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Just How Fucked Are We?

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July 9, 2020
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As many of you know, I've been a champion of the free exchange of ideas for quite some time now. My mission has been modest in scope, I don't care to save the Nazis or give a platform to perverts, segregationists, or trolls. While free speech certainly entails these things, they are not my passion and not my life's work.

I have interest in one simple thing: men's interests and their ability to communicate them with each other. I had no idea when I came on board the red pill train that this would be such a cultural battle, but the writing on the wall was quite visible as soon as I opened my eyes.

There has been a constant war against the free exchange of ideas. I am not a feminist, nor do I follow intersectionality theory, but there is some truth to the old saying, the enemy-of-my-enemy is my friend.

Men are not limited to any political party or race, but they find their interests parallel to certain politics and races in our current cancel and censorship culture. The tactics used and perfected against men over the past few decades are now hard at work against whites and conservative voices. You don't have to be white or conservative to be a man, but you absolutely need to recognize the tactics being used right now don't really care if you're white or conservative if your interests are even remotely tangentially aligned.

And don't forget the cries of the racist and political movements. It's not whites, it's white men. It's not conservatives, it's the ol' boys club.

The Red Pill as a discussion forum has always varied greatly by race, creed, and political affiliation. We have large contingencies from dozens of countries, many of whom have no relation to USA politics.

But today US politics and racism are being deployed in a global battle for our culture and internet, with organizational forces that greatly resemble the very oppression they pretend they are fighting. They know they're not really resisting oppression when they yell "words are violence" as they assault you to prevent your ideas from spreading. The occupation knows what they are here to do, and they just hope that the smoke screen they keep kicking up will prevent you from seeing the truth.

The truth is, the race, gender, and economic wars we are in are skirmishes in a greater war. Black people don't really need to hate white people, women don't have to hate men, nobody has to do any of this stuff. But for the power grab to succeed, they need us to continue fighting with each other so we never target the people pulling the strings.

The power grab taking place is one that's happened many times before, in many different ways, as countries in history have devolved into totalitarian states. What's unique today is the battle is taking place in the world's biggest forum, and the first of its kind: the internet.

Battle for the Internet

The internet is a clever tool. In the early days there was a saying "the Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." (John Gilmore) This still holds true today. It is almost impossible to completely extinguish an idea on the internet. The internet is a hell of a thing.

The battle for the internet itself I think has mostly been ceded by the opposition. But it was a fruitful fight for them, with many casualties. Copyright law was weaponized as a censorship-cudgel that paved the way for future censorship. It was based on the plausibility that surely a crime as bad as infringement must justify a network of tools to remove items from the internet.

The internet nerds out numbered and out smarted those who tried to disappear things from the internet. The Streisand effect was coined, as many elites slowly learned that the more they tried to manipulate the internet, the worse it would get for them.

Organizations that tried to "game" the system as they used to with traditional media learned quickly that 4chan could out-game them in every way possible. Moot became Time Magazine's most influential person in 2008 thanks to his "not his army." Mountain Dew's new flavor, decided by the internet, ended up being a toss up between "Hitler did nothing wrong," "Gushing Granny," and "Fapple."

By 2010, it would almost seem as though the nerds had taught the world a lesson. Do not anger the internet, we are bigger, more organized, and smarter than you.

And that message was absolutely received.

What followed was a counter attack that is still in progress today that is overwhelming and wide-reaching, and may look like the final blow that ruins the free exchange of ideas forever.

Male Speech, Conservative Speech, White Speech… Hate Speech

The first and most obvious attack was an ideological attack. The internet cells of people who disagreed and launched the measures of the 2000s and 2010s tended to group themselves along particular ideological lines.

To prevent their power, they must be disbanded and made unable to communicate with each other.

Hordes gaming internet polls and amplifying Streisand events cannot take place in any meaningful way if large groups of people (men) are unable to coordinate and communicate.

It was already culturally popular to hate on men, thanks to decades of groundwork placed by Marxists and feminists in schools and public forums. So it makes sense that /r/TheRedPill was one of the early pioneers hit by the hate speech brigade.

Reddit was hellbent on removing unsightly elements from their website, and had gone through a number of test runs, removing borderline material involving children, which was a defensible position to take, but later moving into simply censoring ideas that were counter to the new narrative.

And that narrative was that criticism of groups was the same as hatred.

It was an easy line to blur. Men had no public allies. Anybody willing to be honest about the world around them was now labeled a “misogynist.” When they got cancelled from their friends, jobs, and lives, they had nobody to turn to, as other men saw the warning and quickly aligned themselves with the right side of history.

The phrase /r/TheRedPill was blacklisted on Reddit as a whole. Mentioning it would see your comment silently erased, as an attempt to prevent new users from stumbling upon the ideas we espoused and ultimately to prevent us from changing minds. Later, Reddit fully quarantined the sub, to make sure it was invisible to search engines and make it difficult for even members of the sub to access it.

Of course, criticism is not the same as hatred. But that didn’t matter. It never needed to make sense. It never had to stand up to scrutiny. The point was to repeat the word “hate” enough times that the group inherited the attribute of “Hate Group” by association, regardless of the truth.

And it worked well.

Once society fully swallowed the idea that masculinity was a synonym for hatred, it was a small skip over to conservatives and eventually whites.

I needn’t give a full history of the attacks on conservative values (though maybe I will in a long-form book at some point) but the blueprint was the same. Conservative values became hate, and eventually espousing the ideas was hate speech.

Pro-life? You hated women.

Pro-family? You hate gays.

Don’t want girls and boys competing in the same sports? You hate trans.

Don’t want illegal aliens to vote? You’re racist.

Don’t want open borders? You’re a racist.

It wasn’t hard to rebrand conservative values as hatred, the path was already paved and only required small tweaks from the anti-male movement that came before it.

The next step was to rebrand racial identity as hatred. And it really didn’t take nearly as much work as I expected. BLM reared its ugly head after an isolated shooting, and it became publicly acceptable to call for the killing of whites on the basis that the only racial identity enjoyed by whites is one of supremacy and hatred.

There’s method to this madness. As evidenced by Reddit’s actions, and mirrored later by Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, and every other social media site, the idea was simple: as long as perfectly acceptable positions can be framed as hatred, there is ample justification for the removal of these elements from the platforms and away from public view.

And it worked well.

Build your own Platform.

The argument bandied around after each wave of censorship is probably familiar to you. “Build your own platform.” It’s not censorship, it’s not an attack on free speech, it’s just capitalism. You can always just build your own!

This was an effective argument because it embraced the position of the right, who generally are strongly in favor of capitalism. If Twitter won’t let you do it, then just make your own. Why is that so hard to do?

There are a few hitches to this, however. And we will see that a number of companies worked in tandem, with antitrust and anticompetitive behaviors.

Gab is probably our poster boy for exactly why you can’t build your own platform; at least, not a twitter-sized platform.

Gab was a twitter clone whose main claim to fame was that they embraced free speech. If it’s legal, we will host it. (*except porn)

As a coordinated attack, they were shut down by every avenue that would lead to a capitalist being able to start their own platform.

  • First, their hosting was denied and seized. They were forced to find new hosting.
  • Then their domain was denied and seized. They were forced to find a new domain registrar, twice.
  • The domain registry fought them on their TLD, they eventually gave up on gab.io and settled on gab.com.
  • They were kicked off Google’s Play Store due to “hate speech” even though you could just as easily find hate speech online through their own Chrome Browser.
  • They were kicked from Apple’s App Store, which makes it impossible to load on an iphone because you cannot easily sideload apps onto an iPhone that are not on the app store.
  • Paypal & Stripe banned them, so they could not take payments via paypal or Stripe.
  • Visa blacklisted the owner and his family, so they cannot do business with any credit card merchant on the planet, period.

This is an abridged history, but you get the point. Building your own platform, as it turns out, is pretty well impossible unless you toe the line. Though at this point, there’s a pretty good chance competing with the big guys will find yourself with similar issues, hate speech or not.

Start your own Credit Card.

So where does that leave a new platform? Well, after having to implement your own tech infrastructure and having no way of deploying it to user devices, you still have no way to get paid, and therefore cannot afford to run the platform.

So what’s next? Start your own credit card.

I say this in jest because I recognize exactly how much work that would take, and there is still one major problem with it. Since these companies all operate with impunity and in anti-competitive ways, I fully expect this scenario:

In order for your credit card to work, people need to accept it. To do this, you need to create the tech infrastructure, get yourself licensed as a Money Transmitter in every state (which is a multimillion dollar+ venture), and then get yourself partnership agreements with the various merchant services companies that exist. There are a lot of them.

Once you do this, VISA will inevitably threaten the merchant service companies that if they do business with your new card, they will pull out. This, of course, would be suicide for any merchant service and so you would lose.

Crypto is an option that many saw as an answer to these problems. I don’t think it’s got widespread enough adoption to be viable, given the critical mass you need to reach with “normies” to be successful.

So how fucked are we?

This entire essay seems a lot like doom and gloom. And in a way, it’s hard to spin it as anything but. The truth is, we’re in the shit right now, and there will be plenty more casualties before it’s over.

We are witnessing global power plays in real time, the outcomes of which will have long-lasting effects on all of our lives. What can we do?

I don’t have an easy answer for this, but I do have some ideas.

Critical mass social media sites seem to be running the show right now. Many people have enjoyed a growth in following that was virtually impossible in the days of conventional media. Getting thousands of people to watch a movie or a show was an expensive ordeal. Advertising dollars, gimmicks, actors, etc.

Today, a guy with some good ideas and some ingenuity can amass millions of followers. Each thing he writes gets exposed to hundreds of thousands.

This is giving away a level of exposure for private citizens that the media companies absolutely abhor. They let this happen on their watch, and they’re hell-bent on fixing it.

However, I think the social media companies are overplaying their hands. Reddit is currently on a crusade to remove all wrong-think, and in doing so they have angered even the communities they “allowed” to stay. As of this writing, there is a mass exodus leaving reddit and never turning back.

And I’m working on one of them.

TRP.red and Forums.red are the life rafts I constructed to give my small corner of the internet a place to communicate when all else fails. Forums.red (as of this writing) is about to launch into beta in the next few days, and we will see just how much we need Reddit.

I think the answer to this problem is not to gather your followers on a mainstream platform, the answer is the internet in the late 90s: Decentralized, specialized, and numerous.

We may be currently unable to harness the power of big payment to create larger than life platforms that slingshot us into the sun, but one thing we can do with our current infrastructure is create millions of specialized forums and websites, each with dedicated topics and communities, sharing information between us in a Hydraesque-manner.

Centralization is the wrong answer.

Separate, specialize, and overcome.

Use accounts on major media sites to push people to your specialized sites. But do not live there. Do not depend on it.

Make sure your followers have an independent way to communicate with you (and you them).

They cannot attack all of us, and they really can’t if each of our properties is inexpensive to run and operate, and requires little in the way of donations or funding.

I recognize the irony in saying this as I developed TRP.red tribes as a means for centralization. I offer the TRP.red Tribes (and soon to be forums.red) as a meeting place, safe for male communication and thoughts, as a means of decentralization from the mainstream companies. But the dangers are still apparent if you gather on my site instead of others, so I will be soon implementing some big changes that will help with the decentralization of the internet:

Tribe Portability. I will be adding an opt-in only feature for users to be able to share select data with the tribes they follow so tribe leaders can keep in communication with their followers even in the unlikely event trp.red closes.

Direct Communication. I will be adding the ability for Tribe Owners to communicate directly with followers, without the need for followers to come back and constantly check the website.

Forums.red. As I mentioned here, forums.red’s beta is about to launch in the next few days, and we’re very excited to see how you like it. More updates to follow.

Stay Safe

-rps

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Post Information
Title Just How Fucked Are We?
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 604
Comments 403
Date 09 July 2020 04:13 PM UTC (2 months ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/704757
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/ho5vdj/just_how_fucked_are_we/
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[–]∞ Mod | TRP Vanguardbsutansalt[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (11 children) | Copy

Start your own Credit Card.

Bitcoin

Paypal & Stripe banned them

Bitcoin

Visa

Bitcoin

My point here is that if the govt doesn't squash these authoritarian facist shitheals in Silicon Valley soon, they're going to quickly find people adopting a deregulated economy sooner rather than later. Anyone who understands basic economics and how the reserve currency system works knows that's not good for the US in any way, shape, or form.

The simplest way to fix all of this is start yanking 230 protections from platforms who are censoring content like editors at a publisher. Pull a thread, delete a subreddit, shadowban a conservative, fine, you're done. Do it just once and every idiot on your platform that harasses someone, posts cp, or is guilty of "hate speech" ends up coming out of the company's ass from that point forward. Do that and you'll fix the censorship so fast it'd make your head spin.

[–]PlebsFelix154 points155 points  (17 children) | Copy

History has been one big march through the shit.

One long story of the people attempting to claw their liberty from the powerful (the King, the State, the Church... whatever the case may be)

The average man has always been considered disposable by society.

But don't get lost in the sauce. We are living in an age of unprecedented freedom and opportunity. Regardless of what shape the Inquisition is currently in.

"Culture is not your friend."

Live accordingly.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers0037 points38 points  (9 children) | Copy

Idk man, the average schmuck is having a shittier time right now that any time since WWII, at least in the West. I really don’t buy this line I often hear from libertarians that “this is still the greatest time to be alive”. I think in fact we are the frog that has been boiled slowly and we just have become numb to how poor the psycho-social quality of life has become in western countries. It’s soul deadening.

In a sense, yes, much is changing and churning, and there are other parts of the world that are doing better. However, I cannot unsee that America is experiencing entropy on many levels and that does not make it a great time. Fascinating time, sure. But fuck what a headache. I mean just look at the females these days. I had a strong impression last summer at a rap concert. I looked around at all the 18-25 year olds that mostly populated the crowd. Bratty, big attitude girls dressed like literal hookers. Drugged out, lost, confused, weak young men. And I had the thought “this generation is gonna burn”. Just look at the riots based on false narratives. Does that look like a happy healthy society to you? Does this look like a happy healthy society? I see no possible way to answer in the affirmative, and therefore it is simply not a good time to be alive in the West. Could be worse. Enjoy a few more halfway decent years. But there’s much more shit coming down the pike, guaranteed.

[–]theredsperg11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

am i really reading that right? since ww2? nah mate, that's just your fucking balls stuck on pussy.

this reply is red pills problem, stop dramatizing the fuckedness of humanity, its for you to sift through the shit.

stop going to rap concerts too to make judgements on 18-25 girls, these are the same girls that 10 years ago would have been a part of the hyper masculine rock music scene, shit changes. hiphop as always had the ho life a part of it.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers009 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Look I know many of the external conditions since WWII have been steadily improving, but markers of social health have been dramatically declining for the past 10-15 years. And the under 40 age group have significantly worse prospects than their parents. And the overall atmosphere is of a terrible morale. So yes I think the lived experience of many right now of the overall social health of our society is in the worst place since WWII. During the 60s we had a strong and competent gov that acted as a backstop to the madness. Now nobody believes in any institutions.

I’m not trying to paint a poor us story. I know it’s our responsibility to sift thru the shit, and we have many things to be grateful for regardless. But the prospects for the future are not good broadly speaking.

[–]returnsanity3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

More and more I'm starting to agree with you. Based on the insanity of this year, I'm thinking we're less than 50 years away from a major schism. Say flyoverland USA gets sick of the coastal dwellers huffing their own farts and trying to control everyone else with their bullshit, and so they say "That's enough - fuck you, the horse you rode in on, and all 12 of your genders. This country is OVER" and then suddenly there are two USAs and Civil War II looks inevitable.

Or maybe a couple states break away, refusing to toe the line anymore, or thinking they can do things their own way instead of bowing to increasingly crazy demands.

Normalcy bias tells us this would never happen, it's impossible - but just look at the events of this year. The powers that be are playing a dangerous game, and it just might unravel on them someday.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers003 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh we are much closer to that than 50 years I think. I think we have a major political event this decade, or 2035 at the latest. Maybe not full blown civil war, but secession or attempts, or some constitutional crisis in the capital.

And you nailed it with the normalcy bias. That’s exactly what keeps us from thinking it can happen. But history tells us differently. Of course it can.

[–]Sumsar010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Imagine a civil war in the US. Everyone with weapons are pretty much on the same side. I would not like to be a skinny "socialist" hipster then. But then again who would ever.

[–]republican_heretic1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I was saying before COVID that we need another crisis. I don't want another crisis, but we've had it good for too long and that's made us weak and made us fight about the dumbest shit imaginable.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers003 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

We’re too divided for crisis to unite us at this point. Crisis would only cause further division and collapse. COVID is a good example. Any other type of big crisis it would be the same. It’s fucked man, we can’t put Humpty Dumpty back together again.

[–]Truth_Dry0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ken Burns' documentary on the Vietnam War might change your mind about this being a shittier time than any other since WWII.

We have much for which to be thankful: seat belts, airbags, crumple zones, unleaded gasoline, four-stroke motors, asbestos-free homes, unleaded paint, the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, the Endangered Species Act, the fucking civil rights movement, hepatitis vaccines, HPV vaccines, the list goes on.

I'm grateful.

[–]theguytheguy1000-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

ahem.... its called progress... God you're such a bad bad misogynist.

[–]glumbum26 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

That's always the greatest point I think of when confronted with concerns about society - is there some other time that I would have preferred to be alive? Thankfully, no.

The world has always continued to improve for the majority of people. People suffer everywhere. But society also grows everywhere.

About the Inquisition - I think it's always been there. I don't think there has ever actually been a "past" to harken back to, because culture, unlike your friend, is always moving forward no matter what is happening. One day, this is the problem, the next day, whatever came along to usurp it will be orthodox enough to require change. The only difference now is that people are connected enough to be able to have these kinds of conversations.

[–]returnsanity-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

is there some other time that I would have preferred to be alive? Thankfully, no.

Think about that for a moment. In Medieval Europe, if some shithead wronged you, you could rough him up for it and the matter would be resolved and you would either be friends or enemies.

If some degenerate harassed one of your female relatives, you and the boys would group up and teach him some manners right quick.

Compared to the snowflake society of today, it's kind of hard to argue that that was not a better world in many ways.

[–]Sumsar010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And if he was a noble he could fuck your wife the day you married her and you could do nothing.

[–]Whitified2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Do not seek to convince yourself that men as a whole has ever been as fucked as we are now

[–]FinallyRed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nice quote

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[–]awakenedspirit158 points59 points  (19 children) | Copy

Me too man

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[–]Enlightened_Chimp29 points30 points  (4 children) | Copy

Realizing that the world is insane and that there is not a damn thing you can do about it is pretty freeing. Might as well just laugh at the craziness and enjoy the show.

George Carlin puts it into words well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9CjBtv7j78

[–]silent_dominant4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Once you figure out that your nihilism doesn't have to lead to depression you are truly free

[–]MerryVegetableGarden1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I honestly think the world would be insane regardless of who’s running the show.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers0019 points20 points  (12 children) | Copy

Unfortunately being on the sane side puts me at odds with all my libtard social striver friends. They’re all fucking propagandized and I feel like I’m in the goddam twilight zone talking to them. Smart people, fucking indoctrinated. Makes me feel like I’m going insane ironically.

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[–]1scissor_me_timbers0010 points11 points  (6 children) | Copy

Brother, you don’t have to tell me, I’m balls deep in that type of meta analysis stuff. Their midbrain/social brain tribal thinking (as a deeper evolutionary need) overrides the forebrain critical thinking. The forebrain gets put to use rationalizing the irrational in the interest of the midbrain. Because the emotional and social belonging needs are deeper.

All these libs see themselves as de facto on the right side of history and they are protagonists, “the good guys”, etc. And it’s funny because under an actual atheistic frame, none of this makes sense, even tho they’re all atheists.

The new religion won’t last tho because it’s value system is fucked and anti civilizational, therefore it will be wiped out memetically or have to memetically evolve.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

and /u/throwlaja

There's a book called "The intelligence paradox: Why the intelligent choice isn't always the smart one". The author divides 'intelligence' from 'smart' and 'common sense' and in one chapter, how this equates to 'religiosity'. Common sense/instincts are what humans are born with to help them handle day-to-day life in hunter gatherer life (the majority of human existence ). 'Smart' is high common sense. 'Intelligence' is separate, used to handle novel problems that were out of character for that context (today's examples: technology, math, and most relevant, systemic brainwashing). Throughout the book, he discusses how the brain that gave a human the best chance of survival and thriving in our old context (superstition, groupthink, emotional, etc) and lesser intelligence (novel problem comprehension/solving) is the very thing that makes you susceptible to religion and other dangers of the modern world. At the same time, intelligence in the modern world, the same source that created our advanced society, makes you susceptible to creating BS from nothing (ie social justice and all the -isms), overthinking, degeneracy, and unhealthy choices. Why the left wins against conservatives, etc.

The take away really is the intelligent create the technology and logistics that helps us thrive, but also the 'intelligent', yet clueless useful idiots that support social agendas that the intelligent elite push towards the masses. They use their intelligence to make the harmful causes more efficient and powerful (harming themselves without realizing it) The masses on the other hand, using primal thinking, just follow what they're told because that's what made you successful in the tribal days. They fall for bread&circuses and TV bs, group think and techniques used to further the harmful agendas.

The author Satoshi Kanazawa gives no fucks about political correctness. He discusses gender differences, racial differences, everything and is by the book and is blacksheeped for it, explicitly stating he does not care of the data offends people. Going only where the data takes him. Here's a little piece by him that will give you an idea.

While you're at it, read:

Curse of the High IQ by Aaron Clarey (underdog manosphere OG)

  • How intellect affects your relationships with people starting from grade school, why you may have trouble relating to people, and why society doesn't seem to make sense. He has other good books, a blog, was a top writer at returnofkings in its prime, and has a vblog on youtube.

The World Until Yesterday by Jared Diamond (author of Guns, Germs, and Steel)

  • The author has personally lived among several isolated hunter-gatherer tribes for YEARS and reports back how it was and how it compares to modern society in regards the food, sex, romance, crime, revenge, law, celebrations, social dynamics, discussion topics, religion and its origins, how often people speak and why, war, EVERYTHING. Not just some evopsyche armchair theory, but the closest you'll ever get to how we were thousands of years ago before civilization. Mind blowing.

Cubed: A Secret History of the Workplace by Nikil Saval

  • The evolution from Industrial Revolution to the White collar office. From 'taylorism', and managorial class fuckery, to the very beginnings of men and women working together and why Human Resources was created because women joined, women joining the workforce spiking infidelity, the rise of women and why, hourly pay to salary, the history of the office, cubicle, and the skyscraper, architecture revolution, why accounting started, everything. Mind blowing.

These three books mesh very well together.

[–]russian_writer2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dude, you’re 100% right. Just want to add that by destroying traditional values, modern society don’t give anything in return. As an atheist that was raised in orthodox christian family I can compare how much happier was I when I was religious, and now as a grown up man I am striving to have a family, a house, a dog, own business, following traditions. Yeah, sure, Christianity makes NO FUCKING SENSE by itself, but it makes quality of life better. “Traditional“ way of life lowers stress and anxiety and the modern way is an endless ratrace and unfulfilling consumerism.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The older value system is not just better on the individual level, it’s better at the group fitness level which is what actually matters. Sure, point out how you’re more happy living a religious and/or traditional life. But what I was getting at is how there’s no future for this new value system. It corrodes society, it doesn’t sustain it. So it will wipe itself out essentially. I mean that’s what this red pill sub is about, is showing how the new worldview erodes the social fabric by destroying the ancient healthy relation between the sexes. Feminism plus emasculation. It’s not just the shittiness of what we have to deal with now, it’s that it erodes one of the foundational orders of our civilization with nothing functional to replace it with.

Also I disagree that Christianity inherently makes no sense. You might just be looking at it wrong. I’ve certainly found it much too premature to rule it out.

[–]returnsanity1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't worry, they'll lose, and history won't be kind for it. The silent majority grows really tired of the madness. 2016 was merely the first sign.

[–]Redpiller770 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Like DFW said there are no atheist is the adult world. Everyone worships.

[–]returnsanity0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Have you talked to scientists that really believe they have all the answers?

When was the last time you talked to a vegan?

I believe that you meant to say, humans need something to feel passionate over. Whether that passion is based in faith, logic, science, or drugs makes no difference to the result.

[–]returnsanity0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Birds of a feather.

Why do you call them friends?

[–]dkirkpatr33 points34 points  (23 children) | Copy

I have to agree can not wrap my mind around liberal thinking. What are they even trying to achieve. After taking power I can not invision where you go from there. Its seams they will take over a country that will be beyond repair.

[–]mrmaika1030 points31 points  (13 children) | Copy

They’re chumps that have been duped into believing a “virtuous” fantasy without considering the repercussions of what they propose.

[–]dkirkpatr21 points22 points  (12 children) | Copy

It makes me sick it seams they promote mediocraty. Seam to despise hard work and being a achiever.

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[–]glumbum29 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy

The honest truth is that they've lost the plot. Nobody is sure what they actually want (on either side of the aisle) and they just parrot party lines instead of leading. My parents and many family and friends face the same issues you're describing. People do not appreciate how much advantage the US has by being a place where people want to come and the subsequent brain boost we have incurred - and consequent brain drain that many peoples home countries have experienced as a result.

I don't really look at the current "conservative" movement in the US something sustainable. The attitudes that limit high skilled worker entry are already having a positive effect on home countries (think India) and will eventually cause America to fall behind a little bit, which will of course cause a rebound and an improved appreciation for a more inclusive high skill work environment. I think society is just overcorrecting over and over again and it will eventually settle back into rhythm.

Put differently, hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. Which inflection point do you think we are at?

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[–]glumbum21 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I sincerely hope so, because I need to decide whether and where I would want to raise a child, live my life etc. and I can already tell that the values of America are going to be difficult to teach because they are so in conflict with a lot of current policy and rhetoric towards everyone and everything.

I think one of America's best traits is our ability to weather storms. Hopefully this is the kind that forces us to build a stronger house even if it means we need the roof to blow away first. Good luck with your visa / work permit bullshit.

(Direct quote from a relative - "we all send our smartest children to the states and the government just wants to piss on them over and over." You can only do that for so long.)

[–]returnsanity0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don't really look at the current "conservative" movement in the US something sustainable. The attitudes that limit high skilled worker entry are already having a positive effect on home countries

Legal immigrants built this country, and legal immigrants continue to help build it.

What does not help build it is large numbers of cheap labor imported to suppress citizen wages.

[–]destraht1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Serious question, why are so many conservatives against legal high-skill immigration?

It sounds like you have to toe-the-fucking-line. I'm not for anyone being in such a highly controlled situation. It sounds like you can't even imagine how not being an outright leased bitch might negatively impact the de facto economic freedoms of other Americans. You might think that I'd be for you being our economic bitch since it means that you are unable to be wilding out on us. Well I'm not. Obviously you think that being afraid to blink wrong while being paid handsomely is worth it. I wouldn't want any native person to be expected to toe-the-fucking-line as you must (anywhere in the world). The more of you that there are, the more that it becomes the backdrop for all of the other economic activity. The same goes for the immense expansion of private prison labour.

On a related note, all of that CIA meddling out in the world is coming home to fuck America big time. The US is starting to see some real colour revolution type shit happening now. If you fund something, push it, use it, etc then you'll have more of it and it will come to bite you in the ass.

So no I'm not supporting your voluntarily fucked position as a beta test for how to have the rest of America on the short leash. They'll merely cycle through carrots and sticks until larger numbers of people are in your fucked position.

Well I suppose that I'm in a better situation than you because I emigrated from the US to enjoy both greater economic and personal freedoms. You might not have had the luxury. I'm assuming that you are making good choices for your life and on a personal level that is fine with me, but after there are many of you's out there in such a highly controlled position then it is undesirable for the reasons that I mentioned. I'd feel better about the high skill labour being more towards the free side of things than in your situation. Do you think that Tesla or Einstein would have been sent back a mere two months after deciding not to be a corpo bitch? No, they were allowed to free float to find their own way. You are so fucking controlled that you wouldn't dare taking a risk with a smaller and less stable organization. So you try to think big, but end up being little. Tiny in fact.

[–]RealMcGonzo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Serious question, why are so many conservatives against legal high-skill immigration?

In a nutshell, Big IT has been using Indians to keep wages down and offhsore IT jobs. And it is accelerating. I'm in US Tech. Two levels up in my org, guy runs a total team of 50 people. 45 (90%) are Indians. 2 of the 5 white people aren't tech - just "project managers". The three white male programmers have had stagnate salaries for a decade. I would not advise anyone starting out in the US to pick a career in IT. My larger org has made it a mission to raise the number of people working in India from 17% to 35% this year. They are bringing people here, training them and sending them back to India as fast as possible. I support the original H1B purpose - bring the very best high skilled people here. But the program has been horribly abused to keep wages low. Setting it up so it's not a lottery but only the highest paid people get in means we get the more needed candidates while maintaining opportunities for the locals.

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[–]Quo2105 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Their purpose are the actions themselves. They are unable to think beyond the target.

I've talked with some. The answer to "What are you going to do after you achieve X?" (Something insane along the lines of kill all men) the answer is usually like: "Live happily all my life because all the hate is gone!"

They have no idea, no rationality, no foresight, no concept of consequence. It's pitiful.

[–]KillYourInnerLoser2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

What are they trying to achieve? I think this quote from The Dark Knight sums it up best:

"Some [people] just want to watch the world burn".

[–]beginner_2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

After taking power I can not invision where you go from there.

They don't have a vision. They are just puppets so that the white middle-upper class can be destroyed or at least controlled.

If you want to be full paranoid or conspiracy theorist. Climate change hype is also great to stay in power (I don't deny it's real and not human made but I don't buy into the solar/wind "gaia hippie" fantasies, nuclear it is). Why is it great? (well bad for us) Because it destroys money. Everything just gets more expensive because power (as in electricity or fuels) gets more expensive. So people have less money making them more dependent to have a job and less time for "bad think" and acting on it. On top of that once it gets more extreme with energy prices, mobility once again will be a privilege of the rich. And the less mobile you are, the less job options you have and the less options you have the less they can pay you. It's ingenious. + adds to the polarization of the people.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers001 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

That’s what leftist cults always do. I’m actually starting to believe the root of the problem is not merely human weakness/degeneracy/stupidity/folly but actually demonic. And I don’t mean that figuratively.

[–]BeyondFlight0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I know it man. I would like to think that I can think, but when it comes to the left it just doesn’t compute.

[–]vwowv0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

At the core its not honest faulty idealism. It's nothing more than beliving what will give them the best sourced stream of dopamine pops. No liberal is deeper than the dopamine supply chain. They think and manipulate with their lizard brain to maximize their source stream of feels. Nothing more.

[–]dkirkpatr0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes but a long and dedicated campaign has developed a lot of followers If Biden wins along with taking both houses we might be seriously fucked. No matter how much of a nothing they ae on a personal level.

[–]returnsanity0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Easy; in their minds, they think they're fighting for the side of right, where the history books will hold them up high for being virtuous.

They're actually just mean spirited rubes that want an excuse to act like shit towards people, not realizing they're being used to provide bread and circuses to Rome in order to keep things exactly as they are.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Honk honk

[–]EcloVideos4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I get that feeling every night, it takes a ton of acceptance to not want to reach for vices to forget all this is happening. Self improvement has to be your vice maybe? And by your I mean people in general

[–]silent_dominant0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You have to internalise the idea that, in the end, you're on your own.

You also have to be able to live with that idea. Once you've accepted that, things become easier. You will still interact with people: friends, partners, colleagues, but you should never put yourself in a situation that you depend on them.

At every moment, you need to be able to cut ties with anyone in your life, and not feel like less of a person because of it.

Work on yourself, be the best YOU, that you can be, and you'll live a good life, no matter the times

[–]Thorusss122 points123 points  (13 children) | Copy

The only solace I take, the more they hide the redpill, the better it will work in the real world in 1on1 with women, because their reaction to masculinity is deeply instinctual.

Less competition is the only light I see in this otherwise truly dark situation.

[–]1empatheticapathetic16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

Less competition but significantly more resistance from other men.

[–]returnsanity1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Only dangerous if you're facing a mob, and that only tends to happen if you're not being smart about risk and consequence.

"Resistance" from other men can be pretty hilarious. Mostly they huff and haw and whine, while wondering why their overt support doesn't translate into lays.

[–]phibetared31 points32 points  (5 children) | Copy

Rammstein has a video for you called "Rosenrot". Enjoy getting laid right before the brown shirts and the betas come for you. :)

[–]uebermacht11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Rosenrot oh Rosenrooot..
Tiefe Wasseeeeer sind nicht still..

[–]rf900rt2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Rammstein is based af.

[–]functionalghost3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hmmmm I watched it (love the song) and read a few interpretations but I'm still not seeing the link here ...

[–]phibetared3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The "hiding" of the redpill will make it easier to get laid. That's good. But the brown shirts and the angry betas will be ready to attack you at the first false claim of rape. Or that you said something bad about her. So when, like in the video, the young cute girl points her finger at you - the hordes will attack and you will be finished.

btw - the enticing girl in the video? She was 14 when it was filmed. :) See, you already viewed child porn (they will say)... enjoy the pitchforks....

[–]1scissor_me_timbers006 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dude it’s not even satisfying long term to use with women. How many guys of the under 35 age bracket are gonna be able to use red pill knowledge to even have a stable family? These hoes are broken in this culture. Not to be shitty or anything but even your solace is not a long term solution. Most guys will eventually grow out of the gaming pussy phase and look for something more like family and lineage.

[–]returnsanity0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Find the rare virgin or near virgin that hasn't gotten wrecked by the carousel. Yes, it's hard, yes, it is possible. AWALT is a general term but, like most slogans, is an oversimplification of reality.

[–]Redpiller776 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

What's the point if the pussy only gets worse and worse.

[–]pigdestroyer1878 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, it used to be deeply instinctual. Not anymore with the advent of the birth control pill and especially the Depo shot, women's hormones are completely fucked up and a lot don't even go through the menstrual cycle anymore. Men are feminized through our lifestyle and diet and women are emasculated through their diet and medication.

[–]Ash_thearcher40 points41 points  (23 children) | Copy

At least I could respect it if another country came in and physically took us over and beat us fair and square. But what we are witnessing is a truly great civilization just crumbling for no real reason. Our enemies are sneaky and our leaders are weak and are just letting it happen! It would be like the leader in a marathon all of the sudden stopped running, sat down, cut off his foot, and started punching himself in the face. It’s truly maddening to watch and to experience.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers008 points9 points  (20 children) | Copy

And all my libtard friends think it’s all trumps fault. Sure he’s an ass but we have a fucking leftist cult growing in this country that my bougie annoying friends are blind to cuz they listen to NPR. Makes it even more maddening. My friends fucking suck now.

[–]ProjectFuckboy16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

Trumps owners are the same as the leftists cult. Don't be fooled into thinking he'll make or has made any real change.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh I’m not fooled into thinking he’s a solution. Disagree on the owners part tho. That’s a total misread. But you’re absolutely right he can’t turn this ship around, and never could. I’d go so far to say that we’ve been past the point of no return for a decade and it’s just now becoming obvious.

[–]destraht3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I love NPR! On occasion I'll be out of touch with politics for a month while something big is happening. I'll just turn on NPR to find out what the enemies of America are pushing. Due to the distracting and disjoint nature of driving a car they need to keep saying the same-fucking-thing over and over again. Its the easiest pick up ever.

[–]StarchRunner1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy

Look up some lectures by Yuri Bezmenov. That's where we're headed.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers002 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy

Brother, I’m fully aware. Im deep down the rabbit hole, you have no idea. I’ve been on the pipeline from red pill to deeper red pill to black pill to clown pill and rapidly approaching the god pill (the final pill).

[–]StarchRunner1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

You got a reading/watch list suggestion?

I'm still plowing through Spengler and Douglas Murray.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers002 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Adding to that, nothing could be more obvious to me at this point that leftism is fundamentally a religion for secularists, just as Marxism was in the last world era conflict, and Jacobinism was before that during the French rev as a sort of proto Marxism. All atheistical political ideological cult religions. All fraudulent and massively destructive.

They are the precise equivalent of Old Testament idolatry. Just as ancient Hebrews forgot the true god of creation and turned to their own fictional statue idols, that is precisely what our societies having been doing during political modernity (last 250 years), with the growing forgetfulness of god and replacing god with political cult worship that always ends in hellfire on earth.

Current “liberal progress” leftism is the direct descendant of these previous leftist cult religions and is equally deceptive and destructive. The godless find themselves without purpose, in an existential dead end at the end of History, and turn to progressivism (Leftism) to fill this hole and give meaning. Not only that but it’s fashionable, just like idol worship was fashionable in the Old Testament in the times right before catastrophe.

So no, I’m not closely examining the god bill like a fucking Xanax to dull my senses. The god pill is the most hardcore red pill there is. It demands even more duty in the face of an even worse diagnosis of the times. Part of me remains deeply agnostic. But the more I look at what is happening in our society and across the west, and compare it to previous eras of political and social catastrophe, the more I sense the literal, not metaphorical demonic at the root of it, which implies a Good/evil worldnview

[–]TheMiddlePeak1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I follow along for the most part on the theory with some heavy reservations, the feeling that only one side of this religious equation is being looked at. The role of the corruption and malignancy of the aristocracy in provoking this purge from leftist religious realms during the french revolution and the role of cold brutal dehumanization from the capitalist class for reactionary 1900s movements. There is the corruption of the masses, and the corruption of the hierarchies. Just as there is an ideal of the masses and an ideal of the hierarchies. I feel like your post only focuses on one.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers003 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Oh I’m aware, and if I were to elaborate my theory more, it does encompass and accommodate what you’re saying. But it’s good you observe that and bring it up. I’m under no illusions about decrepitude and corruption of the Ancien Regime in France at the time and the doubts about Christianity following the enlightenment. All old orders have to die, and the order in France had to die at the time.

Likewise with Marxism, it has very good critiques of capitalism, but what it proposes in its stead is catastrophic. And just like the enlightenment preceded and influenced the French rev, the Marxist rev was preceded and influenced by the discovery of darwinism, throwing more doubt upon the old belief systems.

In fact really you have four major thinkers of pre marxist rev modernity which influenced the further crumbling of the old European order— Marx, nietzsche, Freud (dubbed the “masters of suspicion”), plus Darwin.

I am a Spenglerian so I see the corruption and collapse of the old order as inevitable and therefore necessary. It is the life cycle of a civilization. So I totally get your point and it’s valid. However the secular ideology cults that seek to replace God and tradition are maladaptive meta narratives. At least the traditional order which upheld society for centuries was adaptive. Believe in religion and traditional norms or not, the reason it survived was because it was an adaptive belief and value structure. Natural selection operates at this meme level too. Non patriarchal societies never produce higher civilization and therefore die out. Patriarchy is a social technology, or a meme, within a memeplex. Whether you believe such a law comes from god or not, it is adaptive and creates higher group fitness to compete against other civs. The same law applies across many beliefs and norms in tradition and religion.

The problem with the leftist cults is they go against the grain of Nature. Nature is not equal, therefore the equalist leftist cults cut too hard against the grain and produce maladaptive societies. Some equality can be increased by going along the grain, such as the way a middle class has been created by capitalism, which harnesses natural forces properly.

I know that’s a ramble but that gives a broader gist of some related concepts which tie up some of the seeming loose ends or contradictions.

[–]TheMiddlePeak0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Spenglerian

We agree quite a bit then. And that list of four is great. Darwin destroys the masculine clockmaker, Nietzche declares his time of death, Freud reduces the psychological and ethereal to baseness that would be exploited even further by his nephew Bernays and other propagandists. I'll be honest, Marx is not that familar to me.

And I believe this cycle you reference happened in India twice between 600 B.C. and 150 A.D. The first crisis which also had its corrupt priestly and military aristocracy and suicidal reactionaries is what gave birth to Buddhism as the "Middle Way" to come out of it. Bringing reforms, while having structure. That whole thing imploded later down the line, with the re-emergence of the priestly Brahmin class. The conservative class, which would later lead to the downfall of India to Islam, as their isolationist policies left the country more and more backwards technology and dynamism wise. Then again, we survived unlike the Persians and the Eastern Romans.. Though from my understanding that has more to do with the great mountain ranges separating us.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers000 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Oh I’m glad you’re Indian and understand this stuff man, I’ve taken a huge interest in Vedanta/Hindu thought and the Gita, and it influences my thinking a lot. We are undoubtedly in a Kali Yuga. I spoke to an Indian man once who said it’s believed that the modern Kali Yuga began during the British takeover, so 1700s to present, which i found interesting because it aligns precisely with political modernity and the enlightenment and leftist religions and the general movement away from God and tradition.

I also believe the supreme creator as depicted in the cosmic vision in the Gita’s climax is indeed likely to be a genuine vision of God, who would be the same as the God of the Bible and Quran as well.

Nietzsche, Marx, Freud, and Darwin in my opinion dont in fact completely destroy the possibility of God, they just destroy our previous notions of what God was. God is still very possible and my shifting of God conceptually has been helped very much by the Gita vision of the primordial creative element, and the Brahman consciousness field. Perhaps this is just shifting the goalposts and god is still fiction but I do sense the reality of the demonic in the way the left peddles falsehood cloaked as moral progress, and is in fact corrosive and destructive. That is precisely how the father of lies (Satan) is described in the New Testament. And of course the Old Testament has the precise parallel of the idol worship.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Those two are great. That’s already black pill territory. Nietzsche is unavoidable too. Check out the dark enlightenment subreddit.

Ultimately I suspect more and more that godlessness lies at the root of the present situation, and it is basically hopeless. Well, the fundamental brokenness of the US and Western Europe (“The West”) is unavoidable. This will become more and more apparent between now and midcentury, as the unraveling really begins to pick up. I think we are right around the corner from a quickening of this pace. And it’s all the more dire because China only grows stronger and bolder. So we are basically kinda fucked. Then it’s just a matter of if you find the god pill convincing, not as an opiate fiction, but as a recognition of the reality underlying our condition, and as a compass to guide your future actions.

[–]SavorThePill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Godpill is definitely the final and ultimate. It always was...the beginning and the end.

Elliott Hulse and Roosh V are stalwart in their commitment to disseminating Godpill perspectives and it's glorious to see.

[–]MunchinCooters0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

There’s a cult on both sides and they both suck

[–]1scissor_me_timbers002 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Na. You could say the “cult of personality” around trump, but that’s not at the level of the actual ideological cult of wokeness. It’s simply not a symmetrical comparison. But the right definitely puts too much hope in trump. He’s a paper tiger.

[–]MunchinCooters-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

There’s people dying right now cause of trumps mask stance. People dying for a charismatic leader is as cult like as it gets

[–]1scissor_me_timbers001 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Ehh, that’s a stretch. It’s an indirect connection, it’s not like Jonestown. The cult of trump is no different than the cult of Obama. That’s a more symmetrical comparison. There’s nothing on the right which is comparable to the ideological cult growing on the left.

[–]MunchinCooters-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

It’s a fairly direct connection: people who don’t wear masks put themselves and others at risk, increasing the amount of people who die from the virus. Both sides of the political establishment these days are cult like and extremely corrupt.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m not talking about the professional political class. Yes they’re corrupt. But when talking about an ideological cult, I’m talking about the current strain of leftism is quite cult like in what it’s morphed into. There’s nothing symmetrical to it on the right. The cult of personality around trump is more like the cult of personality was around Obama. Those cults of personality are not at the same level of cultishness as what’s going on with the woke, social justice “movement”. Nothing on the right equates that, although one may take shape as a reactive defensive mechanism. The left is waking a sleeping giant.

[–]returnsanity1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Alternative perspective: Rome was so powerful and so renowned, no single outside enemy could defeat it. Only internal decay, decadent, and complacence could lead to downfall.

Nothing lasts forever. The cycle is unbroken, and continues regardless of our sensibilities.

But I don't think the liberal noise has anything to do with that. Happy peasants are easy to rule. How do you think is the best way to keep people distracted if they're not happy?

[–]SavorThePill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There's definitely interference from outside forces and there has been for years. The espionage game is always running and, in modern/postmodern society, is centered around messaging.

[–]dopexile36 points37 points  (7 children) | Copy

I used to care about topics like this, but now I've just accepted that I cannot control what happens. These days I eat popcorn and enjoy watching the decline.

The nation is rapidly devolving so if you care what happens then yes you are screwed.

The other day I came across the most ironic headline "Seattle Police Chief Asks Why Black People Keep Dying In The 'Black Lives Matter' CHOP Zone". Watching cities burn to riots while the police sit back, don't do their job, and don't protect property rights is almost comedy to me at this point.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers004 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

And NYT leftist lunatics get their lib senior editor fired for publishing a Tom Cotton op-ed calling for federal troops (during the peak of the riots), which 58% of Americans agreed with. Not only that, the top military brass suggested they would not follow orders if federal troops were attempted to be used to quell the anarchy.

Think about that. 58% of polled Americans liked the idea of federal troops quelling things at their worst. And yet mass insubordination by the generals would likely not carry this out if ordered. And an NYT senior editor can be marched out of his position for signing of on an op ed arguing this case.

[–]Modredpillschool[S,M] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Please edit your comment to remove the slurs. No, I'm not kidding, but this is Reddit's rule.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers001 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Done. So that’s their rule for quarantined sites?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

One of the many, many rules.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good god. The leftist march is actually getting concerning these days.

[–]SavorThePill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The American military has been a joke since the Korean War.

[–]1LowCreddit22 points23 points  (7 children) | Copy

The only way to take payments now is crypto. The problem is that the few people who are willing to give you money don't want to deal with that business unless it's weed. The only way to reliably host a platform is to not cross that line. The US regularly raids cabinets all over the world. The only way to stop it is to agree to become a confidential informant. If you deny this you will be bullied into submission or irrelevancy. The only good thing is that it is relatively difficult to cross that line for now.

The powers that be have realized that the Internet is a mistake. Giving ordinary people the ability to access instant and easily searchable knowledge in picture book and video format without first gracing the halls of the ordained has led to a schism in The Narrative. The Narrative is the shared story of a people. It is the true source of power. It is of, course, only truthful by accident from time to time. All of the boots on neck you have seen lately has been the ruling class trying to put the cat back in the bag. It will be interesting to see if they can do it.

[–]destraht0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

The US regularly raids cabinets all over the world.

One pretty ok way around this if you aren't too big is to find a setup that allows you to remotely install your own VM using a KVM + video setup. Then install your Linux OS using LUKS encryption and choose a pretty dang big password that is probably too huge to be manually input but rather is pasted. So every time that you need to reboot you'll have to manually bring it up via the remote KVM. Then use a program that is able to send a private token to a service to demonstrate that the service is online. You could use two different services to reduce false positives. You then view any service outage as a possible compromised system (since they could simply take the system down and then install a back door on the unencrypted boot partition). You then use warrant canaries to communicate with the community.

[–]1LowCreddit1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

That only works for people who avoid crossing the line but don't want to play ball either. The feds are more respectful of their stuff. If the feds don't like you, they literally walk in with a dozen guys, take everything in your cabinet, and leave. They aren't there to investigate anything. They are there to fuck with you.

[–]destraht1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Just rent the setups. A lot of people have survived this way.

[–]1LowCreddit1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

And what do they do when a convoy of SUV's show up with armed men who literally unbolt those setups and take them? Who will rent to you?

[–]destraht1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well that is inconvenient for sure but you should be making offsite data backups and to have a provision script that can do 99% of setting up the server. Obviously they will kill a large business that needs to have dozens of servers, but it would be barely an inconvenience to someone only needing a few, assuming that the provisioning and backup systems are tight.

I think that its clear though that we're in an age where you shouldn't try to go big. I know people who like the Social Network movie dream of absolute capitalist success in an open market. Its just a fantasy. Its important to stay small and nimble and cater to niche markets. I think that we're entering an era where people will be increasingly recognizing the value of smaller networks and the need to fund them. That may be like "donate crypto" or having a personal connection with people whom can slip you a few hundy here and there because they like what you're doing.

Back in high school for example I had a few people slipping me twenties to pay for the dedicated phone line of my BBS. You're not going to become traditionally rich this way but if you are providing necessary renegade services to people then you have positioned yourself in the center of the social fabric. There are always ways to profit from leadership (either with pussy, money or other non-denominated benefits) without betraying anyone.

[–]TheH1dd3nFear0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Crypto's growing alright give it time... or there is Chinese or Russian financial credit companies.

[–]g111442 points43 points  (19 children) | Copy

Somebody needs to write a post on how TRP comes to terms with "enjoy the decline".

A post on here was written about the riots, and how it's a shit test we shouldn't give attention too. Nothing really wrong with the thoughts there, but while we're off building our little slices and navigating the world, it's continuing to get worse. The response to the riots, the "unfairness", etc. will be UBI and something similar to Denmark's 45-50% income tax rate. And that may be only the beginning before restitution.

How can you be red pill and build an empire while disregarding sheep that don't matter if those same sheep are pushing government policies on you that will definitely effect you? What is the line where focusing on yourself is putting your head in the sand?

Moving east doesn't really seem like the answer because you're trading the stuff here in the US for authoritarianism. Not sure what the answer is besides maybe we should be trying to preserve what we have here in the west

[–]irishluckk4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Cut the power from the electrical grid.

[–]ahackercalled4chan10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

imagine the chaos that would ensue if people didn't have power for a week

[–]4oic5u2o6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy

"enjoy the decline" shouldn't be taken as a commandment. I choose not to read too much into that. I don't see a decline. I just see the swing to a more liberal society. I see opportunities to be tested by society. There have been other shitty times in history but men have always come through. This is no different. Think for yourself and do whatever the fuck you want to do. Edit:shouldn't*

[–]g111414 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy

It’s downvoted, but I wish I could just worry about myself. Yes, we’re in less mortal danger than any other time in our lives. But it’s also a time when you can’t just homestead and bounce to a new area like 300 years ago.

UBI and the tax man is a new boogeyman we haven’t seen yet or really know what will look like, but it doesn’t look great. Add in Big Brother and facial recognition and more government overreach and race relations and it’s not necessarily a good time

[–]4oic5u2o5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

I agree with you. Things do not look good at all. The only difference in the way I think is that I see this as a pendulum and we are on the upswing side of the shit. Eventually it will swing the other way. I hope. We are very close to a 1984 future but it will swing back before we truly get there. It always swings back.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers002 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You’ve got your reading of historical patterns wrong. It’s more like societies go thru a life cycle and we are in deep entropy like a dying organism. Yeah things will swing back but that’s after major upheaval not seen since the civil war. This is going to be bigger than the 60s.

[–]destraht2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Decline has never felt good to me and being nearly forty years old from California I've experienced tremendous decline. I rather enjoy being in a previously bombed out economy that is getting its shit together fixing old pipes, roads and side walks. For me at least it took years to fully scout out and then to commit to a particular truly recovering economy. One of the great joys of my life was actually arbitrarily repairing an old public road for only about $550. Nobody got in my way, few even really cared. I got it done and now I have a decent road (for what I spent). It feels good. Government is lame and boring.

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[–]Praeda1816 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

War is sweet to those who have not experienced it.

[–]throwawaycunt19977 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, sure, but if you’re a Machiavellian, agree and amplify does the trick.

I can always just support BLM ironically to slay some protester pussy. I can always just pretend to be borderline gay so if a girl asks, I pull the ole’ “why don’t you bend over and find out.”

If you’re clever, the swords of the enemy can very well be made into your own. Play a sucker to catch a sucker. And clown world is making it just so much fun and easy; you can be whoever you want to be.

[–]Whitified1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What is the line where focusing on yourself is putting your head in the sand?

The line is when they tell you not to care about what's happening (example "its just a shit test")

[–]Sumsar010 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Please dont compare this to our income tax. While it might be better lower throwing it out like that fails to take a Lot of things into account. 1) our tax system is transparent without hidden tax, like healthcare and the need to pay for education. 2) we are mostly a monoculture 3) we have probably the most hard run social sector in the world 4) Denmark is something like a top 3 country in the world to do business. We have low cooperate tax and few rules.

[–]g11140 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not the one that usually makes that comparison. UBI and higher taxation in the US will be sold to voters as "look at Scandinavia"

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil94 points95 points  (76 children) | Copy

The US is completely fucked. For the past 10 years the media and entertainment industry have been normalizing "Lumpenproletariat" violence. Remember this Riana Video? How about this one Beyonce video where she BLMs a city. How about this Black Panther Superbowl Special? Hmm what's the common theme here?

Oh yea violence against whites. That's probably it.

Coincidence?

What you need to understand about "these people" is that they absolutely worship their celebrities, are highly emotional and easily programmed top down. The elites control the celebrities and the celebrities control the Walmart Prole Mass. That's why it's called the MATRIX because people's reality is programmed top down.

If you want to understand their methodology and theory you should watch G Edward Griffin's Video from 1969

The Communist Position On Blacks, 1928*

  • Racial differences between Americans was the weakest point in cultural fabric
  • Blacks offered the best revolutionary possibility
  • Communists would tear cultural fabric by teaching blacks they.were "oppressed" by "colonialist" forces.

  • Communists would forge a broad coalition between blacks, other minorities & White revolutionaries: civil rights grps, peace grps, students, unions, etc. The coalition would be used to escalate the race war into a class war.

Here's what going to happen next. Keep in mind I have the best track record of predicting things here. I gave y'all a heads up on the WuhanFlu back in January.

Things are going to die down for a bit but boy are they going to flair back up again bigger than ever right before the election. Also expect the lockdowns to be used selectively for political purposes the way they are being used in Israel now to quell the anti annexation protests. Censorship is going to rapidly escalate so things can go according to plan and their isn't a thermidorian counter revolution.

In conclusion as yourself this question: is civil unrest and "normalization" conducive to being an elite pussy slaying Alfa top dawg? Or is now an excellent time to leave the United States?

[–]destraht16 points17 points  (25 children) | Copy

Also pretty ok from Griffin is The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve. Its a book about how Shmooish bankers fucked over one of the best things that ever happened. Then that leads into the Titanic being swapped with the Olympic conspiracy the following previous year and then right into WWI as US funding had been secured. That whole mess was meant to be unresolved into order to create Rothschild's Jewish ethno-state dream.

America has been hallowed out. The only real question is if the technology cache be used to implement the long dreaded nightmare world or if the country will properly reinvent itself after a controlled collapse.

I bought new curtains today for the garage.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas5 points6 points  (24 children) | Copy

The Federal Reserve was a necessary creation because a modern banking system needs a lender of last resort so that liquidity crises dont become solvency crisis. Prior to FR you had banking panics every decade or so, so severe that the private sector (JP Morgan in particular) had to keep stepping in, drying up their own reserves, just to prevent a cascading effect.

Not everything is a conspiracy, understanding economics clarifies this particular one.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers004 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

What’s crazy in our era tho is how unprecedented the economic territory is. Both in fiscal and monetary policy of our gov. It’s so fucked.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

It is unprecedented, but the fact that we haven't had a second Great Depression in almost a hundred years, considering how frequent depressions used to be, tells me we'll make it through okay. QE4Ever

[–]1scissor_me_timbers003 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

No way man, the bottom comes out of this thing eventually. By mid century for sure.

[–]destraht0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don't worry though, as he mentioned we have a lender of last resort. /s

[–]Truth_Dry2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thank you for this explanation. I've never heard the usefulness of the Federal Reserve put like that.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Amazing what you pick up reading a lil history :-)

[–]StarchRunner0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I hear the Fed is unaudited though. Not sure how true that is.

Anyway, unfortunately for world improvers, each and every solution tends to have its own seeds of destruction inborn from the beginning, many of which can be understood beforehand. It's the nature of the materialistic universe, where utopian ideologies are merely fevered dreams of theories oft unburdened by realities until implemented.

Unfortunately, much of humanity is insane or just insanely apathetic and regardless of negative results will happily try the same thing over and over again until the wheels come flying off. Then act shocked at disaster.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

The Fed gets audited every year lol

[–]StarchRunner0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, that's my confusion though. Especially bills like:

The Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2015 (H.R. 24) was a bill introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives of the 114th United States Congress by Congressman Thomas Massie (KY-4). It included proposals for a reformed audit of the Federal Reserve System (the "Fed"). The Senate version was introduced by Senator Rand Paul (R-KY). (S. 264).

and

The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System has stated that "the financial statements of the Federal Reserve Banks and the Board of Governors are audited annually by an independent outside auditor."[7] The bill's sponsor, Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX), countered by stating that the present audit process exempts the Fed's "most crucial activities".[8]

[–]Project_Zero_Betas-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dont rely on Ron Paul for monetary policy exposition. Remember: QE only brought LT yields down by 1%

[–]srdnlsnw0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

How is there ever a banking crisis if banks never lent more money than they had? The whole thrust of the book is that the fed only has a purpose because of fractional reserve banking. And pumping more currency into circulation doesn’t fix anything, just kicks the can down the road.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

How is there ever a banking crisis if banks never lent more money than they had?

Actually as far back as 1789 banks were lending out approx. $10 for every $1 in specie (read gold and silver) they had in their vaults or on their books. This is why history is so important ☝️

[–]srdnlsnw0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Right. That’s covered in the creature from Jekyll island too. It basically is a history book (even covers early monetary history like Rome, pre revolution colonies etc) the problem is fiat, or not sound, money. The fed simply lets banks get away with fractional reserve banking, a fun twist on fiat. The real solution is if banks want to use a dishonest, contract breaking practice like fractional reserve, they shouldn’t be bailed out when they inevitably go under. Allow the free market to keep banks honest. and use government for what it was intended, to enforce contracts between its citizens.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

If you think allowing economic depressions to occur every decade or so is good for society, that's your prerogative.

[–]srdnlsnw0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

I think you’ve set up a false dichotomy. There is an option that includes little or no depressions, and that option is sound money, backed by metals, and no fractional reserve banking (or any other breach of contract/fraud).

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Thats all impossible in a modern economy thats predicated on growth. Metal backed currencies are inherently deflationary. These are absurd solutions in the 21st century (idk what “sound money” is supposed to mean but Im guessing it doesnt involve quantative easing)

[–]srdnlsnw0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Sound money just means money with something backing it. Not fiat money. Fractional reserve banking, printing press, the discount window, it’s all ways of creating more currency artificially, with no actual production of value. It’s inflationary, and the US has been spinning out of inflationary control for a long time now. We can’t kick the can down the road forever. The stock market is at all time highs artificially because purchasing power has actually dropped despite advances in tech etc. the government gets to spend the free money it creates, and the American public pays for it through the hidden tax of inflation.

[–]destraht0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

The bank schemers were orchestrating the crises specifically to create the need for their central bank. JP Morgan was thought to be the richest man in America but when he died it was discovered that he was merely a pawn of the Rothschilds whom owned most of his wealth. You mistake the weather for someone blowing very hard into your ear. Now that we've been trained up properly the Federal Reserve pushing a button is more important than the seasons.

JP Morgan also owned the White Star line which owned the Titanic and Olympic. He had them swapped out due to the original Olympic having been in a bad accident. JP Morgan was the original Bond villain. He was the premier Rothschild agent in America during a time when direct old European money meddling wouldn't have been accepted. He only got by because people thought "he is our bastard". The Rothschild interests manipulated a situation in which he could be become the savior. Its similar to how Bill Gates went from being a bastard to a saint within the period of ten years, just in time to offer centralized globalist solutions.

The Rothschilds in particular have been contriving issues and providing solutions for a very long time now.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

The bank schemers were orchestrating the crises specifically to create the need for their central bank.

The banks were secretly plotting for runs on their deposits every ten years? LOL this is absurd.

[–]destraht-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

The little banks just go along for the ride as are the merely mechanical economists merely existing to service and rationalize the system. Also, noted that the premier Rothschild agent himself JP Morgran always had just what was needed to save the day. As you mentioned, it happened more than once and he always got his money back and its safe to assume profit as well. Outright controlling the nations currency (at that time money) was vastly more profitable than merely lending.

That immense WWI industrial capacity was built up in America under the previous non-Fed system. What came after was a series of sugar highs from printing money and getting women into the work force, first temporarily and then permanently. Under this system its all been hallowed out and there aren't any more fancy tricks left.

Say something meaningful or consider the conversation cancelled.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You still dont understand bank runks. 🚫

[–]heiloreo8816 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don’t forget that slut and putting children in cages last superbowl like she herself isn’t eating children.

[–]pigdestroyer1874 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Check out Yuri Bezmenov, a former KGB agent and his videos on subversion and demoralization.

[–]arakouzo7 points8 points  (16 children) | Copy

Where is a good place that is not the US?

Not just fantasy theory about how cool it would be to stick it to the US and succeed elsewhere. For real. Where should people be looking to move, and why those places? And what is a good and practical way to liquidate your life and do so?

[–]trppr2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

If you really want to stick it to the US you'll have to renounce your citizenship, because the US is one of the few countries that collects taxes from their citizens who are not residing in their country of origin as residents for tax purposes. I think the only other country that does this is eritrea?

[–]0x07ADF0900 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think the only other country that does this is eritrea?

Correct (to an extent). Eritrea collects a 2% income tax on their citizens abroad for the right to enter/leave the country on a no-questions-asked basis. The country has had a massive outflux of refugees due to regime and poverty issues (some estimates put it at the highest on Earth in terms of percent of the population), so any income they can grab hold of is needed. If you left the country as a refugee, as long as you pay your 2% income tax abroad you'll be allowed to re-enter/leave without you or your family being thrown in jail.

Source: am US Diplomat living/working in the Horn of Africa

[–]destraht0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, if you renounce citizenship they'll still have you on the hook for I recall ten years after exit. My information is a bit old so someone correct me if its even worse than that now. It can't be that easy to just pay an exit tax and go on your merry little way. Oh no.

Sometimes the best way to destroy a farce is to ignore it.

One easy tip that is applicable to broke normal people is to find a foreign bank that is under some light sanctions. Meaning that you can't wire directly to that bank because they aren't doing the US tax form and submissions nonsense properly (that is required by treaty of most liveable countries these days). Then find another bank that isn't under sanctions and move your money there. Then withdraw that money. Of course the Man will know about that flow so it isn't a perfect solution, but this at least puts one on an interesting educational path.

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Personally, my goal is to make as much money as I can before I turn 35 (23 now) - then move to the Netherlands, and perhaps more specifically, the Amsterdam area.

I visited the country this past winter and it is hands down the best place I have ever traveled to (I've been to Ireland, Scotland, England, Malta, the Caribbean, and I've also been all over the United States).

The people were all extremely kind and most of them seemed very healthy. Not once did I feel un-safe, nor lost. Public transportation was commonplace and cheap. The food was fantastic and the beer was great. And the women...don't even get me started on the women. Dimes abound. I saw more HB10's in one bar in Amsterdam then I see in one week on my college campus.

The only downside I can see to moving there is the lack of individual freedom when compared to that of the US. But...considering we're on a fast track to losing what little freedoms we have left in the US anyways I don't really consider it a loss.

My only concern with this plan is the potentiality of the local peoples becoming minorities in government and sharia law making it's way into actual legislation in the EU. I consider this an inevitability given current migratory trends and European birth rates.

Edit: I've also heard Denmark is really nice, and I'm hoping to travel there in the next two years to do some recon.

[–]acoltismypassport18 points19 points  (3 children) | Copy

Sounds like you definitely have oneitis for Holland. I've been all over the Netherlands, and minorities and no-go zones abound there just like they do in the UK and many other continental European countries. Women are generally butterfaces, as they same the share Nordic western European genes as women from the British Isles: pale, fugly, generally unattractive. Amsterdam has dimes because it's a capital city - all the good looking people are found in capital cities. The Netherlands is also flat as a pancake and everywhere looks the damn same. Again, I've been all over the country several times. Some very nice places, but topographical variety doesn't exist.

A secondary city in Japan or Seoul seems infinitely more preferable, the only downside being (slightly) less ubiquitous English language skills.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ha, you may be right about the oneitis. I loved Amsterdam in it's entirety. I struggle to think of something I didn't like about it. Each to their own I suppose.

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I'm glad you brought up Japan. That is another country I'd love to travel too. I've got a buddy who has been teaching English there for about two years. He raves about it. Though my main concern with living in Japan would be it's legal system.

From what I've read/heard you can be arrested on a whim and you guilt is assumed until you prove your innocence. Moreover, you can be held in jail for months at a time without seeing a judge.

Even worse, the nations conviction rate is 99.9% - if you are charged with a crime, you are more or less fucked.

I suppose no nation is perfect though.

Might just have to achieve FI and become a solitary woodsman in Alaska. That seems to be the ultimate MGTOW. /s

[–]ibmj-5 points-4 points  (1 child) | Copy

> moving to a country with essentially no white people

No thanks...

[–]glglglglgglglglgl2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why are you getting downvoted?

[–]1scissor_me_timbers001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sharia won’t dominate entire countries, they’re not even close to that. De facto segregation will just increase (no go zones).

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

I really like this guy because he's very practical. Now's a good time to binge his channel

[–]SalporinRP1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thanks for the link. What are your thoughts about South America? I only ask because I love Latinas and speaking pretty decent spanish.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I lived on Chile for a couple of months and liked it a lot

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for linking that channel. I've spent the past day binging his content. Great stuff and I love the mentality.

[–]Watashiwagod1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

After visiting Japan awhile back I realized the country and people are wonderful. People there just seem to use common sense. What I mean by this is I love how clean the country is and everyone is very respectful. People wait until everyone gets off the trains and its just the little things that really speak out to me. The downside is work, they are long hours and pay isn't as good as the states. Hoping one day I can land a good paying job there or save enough and move there.

[–]drakehfh3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you have notices recently, there are calls to de-fund police in a lot of states. This is how a revolution starts.

Your predictions are right. There have been years in the US where some dark forces have tried to start a civil war and they won't stop until they achieve it.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

Who are “the elites” that control Hollywood “celebrities” if not celebrities themselves? Whats the actual chain of command?

[–]Redpiller772 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The people who make celebrities famous.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Clarification questions are gay if you know how to use Google you should be able to figure out my sources.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I just wanted you to go on the record and say “Rothschilds” but AOC and the Obamas also work.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm going to go on the record and say: your mom. She controls Hollywood by performing the rusty trombone.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I love how you linked to UD as if theres people in this sub who dont know what the rusty trombone is. (But I will go on record in saying Id never in a million years would wish that upon my worst enemy, or a plate for that matter even if it is my mom)

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This community is 25% Indian, unlike the son of a professional trombonist they are unfamiliar with this terminology

[–]1scissor_me_timbers001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Things will flare up again at some point no matter what. If trumps wins again it’s gonna go bananas. Even if Biden wins, there will be some shit they’ll go bananas over. These radicals have tasted blood and want more. And unlike the 60s, we don’t have the strong competent institutions anymore to be a backstop for the craziness. All our institutions and leadership are crumbling. The control mechanisms on the craziness are very faulty.

[–]StarchRunner0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yuri outlined the stages, he just didn't really take into account if the USSR dies and subversion has to fester continually on its own. Anyway, US breed of subversion wasn't born in the USSR at all, but a slowburn by Hollywood as it mass media took greater and greater control over people's lives. Still an interesting watch although he was playing up for the conservative audience of the day (Reaganites).

But I know the end of this story. If someone wants a hint, Detroit used to be called "Paris of the West". It's been many decades of democratic rule and someone else is to blame it seems.

One of his big points was that a person poisoned with these SJW ideas early in his youth is basically impossible to rationally talk out of his indoctrination. Facts can be dismissed, he will reinterpret what's put right in front of his face and contort to support his ideology.

This is why leftist agitators were always discarded (lined up against a wall and shot) right after a takeover. Their usefulness is done and from that point on they'd only become a enemy/liability as their dreams for utopia and power aren't realized.

[–]TheStoicCrane0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Are you of the opinion that Black Marxist was influenced by Communism regimes that seej to destroy the US from with? With Covid-19 abound how can people leave the States when 1st world countries are leery about letting Americans entering their borders?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

BLM are Lumpenproletariat they are incapable of comprehending Marx, so by definition they can't be Marxists. Imagine calling yourself a Marxist and working for Open Society Foundation unironicaly. Plenty of countries are accepting flights from the US just not Europe.

https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/where-can-americans-travel-right-now-a-country-by-country-guide

[–]TheStoicCrane-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

If they were in Soro's back pocket couldn't they in theory be educated by or at least learn from people like Frantz Fanon and be incited into action by actual Black Marxists?

Considering how Blacks in America have been fetishized and commodified under the umbrella of Capitalism it only seems natural for them to turn an eye to contrarian systems.

Black Capitalists to me are oxymorons. The race was treated as a commodity for expendible labour and now their life values revolve around acquiring commodities under the same system that devalued their worth as humans.

[–]urbanfoh1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The race was treated as a commodity for expendible labour and now their life values revolve around acquiring commodities under the same system that devalued their worth as humans.

Pretty sure capitalists would not discriminate when accepting slaves lmao

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

There are very few actual black Marxists. Frantz Fanon seems like one of them. If someone could sit down BLM and push Frantz Fanon on them and pivot them away from Soros (who's built on Karl Popper an anti Marxist) then I guess yea.

[–]5baserush0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Are you military intelligence?

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy

For a place that claims they are RedPilled, there sure isn't many Q followers.

[–]5baserush2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Interesting. I only keep up with what I see on twitter

[–]ahackercalled4chan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

100% agree. i fully expect more riots in the streets as we get closer to Voting Day.

[–]Praeda187 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

The answer isn’t the internet from the late 90s; the answer is for people who want to coordinate, communicate, and share their (now demonised) conservative to meet up in person, privately. TRP used to have a very firm stance on “texting is for logistics only, always say less than you need to”. Why would (should) this be any different? Clearly the powers that be don’t want wrong-think, let alone competition that threatens their platform with the potential to expose themselves for censorship; that would be terrible news for investors, and ergo bad news for the bottom line.

That said, with conservatives meeting up privately, in their own small groups, with online/digital communication kept to a bare minimum, provides a platform for freedom of speech. Donations can be accepted in the form of cash and/or consumables such as coffee, tea, biscuits, beers, water, but most importantly: boys. The over-inclusiveness & accessibility of the internet is, and has been, destroying communities from within by people whom would otherwise have never become part of said communities in the first place.

Word of mouth travels quickly, and you don’t stand around, waiting and watching your plants grow the second after you’ve planted & watered the seeds. Pair this with the lack of social ability & initiative of the youth and suddenly you’ll find yourself surrounded by like-minded people, having meaningful conversations without fear of losing your job, future, and/or your place/standing within society simply because you have a different opinion to what is widely accepted.

Organise.

[–]thedoctorwhokilledMJ2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Much easier said than done, but you're absolutely right.

[–]destraht0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

People whom meet up once or twice a week have a use for having their own funky forum to discuss things in-between gatherings. I hosted a BBS (Bulletin Board System) in High School at the very end of its era. My co-sysop went on to become a very top executive at a prestigious universally known company. I merely meandered but that is another story. So in high school we had this awesome dork community which communicated through our BBS. Its was a beautiful thing but then the Internet superseded it. One very cool thing about it though was the higher skill floor to be able to even access it.

In my opinion we need more local physical location-centric online communities. As a fulfilment of my vision I've begun the early stages of implementing my renegade speak-easy garage bar website that will be hosted out of the location. I'm in a funny country so I can do whatever. Its a culmination of twenty five years of programming experience, hostelling and experience with a wide range of social platforms. There is no way for it to go bigger, there is no path for going public. Its meant to serve me and my personally accessible community. I mean people whom I've touched, not some gay ass use of "community" which is just a bunch of strangers with some Venn diagram overlap.

[–]theguytheguy10000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

like the mafia, only make calls from payphones and keep it vague

"you talk to the guy?" "which guy" "the guy who owns the place we was at a couple weeks ago" "oh no I can't find him he's up north doing a thing with the other guy"

[–]1swaglordobama13 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy

To be honest, the pendulum is beginning to swing the other way. The internet isn't everything, and I think most folk share the views expressed in the OP, even though they might get shouted down online for saying so.

I have had many in-person conversations about this topic, and people generally agree that woke culture is toxic as fuck after they realize I'm not going to pop a tit if they express a controversial opinion.

If the answer is going back to the early 2000s style of niche, anonymous forums, then so be it.

As more people are exposed to the ugly truth of woke/cancel culture, more will turn their back on it.

[–]Whitified1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

more will turn their back on it.

But they won't do anything about it.

They'll never be as loud or radical as the progressives.

The progressives will get what they want.

The conservatives/Redpillers will continue telling you to stare at yourself, ignore what's going on.

Same old story. The sky is blue.

[–]FinallyRed0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

How do these conversations usually begin for you? Do you just bring shit up, say it how you see it and risk alienating people or do you approach it more tactfully?

[–]1swaglordobama0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

More tactfully, usually I say something like "America is so fucked up right now, and with the way woke culture is pushing people on the left away, my gut is telling me that Trump is going to win again in 2020."

This gives the other party space to say their opinion and show me where they are on the political spectrum without polarizing the conversation or alienating them. The key is to make emotional statements, not state absolutes.

In some (usually drunken) times, I have gone in with a more polarizing approach, but that usually just makes people angry / triggered.

[–]fokm5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Great post echoing the same thoughts I’ve been having recently.

Looking back, i really think the first shot fired in this modern day censorship war was google shutting down google reader. Reader was where you could visit a ton of sites using just one site.

I think RSS-enabled sites using a client like Inoreader is the way to go in the future. It solves having to bookmark things and remember to check them.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Indeed. I am most likely going to implement RSS on forums.red as a feature soonish. TRP.RED already unofficially supports rss.

[–]drkinferno725 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

If you're smart you'd jump ship to a whole new site like the donald did

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

:)

[–]PCM9717 points18 points  (3 children) | Copy

I think if shit hits the fan, these psycho communists will realize that they don’t actually want what it is they’re asking for. Western values will reign supreme and a second revolution would shortly follow. They’re already starting to see some of these things backfire on them like cancel culture. Time will tell

[–]010000101100001110111 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

How is cancel culture a sign of backfiring? Isn't cancel culture the shit that you should abandon and cancel those who thinks different than you?

[–]Isbjornsolo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's more that cancel culture will become a black hole and just swallow everything up. As at some point someone will be offended etc etc.
Then it's back to a blank slate. When men will start to create content again.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

They’re rousing a sleeping giant. People’s blood is starting to boil in opposition to the left and the ideological backers in power across the establishment.

[–]RaddiNet5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Regarding the Build your own platform, let me chime in that I'll be resuming work on raddi.net project soon.

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[–]IvyExcess0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

underrated comment right here boys. read this and internalize it.

[–]BurningOrangeHeaven8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

You only need to use one simple logic to see that the BLM movement is leveraging police brutality - which isnt even only against blacks - to further their own interests.

Asian immigrants come to the USA and make a life for themself for years now - how is it even remotely possible that people who start off with little to no english or cultural understanding end up in a better place than native residents here, and their kids often do even better. Lots of excuses are made but the fundemental problem i outline here is never answered. My own answer that black culture is what holds black americans back is dismissed as racist - funny how the africans i worked with used to say similar things and didnt want to be called black(grouped with black americans).

On reddit I've gotten called all kinds of things but I genuinely support equal oppourtunity - i think we are basically there already. These special focuses on black people are racist, special programs for women only are sexist (funny how they are only for good paying jobs often in management or office positions).

I think its already over though, the people who have the future in mind are far too few compared to the people who just hop on every hype wave. When you have someone trying to do wrong, plus women blindly supporting, plus many white people supporting out of guilt or some kind of misplaced sense of justice (police reform turning into all kinds of other shit) -what can you do.

This is a qoute i have saved from some book, i save many little qoutes that made me think about things, i believe it applies to our current situation:

He could not fool the sages and intelligent people, but so what? In every era the commoners made up the largest part of the population.

Edit: there might be some mistakes left, im on my phone though so just ignore them.

[–]Boxalin18 points19 points  (6 children) | Copy

You're right. There is no way to become independent of the banking system, the banks rule the world, literally. The only possible way to get our freedom is for a total revolution against the banking system. Political power must be seized.

Once upon a time there was a great country in Europe that did revolt against the bankers and did establish total freedom. But unfortunately that is apparently not your passion and not your life's work.

[–]Jazzlike_Contact4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Once upon a time there was a great country in Europe that did revolt against the bankers and did establish total freedom.

I straight up can't tell if this is sarcasm

[–]pigeon_exe11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

The ultimate redpills, at least look in to these and let them challenge what you've been told.

Go to Bitchute and search for

"The Greatest Story Never Told"

And

"Europa: The Last Battle"

At archive . org or com, search for A Last Appeal to Reason

[–]Boxalin4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not sarcasm. Your redpill journey is uncomplete until you understand these things.

[–]glglglglgglglglgl4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah if any country revolts like Germany did in the 30s the bankers will use the full force of their power from every other country to destroy it just as they did to Germany so every country will have to revolt and the same time or collapse

[–]Boxalin1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

so every country will have to revolt and the same time or collapse

Doesn't need to be every country, nor even a majority of the world population. People fight a lot harder if they put their soul into it. Very few ordinary people will put their soul into fighting for the current society than promotes, decadence, materialism, laziness, cowardice and maximum comfort.

A people united under the right spiritual guidance though will fight ten times harder and ten times more effectively. This is what happened the last time the world went to war in this conflict. The good guys were heavily outnumbered populationwise but still managed to stand their ground for six years. When a people realizes the connection between the world conflict and their own bloodline they go all in.

[–]glglglglgglglglgl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah all we need is like 5% of the population to revolt and the rest submit thats what happens in every revolution

[–]waterhead26x10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is what happens, when you are not think same way about majority's ideas even it is wrong. They will censor you and silence your existence on their platform even on real life.

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To add to this. This isn’t about right or wrong, this is about differing ideologies. Even here, we are pawns of u/redpillschool. He is the general. He is absolutely right that this is a war fought on the internet. Times like this require critical thinking. It’s not about right or wrong, it’s about which horde you choose to align yourself with.

[–]rickyroyal373 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

We're as fucked as you choose to believe.

[–]Flesh_Pillow54 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy

Sorry but most black people don't hate whites. That's ridiculous and outrageous.

[–]thetarget33 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

Of course not, but I also don't believe that was what he said.

[–]Flesh_Pillow52 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Any sort of victimhood repulses me. But I get you.

[–]Elliquin2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Except white people are victims of today’s culture. They shouldn’t wallow in it, but we should be aware of this. Personally, unfounded prejudice disgusts me more.

[–]Redpiller770 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I agree but try saying "black people suck" or "white people suck" and tell me there's no difference. It's not that they are victimized, it's that white people are considered to be those in power, and therefore it's socially acceptable to critize them or talk shit about them.

[–]Flesh_Pillow50 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Considered by who? Sjw have also have their flawed theories that lead them to cling on to a victimhood status. I see this as two sides of the same shitty coin. Both sides look at a minority of bad actors in the others 'group' and extrapolate that to the greater population and make baseless assumptions based of that. It's all whingeing and moaning.

[–]Flesh_Pillow50 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've heard black sjw say something similar such as; Try sending out CVs with a black sounding name vs a white sounding name. Tell me there's no difference. That's why I think chasing victimhood is just weakness.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not sure how that was the takeaway of what I wrote. Might try giving it a re-read.

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[–]Whitified0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

We should spread our ideas. Using manipulation and re-framing speech the same way the left does.

But then red pill will be your enemy. Just focus on yourself, remember? Everyone who hates you is just a "shit test"

The Right has all the tools they need if they wish to win the Left, but they choose not to time and time again.

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[–]Whitified0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

And I was just letting you know that your biggest enemy isn't the Left. It is the people you are talking to right now.

[–]hearse2237 points8 points  (11 children) | Copy

How did 4chan get away with being so anti-establishment but Gab got sabotaged to hell and back?

Was the creator just naive or what?

[–]Collegia_Titanica9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Containment board.

Plus, highly convenient, lots of glowies and shills there sadly :(

[–]rukken13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

4chan is completely castrated nowadays. Any promising sort of offsite/IRL "operation" that gains traction, gets deleted and you get banned. Any sort of raid also gets you banned. Start a thread about a specific youtube channel or thoughtcrime website (like TRP.red, other chans, Gab,...)? Banned. They pose no threat to the establishment anymore. On gab, men can cooperate and band together. Now that's what they don't like.

[–]WesternRattle5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think it's because Gab was trying to be a profitable site, whereas 4chan didn't. All Moot cared about was anonymity on the internet and free speech.

[–]brutalanglosaxon1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Gab still operational? Never used it before but just logged in today and it seems like it's still active.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Still there, but currently underfunded. You can subscribe to "premium" by mail-in check.

[–]desbest1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

4chan isn't anti establishment. When Gamergate happened everyone who talked about it was banned so all their users moved to 8chan. 8chan supported freedom of speech so much they got banned by Cloudflare.

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[–]hearse2231 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

It was supposed to be like twitter but without censorship. Kinda like how voat was supposed to be an offshoot of reddit without the censorship.

[–]5baserush1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

No gab was an extension that worked on every website to add a universal agnostic comment section, shitty news articles and propaganda would suddently stop being effective.

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[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Excellent. Archived.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Dude is way worth following on Twitter if you're so inclined.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I always wish these people would recognize that short-form tweets is the worst way to do long-form essays.

Like, somebody had to invent a threadreader website to glue together random tweets because it's not the right platform for it.

[–]2000wfridge8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Really glad you posted this

[–]RcskaSedd2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I don’t think it’s got widespread enough adoption to be viable, given the critical mass you need to reach with “normies” to be successful.

The issue is that we are not normalizing it. We can get paid in crypto.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Even with Red Pill men, the number who can easily get and transfer bitcoin is not that high. There's also a complication factor to it. Some who can, might not, because it's just a bit too much work.

It's the reason why microtransactions in games are easy, because you don't even have to pull out the credit card, you just click yes to google play.

The harder it is to make a payment, the less likely somebody will do it.

The good news is, you only need enough to run and develop the sites. But, when I said critical mass, I meant as an alternative to twitter.

I do come up with the solution towards the bottom, which is not to compete with twitter.

[–]RcskaSedd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well, bitcoin isn't really used for spending, but rather turned into trading. Dash would be the best approach to spend and transfer money.

Check this out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1tYAt1e9j4&t=26s

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Very fucked. Surrounded by a society that DYEL and is pumped full of soy. They deny reality and fill it with false boogymen.

[–]Pezotecom6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

Blockchain technology is the only way in which we can overcome this. The world needs descentralized, borderless and censorship resistant solutions.

Will it allow nazis? yes.

Will it allow feminists? of course.

Everybody should be willing to pay the price to share their ideas and be listened, and society will invent ways for it to be inexpensive.

I have felt many times in my life threatened, like in inception when you start to change things and people in the dream go hostile on you. And it's awful. But I came here alone, and I will also go alone. Let my heart burn as hot as it can while I'm alive.

Memento Mori.

[–]acoltismypassport7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

Let's be real here. Bitcoin, Litecoin, et al will eventually be commandeered in their entirety by the government. Despite existing for over a decade now, there's still a wildness to it and many unknowns. Give it a decade or two, and you'll start to see large scale caroms on BTC from central governments, with renegade 'cowboys' being rooted out at every stage. Then BTC and its simulacra will go the same way as all the currencies we have right now. Perhaps not the same way, but it'll happen.

I keep my investment in BTC in lock-up right now, just to see where it goes. I'll make changes when it is intelligent to do so.

[–]destraht2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Check out the Bitcoin to Bitcoin Cash split. Basically what is called Bitcoin now is not mathematically solid as it one was. It now involves miners agreeing that a transaction is correct. Segregated Witness (segwit) if you read just the name a few times should tell you that essential data that was essential to validating the correctness of a transaction has now been separated into an external location. This creates an initial path for a one day highly regulated and treatyfied Bitcoin which can be seized by official orders. One of the other tricks is making the practicality of doing small scale transactions cumbersome so that you instead use a faster clearing network such as the Lightning Network which is essentially just the same old shitty banks laying on and then settling up at the end of the day. I'm sure that they'll pervert the original intention a few more times but its already the known bad path. Once the future plausible known bad path became reality the larger banks and governments were able to have more faith in it. This was the reason.

[–]Pezotecom1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not just about the currency itself, it's the posibilities that comes with the technology. The crypto space moves faster than anyone can catch up with, and if you are right about it being slowly pulled towarda the government, it still means that more money and investments are going to go into BTC and ETH, allowing more things to be built on top of it. Can you imagine what you can do with the level of descentralization BTC currently has and the speed that, lets say, EOS has? as OP said, it will be so inexpensive to build descentralized applications that any effort to shut them down will also be futile.

[–]rukken0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

censorship resistant solutions

The only problem with that is handling illegal stuff. You can be sure some people are gonna post CP to shut it down.

[–]Jack0fDiamonds4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

I think your reaction to the chaos is more telling about how you feel attacked for being a grade A conservative than it is a warning to heed about censorship.

This sub is quarantined not deleted-you still post whatever you want, and you also have the option to totally leave and do TRP.RED but most of you are still here.

So in reality you're just whining about how you feel attacked for having your own viewpoints when everything in this sub was supposed to teach how not to give anything that is bullshit the time of day.

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[–]Jack0fDiamonds1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sure its a concern, but I see the community here complaining more than by taking unanimous action. You can A. Leave, B. Stay and whine about it, or C. Stay and continue to do the work here that you value and when shit goes down take a stand.

AND if anyone of you have any faith in all that we have learned here, Reddit itself has more to lose by making decisions on what free speech is allowed and taking down this sub, then you do by losing your place to congregate. All the moderators know this and they are prepared to act accordingly. So lets hold your fucking frame here and stop being butthurt that your beliefs and viewpoints are under more scrutiny.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Chess pieces don't start in checkmate. A wise man moves his pieces before they are.

[–]Brave-Snow4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Humanity is doomed imo. I don't see us surviving another few hundred years. I almost got expelled from my college last semester for sending the pic of the giant naked black dude to a groupme chat. They claimed it was "sexual harassment and severe bullying".

I do hope that enough people will see through this modern PC bullshit and will bring it to an end, but a guy can only hope....

[–]loox14905 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m pretty tired of “enjoying the decline” of the collapse of western civilization and free speech

[–]agoodcrayon37 points38 points  (31 children) | Copy

Welcome to the decline. Where communism and the new world order are slowly being established in the name of liberty and justice for all disguised as democratic socialism.

You want to know what’s going on in the US currently? YouTube Yuri Bezmenov and watch his teachings on subversion. This is happening globally but the USA needs to fall first and it will in 20 years time.

Many of the red pillers here just use it to game women. They won’t fight for their freedom. They won’t fight for their country.

Vote for Trump if you don’t want your last bit of freedoms removed.

[–]TemplesOfSyrinx12 points13 points  (8 children) | Copy

Checking out your comment history and discovering there's a group called RPC "Red Pill Christians". That's about as big an oxymoron as I can ever imagine.

[–]agoodcrayon2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

Cool bro, thanks for your comment. I hope your pride settles down and may you accept Christ as your Lord and Savior.

Jesus is the key to that void you always come back to. Keep that in mind bud.

[–]TemplesOfSyrinx7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy

Take a big deep breath, swallow the red pill and jump off the high diving board and in to the deep end. You won't regret it. You'll be free.

But holding on to the idea that there's some fairy tale afterlife, God, etc. - that's the biggest oneitis there is.

[–]agoodcrayon1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I don’t know even 10% of all the knowledge of the world, is it possible God is in the other 90%?

Why is the Bible red pill? Could it be that God designed men and women and our sinful nature brought us to where we are now?

Are you suggesting that the red pill is absolute truth for all of humanity? Will the red pill save me from mortality? What is death? What is the red pill?

Many red pillers try to fill the void with anything and everything but come up empty. Roosh V for example. So they turn to the God pill.

Hopefully, you get a revelation sooner rather than later. Nonetheless, God bless ya man.

Thanks for the comment.

[–]TemplesOfSyrinx4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm saying that hanging onto religion and the idea that there's a "God" or afterlife in order to fill a void that's missing in your life has extremely strong parallels with believing that you're in love and she's your one and only soulmate.

[–]agoodcrayon3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I’ve experienced things and miracles in my life that could’ve not been possible without it being God. And they were not just coincidences.

Maybe you’ve experienced them but didn’t recognize them, idk. To each their own.

[–]Suqat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is a group that has a complete lack of self awareness. It is really a waste of time debating with them however, they like the feeling of guilt (usually from a parental shaming or deficient relationship) that they then transpose to Christianity. This is also what happens with BLM and these other highly emotional movements, just without the metaphysical backdrop. Notice how all the focus is on sins and forgiveness (Instead of positive actions), the music is all sad and weepy, etc. Christianity is a mental bug that works because most people have chit relationships with their parents.

[–]chanandlerbong42024 points25 points  (13 children) | Copy

I used to think redpillers had enough capacity for rational thought that they wouldn't be retarded enough to think trump is good for america. Wow. You claim to see the world for what it really is yet are clearly just as easily manipulated and controlled as anyone else that you complain about.

[–]CanadianCamX57 points58 points  (7 children) | Copy

MAGA retards found TRP as a refuge after all their other spots got banned, They don't seem to realize its not Blue vs Red its Rich vs Poor. Pitting 2 senile old men against each other is all a show so the mega rich can laugh and watch us squabble at each other. Morons like him actually thinking Trump is looking out for them is honestly sad. What "Freedoms" will trump save? He won't lift a finger if it interferes with his corporate overlords.

[–]claykiller201010 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

They don't seem to realize its not Blue vs Red its Rich vs Poor.

This

This is how's it's been all throughout human history. The rich and powerful are the ones that have ruled the world.

[–]pigdestroyer1871 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Rich vs. Poor is a communist cop-out, you should know better if you're posting in this sub. People complaining about the rich (aka 1%) hoarding all the money and resources are the same as betas complaining about the Chads (aka the 20%) hoarding all the pussy. Work harder, educate yourself, be good with money, make good decisions, and you can become rich. Some of it is luck (being born into the right family) or (being born with good genetics) but for everyone else, it's possible to make the best out of your situation with finances or women.

[–]CanadianCamX14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

K good luck making 50 billion dollars working hard bro, i believe in you

[–]Ikar114 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

And also these people don't want to read difficult books these days, they just want to binge watch YouTube and draw their conclusions.

[–]destraht1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Trump puts America second (behind Israel), which is a lot better than the normal tenth consideration. He can't stop the implosion of America, but he at least cares. Someone savvy like him who cares on some level can steer the failing ship. I don't give a shit if he talks up the stock market for the normies. But oh noes his ego. So what.

[–]Enlightened_Chimp4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You realize Biden is just a liberal puppet right? He'll literally do anything the feminists and libs whine about. Dude has no backbone and no brain (quite literally - he has cognitive degeneration). He's said he's going to choose a female Vice President just to appease the libs. If he wins the election this country will decline faster than ever before.

[–]jammyjam505 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Anything but voting Trump, is legit bending over to get the feminism salami just a bit deeper in your ass. Without lube too.

The rest is low IQ noise for delusional confused walking and talking jokes.

[–]agoodcrayon-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Put the bong down bud. Trump is the only one that’s actually done something for AMERICANS and minorities in the past 20 years.

All this “division” and troubles you see are coming from the other side that’s squealing because they’re losing their power to continue on their quest for debauchery and keep the regular people sleeping while removing their rights until you’re sedated and too lazy and distracted to do anything about it and still believe you have freedom.

I’m from Eastern Europe living in the US for over 20 years. I know what communism looks like and how it paralyzes the people.

If you’re an American, shame on you for being so ignorant to what’s going on around you and being so complacent about it. Go visit another country and compare it to the US.

If you think this way, I’m sure your life reflects it. Probably still in debt and spends more money on useless crap but blames everyone else for your weak decisions and your weak willpower.

But, continue eating up those CNN wheaties and make sure your victim mentality is in full swing by noon, that’s the easy way.

[–]omen_tenebris5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

you know what's up.

[–]pigdestroyer1870 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Damn, I just posted a comment about Yuri before I read yours. Good call.

[–]agoodcrayon-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

I’m getting downvoted by these blue pill soyboys lmao communism’s gonna hit them so fast they won’t even know what happened and start remembering the “good ‘ol days” bahaha

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Wait until his next term. America will be fine in terms of corruption and ridding of the deep state, but feminism is here to stay.

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[–]agoodcrayon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lmao what a joke. Vague ideas of freedom bahaha black people hating whites lmaoooo

What a horrible interpretation.

Remember this - If you don’t vote for me you ain’t black - Joe Biden

[–]_do_not_read_this_10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don’t want illegal aliens to vote? You’re racist

This always cracked me up. "So you're saying that 'illegally entering a country' is someone's 'race'?" usually followed by another insult.

And I’m working on one of them.

TRP.red and Forums.red are the life rafts I constructed

Good luck. Did you read the part you wrote about gab-dot-io?

You'll get a following from here, but will the goog show your site in search results so that you'll get a new, constant stream of noobs? What happens when you can't find hosting?

I know you're working on all these issues, and I'm not trying to be an Eeyore here, but man we're losing and we're losing big these days. That's just facts.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's part of what's taking so long on our development. We have been actively negotiating contracts with our tech partners to prevent shuttering.

Yeah, we've been watching gab make mistakes and learning from them.

TRP.RED has been live for longer than gab.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Completely agree although such alternatives are able to be freely hosted on networks such as Tor. FREESPEECH (http://3speechizp2gtkem.onion) and Dread, Envoy, Asocial + others are not easily taken down by LE or the hate groups who hate you having any freedom. We need to educate people and move slowly to networks like I2P and Tor because it greatly increases anonymity and decreases censorship. Great post op 😁

[–]BasedAndRedPilled_16 points17 points  (16 children) | Copy

This is what uncontrolled hyper capitalism does to societies, they want to turn men into a bunch of weak minded morbidly obese 9-5 consumer drones. The capitalists love the destruction of the nuclear family, because it got in the way of their profits. These people are parasites to the highest degree.

[–]omen_tenebris27 points28 points  (7 children) | Copy

pretty sure you're mixing up capitalism and crony capitalism

[–]Jazzlike_Contact1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is not any different obnoxious leftists saying "bUt NoT ReeaAlLL CoOmmUnISm!!"

[–]thedoctorwhokilledMJ3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I guess you're technically right, but anyone with an IQ in the triple digits knows that capitalism needs some degree of restriction in order to work and it works with varying degrees of restriction. Unbridled capitalism would not work, which is why nobody ever advocates for it. Communism on the other hand has never worked because it is intrinsically flawed.

So your comment is pretty pointless my guy.

[–]BasedAndRedPilled_-3 points-2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Same shit, different asshole. Without government strictly controlling giant corporations, this is what happens.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet18 points19 points  (3 children) | Copy

Wrong.

When you create an authority that ostensibly overrules all other authorities (i.e. government), you create an incentive to control that power. Cronyism comes from allowing government to have the final say.

Power is either dispersed or concentrated. Whenever you concentrate it, you create incentives to control it.

The answer to concentration is dispersion. A free market is the way to achieve this. Everyone has power in accordance with their individual buying power. People must be persuaded. No one can be coerced.

[–]BlindBanshee4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

The fact that so many people think what we're experiencing in the US is capitalism or a free market is very worrying to me.

[–]thedoctorwhokilledMJ0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Especially when you realize its one of the few things we have still keeping us on top of the world somehow in spite of all of our cultural issues.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Are you arguing for an unfettered free market or do you think that there are certain cost externalities that necessitate some role for government?

[–]UnfriendlySoloutions6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its a shit test, nobody forces you to be a 9-5 drone, you can ignore everything and start your own business if you have the mindset

[–]BeefyBelisarius7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Uncontrolled? Nah, look back at what happened to the Gab founder, it's very controlled. The system may seem broken to us little proles, but it's working as intended.

[–]drakehfh1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The system may seem broken to us little proles, but it's working as intended.

Well said!

[–]PimentoBeans2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Degenerate capitalists boutta drop in to defend theie corporate overlords and freedom

[–]BasedAndRedPilled_-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sounds about right, if freedom is legal weed, transgender children, and 40% obesity rates, then freedom isn’t worth preserving, and should be taken away.

[–]PimentoBeans-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes.

[–]CrimsonSultan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

the jews have fought against the nuclear family since the beginning.

america has fought for the wrong side in the war, otherwise we wouldnt see companies rampaging against humanity in full force.

[–]trppr-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your username should read retardedandblueballed because youre a fucking idiot that doesnt get laid and blames successful people for that.

[–]Nihilist_punk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is a bigger problem here. It is the problem of risk transfer. The powerful banks have no accountability. The people are tired. They want somebody to blame.

This is a phenomenon everywhere, even in Asia.

The only thing I will thank reddit is for TheRedPill

I quit alcohol and other vices. Got my life in some sort of an order. Got stability on my mental health. I also got laid which is not as important as the aforementioned things.

u/redpillschool You taught me to hold frame through whatever shit happens. I just see this is as an enormous shit test. What people want and what they say arent the same. Their actions do not reflect their intentions. The rich are just playing off people's insecurity and I am sure this is bound to change.

Thank you internet brothers. I now live life in such a way that I wont regret dying.

[–]special_k_51 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

  1. They are re-writing history as we speak. Makes me sick

[–]Schhwing1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree with your well reasoned argument mostly. However I do see that the ideas of criticism of groups held in an unsophisticated mind can lead to hatred and violence by some, and there are multiple accounts of this over history.

It takes someone that is well reasoned and balanced to hold critical views of groups of people and not let that lead to hatred; unfortunately many people aren’t well reasoned and balanced as we all know. If you plant seeds of criticism and reasonable contempt into unsophisticated mind it can LEAD to hatred in the mad dogs of the world.

That is why there is such a crackdown on criticisms of minorities and more vulnerable groups, as in the past this has happened.

[–]WasteApplication91 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You should check out RSS and Atom. They're both decentralized open protocols decided to allow people to "subscribe" to different feeds and get direct communication. They're mature and have been around for over a decade, but most major social media/tech sites have killed off support for them because they wanted more control over how users receive notifications.

Using those standards for the "direct communication" aspect of TRP.red would provide resiliency & decentralization in the case of your network getting killed; users could switch to backup feeds or subscribe to other people in a way that traditional apps or mailing lists don't allow for. It's also a lot more anonymous and doesn't require you to have a database of subscribers like most other methods of direct communication; which would be advantageous to reach people who are concerned that their subscription to an """"""alt-right"""""" mailing list could cost them their jobs.

[–]uwey1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well if you think about it, when average man have nothing left to lose, the majority will actually convince themselves to side with Power to fuck everyone.

Really that simple.

When most people realize they can’t be what they desire to be, they would rather work to destroy the system and return the world to chaos.

That is why communism is a powerful tool when dissent is strong, notice a bad economic is not enough to turn major tide, but lose hope to “make it” or simply be happy can be the reason.

The oldest mindset of human is crab mentality, and when manipulative people in power use it well it is a fucking show.

Live accordingly to the time you lived. If you lived according to what you like but ignore your surroundings and isolate yourself, you are soon in danger.

All these things mentioned in the post is probably already not possible.

If you make top 10% income, think about government job, it may protect your assets in the future. Because you may lose more if you retire too early. I can already anticipate the upcoming inflation going to be high af because bailout and unemployment checks.

America finally feel what “old” country feels. UK experience this around Panama when US took the seat from UK. Notice power dynamics shift through culture.

How the tide has turned.

Btw China will be the scariest blackmirror live stream we can see through history books. Look how fast it shut down HK riot in comparison to 1989 06/04

After all. Just live accordingly and be aware of the shit going on. Spend your rage in sex, lift, and making money. It is that simple.

Memento Mori

[–]pussymail1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

We need to get rid of the federal reserve and central banks, so society will never be in a debt cycle again.

[–]pussymail3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

People that control the banks and money supply control the world

[–]Rottinghere2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just how fucked are we?

More than you could ever possibly imagine.

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[–]g11141 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

It’s more than just ‘the 4’ that vote for policies that led to the existence of sanctuary cities, the welfare state, and are currently supporting defunding the police. And those ain’t Republicans voting for those policies.

Republicans have their obvious issues, but thinking voting Democrat is how we get back to normalcy is mind blowing because the left is the one with all the double standards they can’t keep straight (gay marriage, police, borders, etc)

[–]Unsmurfme-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

I said 10%, which would be 24. I think that’s fair.

Can you name 24 crazy lefty democrats in the house? 5 in the senate?

I can find at least 100 crazy right Republicans in the house. They’re the norm. When normal Mitt Romney/McCain/Bush/etc. type Republicans take the party back I’ll consider them again. Right now the crazies are in charge on the right.

[–]g11140 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Can you name 24 crazy lefty democrats in the house? 5 in the senate? I can find at least 100 crazy right Republicans in the house.

This is so vague it's useless. Look at the specific policies being passed and who is supporting them since we can see how each person votes if we want. Asylee status and funding? Police defunding? Gay marriage? Sanctuary city laws?

Those don't get passed with only a few crazies on the left. Most of the left doesn't represent the average American, they just give better lip service.

Romney and McCain were losers when it mattered, and are more RINO than Republican (see their border policy or impeachment witch hunt). They were more worried about being liked than leading the country. Of course someone like you would want Republicans that can't win anything notable in the party.

[–]Unsmurfme-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Asylee status and funding?

What are you talking about?

Police defunding?

That’s local, not federal.

Gay marriage?

In what world is that far left crazy?

Sanctuary city laws?

That’s local not federal. And a blanket term. And the conservative Supreme Court ruled that ICE couldn’t arrest people at court houses for pressing charges on other people. Which is really the driving force between a lot of those sanctuary city laws.

[–]g11140 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Let's break those down.

Asylee status and funding

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/10/trump-administration-proposes-major-asylum-overhau/

There is a legitimate place for asylum claims and they are trying to fix the system. Trump is trying to turn it back into what it is supposed to be.

You only get to claim asylum if you're being persecuted by your own government. The point of asylum, which is more properly called political asylum, is that if your own government is targeting you, then you have no recourse in your own country and you have to go elsewhere.

If your life sucks because the cartels are running the show, that's not our problem. Your government is supposed to handle that. Take it to them, not us.

Instead, "asylees" disappear on our ground and then reap the rewards of sanctuary laws, which we'll get too

Police defunding? Local, not federal

I guess presently, but don't stick your head in the sand and think the federal government isn't involved at this point. Will be a huge debate issue heading into November

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/how-the-federal-government-can-reform-the-police

Gay marriage/Far left crazy

Gay marriage on its own isn't the problem. The issue is the normalizing of it and an obvious agenda in today's society that it is forced upon children to accept and normalize it in school regardless of personal feelings/religion/culture/ideology.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/images/2015/06/Prideboy1.png

When you combine that with a protected class like Muslims in the UK and the Trojan Horse Affair, it's just a battle of ideologies with no rhyme or reason anybody can draw the line on

That normalizing of teaching sexuality at such a young age also opened the door to this. Only one political party responsible for that.

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/drag-kids-are-slaying-runway-one-fierce-look-time-n918211

Sanctuary city laws? That’s local not federal. And the conservative Supreme Court ruled that ICE couldn’t arrest people at court houses for pressing charges on other people. Which is really the driving force between a lot of those sanctuary city laws.

City of Los Angeles vs Barr says it's a federal matter. As does the San Francisco courthouse arrests in March of this year where ICE arrested 4 illegals at the Sonoma courthouse.

Sanctuary city laws are a local matter in practice, but they're obviously a huge political platform at the federal level to trade votes for free education for illegals while paid for by taxpayers. Pretty sweet deal to encourage further illegal immigration and the birthright citizenship. I am curious to hear from you on how arresting federal criminals makes the average American citizen "less safe" though

[–]Jazzlike_Contact3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuckin great post. I'm more of a lurker here than a poster, but the culture war is destroying society. Luckily, strong, capable men can take advantage of it if they stop getting fucking obsessed with OwNiNg ThE LibTArdS/mistaking Ben Shapiro videos for intellectual content/screeching about how evil feminists are to poor, oppressed men and focus on what's around them.

Anyways, I just wanna point out that as long as we have a capitalist system (which should be forever), this is gonna continue. Capitalism -> companies ability to grow and prosper -> companies necessity to both build & preserve profits -> tech companies (of the social media stripe) needing to keep advertising dollars coming in -> societal pressure dictating content.

Also, there will never be a time when the most obnoxious politically correct cunts are not the ones in control of the social media platforms, because they cater to the most simplistic arguments. It is a lot easier to make a mess than to clean it up. To use one of your examples, it's a lot easier to call people who are against too much immigration racists, than to listen and to try to understand economic arguments about the effects of immigration, especially on the home nation's lower classes. It's a lot easier to call people against feminism misogynists, than to listen to an argument about whether feminism is actually improving women's lives. "You're racist/sexist/whateverist" fits into 140 characters. Also - keyword there is listen. Not even accept those positions - just listening is tough for these people.

Answer, like I said: just fuckin relax and live your life, and laugh at the plebs when you're rich with an hb10 wife on a beach somewhere.

[–]FollettoBurbero1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tribes has so much value, even lurking will bring something to your life if you actually implement what you get from there. Honestly though, I look forward to the forums a bit more as I’d see it as a modern “sosuave” with some more material on both seduction and life enrichment. Thanks for working on it rps, will keep an eye on it.

[–]AceMav210 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This guy is probably an extremely experienced developer

[–]Grandazer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

All things aside please make sure that the site is user friendly and easy to navigate through.

I am also sick and tired of reddit. The amount of cancel culture, neo-marxist and feminist posts I see on the front page is rather.....disturbing.

[–]rorrr1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Credit card? OK, boomer.

All the cool kids have moved to cryptocurrencies. It's unstoppable. Unbannable. And some of them is anonymous by design.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's slow, high transaction fees, and low adoption.

By all means, I support the crypto movement. I am excited to see how it plays out. But right now, not a viable alternative to taking credit cards.

[–]rorrr0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No, you're talking Bitcoin, which indeed has these problems.

Other cryptocurrencies, like Bitcoin Cash, are fast and have near-zero transaction fees.

[–]Pristine-Mechanic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

in my political podcast I spoke about how at every level political censorship is happening against conservatives, at the infrastructure level. mastercard payment processors, CDN like cloudfare, domain registrar for vdare, mainstream social media and even sites like gab. The issue is it can't be stopped. Anyone can host a website. Tor, BBS, etc. The only way to truly stop a movement is to ban someone from buying internet service from an ISP, anything else is just slowdown.

[–]aRANDnum0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Is there any way to help you coding on the website / forums? If not, is there any way to report issues on the website?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

PM Me.

[–]rawrlolrofl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Decentralized, specialized, and numerous.

[–]Blazer8080 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If people are so dumb and easily manipulated there's not much you can do about it anyway other than adapt and thrive. They would've been brainwashed with or without the internet.

[–]OA12T20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The biggest weapon we have to fight against all of the noise we hear today is our voting rights. I really don’t care who you vote for, but use that weapon wisely, more so this year than any other. The attack on your above points is in full swing. The hysteria and hate is real. You have the choice on how this country will be after November.

[–]CJ0900 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I hate that I have to be the defender of the white man just because I defending against racism is more important.

[–]RealJoeDee0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

How topical. We just cracked 1500 people on the TRP discord. When I got home from work I got an email saying I threatened someone (I didn't) and so my account was disabled. Because the server was attached to my account it got deleted.

I'm fighting it now and will update when I know something. Go to the youtube channel's community tab where I'll be posting updates. Maybe I'll pull a Karen and demand to talk to their manager.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, I told you discord was woke and not to be trusted.

They literally posted their manifesto a month ago, they will be monitoring chats and eliminating hate.

Use trp.red's chat to coordinate.

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[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's baffling me how you guys who have taught me so much seem not to grasp that fact. Free speech doesn't exist and never will. There is always some system in power for whom appearances must be maintained, and the masses for whom conscious acknowledgement of the truth will forever be censored.

How were we able to reach you?

[–]redvelvet_oreo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Damn I read this post last night to only find out later that the TRP Discord was banned. We are fucked.

Not sure how people are getting confused with this post.

Law 48: Assume Formlessness

[–]Raccoon_from_heaven0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I kinda feel like George Floyd's death could have been pre-planned. Somebody could have paid Derek Chauvin (the officer) to kill George Floyd. Why do I think so? Keep reading.
At the scene where Floyd was choke held by Derek, there where other officers nearby accompanying Derek. One of them was an asian. Now since he's asian (and hence not a white, so probably must not have been an anti-black racist) why didn't he try to stop Derek from chocking Floyd? Also why would Derek risk a serious jail term by trying to kill a man just because he was black?? Even if you were a hardcore racist why would you go to an extent to kill a black man in full public view and end-up in jail for murder?? I kinda feel like the officers might have been payed to find and kill a black man. Who might have payed them? Someone who would benifit from a big conflict related to racism. I could be wrong. But what do you think?

[–]Redpiller770 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

But what do you think?

That without any factual info any "theory" is worthless. But with that being said it is known that they knew each other from a past job. Who the fuck knows at this point.

[–]Redpiller770 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Even if they go for a total authoritarian government they can't do shit as long as people have firearms. I really don't give a shit about anything that the government tries to do. Now, I don't know how far we are from it, and it I'm well aware it sounds dumb to say it, but whenever technology gets to the point the they have AI that is able to grow by itself and robot soldiers everyone is fucked and it's game over. I know, I know, sounds like I've seen too much movies, but the way I see it it's definitely possible. Until that happens even if it get's shittier every day I really don't care.

With that being said the only way to free the internet is to implement a system similar to bitcoin but with websites. Something like torrents. We only really have to care about the exchange of ideas, so text with minimal website design is enough. Having videos requires too much bandwith, and this is a problem since people hate reading. But I don't think it would be hard to implement websites that require people to be connected to the internet in order for the website to be online. There would be a massive limitation in just how much of the website any person could have stored in their computers, but HDD prices have gone down considerably and since it would only be text it wouldn't require much resources. Like redpillschool said as long as we depend on them they can shut us down at any second. By depending in reddit they can shut the sub without notice, by having a private website they can shut down the servers, or force the servers to deny their service to the website (think 8chan), but the same way they can't shut down bitcoin since the infrastructure depends on millions of computers around the world the only way they could fuck with it is to shut the whole internet down. If we could do something similar to websites there wouldn't be a single point of failure and we could get away with it.

Edit: It's amazing how just mentioning any political shit makes some people oblivious to the message that is trying to be conveyed. I guess when a feminist talks I also only hear shit coming out of their mouths so I get them.

[–]Darkbrotherhood10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

what is posted here is the exact structure that antifa uses.

i have wanted to get detailed information about how they go about coordinating, then using it to do my own pro male resource network.

I support the structure and ideas, and will use my own technical expertise to attempt to make it more robust

[–]luiszubiate80 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you so much for this and all the amazing work. Being a young adult and seeing the questions I’ve been pondering for some time now, being addressed in such a concise, clear and hopeful way makes me really excited to be able to take part in this journey.

[–]Lambdal70 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

No senator is advocating for illegals to vote or open borders. Obama built the longest border wall by far.

Also, if you’re seeing a random gay guy as a threat to your family, you’re the problem.

So, your premise is very false.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Right on Biden's website, he wants to grant non-citzens the right to vote: https://joebiden.com/immigration/

He wants lax policy on the border, grant clemency to those who already crossed.

He doesn't have to use the words "open border" to show what he's about.

[–]drv120210 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

All these are nothing but an giant shit fking test. Only the sane and strong will raise from the adversity like this.

[–]proactive-defense0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I have seen some red pilled activity over on Ruqqus, with +TheRedPill and +MGTOW.

Just sharing this in the spirit of decentralization shown in the post.

[–]THOT_Analytica0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

The Criminalization of Masculinity

For half a century, conservatives have been putting their readers to sleep with denunciations of the sexual revolution as a kind of anarchic free-for-all where men’s sexual impulses are gratified at the expense of women’s long-term well-being. But, as I have explained at length elsewhere, the current hook-up scene is no chaos of random coupling; it is a Darwinian competition between women for the attentions of a relatively small number of men. This mating system’s predictable output—possibly its intended output—is a large number of disappointed young women ripe for a message of resentment and revenge upon the opposite sex.

Power abhors a vacuum, and breakdowns of order prove no more than brief transitional phases leading to controls more oppressive than the restraints initially cast off. The sexual revolution did not usher in prolonged anarchy; it replaced a voluntary system of self-control according to principles equally applicable to all with the bureaucratically enforced “empowerment” of one sex at the expense of the other. Thanks to recent headlines, it is finally beginning to dawn on even the dimmest conservatives that the sexual revolution has not “liberated male sexuality,” but subjected men to an arbitrary and hostile regime from which none of them is safe.

There is nothing “ironic” about the cheek-by-jowl existence of a casual sex scene and a bureaucracy dedicated to punishing the men who participate in it: the former acts as a necessary feeder for the latter. The proof is that no feminist has ever encouraged young women behave in ways which would prevent their getting hurt in the first place. Feminists find the hook-up scene far too useful to shut down.

The failure of conservatives to understand the nature of the new sexual regime has, as Stephen Baskerville, professor of government at Patrick Henry College, demonstrates in the book under review, made them into its unwitting accomplices. Indeed, the new sexual-bureaucratic despotism could not have been constructed without their active participation. Back in the 1970s when the movement was getting started, feminists wrote tracts advocating the abolition of marriage—and, of course, they got nowhere. Eventually they realized they could quietly redefine fornication as rape and easily stampede naive conservatives into a campaign to punish the “rapists.”

Extremist ideologies break out of the margins to assume power when they create a new politics that existing elites fail to understand, or when they can deceive enough of the elites into believing that their agenda is compatible with existing values. This is usually accomplished not by the most extreme ideologues but by those who manage to co-opt, appropriate and distort the respectable values of the mainstream and use them to camouflage their innovations.

Feminism has been wildly successful because it learned how to exploit “the natural concern of every society to protect and provide for women and children.”

Like the sexual revolution itself, the feminist bureaucracy which now manages its fallout originated on America’s university campuses. Back in about 1970, piggybacking on the Black Studies movement, feminists began demanding and getting their own academic courses of study. Their success was due in part to a superficial resemblance between rising ideological movements and intellectual breakthroughs: in both cases, outsiders perceive an insurgent group which claims to represent a new way of looking at things struggling for recognition against an entrenched establishment. This also helps explain the success of the authoritarian ideological movements studied by Kevin MacDonald in The Culture of Critique. Only those with expertise in the relevant subject matter can reliably distinguish between well-promoted ideological fads and true intellectual revolutions. Hundreds of historians, scientists and literary scholars voted to institute women’s studies programs at their universities in the 1970s and -80s without any clear idea what they were doing.

The original, straightforward name “feminist studies” was soon cast aside in favor of the deceptively neutral-sounding “women’s studies” (and more recently by “gender studies”). From the start, however, such programs avoided the objective, scientific study of women or the sexes: women’s studies professors teach their students nothing about sexual genetics, fetal hormonalization, or empirically observable behavioral differences between men and women. Indeed, they advocate the suppression of such research. As two dissident feminist professors have phrased it, “Feminist research demands loyalty to an ideological agenda rather than empirical adequacy and logical consistency.”

Feminist “theory,” as it is grandly called, is a crude social determinism, and the reason feminists cling to it is obvious: insofar as sex differences are naturally determined, they cannot be changed to suit feminist preferences. But “theory” plays a distinctly supporting role in what is essentially a political movement driven, in Baskerville’s words, “by a hatred of restraint and authority, and a thirst for unrestricted freedom and revenge.”

Sexual radicalism adopts irreconcilably contradictory positions as needed: all gender differences are social constructions, but women have special “needs.” Women are oppressed by artificial gender roles, but those same roles make women more “caring” and “compassionate.” Men and women must be treated identically, except when men must be excluded from certain competitions so that women can win. Fathers should assume equal responsibility for rearing children, but custody (along with the power and money that accompany it) must go to mothers. Alison Jaggar proclaims unashamedly that feminists should insist on having it both ways: “…where women’s interests are being damaged by being treated either differently from or identically with men.”

Contradictions in the realm of logic are justified as furthering opportunism in the realm of politics. Miss Jaggar’s book, Living with Contradictions, is treated as a classic of “feminist philosophy.” Other feminists denounce rationality and science per se as patriarchal conspiracies to oppress women.

Despite the field’s scandalous intellectual inadequacies, as of 2014 there existed “more than 200 chairs for gender/queer studies, nearly all held by women, and around thirty interdisciplinary gender institutes,” all suggesting to the callow minds of students that feminism is a field of objective knowledge analogous to physics or French literature. It was from the midst of this resentment-driven ideological ghetto disguised as a scholarly discipline that the new rules governing sex originated, and it was in American universities that they were first applied.

Rape: Not What It Used to Be

For decades, feminists have assiduously promoted the lie that one woman in four (sometimes five) is raped while attending university. “Reputable scholars who investigate [such] claims,” writes Baskerville, “readily conclude that it is not simply exaggerated but a hoax.” At most, a lot of women, unprotected by traditional behavioral expectations, are learning the hard way that fornication is not the path to happiness.

When such cases were brought before ordinary courts of law, they quickly got thrown out. So universities began, under feminist pressure, to establish internal procedures to handle accusations of sexual misconduct. These do not have to abide by the principles that govern ordinary courts of law, notably the presumption of innocence. One attorney cited by Baskerville describes the result as

a disciplinary procedure where students nearly always lack lawyers, no legally trained judge oversees the process, testimony is not under oath, hearsay is freely considered, relevant evidence or even proper notice of the charges may not be given to both parties, students may be forced to incriminate themselves, and whatever “jury” is empaneled may not be of one’s peers.

Such travesties of judicial procedure are now legally mandated at all colleges which receive federal funding, i.e., at nearly all of them. During the Obama presidency, Assistant Secretary of Education for civil rights Russlynn Ali even issued a directive to university officials demanding that campus tribunals adopt a lower standard of proof for cases of sexual misconduct than required by ordinary courts of law. This directive, by the way, included no period for public notice, comment, and possible amendment, as legally required for federal regulations: “it was simply an arbitrary order issued from the pen of a functionary.”

Since rape (as traditionally understood) is such a serious crime, convictions have always required proof of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Now campus kangaroo courts are convicting men on the basis of a preponderance of evidence standard, the lowest standard recognized by law. As Baskerville points out, the only possible explanation for this change is that the authorities want not to punish more actual rapists, but to secure more guilty verdicts against men.

Why would an Assistant Secretary of Education for civil rights be pronouncing on how criminal cases are adjudged? Because American courts have ruled that rape and sexual assault are forms of discrimination. Such is the hold of liberal ideology over the legal minds of America that judges are apparently no longer able to imagine any other form of wrongdoing. So officially, rape is now wrong because it “discriminates against” women.

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Some think the present system does not go far enough. Colorado Congressman Jared Polis advocates expelling all male students accused of sexual assault: “If there’s ten people who have been accused and under a reasonable likelihood standard maybe one or two did it, it seems better to get rid of all ten people.”

Indeed, feminist law professor Catherine MacKinnon does not think consent is a meaningful concept, and “has repeatedly suggested that virtually all heterosexual intercourse amounts to rape.” She is not a fringe figure; for many years, she was the single most cited feminist “scholar” in the world, and has repeatedly been called upon to advise the governments of individual states and Canadian provinces.

Susan Brownmiller, author of the standard feminist text on rape, called rape “a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear.” On this view, whether a particular man is innocent or guilty of a particular act is not especially important; even the defendant who is innocent in a particular case is part of the same male conspiracy against women. As Baskerville notes, such assigning of collective guilt to categories of people is a typical mark of totalitarian regimes. It justifies us in considering feminism part of the larger phenomenon that has been called “Cultural Marxism.”

The new thinking is being written into law. California law now requires that to avoid a rape conviction, male university students must “demonstrate they obtained verbal ‘affirmative consent’ before engaging in sexual activity.” Not just obtain it, but demonstrate, in court, that they obtained it. Asked how innocent people are supposed to prove they received verbal consent, the California assemblywoman who authored the law replied, “Your guess is as good as mine.” The impossibility of acquittal seems to be the whole point of the law.

The madness has long since spread beyond university campuses. Washington state has formally shifted the burden of proof in all rape trials to the defendant. In North Carolina, naming the person accused along with the time and place is sufficient to secure a rape conviction. Baskerville found one case in Texas where police were ordered to hide exculpatory evidence.

Rape accusers remain anonymous, but the accused do not, even after the accusation is demonstrated to be false. The past sexual history of the accuser is not admissible as evidence, but that of the accused is. Accusers are exempt from polygraph tests, but not the accused. Even a history of false accusations is not admissible.

Might crime labs step in to defend the innocent men now abandoned by the legal system? Labs have been found guilty not just of mistakes but of deliberate falsification of evidence. The Washington Post, among others, has documented how feminist laboratory technicians doctor and fabricate evidence to frame men they know to be innocent.

The Innocence Project is a nonprofit legal organization which seeks to exonerate the innocent through DNA evidence. In twenty-six years of operation, they have freed 362 wrongly convicted men who had been made to serve sentences of up to 27 years. Many of these cases, perhaps most, appear to be rape convictions, but the directors refuse to reveal the numbers.

Police investigators typically estimate false accusations of rape as running between forty and fifty percent of the total. Deception is, after all, the natural weapon of the sex which cannot get its way by force. Motivations for false accusations include providing an alibi, seeking revenge, obtaining sympathy and attention, gaining custody of children, extorting money from celebrities and, in the gender-neutral military, avoiding deployment to war zones. Feminists vigorously oppose any prosecution of false accusers.

Confronted with proof of widespread malfeasance, public officials typically complain that the justice system is “overworked and underfunded.” This is clearly a self-serving argument; as Baskerville points out, “if they simply stop accusing innocent men, they would no longer be overworked and underfunded.” We may expect wrongful convictions to continue for as long as officials owe their jobs to ensuring that they do. Rape accusations are “a thriving bureaucratic enterprise that can create business for itself by encouraging hysteria.”

Harassment

Refraining from casual sex does not protect a man, who may still be accused of “sexual harassment.” This expression, which first appeared in print in 1978, originally referred to the misuse of positions of authority to extort sexual favors. Of course, as Baskerville notes, such behavior has always been contrary to codes of professional conduct, and women have long been defended in such situations by male relatives: “nothing indicates the hysteria over ‘harassment’ is a necessary but excessive response to a real problem; from the start it was another ideological power grab, using sexual dynamic and government power to emasculate and feminize.”

It should also be pointed out that, in the words of dissident feminist Camille Paglia, “for every male harasser there are ten female sycophants using their sexual attractions to get ahead.” Baskerville cites survey findings, for example, that “two-thirds of British women admit using their cleavage to advance their careers.” Sexual harassment rules do nothing to discourage such behavior.

Like other ideological terms, “sexual harassment” soon fell victim to reckless verbal inflation, until it could be used to describe any male behavior to which a woman might object. The meaning can even be extended ad hoc to fit new cases as they arise. Obviously, it is impossible to defend oneself against a charge whose meaning can be expanded at will, nor can there be any presumption of innocence in such cases: “Because the crime is offending someone, the accused is guilty by virtue of being accused.”

At universities, the concept of “harassment” is now employed to forbid and punish criticism of feminism. “Antifeminist intellectual harassment” is said to occur whenever “the appropriate application of feminist theories or methodologies to research, scholarship and teaching is devalued, discouraged, or thwarted.” A man found guilty must

spend time learning about, and even leading, activities related to women at the college. He also undertakes… to write a letter of apology to the student [who accused him], expressing his esteem for her abilities and detailing what he has learned from his [anti-harassment] training. The trainer suggests that this letter (to be submitted first to the trainer for “review”) also be approved by the department chair and the university’s Equal Employment Opportunity office.

Baskerville notes the similarity to communist party discipline.

Accusations of sexual harassment are not usually tried in court. Instead, organizations such as schools and corporations are held legally liable for failure to act on female complaints. This forces them to assume the role of feminist policemen. Incentives dictate acting to minimize their own liability, not handling accusations fairly. “Universities tend to prefer the least expensive path to resolution of sexual harassment cases,” writes one dissident feminist, “and this often means settling out of court, usually by paying off the complainant, regardless of the merits of the charge.” Private companies best protect themselves through termination of the person accused.

The theory behind the sexual harassment movement is that men’s natural attraction to women is in reality an exercise of power over them. On this view, the teenage boy screwing up his courage to speak to the girl he has his first crush on is “really” exerting power over her. Here as elsewhere, however, feminists are inconsistent when it suits them. Common sense suggests that women’s newfound ability to destroy men’s careers by filing false or frivolous complaints of “harassment” against them is a dangerous form of arbitrary power, but feminists never recognize it as such: for them, only men ever have power—just as, according to the same way of thinking, only Whites can be racist. Yet at the same time they insist that female bosses be able to accuse male subordinates of something called “contrapower harassment.”

Also, the concept of sexual harassment is not applied to lesbians. Many women’s studies professors, e.g., are notorious for trying to seduce their students. They insist there is nothing wrong with such behavior. One writes: “It is because of the sort of feminist I am that I do not respect the line between the intellectual and the sexual.”

Feminists are now pushing the concept of “sexual harassment” on children. In Minnesota during one recent school year alone, over 1000 children “were suspended or expelled on charges related to sexual harassment.” The authorities express frustration over the stubborn tendency of little girls to enjoy the flirtatious attention of boys; they try to convince girls as young as six to issue the scripted threat: “Stop it! That’s sexual harassment, and sexual harassment is against the law.”

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To this day, according to one expert:

False charges can happen to any parent merely by a stranger picking up the telephone and anonymously calling a well-publicized hotline number to say, without any evidence, that a parent maltreated his or her child. This involves a massive number of children and families each year. It is almost impossible to fully insulate one’s family from the threat of a system that on very little pretense can simply reach into the home and take away one’s offspring.

As with the other new ideological crimes, there is no presumption of innocence and no clear definition of the crime: it is up to social workers to determine what counts as abuse. Baskerville comments dryly: “Free societies do not normally permit civil servants to adjudicate crime ad hoc.”

The irony, as the author points out, is that the best way to increase the chances of a child being abused is to separate it from its father. Sexual abuse in particular is extremely rare on the part of biological fathers. (This is hidden in the official statistics by counting stepfathers and boyfriends as “fathers.”) In the name of protecting children, feminists are removing their natural protectors.

A fairly recent trend is the federal campaign against bullying, enthusiastically promoted by the Obama administration. Something everyone previously thought was childish misbehavior is now officially a federal civil rights violation. Like the other quasi-crimes we have been discussing, it has no exact definition, but is said to include “teasing, name-calling, spreading rumors, threatening, and excluding someone from a group on purpose.” A number of anti-bullying intervention programs have been established, but researchers have found none that are effective. In fact, “the average teacher actually reported more bullying after intervention than before.”

At first glance, the anti-bullying crusade may appear unrelated to feminism. But, as Baskerville points out, it has traditionally been fathers who intervened against bullies, taught their children how to protect themselves, and disciplined them if they bullied others. Not coincidentally, single mothers are the most enthusiastic proponents of anti-bullying legislation: “With the systematic banishment of fathers by feminist-controlled divorce courts, single mothers can only cope by criminalizing one another’s children.”

I shall conclude this list of newly invented crimes against the matriarchy with a small but telling recent example.

Realization of the value of breastfeeding, along with more women in the workplace, has led to attempts to develop more tolerant attitudes toward public nursing. [But] the new measures do not merely “permit” it (something that could be effected simply by removing prohibitions); they inflict penalties on anyone who objects. In some jurisdictions it is now a crime to “interfere” (whatever that means) with a woman breastfeeding.

This new legislation is a symptom of “something unhealthy about our political culture: an inability to distinguish between permitting a practice” and forbidding its disapproval. Yet moral disapproval is the only alternative to legal punishment; without it, there is “no middle ground left between criminalizing one side or the other.” The penal apparatus then becomes a political prize that must be used against our opponents if only to keep it from being used against us. Obviously, this dangerous mindset contributes to America’s present extreme political polarization.

Feminists have begun agitating against male behavioral tendencies they call manslamming, mansplaining, and manspreading—with more, no doubt, to come. As the author says, “once the principle has been established that only men can be guilty of certain crimes, few limits remain against criminalizing the peculiarities specific to them.”

Conclusion

The reader may be familiar with the old feminist chestnut “rape is about power, not sex,” which goes back to the 1970s. In truth, for feminists, even sex itself is “about power, not sex.” Catherine MacKinnon, e.g., defines sex—not construes or interprets it, but defines it—as a construct of male power. On this view, the shy teenage boy screwing up his courage to speak to the girl he has his first crush on is in reality imposing a kind of force on her, virtually attempting to rape her.

How could anyone be drawn to such a perverse way of looking at human relationships? Baskerville finds a clue in the attraction of women to powerful men. This is one reason, after all, why men seek power and why the domain of power is traditionally understood as masculine: “Civilized society channels this power differential into social harmony, economic prosperity, and political stability through marriage.”

The author also makes the important point that traditional male authority within the household exists separately from the state and serves as a limitation upon it; feminist power is always allied with the state and serves to augment its power. Triumphant feminism is re-creating the “combination of political corruption, economic stagnation, swollen prison populations, and politicized criminal justice” familiar to us from Soviet communism.

By redefining men’s attraction to women as an exercise of power over them, feminists are most likely projecting their own preoccupation with power upon their enemies, heterosexual men. In Baskerville’s words, the newly ideological offenses serve to

criminalize those whose positions and power [feminists] crave for themselves and to whom they appear to be imputing their own sexual-political fantasies. Romantic and family intimacy are not merely collateral damage but the targeted enemy.

By undermining male authority, feminism is deliberately sabotaging heterosexual attraction—and, of course, sabotaging the continuation of our race.

For the new rules invented by feminism are likely to prove ineffective against those whose reproductive behavior is most governed by natural instinct. The new ideological regime is mainly altering the behavior of those most accustomed to self-control and rule-following. For this reason, I believe feminism constitutes a threat to Western civilization equal in importance to the ethnic competition more usually discussed on this site. In the end, we will be forced to choose between continuing to indulge feminism and securing our own survival.

[–]TheH1dd3nFear-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Here's the problem in short: ALL THE BIG TECH AND BIG FINANCIAL FIRMS ARE ALL IN CALIFONIA AND NY!

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[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry you missed the point.

[–]Redpiller77-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Even if it was this is a position they should be allowed to have. Most people think like you and their only thought is "right leaning = alt-right = bad". He's talking about free speech and the first thing you do is associate it with something bad. You're brainwashed.

[–]TheH1dd3nFear0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What about Chinese or Russian financial credit companies or Bitcoin??

[–]operationveritas0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

What do people think about Parler?

Will that ultimately see the same fate as Gab?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Requires phone number to sign up. Be very wary.

[–]operationveritas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Same reason I didn’t sign up tbh

[–]Keith_Valentine0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Op thanks for an interesting topic. Any thoughts on that new twitter competitor, Parler, i believe its called?

I honestly dont think its nearly as bad as it seems. Society is fucked up and in shambles, but we always rise from things like this. Its a right cross smack dab in the nose and a wakeup call. This is what we Needed. The opposition is having its way. Feminism, anti patriarchy, anti capitalism and Americanism. And look at em! A bunch of clowns. Majority has lost respect for women, rioters and US haters are tipping their hand and exposing themselves. Because they think they have power, and they are dead fucking Wrong. They are pawns imo.

I also understand the angle of this thread, and the white nationalism, which i dont feel at its core is negative. But really men of all races are in this. Yea minorities are somewhat being weaponized against a "white boogeyman", but in real life encounters i think it melts away. Realistically some more color in TRP leadership could be amazing. Imagine a black Red Pill man denigrating gynocentrism. And when the left pushes back, we will just call them racists and they'll be stunned and shut the fuck up. Haha! Checkmate bitch.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

We use pseudonyms because our purpose is to uncover and discuss the truth. The color of the mods is irrelevant in this aspect.

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Understood sir. I just meant in a sense, fighting fire with fire. Like a dominant white male is so much easier for the left to triviliaze than an angry black man with the same values. Does that make sense? We need to start thinking 4d chess.

I am a partial native American, hispanic white man. So all the usual smear tactics and labels absolutely roll off me like water off a ducks back. This could be an asset. This recalls a TRP thread almost a year ago where a guy was upset Muslim men were fucking European women. And to me, how is that not a win? Can we not learn from that? Those countries are so liberal and welcoming, and look at the way they get treated. Pure data

[–]ZymfRmzKt6Y2UV0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

BLM is a terrorist organisation

[–]alien_race_4200 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Will I be allowed to start a feminist club on your platform?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

One of our main requirements to be considered for the new platform is that the speech is demonstrably not allowed or is at risk elsewhere.

Do you feel your feminist club is unwelcome on reddit?

[–]therealMericGetler-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

>I'm a narcisist rehashing endless internet discussions without standing for any real moral cause, b/c I just want pussy to want me but I'm 5'6 and 330.
Did you steal that or write it. Either way you suck.

[–]seducter1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Post a valid counter or shut the fuck up.

[–]therealMericGetler0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

why bother? I'm making fun of people who rehash ideas that have been around for decades while acting as if they were einstien or buddha.

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This is a bit more meta but...

When I think of all of the problems in the world, not conspiracies but problems that can't be attributed to those.

I always return to the same thought...

It's poverty.

If everyone were rich, people would have the resources to fight back.

And the only way for the billions of people on earth to not be poor, is for poor people to stop having children.

Yes pensions would collapse but whatever.

No more billions making money for the thousands at the top. No more billionaries.

Real equality would abound.

Europe, filled with mostly smart and decent people as shown by their economies and safety, 99% of them have children, even if it's just one.

What do you guys think of this?

[–]thedoctorwhokilledMJ1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

A. Impossible.. absolutely no way to morally/ethically/justifiably "stop poor people from reproducing"

B. Reducing the population in poor countries would not suddenly make them rich.

For people to be rich, others have to be poor. Its an ugly truth than a lot of people seem unable to fully grasp. Value is a derivative of scarcity. Many of the successful european countries you referenced profit, or have profited in the past off of people in poor countries.

If poor countries significantly reduced their populations, their value as a labor/resource supply to rich countries would also likely decrease. Maybe a few countries with better natural resource supplies would move up and some of the current rich countries would move down in the hierarchy, but the hierarchy itself will always remain.

As communism "experiments" have shown, the closest we can get to true equality leaves everyone poor, except of course the people in control (government officials in communism cases). Whether its capitalism or communism, there will always be the rich and the poor, but capitalism has proven to be the best system we currently have to distribute resources in a (reasonably) fair way and the results are pretty good when we achieve the right balance of preventing monopolies/oligopolies while still allowing as much of a free market as possible.

TL;DR It is literally impossible for everyone to be rich. One man's profit is another's loss.

[–]Gackt0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Exactly, but the fewer poor there are, the less rich the rich will be, which will bring us true equality, which is coincidentally what leftits always peddle but want to accomplish through wealth redistribution and shit.

If poor countries significantly reduced their populations,

Poor countries would vanish by definition I guess?

You're missing one key puzzle on why it wouldn't work: technology.

Technology has allowed us to grow to 7 billion people without massive world-spawning famines.

Current technology + 1800s population = everybody eats.

Maybe even less than 1800s population

It's also more about particular suffering as opposed to numbers, sure, GDP might crash, but you won't have people starving to death like in North Korea and Venezuela.

Another alternative is have people in first world keep reproducing (but not too much), stop people in Venezuela and North Korea from doing so.

Not stop as in eugenics, but as in a wish granted by a genie.

And this is coming from someone currently living in Venezuela as I type this, a communist dystopia: why the fuck are people here (and North Korea) are having children? I will never understand...

When I personally ask people having children about it, here in Venezuela in flesh and blood, not a survey or an study, but on a personal level, it always come down to "things will get better", which is an absurd justification in my humble opinion.

Recently a sibling died (covid19) from being denied medical attention because he didn't have thousands of dollar in cash to be admitted (he actually had the money, but tied up in a Panamanian account, long story short not admissible for the private hospitals), he had to go to a public hospital where it's pretty much a death sentence if you go in, and he died...

And one of the nurses stole his mobile phone when he died..

Why the fuck are people having children in this kind of environment (he left 2 orphans and a widow behind), I know I wouldn't.

[–]thedoctorwhokilledMJ0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I agree with you 100% that reducing the population would do a lot to improve the lives of everyone. I also agree that its sad that people in the poorest countries are having the most kids, but I don't see any real way to fix that. And yes with a lower global population everyone would be better off, but there will still be people who have more than others. I don't even necessarily think thats a bad thing I just wanted to make the point that no matter how small the population hypothetically is, there will never be true equality and I don't think its something we should strive for either. People who take risks and improve the world deserve more than people who are just getting by for themselves and their families. Hopefully we can eventually get to a point where everyone at least has enough to meet their basic needs if they're working, but that would 100% require a smaller global population.

[–]recov3r0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I was born in a poor house hold and both of my parents are illiterate, from your logic my parents should not reproduce in order to decrease poverty. Please leave your SJW mindset behind and read stuff here with open mind my parent have 2 kids me and my elder brother. We were broke pretty much for a long time but now I am an Engineer(Computer science) and My brother is Manager he has masters in Marketing and both are earning good money. The reason we are different from others around us is that my parents didn't have the Victim mindset.

[–]Gackt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

For every success story there are thousands that don't make it.

I'm just like you, 2 poor parents, got into computers, made it.

What if we both hadn't been smart enough for CS?

I know my life would look very different right now.

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[–]recov3r-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

TRP is not exclusive to US only, people here are from all over the world. You can keep your solipsistic commentary about al-right and TradCon to yourself. The post is targeted towards freedom of expression. Spend some more time here reading and read 48 Laws of power as well at least 10 times then revisit this post.

[–]Extremely_Photogenic-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I used to be a patriot but I just gave up. It's time for America to fall. Is China better? I doubt it. But such is life

Down with America.

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[–]agoodcrayon10 points11 points  (7 children) | Copy

You’re a tard. You can’t be red pilled and liberal if you know what’s good for you. The blue pill exists for those libs.

As for BLM, that’s an operation for division using black people as their pawn. A “great” movement or so it seems until you do research.

If black lives mattered they wouldn’t be killing each other on the streets of Chicago and the famous black celebrities would actually help their communities instead of promoting more violence and profiting off their own brothers and sisters.

The Democrats lined their own pockets and urge black people to continue voting them in promising change only to keep them in the projects and uneducated enough to profit off of them as well.

You can have your Jordan’s and your Gucci slippers for the clout but once you get back to Mamas house you go back to your shared bedroom and mattress with no sheets. But ayy, at least you got clout.

Michael Jordan is laughing to the bank.

[–]HeftyNugs2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Holy fuck you're out to lunch on this one chief.

[–]Novela95-2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy

When it comes to black people and voting democrat, this logic truly makes no sense whatsoever. So you expect black people to vote republican when they aren't bringing anything to the table at all while also putting less black people in positions of power to better themselves. Last time I checked Obama made it as a black man on the democratic ticket while black republican candidates never made it out of the primaries. Republicans would need to come to the table with some concessions for a voting block to switch sides. That's just common sense.

[–]g11144 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Which concessions would those be?

The Democratic Party runs on reparation promises and a welfare state they never deliver or fix to keep the black population in line and voting one way. Check and mate to the repubs on any reasonable concession debate.

If those things changed, Black people would start thinking independently about why all these issues occur in cities that have 60 years of Democratic leadership at every level. But that still wouldn’t necessarily improve the single motherhood rate, which would still benefit from the party more interested with empowering the welfare state, which would still be Democrats

[–]Novela95-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

You just saying a whole lot of nothing. It doesn’t matter really because trump and rest of the republicans are using white people, who feel like minorities winning is them losing, to make a quick buck and amass a good amount of control. Remember that it is you’re guy in the White House currently and y’all are still complaining. Lmao

[–]g11142 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

My 401k and portfolio loves Trump. Voting for your self interest is voting for republican on the basis of wealth redistribution alone. I want zero of Zuck or Lebron’s money. I don’t think I’m entitled to any of it. Tax policy on its own will make any self starter or entrepreneur a republican. But let me guess, I’d didn’t build my business, right?

Edit: also just realized you ignored all points that show how republicans will never get the black vote because of how ingrained reparations and welfare is ingrained into the other party. That wasn’t a whole lot of nothing as much as noticing the obvious.



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