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[–]leosandlattesred pill | hypergamy enjoyer 💖🎀🍓[M] [score hidden] 1 year ago stickied commentlocked comment (0 children) | Copy Link

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A woman with a high bodycount is much worse than a man with a high bodycount, and it's not even close. (I'm only talking about heterosexual people.)

It takes social skill for a man to be high-N, so being a high-N man demonstrates some sort of social value. It takes zero skill at all for a woman to be high-N. And not only does being a high-N woman not demonstrate any social value, it actually reflects negatively on her character because it demonstrates a severe lack of dating standards, since women are normally very selective about who they have sex with.
For women, sex is typically a much more romantic thing than for men. So a high-N woman is more likely to be alpha widowed and it'll be harder for her to commit to you if she's still got Chad on her mind, whereas men are more polygynous by nature so they'll likely have less trouble getting attached to a new woman after a breakup.
A high-N woman is much more likely to have STIs because it's much easier for women to contract STIs from sex.

You're all free to dogpile me, but good luck disproving any of my points.

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The only one I kind of agreed with at first is #3. But even then, so long as people use condoms and test clean…are STIs a serious dating issue that men think about? I’ve never heard of men worrying about that, especially considering that men generally aren’t as concerned about their health/safety as women are, let alone because they are less likely to contract STIs. I think they care more about being compared to other men than they care about catching an STI.

For #1 I disagree because the most casually promiscuous people I’ve known, both men and women, were social butterflies and generally charismatic and adventurous who don’t really care about their partners’ n count. It seems mainly the people who actually care at all to judge it negatively are themselves low n with very different lifestyles. As in they probably don’t cross paths much for this to matter.

And #2 I disagree because the promiscuous men I’ve known also tend to have their own attachment issues that they don’t work on, even if it’s not specifically being hung up on an ex. I.e promiscuity is often a symptom of a bigger problem, not the cause of it.

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To me a high-n count means he's more likely to be sexually open and experienced; will make a better lover; be far more fun in bed; less neurotic and uptight; and less judgemental. Most guys here would consider me high-n (double digits) but most of my boyfriends and casual sex partners have been with way more people than I have. I can't really ever see myself being compatible with low-n guys. It makes it really easy to not care when the feeling is mutual, as I'm not attracted to neurotic sexually inhibited men who think me taking their dick makes me less attractive.

I don't think all low-n men are like that, but I do think I definitely rule out a lot of them with my n-count compatibility. Just to be clear I don't specifically filter or select for high-n men, but my own compatibility kind of naturally does that anyway.

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Never? No, just not always. In the minority of cases. Are you new to this? Do you not understand that when generalizing nobody means "every single" something unless they explicitly specified that's what they meant? We are talking about people, you always imagine the word "almost" when a general statement is made. Of course, there are exceptions. They prove nothing, so no, you mistake can't actually have merit just because there are examples of what you mentioned.

No, it's not wrong. It's definitely correct when it comes to the overwhelming majority of men.

Yes, a factual statement correcting your mistake because what you said sounded like generalization about men. As in men with low counts or whatever find women less attractive for sleeping with them. And no, that's a false statement. There might exist such men, but generally when it comes to men or even sexually inhibited men, it's sleeping with multiple other men that makes women repulsive, not sleeping with those men.

It is asinine because the originally quoted piece is asinine.

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Never? No, just not always.

Good thing quantity wasn't specified in my OC

Yet you still came out the gate with blanket condemnation

Are you new to this? Do you not understand that when generalizing nobody means "every single" something unless they explicitly specified that's what they meant?

The condescension is hilarious

Let's review:

I said

I'm not attracted to neurotic sexually inhibited men who think me taking their dick makes me less attractive.

I don't think all low-n men are like that

You came out the gate, guns blasting with

Nobody thinks you taking their dick makes you less attractive.

"Nobody" isn't a generalization, it is a specific, objective, absolute term

The fact that you don't understand the meaning of the words you chose to use but want to act like I'm the idiot here is chef's kiss

It's definitely correct when it comes to the overwhelming majority of men.

What you said wasn't "the overwhelming majority"

It was "nobody"

Yes, a factual statement

You also still don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion

Your disagreement doesn't make your opinion a fact

correcting your mistake

My opinion isn't a "mistake"

because what you said sounded like generalization about men.

Duh it was a generalization, the very nature of the question being asked lent itself to generalized answers 🤦🏿🤦🏿

How tf is that triggering to you?!

As in men with low counts or whatever find women less attractive for sleeping with them.

They absolutely do, especially the virgin fetishizers

If the biggest or primary appeal of a woman is her virginity, then she must necessarily lose value and appeal once he fucks her

And no, that's a false statement. There might exist such men

🤦🏿🤦🏿 This is getting really old, I'm done after this comment

You are completely incapable of understanding what words mean and that makes communication a Sisyphean task

You keep calling my opinions "false" and then conceding merit

but generally when it comes to men or even sexually inhibited men, it's sleeping with multiple other men that makes women repulsive, not sleeping with those men.

And many of them also look down on women for sleeping with them too 🤷🏿

[–]Intelligent-InsightBlue Pill Man [score hidden] 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, your context was implying men as a group if you read everything you said before saying you're not attracted to those men. You mention "most guys here" yourself. I didn't imagine it. And no, most guys here or anywhere else don't find you less attractive for taking their dick, as stated.

Yes, I understand what the words I choose mean, that's why I choose them. And yes, I understand what a fact is, and what I said is factual. Most men would find you less attractive for taking other men's dicks, but not theirs.

Right, as you admit yourself - it was a generalization. And your generalization is incorrect. It's about other men's dicks, not theirs. Virgin fetishizers would have an issue if a girl is not a virgin when she gets with them, not when she gives her virginity to them.

Yes, your opinion is a mistake. Opinions can be mistakes, see people in whose opinion the earth is flat, for example.

Yeah no, many of them also look down? How many? If it's some non-negligible percentage, I would need some evidence. If it's negligible, then it's negligible. Sure, some men like that exist. Anything possible exists, but as you said yourself - the talk is about generalizations.

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I just started to lurk on this page so i hope I'm not repeating what many may have said before, but judging people on their n-count alone lacks nuance. It may be that highly promiscuous people have issues with impulse control, low self-esteem, addictive behavior, have a history of sexual trauma, act out, etc., and if these issues go untreated, then their prospects for a healthy long-term relationship are that much diminished.

On the other hand, it's also possible that a person simply has a high libido and is sex positive, had their fun, and are now looking for a stable exclusive relationship. Does that make them a unicorn? I don't know but it seems plausible. Maybe with that out of their system they're more ready for commitment than someone who was chaste until marriage, or married their high school sweet heart.

If my partner had a high n-count we would definitely discuss particularly the dead on question whether they could be exclusive with me. That's a healthy response. Sulking about a partner's past with latent jealousy isn't. Particularly with men that want their female partner to be a virgin but want to sleep with them asap.

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um, im actually seeing a lot of people saying you don't have to disclose you're a virgin. confused.

rape by deception is a legal term and it doesn't really apply to situations like this. It's supposed to be like, you blindfold your GF and she thinks its you who has sex with her but it's your brother, etc.

I mean if you want to keep your conscious clear though:

virginity is a construct so to ask if you are one it really wouldn't be deceiving to say no, if you consider a number of things you could do "not make you a virgin"

for example, multiple people believe that inserting a tampon takes your virginity....

by that logic, fuck a sextoy. you can now say you're not a virgin. (or insert a tampon, I guess.)

you could also do online sex roleplay, hook up with someone, go on grindr, etc, if you really need to have that experience to say "i've had x amount of partners."

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Women and men don’t have to have the same preferences.

That’s what guys on Reddit say. Multiple studies actually say that men and women both prefer someone with fewer previous partners.

Some of those studies actually suggest that men are judged more harshly than women for high n count.

https://www.psypost.org/new-body-count-study-reveals-how-sexual-history-shapes-social-perceptions/

https://www.psypost.org/new-study-identifies-the-ideal-number-of-sexual-partners-according-to-social-norms/

https://www.uncp.edu/sites/default/files/purc/posters/courtney_britt.pdf

That being said, individual men and individual women do have various preferences. If a high n man who cares about n count finds a low n woman who doesn’t care about n count, then that’s all well and good. Preferences are fine.

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Hehe. I have a ludicrous story that I've shared with I think only one human in real life.

I was a medical student on my ObGyn rotation, and happened to be quite pregnant myself. Med students on rotation spend a ton of time in the hospital, basically doing make work and being terrified and trying to observe the task practice of medicine. I, not interested in ObGyn and 37 weeks pregnant, was not a star student but I wasn't horrible, I tried to pull my weight and not be a drag.

One day, a lovely healthy woman checks in to have her baby. We're supposed to go chat her up and get her permission to observe the delivery. She's delightful and has already told the staff that she strongly supports medical education and welcomes the students. We are sent around in teams of two, I'm paired with a kind, nicely groomed, gay guy that I am pleasantly social with but not at all close with.

We enter the room, ask the questions, she is lovely. Her husband is snoozing on the couch by the window (this is fine, she is like ten hours into a 36 hours process, that's why the window couch is nice). But then I recognize him.

And blush and leave. And tell my rotation pair guy that I cannot attend this delivery. Because I've fucked the father. He was an ex, and we broke up under weird circumstances he was being very odd about his availability, distant, but then the last time I saw him to make it all clear he was acting devastated, like sat on the curb and cried in public and that was the end. He was a fine enough person, just was having some bumps that he needed to get through and it looked like he did because now he has a lovely wife. And kid. That I'm absolutely not going to watch being born, I'm not introducing that drama to their life. This is me, exit stage left.

I could have probably described it more professionally, "Hey Matt, I'm not going to ask to watch this delivery, I socially knew the father, it would be awkward".

But no. I turned to my colleague in training and blurted out "I fucked the father, I can't go back in there". With my huge pregnant belly. Then I died of embarrassment several times over.

Hehehe. It's 18 years later, my husband and our kids are good. I don't keep tabs on that other couple.

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They’d only be together if they shared a social circle still. But even among strangers, if I had been with a guy before and heard him telling this new woman how he was all pious and valued relationships over sex, I’d definitely tell her that he was playing her.

But unless you’re dating in a small town. This would never happen. I don’t think I’ve ever run into an ex in a big city.

Personally I think guys are way more telling when it comes to women they’ve fucked. Even when they think they are hiding it: they will do something weird - like be a little bit too friendly with a woman that’s supposedly an acquaintance and boom - you know.

I was once in a room with an ex and a guy I was dating at the time (we were at a friends party and they guy I was dating knew the ex would be there). He bet me that he could figure out who it was…dude had zero clue.

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They can be unattractive, attractive, or horrible looking, it doesn’t matter

Unfortunately it’s a strong form of disgust and I just feel bad for her. I would find it repulsive to participate in a threesome where two men have sex with one girl. I’ve been invited to things like that and I have NEVER participated

The disgust comes from the idea that in nature, she could get pregnant and she wouldn’t even know who the father is, and she’s fine with that, even though there is birth control now, our instincts haven’t caught up.

Also I find it (MMF threesome) degrading to the woman (and also the men in a sense) which is a big reason that I never will participate in that.

If she had a threesome with 2 women, or with 1 man and another woman, that would be completely different, I could be open to dating her, I would have a preference against it but there isn’t really much of a disgust response

Anything related to paternity will make the biological male brain freak out, for most men

I don’t want this to be true because it would be easier for me to date if it wasn’t, but unfortunately it is true

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Hmm, if I was a woman looking to date, I might view FFM threesomes as somewhat of a red flag, but I would not say they are degrading, throughout evolution humans had a tendency and draw towards monogamy but also towards polyamorous relations with multiple females and one man. (Becuase more men died in combat, and several other reasons). On a large scale, the opposite, (several men and one female) pretty much never worked and the men just killed each other. Because of that strong instinct to secure paternity.

So to be clear most times those two men having sex with that woman views her as an object that they would never love or have a serious relationship with, because of what she’s doing (the MMF threesome) and they are doing this thing to her, knowing that it’s “lowering” her and that they don’t respect her at all, and they’re dishonest about it, that’s why it’s degrading

Even though I don’t like promiscuity, In a FFM threesome it could be viewed as the women “raising” that man’s status, however future dating prospects will probably view it as a red flag, even though they respect his ability to attract women

If the men in The MMF threesome are Bi I would say it’s less degrading, but still degrading

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Well I don’t care about anyone finding my woman unattractive at least, I’ve heard a lot of male friends say that also, but I would care if people were calling her ugly, because that’s unnecessary and disrespectful

I meant that the social competence of being able to attract many women is attractive, and there is a tendency for women to view a guy who is in a relationship with a pretty woman, or can pull a lot of women, as more attractive

This was my experience when I became more attractive, once the first pretty girl talked about liking me, many others followed, and there was a noticeable shift

You could definitely be right about the attractiveness being the real fundamental reason when girls like guys who can pull other girls

But there is a tendency for women to see a man who can pull and think that there “has to be something” to that guy

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Oh I mean for the instinct of male disgust, that doesn’t matter.

It’s like getting afraid of heights if you are on top of a balcony far up in the air, it doesn’t matter that you know logically that the balcony’s structure and is safe, human emotions are still stuck in the savanna.

Anything that’s excessively promiscuous will make the male brain subconsciously think that his future child might not be his, and that gives you the disgust response, like a strong “ick”, you’re not consciously thinking this, this is the theory as to why men posses such instincts

I really feel bad for some women because no one told them this and they were encouraged to do crazy promiscuous things, that didn’t even give them any happiness and fulfillment, and now their future dating is messed up, and a large portion of the men who take them seriously are strange and might have cuck fantasies, some guys will pretend to be okay with her past to get into her pants :/

And to be clear I’m 23 years old with a 4 bodycount and I wouldn’t mind a woman that had a 7 or maybe 9 bodycount, of course I’d prefer a woman who has the same as me or below, but it’s fine. However, if I find out my gf has a bodycount of 30+ and has been consensually gangbanged I instantly get disgusted and loose feelings, so that’s unfortunate

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That’s good to hear

I don’t trust gossip so I can only tell you about one girl I know for sure did this

I know one girl who I talked to at a party, I know for a fact she enjoyed sleeping with 8 men in a Gangbang, and also sleeps with several men in a month.

When I met her she seemed SUPER innocent, it kinda fucked with my head when I found out

I honestly feel bad for her, she though all these people were “sex positive” and then she found out one of the guys had gossiped about her and called her a “prostitute”, when this happened she seemed very hurt and she immediately stopped seeing these men and got into a monogamous relationship with a boyfriend, they aren’t together anymore

I had an opportunity for easy sex with this girl but I never would, so I didn’t, and I’m thankful that I didn’t, because I don’t like to contribute to degrading her

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If, for example, a prospective partner has an N count of only 9, there is only a 10% probability that you will be the most satisfactory partner they’ve had.

But you won't ever know if you can be the best until you sleep with her and TRY to become her best. It's why my personal rule is that I must try and become the best. If she says I can't because my dick isn't big enough or I'm not dominant enough, then it's fair for me to look for someone for whom I can be the best. Someone Im more compatible with.

This is also why I don't care about n-counts. Because women can get sex easily. And she could have just slept with like 10 different men a few times, in drunken sessions that were horrible.

The n-count doesn't tell you too much about whether you can be her best sex or not. Only sleeping with her can tell you that.

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I meant that the concerns related to a partner’s N count largely don’t apply to women. Men need to do more than women to sexually satisfy their partner, so they care more about whether or not they are physically capable of being maximally attractive/stimulating to women.

The second part of your previous comment seems to assume that I’m downplaying the importance of everything other than penis size and physical attractiveness when it comes to sexual pleasure.

All of those other things are also important, but the reason why penis size and physical attractiveness is discussed more often in the context of N count is, those factors are mostly immutable…which is why experiencing sex with more men makes a woman less likely to experience peak sexual pleasure with any given prospective partner.

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I didn’t assert that having a big penis means that a man is automatically good at sex. Most women who claim not to care about size usually fall into these categories:

They love or have loved a man who has a smaller than her preferred size penis, so their mind will protect them from ruining their relationship by thinking about it.
They haven’t experienced sex with a man who has a larger than average penis.
The men with larger than average penises they’ve had sex with weren’t skilled or didn’t care about their pleasure.
They haven’t had enough sexual experience with men who have larger than average penises. Most women who have told me they prefer the sensation of large penises said that it took some time to get used to, even at the start of a session now that they’re used to it.
They haven’t given birth before.
They have vaginismus.

Also, nothing about caring about N count precludes a man from caring about satisfying their partner. It actually makes it more likely that you will satisfy your partner the best she’s ever experienced.

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Title	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD
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Date	January 18, 2025 5:00 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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