Why do so few men have "rizz"?

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poischat · 2025-04-04T22:10:15+00:00

1) It is generally easier for a women to seduce a guy. Even if she does it badly it will probably work.

2) Women get way more positive reinforcement from an early age with the opposite gender.

alymoosh · 2025-04-04T22:45:13+00:00

I don’t buy the premise at all. I came out of a divorce, discovered PUA (when it was slightly less toxic) and had an absolute blast meeting all kinds of women, having previously been quite a shy guy. Invest in yourself, don’t be fake, don’t be creepy, don’t take things personally if someone isn’t interested (it genuinely doesn’t matter), and just enjoy the whole process and not some arbitrary target.

ZEN-AF_Official · 2025-04-04T23:13:38+00:00

Because women don't need "rizz" to seduce a guy... they need to be physically attractive and that's all.

I get approached by girls a lot and trust me they are far more awkward and have less rizz than the avg dude has. The avg girl who approaches me basically asks a useless question like "where's the nearest Starbucks " at 2 am and then just stands there with a large smile twirling her hair and contributing nothing rizz worthy to the conversation

BadDoodle4You · 2025-04-04T22:08:00+00:00

Well the ones that have rizz are taken, therefore all your left with are the ones who havent successfully rizzed yet

MrNines9 · 2025-04-05T02:35:33+00:00

Because there is a fine line between "Rizz" and a "Rizz-straining Order"

TheRealJamesHoffa · 2025-04-05T01:04:53+00:00

There’s a reason there is a stereotype of pretty girls being stupid. They have a kind of privilege where everything they say is smart, funny, interesting, etc. no matter what. They always get positive feedback, so they never really have to work on their personality or being a decent person beyond just their looks.

cookycoo · 2025-04-05T00:08:16+00:00

Supply and demand. Most women half decent looking operate in a sellers market where they dictate terms. Most men half decent looking operate in that same market. Only exceptionally good looking men who have it all together operate in a sellers market where they dictate terms. You can manipulate some aspects of these transactions but the market is the market you are in. The closer you get to being that guy the more the market becomes favourable.

Fantastic-Life-2024 · 2025-04-05T00:24:38+00:00

Rizz is a terrible word. Charisma is the correct one. Charisma is being engaging being magnetic and captivating. Very few women have that. Yes they can be alluring and sexy but thats not charisma.

Lubranzz · 2025-04-04T22:10:59+00:00

This is the post that finally makes me leave this cringey incel filled subreddit.

Existing-Big-3039 · 2025-04-04T22:39:26+00:00

Women don't have to do much, if anything at all, to seduce men. We're VERY easy to please.

Women on the other hand... holy shit.

CharmingRejector · 2025-04-04T23:04:24+00:00

You've got this wrong. Rizz is situational for most guys. But it can be learned, mostly by letting go and daring to have fun and let lose also in front of the hot girls.

Once you go unstifled, and you're in the zone, rizz will come naturally to you - if you let it. Most guys don't know how, and they freeze up when they talk to the hottest women. Because they think it matters, when it really doesn't. The guys with "rizz" are the guys who just don't care, and who are able to get in the zone even with that hot girl.

There will be times where you experience rizz naturally. That's when you just click with this girl and she becomes your girlfriend, or she'll at least want to go home with you. Others will take notice. Or a woman will just land in your arms, and want to stay there - and then you just act. You bring her outside, make out with her and take her home. Like, it's just magic, girls come out of thin air when you're in that state. Opposite, if you're not in that state, and you're in your head, and negative thought or anger or frustration keeps buzzing, or fear of rejection, then ... no matter what magic pickup line you use, it will fail and you will be called a creep. In that state, you will be called a creep just for looking at a woman. Meanwhile, when you're in state - and if you also visualize, and you're in a state of bliss - don't be surprised if a woman comes right over to you and starts making out with you out of the blue (I base this on personal experience - and I'm not this super hot guy).

Hope I shed some light on it. Bottom line, rizz is mostly situational, but it can also be learned.

Kahitanou · 2025-04-05T02:23:55+00:00

Women fuck who they want, men fuck who they can. Average guy vs average woman , an average woman has more options and is easier to “rizz” men because average men are more “available”

Kilo-Alpha47920 · 2025-04-04T22:44:35+00:00

He who uses the word “rizz”, has no rizz.

KoleSekor · 2025-04-04T22:18:43+00:00

Social conditioning.

We strip boys of their natural rizz. We feminize young men starting in school. Make them follow lame rules. Sit in a chair all day memorizing facts. Tell them they're not worthy until they succeed in the way society wants them to. Make them feel women are more valuable than them. So it's bye bye natural confidence, hello insecurities.

Silly_Randy · 2025-04-04T22:33:33+00:00

It's because women have double standards and are passive aggressive.

Men who don't give af about how they are judged, automatically have rizz.

That's it. That's what rizz essentially is. Not giving a goddamn fuck.

How many Men do you know that don't give af? How many Men do you know that care about Thier reputation?

There's your answer.

Western_Secretary284 · 2025-04-04T22:13:56+00:00

Because for most of history, they've never had to have rizz. This is truly the first generation in the history of western civilization where women can make and even exceed what men can make.

Beyond the societal expectations of women being encouraged to marry and pop out kids in their early 20s, most of the jobs women could get traditionally, paid shit, so they had to shack up with a man for financial stability.

Before, a mediocre man could drop out of high-school, work a trade, and afford a suburban house with 2 cars.

Most men are still just as mediocre, but women can make their own money, so they don't have to settle for less anymore.

This is also why younger men are turning to conservatism. It creates a hierarchy where they're artificially elevated to the top. They haven't loss anything but their privilege.

saryiahan · 2025-04-04T23:25:44+00:00

Why does this feel like some stupid alpha male bs and it’s coming from someone dumb enough to believe it

Kvandergriff · 2025-04-04T22:30:59+00:00

It’s not worth the time or effort anymore unless you just check all the “good woman” boxes

Brutal_De1uxe · 2025-04-05T02:45:36+00:00

"rizz" - no i'm not 15

Olama · 2025-04-04T23:14:20+00:00

This could be said ten fold about women tbh

yaxis50 · 2025-04-05T00:25:42+00:00

Women can't seduce their way into a relationship with the man they want. Any woman can get laid.

No-Buy7459 · 2025-04-04T23:02:47+00:00

1) we have only recently (some thousands of years) been social and therefore more than rizz physical characteristics mattered much more. Like fighting strength, athleticism etc

2) Women think differently than men. Why dont women get turned on by the way men talk about video games for example ? Why is the onus on men to talk in a way which women find attractive ?

Borinquense · 2025-04-05T03:26:33+00:00

You ask that like it’s taught in fucking school or something lmao

HundleyC09 · 2025-04-05T00:41:11+00:00

Because we are scared to fuck up, so we fuck up

Outside_Bowler8148 · 2025-04-05T03:35:39+00:00

This question demonstrates a key lack of understanding on how dating and seduction generally work

HomelessMilkman · 2025-04-05T10:33:46+00:00

The sheer amount of resistance guys have to trusting in themselves is frankly unbelievable.

There's so much judgment and comparison that the notion of being 'fun' to talk to is not even remotely on the table.

everydayguy_ · 2025-04-05T04:04:18+00:00

Because men for the most part work off rationality and rizz is all over the place.

Since first grade majority of women gravitate the top % of guys in the school (most cases the most athletic and/or handsome) so from a young age most men don’t really get the chance and exposure to really develop this skill set.

FriendlyWrenChilling · 2025-04-04T23:14:20+00:00

Because these men never approach women and leave comments on why they cant do so under my highly valuable and educational posts which is the exact thing that can bring them out of their predicament.

nordik1 · 2025-04-05T02:13:27+00:00

Women are far pickier and will axe a guy for stepping on an invisible landmine, and most guys hit those landmines

Men are the opposite and if the chick is remotely attractive, they’re sold

And many guys feel like they already know how to talk to women and won’t admit they don’t due to ego

ValhirFirstThunder · 2025-04-05T00:31:34+00:00

Bro a woman just needs to say hi. It's a whole game with men. Now of course this isn't a hard and fast rule. But like if you are a healthy female that goes to the gym, you can get laid. Men needs extra steps after that

Love_JWZ · 2025-04-05T05:58:26+00:00

Because most men are just too thirsty to act normal

sumimigaquatchi · 2025-04-05T11:25:27+00:00

Most men have or got AA because they got rejected. Most cold approaches and up with rejections. What you see on youtube are mostly coaches with above average social skills or looks.

Kgb725 · 2025-04-05T11:31:22+00:00

Have you seen women go for guys they want? They have less than 0 game and only rely on looks

noiceonebro · 2025-04-05T12:23:33+00:00

Other than intrinsic biological differences, ironically our community is the one that’s shooting ourselves in the feet. It’s because talking about self-grooming and self-improvement can be seen as “gay” among most male crowd.

Talks about hygiene, fashion, self-care started as soon as a girl hits puberty. You try to talk about these with the boys, and you’d be shot down as gay. Funnily enough, this aversion from self-care doesn’t become better with age, but simply becomes worse. Male crowds just tend to associate not caring about how you care for yourself as a sign of maturity which is kinda sad.

I’m so glad that the newer generation of men are more open about these topics.

Ok-Bit-6945 · 2025-04-05T14:26:14+00:00

I feel “rizz” don’t matter much if you are good looking, rich and or interesting/funny/confident

vladiVP · 2025-04-05T16:22:08+00:00

"Rizz", "flirting", "game", is just convincing women u truly like them.

the_monkey_knows · 2025-04-05T17:56:00+00:00

There also are very few women that have "rizz". The thing is that there's a lot of desperate guys out there that would make some women believe they do when they actually don't.

Affectionate-Ant4888 · 2025-04-05T22:25:49+00:00

the way I see it pretty cool stuff; so if you develope this skill you will be way ahead then; the odds are in your favor

3LITE30 · 2025-04-06T01:00:58+00:00

From Ohio, the game is L no cap. No skibidi, mixtape ain’t dropping, so still staying out the way until then. Respectfully, I refuse to be a stat.

ExcellentPlace4608 · 2025-04-06T04:41:26+00:00

Most men can have rizz if they can get out of their head. I have a theory that our brains are too busy and overstimulated with technology that it makes it difficult but it’s no impossible. You have to be a more feeling being and not so logical all the time.

shawshanks · 2025-04-06T06:54:53+00:00

A woman flashing her tits will get lots of attention.

A man flashing his penis will get the police.

Grow a brain.

trik1guy · 2025-04-06T08:47:28+00:00

humans evolved for millenia (even before speech arose, when we were monkeys, cavemen, actually even before, when we were fish and everything between that)

everything was a danger, predators, decease etc. so nature evolved to roles.

men evolved to be strong, hunting, capable to fight off danger, be assertive when a new tribe asserted pressence (thread of war, rape, stealing resources etc)

women rvolved to be nurturing, caring, collecting (berrys and mushrooms and whatever)

our bodies evolved with the roles we accepted and what worked..

then there's the whole primitive aspect of rape, men not caring about the offspring while women have mothers instinct, and much more.

anyway, society and globalism evolved wayyy faster than the human psyche (instincts) and body did, so now our instincts are still primitive (in case society collapses, we can return to medieval and still survive).

point is, men aren't evolved to have RiZz (whatever the fuck kinda stupid word that is) in less modern times men did what had to be fucking done and women were impressed by it (being a great warrior, building a house, fight off threats, come home with rescources). modern women empowerment completely blew away men oppertunity to impress women, nobody realizes this because we still run on ancient software instincts in modern civilization. NOW we have to act like we have RiZz instead of things that truly matter, and it is ridiculous. but we have to adapt to these modern times, or be left behind, which circles back to the last few sentances i wrote here..

Wannabe-Nobody · 2025-04-06T10:39:22+00:00

The jizz monster ate it. He eats rizz all the time.

Source: Trust me bro

esimpstyle · 2025-04-06T17:19:12+00:00

It’s a dumbass concept in actuality and in completion. It’s not “rizz” it’s what woman was gullible to fall for your word salad facade and how long this “fantasy” lasts for her. Most likely not to long so you have to wave your magic wand for another fake story ahem “real story.” Then like clock work you attempt the facade again with the hope of another gullible woman.

Illustrious-Crew2551 · 2025-04-06T21:36:14+00:00

The James Bond charisma thing is pretty inaccurate. Charisma doesn't get you laid. Taking the lead and planning things out properly and not second guessing yourself does.

Most of it comes down to physical attraction. Here's how it goes:

Example: You're in a public place, you see a hot girl, you make eye contact with her, she smiles at you or holds eye contact for a while.

Generally, most guys nowadays are pussies, they'll look away and be super insecure, then later that night they'll jerk off while thinking about her.

A guy who has game, here is what he'll do:

Approach her and give any excuse to start a conversation, like asking for directions
Have a short conversation with her trying to get to know her
Ask for her number. If she says no, repeat on another girl
Text her the next day with basic small talk, then attempt to setup a date
On the date, get to know her for around an hour, then attempt to bring her back to his place by asking if she'd like to come in and grab a drink
Once they enter the guy's place, they start making out, tear each other's clothes off and start having sex

From that point, some guys will attempt to cultivate a sort of friend with benefits type of relationship, some will move onto the next girl, some will go for something more serious. Of course, sometimes it could take a few hours of hanging around a public place to find a girl who shows interest, and sometimes you might misread her signal, it takes time, it takes effort. Guys who just spend most of their time at home won't achieve that first step.

All this can be considered game. A guy who does this has a plan in mind, he's not just acting on impulse, he has game, but does he have charisma? Not necessarily, he's just being himself, he's not necessarily funny or different, but he does all the right moves, he doesn't wait for her to decide what will happen next, he takes the lead. That's what women want, they want a guy who can show her a good time who can lead every interaction, not a guy who constantly second guesses himself.

I say all this as a guy who has wasted many opportunities not taking the lead or not acting fast enough because I was afraid of doing the wrong thing or scaring her and in the end, my inaction scared her more than if I had acted faster.

bmcapers · 2025-04-04T22:08:56+00:00

Scott Galloway can break it down:

https://youtu.be/_i11gj-iq1I?si=7n2H87ayxJXCTYjq

Badguy60 · 2025-04-04T22:51:02+00:00

Because "society" carries dudes most the way or at least has been

Seriously most dudes just fall into having a relationship especially if they are even remotely good looking, or maybe something like family or religion gives you a push.

Today guys aren't as social and honestly seem straight up scared to tell girls they like them

RedFox457 · 2025-04-04T23:41:07+00:00

It’s a practice without any official guidance.

Pick up artists. Cold approaches. Be yourself.

All of these things have some semblance of efficiency but as a standalone teaching are flawed for only focusing on their intended use.

Learn how to talk about nothing. Random facts. Dumb jokes. Movie you watched?

Practice approaching people, not just hot chicks or whatever. Approach queer folks cause they look cool, dudes who got that sports jersey on, old ladies with badass tattoos. You hurt yourself by limiting human interaction, whether bias or some other stupid excuse.

Be yourself? Who are you tho? What do you do on your own time? Are you good at anything? Can you talk passionately about something? Can you entertain yourself? That is what Be yourself means, and it’s not fucking enough to tell people that.

Plastic_Friendship55 · 2025-04-04T23:55:58+00:00

Lack of effort. Maybe laziness.

The more often we make the same mistake, the harder it gets to break that habit. I think many men have gotten stuck in self sabotaging but don’t want to put into the effort to change. So the keep doing it wrong or give up.

Equal_Hope8605 · 2025-04-05T10:53:14+00:00

I want you to remind me one research who was conducted in this research there was a group of girls & boys were asked the same question would they like to spend the night with someone they don't know. the results were 71% of mean said yes and just assume how many girls may be said yes.......

....

guess

...more closer

.....you can never guess the answer is 0%

BurnItDownSR · 2025-04-05T15:46:40+00:00

The vast majority of women have no "rizz." Even less "rizz" than a below average man.

Men are just predominantly attracted to looks. Seriously, blackpill is rotting your brains.

Its MEN who are predominantly attracted to looks, not women like those blackpill incels keep claiming.

Women are more attracted to personality, competence, and social status. That's why fewer men are good with women.

immaSandNi-woops · 2025-04-05T16:30:44+00:00

Is this a joke?

Let me ask you this, if an average guy with no “rizz” at a bar went up to women and struck up a conversation for 30 seconds, and at the end asked “would you want to go home with me?” How many do you think would agree?

Now, flip the roles. How many guys is the girl getting?

If you believe it would be equal, then you’re sadly mistaken. The girl will end up taking more guys home. Why? Men are 100x easier to seduce than women, and that assumption you haven’t taken into account in your post.

Women are not great at “seduction” in the context of approaching. It’s like saying you have a fast car while driving down a steep hill, it doesn’t count. But imagine a car that can accelerate very fast on a steep up upwards? Now that’s incredible.

Your assumption is that everyone is on a flat surface; that is wrong.

MysteryLiezer · 2025-04-04T23:58:11+00:00

We all walk around with unlimited porn in our pocket, which has created a generation of men who cum into their OWN HAND, with FAR greater frequency than having shared that orgasm with a woman they love!

——————

Now, even while ignoring all the psychological, psychosomatic, and physiological implications of such a reality, still, this raises a valuable question:

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What exactly is supposed to be soooo incredibly “rizz-tastic” about MOST MEN, cumming into the HAND of a MAN, say 3x, 4x, heck, for some guys, it’s even TEN TIMES MORE, than the amount of times that they cum into the pussy of a woman?

Tell me: what’s supposed to be sexy about that?

Charge36 · 2025-04-04T23:17:34+00:00

I think it's less about rizz and more about gender economics. Women are more selective because the risks and costs of getting pregnant are so much higher for them. Guys are less selective because they can evade those consequences (if they're pieces of shit)

So you end up with a situation where its guys who are trying to rizz up girls, and girls are taking the best mates available to them.

Title	Why do so few men have "rizz"?
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Date	April 4, 2025 9:59 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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