I don’t believe the stories of the men in this group who claim to have persistently tried to improve themselves and still have not seen those efforts rewarded in the market places.

I think these men want fairness and would rather obstinately protest the state of reality than adjust their thoughts and behaviors to more closely align with it.

If a young man looksmaxes, drops porn so he can have some virility, goes to places where single women are (In person. No OLD), learns to act masculine, and is fun to be around, I don’t actually think it is possible for the vast majority of men to NOT have success in both the SMP and RMP.

It should also go without saying that having nonwestern values will mostly lead to failure when trying to interact with western women.

None of this is very hard to figure out, so that makes me think that the men who instead whine about women are men of poor character throwing an adult tantrum because they want things to be easier.

I think these men look and see that dating and having casual sex is easier for someone else and are outraged at the thought of having to do more work to get the same result that someone else got easier.

This type of thinking lands them online and they satiate themselves with porn, video games, and talking/reading about feminists, and this behavior only makes them repulsive to women. It makes them bitter and angry.

Then these same men will pin the way women react to them on the way they were born. It’ll be their bone structure or height or race or skin or receding hairline or socioeconomic status or any other thing that they can’t change to absolve themselves of any fault.

Now, for the small amount of men with terrible deformities or scarring or some severe mental issue, I do feel sorry for these men and do not envy them. But this is not the case for the majority of men that constitute the manosphere.