If he doesn’t lovingly and passionately kiss you during sex, he does NOT love you.

SABIarchi123 · 2022-01-29T14:27:07+00:00

I saw a post where nvm said he deliberately cuddles a woman after sex so that she'll stay emotionally hooked on him. He should be giving you non-sexual physical touch too I think.

ImpressiveHat8550 · 2022-01-29T13:03:19+00:00

Yup. Surprisingly somehow kissing for a lot of men is actually more intimate than sex. I’ve even heard guys who say they’ll have m/m sex but won’t kiss the guy because that’s going to far. If he’s not kissing you gently and lovingly, he’s not into you. And not just during sex but all the time. Men know. They aren’t as dumb as they play.

kolsen92 · 2022-01-29T16:16:09+00:00

When men only want you from behind. Hasn’t happened to me but have friends say that’s all they do with their bf’s. Red flag

mannfan9292 · 2022-01-29T15:14:56+00:00

Feeling sad thinking about how this applies to my ex. He’d always shove me off him because he was “too hot” to cuddle after sex. Then refuse to even hug me after showering because he was trying to dry off. No wonder I was constantly depressed during those 4 ½ years. I was touch-starved.

InternationalMatch5 · 2022-01-29T15:04:07+00:00

THIS IS SO TRUE. I'VE OVERHEARD SOME MEN CELEBRATING DOING IT FROM THE REAR TO AVOID THE WOMEN'S FACE.

Making love to someone consists of celebrating their existence and entire body, which leads to full body kissing and showing them they are the only person in the world you'd be doing this with and it's just the deep desire to making your partner feel absolutely the best they've felt in their entire life.

The game those men play leave no one satisfied and I hope they feel as miserable and lonely shortly after to learn their lesson. Their actions are selfish and they care to please themselves and not you.

drowsypillowprincess · 2022-01-29T15:58:59+00:00

Just to be clear: this post is NOT saying that passionate kissing means a man is HV. Lots of LVM are passionate kissers.

It’s saying if a man REFUSES to kiss you or AVOIDS kissing you, or only engages with you physically during sex (he doesn’t do non-sexual cuddling), then he is LIKELY a LVM who is using you for sex.

It’s that “not at rectangles are squares but all squares are rectangles” thing.

pinksamosa · 2022-01-29T15:12:56+00:00

I used to think this too. But my ex would look into my eyes and kiss me and it was magical. But he still cheated on me lol Just vet vet vet

smittydoodle · 2022-01-29T13:48:13+00:00

My ex never looked at me and wouldn’t kiss me during sex, and then he told me a story about how he used to give his male best friend hand jobs. It was confusing.

Far_from_deceived · 2022-01-29T13:09:04+00:00

True! They think women just exist from their neck down. They act as if their head doesn’t exist, because for him we are just a hole. He will only want the mouth for oral sex.

Your message is so true. And this is actually why prostitutes don’t kiss. Because there is something more involved in kissing. It’s actually more intimate than sex itself.

overit_af · 2022-01-29T13:43:20+00:00

This is a very important aspect to consider. I had an embarrassingly terrible sex life with my nvex; it actually started okay (like meh, but I was exhausted from my over ambitious/loved sex more than life itself ex prior to him) but soon morphed into him actually closing his eyes tightly and covering his face during sex. I’m conventionally hot af, btw. And he is absolutely and tragically not hot—Never was, never will be. It was so fucking brutal to my self esteem 🤡when this switch happened… which was shortly after we bought a house together 🤡.

Come to find out a year later—ohhhh, he pays women to have sex with him. A lot. Never date down and never deal with men who don’t look you in the eye and kiss you during sex. They are NOT worth it.

BrightLightBabyAtom · 2022-01-29T14:18:14+00:00

This is so true. Once you experience this tenderness and passion from a man who truly cares for you, you will never accept less. It is REAL, and it is so tender and loving 💖.

electroloop · 2022-01-29T13:01:52+00:00

Yes.

Also watch out for men who only want to have sex in certain positions. I am guilty of this, but in my past way before FDS if I didn’t have any emotional feelings for a man and just wanted to use him as a human dildo, I would get him to fuck me doggy style.

No eye contact is a sign of a man who just views women as a human flesh light.

frostpuffin · 2022-01-29T13:11:53+00:00

But don't forget that kissing and cuddling is not a guarantee for feelings. My last guy used me for sex but also for soft, loving touches and backrubs..

SolunaJune · 2022-01-29T17:36:19+00:00

My father never wants to kiss my mother. Been that way my whole life. Many fights between them over it. Even as a little child I knew that wasn't right.

Good god, I need therapy.

Davina33 · 2022-01-29T15:34:56+00:00

Very true. The smarter men will do those things but most won't. Women have got to start raising their standards. We deserve better.

ConfusedBisexual1992 · 2022-01-29T15:52:25+00:00

I dated a guy back in 2017 who was fine touching/having sex with me, but wouldn’t kiss me. He led me to believe that it was a cultural difference (he was Chinese), but I’m fairly certain he was just making excuses. He also had the audacity to accuse me of giving him an STI even after I sent him a screenshot of my negative results 🤡

Delphi710 · 2022-01-29T14:27:54+00:00

There's a song for this.

Whooaaaooohhh it's in hiiis kiiis (that's where it is)

I love Cher.

HotConsideration3034 · 2022-01-29T14:22:53+00:00

Yep I totally did this with men that I wasn’t in love or really into. Wish I read my own red flags 😱

ExistentialJelly · 2022-01-30T21:24:06+00:00

If you can't laugh during sex... it just ain't intimate. When your bodies are sticky and up against each other and movement causes a loud fart sound and you can't laugh and kiss, and keep going, it's just lacking.

Vaahla · 2022-01-29T15:50:15+00:00

I can’t even remember how to kiss properly it’s been so long; and I can guarantee you the man I spent the last many years with did not respect me or women in general.

I think this is a fair statement, there is something wrong with the absence of intimate kissing in a relationship.

FluffandRainclouds · 2022-01-29T16:04:34+00:00

Agreed. But, ladies, do keep on mind men who don't love you are still capable of doing this.

CinammonBrownie · 2022-01-29T15:18:35+00:00

But don’t get it twisted he can definitely also kiss you passionately during s3x and not love you…

One_Bat_2525 · 2022-01-30T03:51:35+00:00

I can’t get into sex without the kissing and hot eye contact. It makes everything so much better.

2022-01-30T10:29:43+00:00

At the same time do not assume he's truly in love with you just because he kisses and cuddles.

creamtart_ · 2022-01-29T14:49:03+00:00

Respectfully, I disagree. My NV ex was the most passionate kisser. It was one of his manipulative traits and one of the many ways he deceived me so well to believe that he was madly in love with me. He was still a pornsick cheating abusive scrote.

A lot of abusers and narcissists can up their charm and make you swoon to get what they want. Yes, some can be heartless and not kiss you, but some can use it to their advantage.

plumeriaworld · 2022-01-29T14:47:51+00:00

I think this is a complete lie in my opinion. I haven’t had many partners but all of them would want to passionately kiss me… I think only one loved me. Maybe the absence of any kissing is telling… But passionately kissing is not very meaningful on its own.

Ericaeatscarrots · 2022-01-29T16:34:33+00:00

Ouch, this hit close to home. Glad I’m not the only one

Gologic34 · 2022-01-30T00:12:59+00:00

Haha, this was my ex . . . husband. 😵‍💫

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Longjumping-Draw8642 · 2022-06-23T03:55:40+00:00

I’ve have sex with 30+ men and it STILL haunts me (22F) even after 2 years that this man has been the only one to ever NOT kiss me during sex. Next weekend: I spot him making out with a girl at a party. Major ego bruise, ngl

Title	If he doesn’t lovingly and passionately kiss you during sex, he does NOT love you.
Author	arnezuara
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Date	January 29, 2022 12:52 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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