It's too risky for a woman to be with a Red Pilll man.

Mrs_Drgree · 2022-02-21T05:21:20+00:00

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fruitycoolwhip · 2022-02-21T02:32:04+00:00

These are things that some rp people live by, but not all. A lot of rp guys don’t care if a woman is successful, they just don’t want her to be domineering at home the same way she might be at work.

Many rp guys want kids or long term relationships. They don’t all want to pump and dump

sootlord · 2022-02-21T12:21:02+00:00

Men learning about red pill so they can finally start prioritizing their self worth.

- Women most affected

volante_wannabe · 2022-02-21T12:18:26+00:00

ahah wtf is this shit

SylvestorTalone · 2022-02-21T07:30:53+00:00

I'm pretty sure most RP guys would not object to the traditional safeguards against men abandoning their families for frivolous reasons, provided marriages are also safeguarded against all the female ''I'm not happy'' nonsense.

The thing is, women decided they wanted to be able to nuke the marriage whanever they want and take all your shit, even when she's the one who cheated on you. Since modern society seems determined to enforce the ''everything the woman's way'' line on relationships, men now treat them as the joke that they are.

AreOut · 2022-02-21T05:46:04+00:00

My god, another woman that doesn't know RP and comes in here with hot takes!

1a) RP teachings does NOT tell you that women cannot have jobs. In fact most dudes really do not give a shit if you work, even outside of the RP space. Your money only matters to broke dudes/couples that need two incomes to survive. Any man with capital simply does not care about your money. WOMEN put a significant amount of self assessed bonus points to themselves for working.

1b) No; You aren't just valued for your beauty; but that is significantly more important than say; your money making capabilities. In fact, personality traits are even more important than your money.

1c) No; The wall doesnt mean you get dumped at 30. The Wall means you get LESS attention than you did in your 'peak years' (early to mid 20s) This isn't because you simply fall off a fucking cliff in beauty, either. It doesn't mean you get zero attention, or that you cannot find a husband/father to children. It just means it will be harder for you than it used to be.

2a) See 1c. Don't settle down if you don't want to, its your choice. It will get harder for you as you get older. Either there won't be any men you find 'acceptable' (where are all the good men!?), or the men that are acceptable to your standards may pick somebody else. She could be younger, she could be cuter, or more feminine.

2b) I don't see many 40 year old men chasing 25 year olds, and that is not an RP teaching either. Typically speaking men do date younger than them. A 40 year old man can have more, or less baggage than a 25 year old. Depends on the life lived and the circumstances of that life.

2c) They might be divorced with kids; so could a 25 year old woman. OR maybe just a kid and no divorce.

2d) Plate spinning is to stop him from putting you on an unrealstic pedestal, consuming all his free time talking to you and being the stage 5 clinger. This isn't something you are supposed to do after you go exclusive with somebody. For fucks sake, most women already do this by dating more than one guy at a time. If you are asshurt about this, tell your fellow women to stop doing the same thing.

2e) What? Staying out all night as a married man isn't a teaching of RP either, are you just taking whatever dickhead traits you can think of and calling it RP?

2f) Threesomes isn't an exclusive to RP type of thing lmao. But I guess if a dude fantasizes about a threesome he is RP now. WE MADE IT BOIS, MAINSTREAM!

2g) Sex fiend? No. But you should be willing to do things your partner likes within some established boundaries because it makes your partner happy. This is true for both men and women,

3) RP doesn't tell you that you cannot date single moms. It educates you on the downsides of dating/being with single moms. Such as; It is not your kid so you cannot discipline it. If you break up, you no longer have access to the kid. The mom can sign you up for child support even if you are not the biological father 'for the sake of the child'. Additionally; there are more men willing to step up and be step fathers than there are women willing to be step mothers. (IIRC it was like 16% of men are step dads, and only 13% of women.

Next side to this; women control the birth of a child. If you are sleeping with fucking sleazeballs that may not stick around or you get knocked up from a ONS type of situation; it is your fault. The consequences of that choice is having a harder time finding a man. You cannot control every aspect of the relationship, you cant force a man to stay. Nor can you force a step dad to take on the responsibility of another mans kid. Stop trying to shame men into 'stepping up' and 'be a real man'.

4) See 1c) above. Adding to this; Do not confuse 'cute enough to fuck' with 'I want this woman to have my kids'. Matches mean jack and squat most women know this. If you don't you do now.

5a) Yes, you need to compliment your mans life; just as he must do to yours how is this some type of fucking surprise or bad thing?

5b) You don't really have a choice about his frame thing. A confident man will do what he needs to in order to be the best provider he can. You should feel comfortable allowing him to do the things he needs to. If you don't its either hes not doing the things he has to, or you are unable to allow him to do those things.

5c) Girls nights and the like. Again, it gives warnings. Women cheat just as often as men; they just hide it better. IF all men are pigs and cheat, that means all women are whores and cheat as well. I've met very few men who are not comfortable with a girls night out, but a girls weekend to vegas? That they fight back on...as do most women. In fact I've met more men that have their nights out controlled by the women in their lives. It is a trope for a reason.

5d) What part of RP says women cannot hang with her sister? Can you tell me what book? Or was the insecurity of one man enough to paint an entire community?

5e) False, kind of. You should have hobbies, but that doesn't mean we need to care about them...just like you wouldnt need to care about your mans hobbies any more than some passing interest. This is not an RP teaching either.

5f) I find this to be more based on the man than on RP. But, sure lets blame RP for something you dont like lol.

RP also doesn't tell you not to get married, it warns you of what can happen. Men make their own choice on marriage. Some will, some wont.

I don't think I can change your view. But you really do not understand RP. You come in here and spout nonsense to get confirmation bias from the women. You havent read any of the material and are making sweeping claims/generalizations about what it is.

RandomRedditGuy322 · 2022-02-21T01:52:03+00:00

Women aren't meant to like TRP. That's the point. TRP brings value to men, and is a strategy used by men to reclaim their masculinity from society, and smash gynocentrism.

ruboyuri · 2022-02-21T03:29:12+00:00

I fail to see how she would conclusively know and not dump. Unless she is a masochist

AnonymousAndy2018 · 2022-02-21T13:29:40+00:00

We really don’t expect women to “get it.”

Redpill is when you’re aware of the ugly downsides to modern relationships. The odds are stacked against men. And women too in some ways, they just refuse to acknowledge ugly truths and insist that they’ll be the exception to the rule.

It’s like someone shows you horrific car accidents or motorcycles demonstrating what can happen if you mess around and are reckless. Take heed of the negative outcomes because nobody is gonna come bail you out when shtf.

r2o_abile · 2022-02-21T23:15:27+00:00

I laugh because I agree with this post almost 100%.

My fear/belief, is that this cash grab 'community' will make even more men miserable.

RP is not really about this anyway. If anything, it's the opposite (at least my understanding). It's about stopping yourself from being used by society.

You are used if you have to spend all your time working. You have no time for your family, or even hobbies.

Nowadays, it is economically crazy to doggedly raise a family on one income. You could always die, be injured, fall ill; etc. What happens to your family then??

I think egalitarianism is the way forward. Equals coming together to continue their lives in tandem. None of that "I'm the leader, crap"; none of the "manipulate with sex or money crap".

Cheers.

TheRedPillRipper · 2022-02-21T02:10:14+00:00

it’s too risky to be with a RP man

There’s an entire sub dedicated to just that. To which at least 57,000 people subscribe.

what do these men really want

TRP doesn’t dictate to men. It is simply a toolbox. The majority of subscribers, simply are looking for better outcomes.

Godspeed and good luck!

C_Sec_Matt · 2022-02-21T02:19:03+00:00

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Mrs_Drgree · 2022-02-21T03:48:10+00:00

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buddyfluff · 2022-02-21T15:11:48+00:00

Yes they’re all women hating misogynists lol don’t date anyone who follows that lifestyle…

2022-02-21T15:26:48+00:00

So this inexperienced girl now has to magically be a sex fiend.

😂😂 yup this 1000%! I've said it before but a totally inexperienced, 'high value' 25 year old woman is a huge dead bedroom/ sexless marriage risk given how sex drenched our society is. Not saying she needs to be a ho but anyone with a sex drive will act on it or at least try to.

afkawayrn · 2022-02-21T16:54:59+00:00

What no one seems to get is the difference between a actual HVM and RP guys. There’s a lot of guys who preach RP stuff but they are young, or single, or make less than 100k a year. These people are in my honest opinion shouldn’t even be talking about the subject because they aren’t even in perspective to understand MOST RP points. A actual HVM is only at the MOST 10% of the US population, so there’s no way those guys are all posting in PPD or the ones always doing these comments on RP. So back to OP, what you are talking about and seeking ARE those top 10% of men, which is completely not the majority of the populace. You are more than welcome to lower you standards from those Chad RP men who do the pump and dump stuff. RP just tells women to stop chasing the top 10% and settle for a normal guy if you don’t want to deal with everything in your post. Which isn’t much to ask. If a guy makes less than 100k a year, isn’t 6 foot, isn’t well endowed, I just wouldn’t be making any commands or trying to tell what a women should or shouldn’t do lol. That’s just my view and opinion on it. The bar is low on both sides, it needs to be raised.

nicethingyoucanthave · 2022-02-21T16:57:53+00:00

My attempt to change your view is to point out that while you claim this:

I just started watching some RP men on YouTube

You didn't link to (and I doubt you will link to) any of them saying what you claim they say:

you will be dumped turning age 30

I would appreciate a link where they advocating dumping someone when they turn 30. I really would. I'd like to see what these youtubers are actually saying in context. I really doubt they're saying to dump a girlfriend who has been acting right.

2022-02-21T21:48:56+00:00

Let the believe this fairy tale. At least they will die out soon.

OfCatandPagan · 2022-02-21T09:35:58+00:00

...............................................ok maybe not ALL RP but where is the lie? Where is the lie here?

DrBoby · 2022-02-21T08:29:09+00:00

Red pill is way too open for you to make this assumption. This is like saying "don't date communists"

Red pill doesn't say women can't work.
1b. Being a father and educating your kids is a viable red pill man strategy in which women are not dumped at 30.
Red pill doesn't say this.
Red pill is not a charity. And pump and dump is not the only red pill way. It's just one way.
OLD responses just mean 40 year old women get pump and dumped. Studies show that it's really hard to settle as a 40 year old woman unless they go for 50-60 year old men.
Bullshit.

figuringMylife · 2022-02-21T02:14:21+00:00

lots of those men are frauds. most men are default pill (blue) because its a matrix reference.

but REAL RP men are not risks. anyone following reddit TRP and being PUAs are fake

LateralThinker13 · 2022-02-21T16:18:56+00:00

Wrong on all counts. Let me count the ways.

As a young female in your 20s dont bother trying to get a professional career, especially being a boss; however, dont be in a female dominated career like a hairdresser or daycare worker. Your only value is your beauty; however, you will be dumped turning age 30. So since you were not supposed to work on a career you wont be able to afford to live when your older.

If you're pursuing a full career, a 40-60hr/week career like men do, you don't have time for a relationship or kids. Also, your value is in your beauty, yes, but also your fertility; if you focus on career until you're 30, you're wasting both until you hit the wall. Finally, having a career "just in case" means you're entering long-term dating with one foot out the door. That's not attractive and signifies a lack of trust.

You better settle down by age 25 and be a virgin or only been with 1 other person. You will need to marry a 40 year old because it's there turn and worked on themselves, never mind that at this point they have a lot of baggage. Probably divorced with kids. As the RP man I am able to spin plates. If RP man is married then I can stay out all night and mess around. You better also be into 3somes. So this inexperienced girl now has to magically be a sex fiend.

Wow, just no. Yes, a low body count is preferable to men because pairbonding is a thing, as it the declining marriage duration that directly correlates to number of previous sexual partners. The higher your N-count, the worse you do in a LTR, statistically, but only for women. Also, no, there is no RP line where 20Fs must date 40Ms, or do threesomes or whatever. Pure hyperbole.

3 RP man should pump and dump, but dont date single moms even if they are contributing to this problem.

Women have virtually total control on the creation of children. A man does not. Don't blame single mothers' lack of intelligence and poor decision-making on men's inability to prevent their unwanted children.

Your old by 30 and hit the wall. You will be a lone cat woman the rest of your life. Studies have shown that this is simply not true. Women after this age get many responses on OD and date easily with even men younger than them. Try creating a fake account and be a 40 year old average female and see for yourself.

LOL comparing apples to hand grenades. Getting (validation) hits on OLD is easy for almost any woman. Getting an LTR? That's the hard part. HMU when you do the research on marriage rates for over-30s vs. under-30s.

You have to compliment the RP mans life. Be in there frame. No more girls nights or weekends, but he can do whatever he wants. Even doing things with your sisters is not appropriate. The man doesn't care about what you like or hobbies. No other men as friends either because they just want to have sex with you.

Sex is important but, in an LTR, it's not the only thing. However, in a committed monogamous relationship, it's one of the only things that she alone can provide. He can get friendship, game nights, shop talk, etc. from the boys. He still needs you for sex. Maybe you have hobbies and interests in common (God I hope so), maybe not.

As a young woman, it's too risky to be with a RP man. You will be dropped when you get older.

Pure projection. It's Hypergamy that drives this, and that's a female trait. Men tend to drop wives when they neglect the relationship and the husband's needs (commonly, they stop putting out). In a non-committed LTR, well, yeah, he'll drop you, because he owes you nothing. It's the difference between buying a car and leasing one.

They wont marry either (courts are against them).

They will if they want kids. They will if they can trust you, and if you offer enough. If you're high enough value. But you have to make it worth the risk. Most women either aren't high enough value or won't put in the effort to be high enough value.

Gee where do I sign up?

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Kay_Lore · 2022-02-21T01:54:46+00:00

Most men are red-pilled by default without the label. It’s when they grow up and get tainted by feminism, their upbringing and society as a whole that suppresses those behaviors/emotions.

Blightning421 · 2022-02-21T13:10:05+00:00

Strawman
Strawman
Condoms and birth control
True but by 35 most folks (men and women) hit the wall
Absolutely ridiculous strawman

2022-02-21T01:38:06+00:00

be with

Not a problem

RP eschews commitment

pokemin49 · 2022-02-21T08:00:48+00:00

It's pretty funny that you think you can identify a RP man. They're just charismatic well-dressed guys who know how to flirt. GL avoiding them.

themostgianthorse · 2022-02-21T02:38:22+00:00

“what do these men really want!?”

The answer is respect.

AnonymousAndy2018 · 2022-02-21T13:39:45+00:00

Hilarious how women are so “repulsed” by RP men.

All those hot men at the club... you think they act Bluepilled?

Absolutely not.

Liberal women are NOT generally attracted to liberal men.

Truth hurts

WorldWideButtCheeks · 2022-02-21T04:42:06+00:00

NUMBER ONE: Don't divorce me, walk away with half my money and take the kids while playing mind games meant to ruin my life because of playing out some petty and bitter evolutionary strategy. I'd hope I'm legitimately ruining your life, hitting you for you to do this. However, greater than 50% chance this will happen to me.

NUMBER TWO: Actually like me. I get that female sex drive caves. But don't start to resent me or feel disgusted. If you do, have the self-respect to introspect and don't make your vagina mania ruin the future of your kids and the marriage we've had up to that point.

NUMBER THREE: Actually like me. Reciprocity. We take care of each other. My dick is not poison shame to your soul merely because I'm not a rich, tall, hot, impossible man and you don't resent me for not being that guy while deep down you regret that you got older and wrinkled and the guys you really wanted stopped paying attention to you.

Now, let's say you're arguing that I must not be very hot and I wouldn't have a chance with you. In that case, newsflash: the men you're focused on have 20 other women after them. Why in the hell would they pick you. Whether you're a CEO woman or not?

luliloo · 2022-02-21T09:00:13+00:00

There are inconsistencies because different men have different opinions and goals. Shocker.

Don’t take everything to heart and you’ll get some good information about human nature.

sebwiers · 2022-02-21T12:41:12+00:00

TRP makes a hell of a lot of assumptions about what a man wants. Which I think is one reason it has rather narrow acceptence.

2022-02-21T06:12:50+00:00

Tell us you don't understand RP without saying it.

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WorldWideButtCheeks · 2022-02-21T07:17:52+00:00

I mean.. For me its basically been if i like you i like you💁‍♀️ simple i dont follow any pill codes

OccasionSensitive398 · 2022-02-21T13:01:32+00:00

i just started watching rp on youtube Well that is your mistake. Almost all rp content on youtube is bad. Its made by ppl who just want to capitalize on desperate, vulnarable and often already “emotianally damaged” men. I would advise everyone to disregard it. True rp advice isnt this shit.

itssame_mario · 2022-02-21T15:21:46+00:00

There are so many different variations of what being redpilled is. It wasn’t always “You gotta be alpha Chad thundercock”. It was about bettering yourself physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually so that you would be a good man that would find and marry a good woman and have a family.

BlackPorcelainDoll · 2022-02-21T15:51:41+00:00

"Red Pill Man" is different from a man that just has some ideas that align. The Red Pill man has institutionalized his identity into an religious ideology about females.

A man that just likes sleeping and playing with tons of women and not attracted to chicks over 30 is no problem and mostly harmless. It is like comparing the Taliban v. non-practicing person that believes in 'spirituality'.

Ok_Worldliness_6657 · 2022-02-21T15:53:52+00:00

I think y’all may be painting with too broad a brush. Yes a successful man wants (and can get) young beautiful eligible women. But a man has to tell u himself what he wants, I agree there’s lots of men talking crazy, but for what’s it’s worth a relationship is between the people involved. No RP man can tell u what ur future is just like no FEM woman can tell u what u should do with ur life. Trust ur instincts and meet people on the level they show u they are on. Let life and nature take care of the rest

Drive-By-Cuckers · 2022-02-21T15:59:03+00:00

The really redpilled men will always be in unhappy relationships as adults because they don’t want a wife, they just want guaranteed sex and the social approval that comes with getting married

cholmanattom · 2022-02-21T16:30:52+00:00

Two sides of the same coin, everyone want the best out of their limited resources. Refer from your points, Here's my two cent.

I agree that it's stupid, how can a person live without having a way to earn money?
Your body your choices, but that does not mean your future partner should unconditionally accept your sexual past. This goes for all genders.
The ones who cause the problems, aren't the ones who suffer the consequences. Hot but irresponsible men created single mothers but everyone want your average Joe to clean up. TRP want to imitate the hot guy and avoid being the white knight. The root cause is those hot but irresponsible people, not your everyday clueless guys.
Any age can date, but different ages get different dating results. Beware that all the attentions you got, might just means that they want to get into your pant, especially those 'hot but irresponsible men'
People in monogamous relationships must not having sex with anyone except their partners. Is this too hard to understand? Whether it's girls night out or guys get together, must not involve with cheating on their partners. People nowadays only think with their genital organs.

Feel free to argue, but please be fair for all genders. You can't treat women like toys or men like ATMs.

MrHipcoin · 2022-02-21T16:53:41+00:00

How can you get cheated on? If he is red pill he already told you he is not in a relationship with you

Thinkingard · 2022-02-21T18:41:29+00:00

This is a non sequitur. You are attempting to delegitimize an entire group of people who probably don't exist. There is no reason to believe redpill men live up to every single idea redpill men have ever come up with anymore than there is reason to believe all Christians abstain from sex until marriage (and at least there there is a strong argument to be made that they shouldn't be fornicating).

People don't follow instructions like machines and TRP is no exception. No amount of straw men can create a real person until you've experienced one individual following all of those tenants and ascribing them to TRP.

Competitive_Pen2282 · 2022-02-21T19:59:04+00:00

It's not like if it is too risky to be with red pill man, it rather doesn't have any benefits

r2o_abile · 2022-02-21T23:18:32+00:00

It's too risky for a man too imo.

Financial burden Leadership burden Stress burden Not know your children Have no social life Be manipulated. No recourse if you're unable to provide. Susceptible to charlatans including gold diggers and "buy my course" fake gurus.

Friedidli · 2022-02-22T00:08:08+00:00

Here is my advice as an ex redpill.

Do what you want.

How ever here are suggestions -

Do make a career for your self. Your future autonomy will thank you.

When it comes time for you to settle, try for the best mate you can but also realise that the higher than you men are all being competed for by many women in the same position as you.

Ideally you should be willing to go for a less successful man as long as you both live each other ... You should accept that your lifestyle is a function of your earning capacity not his.

The plus side is you have a partner who will man the trenches at home so that you can kick ass at your gurl boss asspirations.

Try to look for fulfilling relationships rather than hookups.

Hookups just keeps the loneliness at bay in the moment and worsens it after.

If you are fine with being alone fir the rest of your life, ignore everything i said before.

masochisticanalwhore · 2022-02-22T15:44:49+00:00

The leaders have goals very different than the rank and file. It is a cult.

abaxeron · 2022-02-22T17:17:39+00:00

The Red Pill is a reaction to women's attitude towards men.

The option to fix the attitude is still there. We will be waiting. For eternity, if necessary.

iamwhoiam101101110 · 2022-02-21T03:23:27+00:00

No other men as friends either because they just want to have sex with you.

This one is obvious... men and women cannot be friends in most contexts, in the context of family or family/friends' significant others yes you can be friends, men and women cannot be friends if there is any mutual attraction at all and that is almost the definition of a friendship so yeah if you believe that you're a dumb fuck

Lateralanouncer · 2022-02-21T03:49:25+00:00

I will clear up your misunderstandings. Men's sexual strategy is different to woman's. Woman are gatekeepers of sex, men commitment reasorces.

professional career, especially being a boss

Woman put being a boss before her family; if a man wants a family boss, chicks are not suitable.

value is your beauty; however, you will be dumped, turning age 30

Incorrect, this is for a woman who rides the cc (hoes).

25 and be a virgin or only been with 1 other person.

This is the peak value (wife mother) for a woman. To get the highest value man, it makes logical sence.

40 year old

It refers to the wealthy HVM. Red Pill actually suggests that women should marry wealthy men. It's in a woman's benefit for her family and children.

single moms

Is a low quality woman period, plate at most. Women are the gate keepers of sex and are responsible for who they let fuck them her past is important

30 and hit the wall.

Male sexual strategy is different to female. We are gatekeepers of commitment, etc. Or the prize as we say. High-risk pregnancy starts from this age. Yes, older women can date the reference is a woman worth investing in our family, etc. Into days society a 30 woman is a slut to proven innocent. Men are the gatekeepers of commitment/investment, not sex. For a family investment, we want a young fertile woman. This is not to say older woman have no social value; it is more around families investment value and etc.

No more girls nights or weekends It's 2022 woman are doing slut walks. If a man is to give a woman a partially traditional life, she needs to be traditional. It's not wiverly if a woman twerks during the weekend wife's just shouldn't do that.

lowlifedougal · 2022-02-21T09:19:56+00:00

men might cheat but they wont be "droping" any women if she ages out. thats a womens sexual stratergy , not men. Men are the true romantics and will have a sense of loyalty to a loyal woman,,,, even if he is no loner sexually attracted. Male love is actually developed by her abi;ity to be loyal in the midst of temptation.

2022-02-21T03:12:17+00:00

I mean none of this is wrong……..not all of it is right but it definitely isn’t wrong all the way.

Ranziel · 2022-02-21T07:15:03+00:00

The Wall just means you no longer can easily attract the men you actually want to attract, hence being forced to settle for less.

mydlo96 · 2022-02-21T13:16:08+00:00

As long as you are not sucking his dick you are not one of his plates, no risk baby

ZealousidealAd7191 · 2022-02-21T14:39:15+00:00

…yeah i disagree with the majority of your characterization of RP philosophy. So rather than address your straw-man, I’ll just leave you ladies here to talk amongst yourselves

K1ngOfClubs · 2022-02-21T15:24:41+00:00

Wow, seven paragraphs of wrong…..

Title	It's too risky for a woman to be with a Red Pilll man.
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Date	February 21, 2022 1:33 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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