021-09-26T21:28:06+00:00

Or you know... you could stop playing childish games and just fuck her

willgo-waggins · 2021-09-26T21:40:05+00:00

Interesting to read this.

I just started up with a woman quite a bit younger than I am. The first time we met a few weeks ago was at a mutual social group party. She was new to the group. And quite a bit younger than the average. I was actually working towards another woman (46) who I had met the week before.

This younger one was immediately dialed in the minute we started talking. We have work mutuality and had an extended conversation about that where we were able to really get a feel and respect for each other’s mind. After the other woman left the party early, my new friend was immediately attached to my hip the rest of the night. Hand on my arm/shoulder. Then o. My leg while she subtly caressed the back of my neck and around my ear. I’m no dummy and very experienced and I knew that if there wasn’t a crowd she would have literally been in my lap.

Unfortunately as the night went on and the crowd mostly left down to the core group, she became very drunk. And while it wasn’t sloppy or pukey, she was very much unable to consent and obviously was having trouble remembering anything.

So despite her laying all over me/stroking me/ begging me to “take her to lie down so we could rest”, I made sure she was safely settled down and gone to sleep - alone.

The following week we had another group party and she realized that she had become near blackout and didn’t remember she had literally shared her life history. She pulled me aside and whispered asking me what we had done and apologizing and being incredibly embarrassed. I told her that what happened was that I had taken care of her and done nothing because I will never sleep with a girl who cannot consent. She was literally blown away and said “I’m done drinking right now and we are spending tonight together because I want you more than I did last week”.

And that’s what happened and it was fantastic. Reward for living right and being a decent human and having morals was beyond worth it and Hs led to what will be a great and fun friendship and maybe more.

2021-09-26T21:55:44+00:00

this is cool until she turns to someone else for sex and you complain she cheated.

Narcan9 · 2021-09-26T23:15:17+00:00

Yes I agree it's great to wield some power and not give a woman everything she wants. However, I'd rather do this in other areas of a relationship, not by denying myself sex.

lefthandedaf · 2021-09-26T23:45:54+00:00

This is interesting but honestly I would’ve just fucked her lol

2021-09-27T01:50:29+00:00

Um this sounds terrible to me, but if it works for you 🤷🏻‍♀️

CalvinHobb3s · 2021-09-27T02:58:15+00:00

I've been away from this sub for a couple years now. WTF is this? When did things get this bad on here? Jesus

LoudGuest4028 · 2021-09-26T14:48:25+00:00

Maybe she’s used to the whole bar, drinking sex scene. Like in promising young women the movie she goes to bars to find guys that are looking for drunk girls.

HughBeaumont500 · 2021-09-26T16:22:06+00:00

I hate mind games

Girls seem to need it

Is what it is

Sigh

BugHistorical8691 · 2021-09-26T17:13:39+00:00

wow lol

women are so narcissistic and full of themselves

j0hnnyrico · 2021-09-26T21:29:14+00:00

@op please adjust the flair hahahaha

jimsgympartyhouse · 2021-09-27T00:51:35+00:00

She’s thinking: he hasn’t told me about an STD and is at least decent enough to say no until he disclosed that…

HistoricalReception7 · 2021-09-27T00:55:36+00:00

This is bad advice. Tbh if i'm getting turned on by a guy and he pulls this on me, i'm playing his game. I'll wait it out until the next date/meetup. After I have sex with him, I won't be calling him back.

akrolina · 2021-09-26T17:03:03+00:00

BOOOO

jpizzle544 · 2021-09-26T19:00:02+00:00

Only thing I say that'll work against you will be her ego and self-esteem. She'll feel like you don't find her hot or take it in as a rejection and find someone else to fill that spot you left

mrrooftops · 2021-09-26T20:16:53+00:00

She is the type of woman who thinks her only value to men is sex. so if refused, she thinks she is doomed. So many women feel this way. Many women believe that men are only interested in sex with them if all else fails because their identity is so wrapped up in being sexually attractive.. to the point of being in total denial about it.

Vlasow · 2021-09-26T20:34:55+00:00

I know some otherwise decent girls for whom the mindgaming ability is a prerequesite for a relationship. They are pretty broken psychologically, yes. There aren't many psychologically mature youth in my circle, and that can actually be quite exciting and mind provoking, like in a good way when everyone consents.

j0hnnyrico · 2021-09-26T21:19:51+00:00

Yeah! You're the best! I rofl'ed on this. Any more bragging? God forbid, I don't mock you yoga guru mwahahahaaha

Swipergoneswipe · 2021-09-26T22:10:20+00:00

I do this!! It weeds out the ones I probably wouldn't want anyway (thirsty, etc) and it shows tons of confidence. Totally works for me

OJimmy · 2021-09-26T22:11:52+00:00

Portuguese waitress

Appropriate_Ad3327 · 2021-09-26T22:43:14+00:00

How tall are you?

jjwondor · 2021-09-26T22:58:22+00:00

I feel like at the same time, some girls would just be done with you at this point. I guess if you’re adequately conveying your sexual interest and able to keep her wanting more, she will retain interest.

pinkman33064 · 2021-09-26T22:58:55+00:00

Should have banged her not played games

tjger · 2021-09-26T23:27:31+00:00

Playing games isn’t really how I’d play the seduction game.

StrangeMaintenance6 · 2021-09-26T23:45:19+00:00

As someone who is into mental d/s games this is hot to me. Just make sure it is mutually satisfying and agreed. You have to know where you stand otherwise shit will get weird.

Lord_Augastus · 2021-09-27T00:51:05+00:00

Equally, if you are good in bed, some of the best thing to do is to edge the girl. Instead of getting her there and letting her cum, you stop, and take a breather for yourself and go hard again getting her there. It mainly works for those with higher lobido, if a girl is already hard to get there, dont try it, unless you can match the time take there again, or keep up your intensity. Otherwise there is an issue of getting tired.

IGetBoredSometimes23 · 2021-09-27T01:01:59+00:00

You probably have soft dom tendencies with a degradee fetish. Instead of doing mind games on an unconsenting person and being a raging dick in the process, find a consenting sub who enjoys begging for it and learn how to be a good dominant.

MILF4LYF · 2021-09-27T04:02:38+00:00

In my case it backfired, I still think about it sometimes in the middle of the night lmao

Whatchuthinkingabout · 2021-09-27T04:31:37+00:00

You banged her ego instead

eeggrroojj · 2021-09-27T05:03:33+00:00

I've found that a lot of the posts I read on this sub, are watered down versions of what Patrice O'Neal taught.

R.I.P

Section-H · 2021-09-27T06:38:31+00:00

At first I thought you refused sex on the first date out of personal morals but realized differently by the time I finished reading message.

King_Khaaleef · 2021-09-27T07:08:18+00:00

I’ve had an experience like this but I think mine was a tad bit extreme. Sometime ago I was making out with this girl and things got heated fast, so I decided to finger her and I did that for a little bit then started playing around her clitoris and rubbing it which she seemed to enjoy, because she moaned “don’t stop” to which I responded to by abruptly stopping :/ now she isn’t as responsive to my sexual utterances as she was before.

Sooo don’t be like me

2021-09-27T07:57:48+00:00

I mean solid strategy but I’m a horny muthafucka and will sure af put out on the first date

FIVE_6_MAFIA · 2021-09-27T08:49:53+00:00

Bro, all you did was warm her up to get her back blown out by the dude she texted afterward 😂

She's probably just hitting you up so you can do the same thing again.

philonoist · 2021-09-27T09:51:46+00:00

A lot of comments from fellow men are very mean and discouraging and judgmental. Fuck them. You get to decide when to have sex or play tease to increase the sexual tension. Girls like it when you don't always have brain in your dick.

SpiritOfAnAngie · 2021-09-27T10:07:59+00:00

Mind games are very immature and a huge waste of time for both parties.

It’s probably about you feeling like you have control vs. you actually liking her.

So you turned down a hot chick MAYBE for the first time. Big whoop..

It seems like you are more excited about possibly hurting her ego that then fed your ego so now you want more of that egotistical high instead of actually being interested in her.

This path doesn’t lead to love. But I guess I don’t know exactly what you are looking for so ignore this if you are just interested in bragging about your almost hookups.

FrenchHokage · 2021-09-27T12:17:46+00:00

Or she thinks you are going slow because you really like her and want to see how far you two can go and your “mind games” are going to fuck her up mentally with trust and healthy relationship experiences and expectations. But you’ll get your dick wet right bro? So what do you care…

Far-Mission4033 · 2021-09-27T15:08:55+00:00

She's aware that she's bombarded with texts and offers from satellites (ppl who surround her waiting for a piece) and what you just did classify you as "potential" or something mysterious/uncommon for her.

Sufficient-Cry-9163 · 2021-09-27T20:04:49+00:00

Its very typical for douche bags to refuse sex. They all assume that its a rarity for a good looking woman to get rejected for sex, but its common. If you end up dating her, she will begin to feel unattractive and lose interest in sex with you.

Nayilenja · 2021-09-28T11:34:21+00:00

lol, that's awesome bru

OriginalFinnah · 2021-09-28T23:25:35+00:00

Kind of sounds like she does this thing a lot sounds like one for the roster and not for wife

USMCLP · 2021-10-01T04:22:00+00:00

Sounds like a recipe for sexual coercion.

Short-Translator-728 · 2021-10-01T22:54:44+00:00

God, I wish I had the genetics to do this shit.

I'm 2200+ approaches in and NOTHING over 4 years, along with 4+ years of consistency in the gym with a perfect diet.

This shit is just so depressing after experiencing all of the insults and harassment I've gotten over the years from women making fun of me for things I can't control.

thgjeigohrisidh · 2021-10-02T09:46:03+00:00

My reaction to this post was "why tho??".

But if you feel you have something worthy to gain from "driving her crazy" and having the girl being super needy with you, and you know how to balance that, you go do what you wanna do. I'm in no position to judge, and neither are anyone else (unless you are unnecessarily hurting the girl 👧)

Me personally, I think I'd just fuck her and accept being ghosted after or whatever. Who gives a fuck.

freethinking123 · 2021-10-04T13:55:09+00:00

How do you get to a mind games concept? you turned her down so that you got the upper hand and she doesn't think you're another simp and desperate guy, next time she'll throw herself at you. It's not a mind game it's called a strategy and you avoid drama and disease by not being too impetuous and finding out what you thought you knew about her was all bulshit. Or like maybe she has a boyfriend or other drama. That's why she does one night immediate stands

ManiacalDream · 2021-10-07T14:39:14+00:00

The fact that she was pissed at the moment and then super responsive and that you felt the need to use “mind games”…do u both just want sex or an actual relationship? Because I just can’t see this as a healthy long term relationship

2021-10-09T22:48:58+00:00

It can also very easily go the opposite way too. I met up with a girl and she was going to stay down for a few days. On the first night we just spooned since I wasn't up for it. She ended up leaving early since she took it that I was uninterested

ChiefEdiri · 2021-10-19T02:59:43+00:00

YMMV*

FenderBassman50 · 2021-10-23T11:23:32+00:00

Yeah, I was told “NOBODY turns me down FIRST”!!!

Title	Turn down sex and watch her go crazy
Author	blessedwiththecurse
Upvotes	1042
Comments	226
Date	September 26, 2021 2:02 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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