A professor in my hometown, Fredericton New Brunswick, is on a hunger strike for the decision made by the courts to pay 83% of his salary to his ex-wife.

texasjoe · 2013-11-04T01:47:55+00:00

Being called Peter Pan sounds a whole lot better than getting married nowadays

spankytheham · 2013-11-04T02:17:15+00:00

What I don't understand is why any person would feel the need to financially ruin someone like that! He worked hard for what he had, and the courts jut took it away.

Xerxes250 · 2013-11-04T03:09:24+00:00

83% wow. It sounds like he really didn't have a choice in going hungry.

JaydenPope · 2013-11-04T02:55:15+00:00

So she sued him for alimony the moment after losing her govt job ? What stopped her from getting EI and looking for another job ?

Canada's unemployment rate is very low and employers are begging people to work right now, a govt job will get you anywhere you want to. This is clear abuse of the system.

I don't like the "maintenance" word cause we don't have that crap in canada, she's just being a lazy bitch and should be told to grow up and get working.

DeeBased · 2013-11-04T08:41:29+00:00

Dave Foley (News Radio) said that he was ordered to pay $500,000 in child support immediately plus another $17,000+ per month or be put in jail for 6 months. In Canada. He had to leave to come to America, because he says he would never get out of jail. The six month term would go by and they would ask him "Do you have the half-mil plus the accumulating monthly child support? He would have to say "No, I've been in jail," and they would put him back in jail. So he lives here now and never gets to see his kids. While his ex-wife travels the world. Incredibly, the female judge said "Your inability to pay this amount has no bearing on this judgement."

tbow2000 · 2013-11-04T01:39:59+00:00

Here's a short article on it

KimJongSwag · 2013-11-04T06:43:42+00:00

If that happened to me i'd quit my job and sit on the dole.

Amunium · 2013-11-04T07:15:37+00:00

Just throwing it out there: What would happen if he left the country for somewhere less insane? Would a country that would never impose such a ridiculous alimony on him in the first place still extradite him?

joedude · 2013-11-04T06:05:15+00:00

Furthering my long established point that in canada if you get married and divorced no matter what either of the spouses financial circumstances were, the woman will always collect from the man.

I remember reading about a wealthy businesswoman divorcing a guy who was basically unemplyed, and took his car and is now collecting alimony that basically amounts to pennies for her, awesome.

oshout · 2013-11-04T03:07:44+00:00

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only_does_reposts · 2013-11-04T05:09:52+00:00

So, what can we do?

shoatGow · 2013-11-04T03:58:43+00:00

They won't let him starve on the grounds that he won't be able to pay if he's dead.

2013-11-04T05:00:49+00:00

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scottsouth · 2013-11-04T07:30:33+00:00

83%?! That number makes me wont to vomit. How ANYONE can support this is beyond me.

GltyUntlPrvnInncnt · 2013-11-04T07:17:01+00:00

And women wonder why men don't want to get married...go figure!

PoliticoG · 2013-11-04T04:59:44+00:00

Wow, only 83%!? They didn't even ask for all three kids and his soul?

silverionmox · 2013-11-04T06:57:01+00:00

How did the courts determine the 83% value? Did the court overcount how much he earns when calculating his alimony? Or is this typical for Canada?

logicalduke · 2013-11-04T09:29:09+00:00

As a man with a Colombian ex-wife, I can truthfully say I am not surprised.

Ding_batman · 2013-11-04T09:07:13+00:00

If it weren't true it would be satire. This is beyond the realm of ridiculous.

TimmyBuffet · 2013-11-04T06:45:49+00:00

Gotta get that Massey prenup

2013-11-04T14:46:20+00:00

he's going to starve to death. nothing about this system will change. ever. that's what i've learned in my own shitty experience with it.

i pay 600 bucks a month to a woman who hasn't worked in three years. i see my daughter 10% of the time to her mother seeing her 90%.

no amount of documentation, reason, or argument has changed this one bit, and now that i got a better job to better provide for myself and my daughter's future, i'm afraid to keep fighting for more time knowing that they'll just take more of my money.

Mein_Tarnaccount · 2013-11-04T11:55:08+00:00

Welcome to the patriarchy.

springy · 2013-11-04T14:39:36+00:00

My ex-boss in New York was taking home 12.5% of his after tax salary, because his first wife got 50% of his take-home, his second wife got 25%, and his third wife got 12.5%. Astonishingly, he had married for fourth time.

SilencingNarrative · 2013-11-04T16:01:36+00:00

Such injustice in the name of sexist gender roles. I am sure feminists, who as we all know are defined by their opposition to unfair gender roles and sexism, that's the definition don't you know, will be all over this with a vengence. So you see there is no need for a men's movement to make noise about cases like this.

housebrickstocking · 2013-11-04T04:39:13+00:00

Can I ask what laws are in play when this happens?

I'm an Aussie - "child support" is generally all you get stabbed with, but that is a sticking point in implementation too. There is no provision or assumption of Maintenance or Alimony.

tbow2000 · 2013-11-04T18:41:38+00:00

I would really like to hear the other side to this story, or see a copy of the order that gives his spouse 83% of his income.

The story, as he tells it, would be pretty much impossible under Canadian Law.

The fact that he is allegedly paying his wife's lawyer's bills is also very telling. The only time where someone will be responsible for paying the other side's legal bills is if a judge awards "solicitor-client costs". These awards are incredibly rare in family law, and are reserved for situations with extraordinarily bad conduct by one of the parties.

I'm going to go on the record and say that there is far more to the story than he is telling us (and probably more to the story than he himself understands). He almost certainly was self-representing, and may well have completely misunderstood the order.

MarvelousMagikarp · 2013-11-04T19:46:26+00:00

Jeez, that's just...holy shit. 83%?

I'm surprised they didn't ask for his first-born child and both kidneys.

SMZ72 · 2013-11-04T23:53:48+00:00

So considering his tax is 30%+. Does that mean he makes negative money?

2013-11-04T05:04:42+00:00

"I married..."

Oh, well, there's the problem right there!

2013-11-04T13:36:52+00:00

Here's an article from a local paper about the issue:

http://www.newbrunswickbeacon.ca/35620/i-heard/

chrispdx · 2013-11-04T16:04:51+00:00

This worst thing about situations like this is that it has nothing to do with the care of the children. This is all about punishment. If it was about the child, an escrow account would be created and a court-appointed rep would reimburse the mother (or father, attempting to be somewhat gender-neutral about the issue) for reasonable child-related expenses. But the child custody/welfare legal system has allowed itself to be manipulated to act as a weapon against people who can't afford the high-priced lawyers and the ungodly time and effort it would take to fight someone so well armed.

2013-11-04T19:02:13+00:00

Another reason to never get married.

ZimbaZumba · 2013-11-04T17:35:32+00:00

Alimony laws are a mess because any viable advocacy for the ordinary guy had been stomped on by government and the behemoth of the Feminist lobby machine. Men suffer payments and essentially indentured labor that are criminal.

This will only change, and I bet very rapidly, when women start earning more than men. All of a sudden arguments concerning fairness, previously outside the realm of reasonable discussion, will start oozing out of the woodwork in a torrent.

Kuato2012 · 2013-11-04T10:46:31+00:00

Question: Is it possible for men to prevent this kind of shit from happening by including some clause in the marriage contract?

gnimsh · 2013-11-04T11:24:48+00:00

Wow. Most people just go on unemployment when they lose their job.

bottlefly22 · 2013-11-04T12:35:31+00:00

Marriage and divorce settlements are not fair. This needs to change and I feel really bad for this guy.

xJai · 2013-11-04T19:08:47+00:00

Holy shit 83%..

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2013-11-05T13:40:33+00:00

Funny how the Patriarchy will treat men so callously in order to make the lives of women easier.

2013-11-04T13:09:18+00:00

Don't. Get. Married. Just don't. Please.

2013-11-04T13:11:53+00:00

The more they say this is still "a man's world" the more I'm sure that it's not. Maybe it was I don't know. but now it's definitely not.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2013-11-04T19:20:55+00:00

You aren't a person. You're an object that exists for the betterment of this woman.

Hey look, actual objectification. And legally enshrined at that.

I'll expect the feminist protests any second now.

Kuato2012 · 2013-11-04T14:49:36+00:00

in my opinion, the men's rights movement would do best to focus entirely on issues of family, finance, and custody. many of the other issues feel "extreme" to outsiders, but these sorts of stories are so common that if we focused on them, you'd have a great number of people in our corner immediately.

men are not cash machines. fathers are necessary for healthy children. mothers who refuse to work and collect money from exes and the government are a drain on our society, and a crippling injury to the development of children's emotional well-being.

towmeaway · 2013-11-04T09:45:01+00:00

Having watched the movie Blow convinced me to keep a healthy distance from Colombian women.

_Connor · 2013-11-04T15:59:56+00:00

That's actually so fucked up. I just don't understand where the logic is that it's fair for 83% of his salary to go to his wife. Women preach they want equal rights and responsibilities as men, yet they're fine with taking almost 85% of his hard work right out of his hands. If and when I ever get married, Pre-Nup is definitely happening, no matter how much it would piss off my Fiancee. These stories are just way to common now. What's it going to take to change divorce and family law to give men equal playing ground?

johnny_gunn · 2013-11-04T18:00:18+00:00

Do you have a link that isn't from a blog?

Pecanpig · 2013-11-05T02:15:53+00:00

Is he really, or can he just not afford to eat and is improvising?

garblegarble12 · 2013-11-04T10:55:17+00:00

I'm sorry, but even in the sexist world we live in today I find this story a little hard to believe. A quick google search only uncovers an article on the fact he has gone nuts and is protesting outside of a court. The numbers seem too high to be realistic. I want to hear the other side of the story.

TPRT · 2013-11-04T04:11:34+00:00

Good for that man, good for him

AndrewLevin · 2013-11-04T20:39:48+00:00

Typical horror story. Canada's feminist family courts are in the business of dispensing hatred, not justice. Canada is a human rights hell hole where half of the population live as semi-humans with no legal protection and no legal rights.

RustyWinger · 2013-11-04T05:48:21+00:00

The way I see it the best solution is to make marriage a situation where unless otherwise agreed divorce means 50:50 split (maybe some exemptions where one spouse purposefully burns down the house when they storm out or whatever) of property. I understand the idea of alimony, the idea that a stay at home spouse needs financial support makes sense and in a society where the marriage contracts infers such a responsibility I can see merit to it. But the ambiguity is a problem and what needs to happen is that all future marriage licences be on the condition of no alimony in the absence of a pre-nup. I'm sure that many couples will want to alter this, that's fine, freedom of contracts, but it will end this "how much alimony is enough" bullshit.

2013-11-04T18:23:40+00:00

Were this applied to a woman it would be misogyny. How I hate this world. Somebody better terminate that bitch and absolve him of this bullshit verdict.

UnpluggedUnglued · 2013-11-04T16:50:05+00:00

I don't get why guys don't learn from lessons like this. No reason to get married, especially when there's products like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z2SGlOV6-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player

3rdLevelRogue · 2013-11-04T21:33:42+00:00

If that ever happened to me, I'd just kill my wife and the person who forced me to pay that. You destroy my life and future prospects, I take yours from you.

Ding_batman · 2013-11-04T08:11:08+00:00

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Title	A professor in my hometown, Fredericton New Brunswick, is on a hunger strike for the decision made by the courts to pay 83% of his salary to his ex-wife.
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Date	November 4, 2013 1:07 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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