Doesn’t it seem like men only value women who they think are out of their league?

Platipus6 · 2021-11-08T21:50:47+00:00

The absolute worst treatment I've received is from men deeply beneath me. They're seething with rage that I remind them of their inadequacies and incompetencies. They felt justified in treating me like garbage because who else but a defective woman would date their asses?

The best treatment was from a tall, slim, handsome, intelligent, kind man. He was impressed with me and happy to learn, because he wanted to improve himself.

To an LVM, improving means that he's currently shit. Solving a problem or changing means he has to acknowledge that he's currently not great.

Nonnasaysfuckoff · 2021-11-08T18:39:28+00:00

They don't even value them. They absolutely love taking a woman "out of their league" and destroying everything about her.

blackmetalbetty · 2021-11-08T19:00:26+00:00

That's just to fool the women they want to sleep with or be seen with in the public eye. He doesn't value ANY women at all if he's gauging when to show human decency by looks..

A nice dinner or present isn't even equivalent exchange for attention/sex/love/anything from a woman.

bleda_princezna · 2021-11-08T19:00:17+00:00

Not really. In my last relationship I was out of his league and he was well aware of that. I was not treated well in the slightest. He was abusive and neglected our relationship. But he sure was proud to snatch a woman that was way too good for him, I was a status symbol.

If he's a scrote, he's gonna scrote.

herbivorouscarnivore · 2021-11-08T17:26:32+00:00

Nah, a LVM’s “respect” isn’t even skin deep. On the off chance he does connect with a woman he perceives as out of his league, he’ll eventually mistreat her for “reminding” him of his inadequacies. (Facet of “reminding” consists of her existing. 🙄)

shockingupdate · 2021-11-08T19:50:08+00:00

LVM treat you better until they feel like they’ve locked you in. Eventually, once they’re certain you’re not going anywhere, they’ll realize the chase is over and return to the status quo

The thought process goes: ”She’s out of my league. She’s better than me. I’ll show her. I’ll make her spend time on me! Oh, now we’re dating. She likes me? Why? I’LL SHOW HER…ooh another girl. She’s out of my league—”

ABQ_COgirl · 2021-11-08T20:29:46+00:00

No because if an out of his league lady pays attention to him, it makes him think less of her because in his mind he knows that he is a piece of shit so would never get a woman out of his league. Men are crazy. There is no sanity to their thought process.

medusas_heiress · 2021-11-08T17:09:12+00:00

They don‘t value them as people either, they see them more like a trophy to be won if they try hard enough. It‘s an ego trip.

Inspection-Critical · 2021-11-08T19:55:18+00:00

Honestly, I don't think this is it at all.

The only things a LVM "respects" are power (real or perceived) and boundaries. He might give lip service to a woman he perceives as out of his league, only because she's out of his reach. If he had 5 minutes with her, you'd bet he'd start to degrade her and try to drag her down to his level.

Tbh, this question presumes that the woman is at fault for a man's mistreatment, that she "wasn't good enough" for him. But LVM treat all women like shit, regardless of what you see on social media.

A man's behavior reflects his true character or lack thereof. That doesn't change from woman to woman.

LVM don't "reserve queen treatment" for better women. That's a lie as old as time.

wavesandtea · 2021-11-08T21:02:15+00:00

I totally agree...and the worst part is, if a guy who isn't mentally mature sees you as out of his league the respect is temporary. He will soon gaslight and neg you into thinking you are worthless so he feels like a "bigger man"

NoMoreLVM · 2021-11-08T22:13:14+00:00

They don’t “value” any women, they’re just willing to bend over backwards to try and lure in a woman who they perceive will grant them “high status” amongst other men. They’ll discard, mistreat, abuse, and cheat on any women if they’re LV, no matter how beautiful she is. It’s not about the women, it’s about them.

kansascitydream · 2021-11-08T21:58:12+00:00

Ya . I was out of my ex husbands league and he treated me like a maid. I was out of the last man I was dating’s league, and he treated me like dirt and abused me. When you are out of their league the abuse is worse because they are insecure about your looks etc. Last scrote would become furious when other men would leer at me. Later in the day, he would pick apart my appearance or triangulate me with other women. What did I do to deserve that ? I was way better looking than the man I was with :) sorry, not sorry.

mangounicorns · 2021-11-08T17:13:45+00:00

LVM will disrespect women and treat them poorly regardless of whether they see these women as “in” or “out” of their league.

Their seeming “royal” treatment of women out of their league is not real. A woman is not being treated like a queen if a man only treats her a certain way because he deems her better than him, like a prize to be won.

He should be treating her that way because he respects and values her, regardless of what her social or financial status is or how it appears to him.

IgetUsernameScraps · 2021-11-09T02:23:50+00:00

As soon as they get that girl she’s trash because she decided to date trash (i.e. him).

boiledgatorade_ · 2021-11-08T17:15:46+00:00

Honestly no. Many times they actually resent it & want to tear women down who they see as “above” them.

WorkaholicParty · 2021-11-08T23:24:25+00:00

Maybe during the "admiration from afar phase" or when they are thinking about their ideal mate but concretely no. They're just more likely to resent her and if they can they will abuse her in any way that is possible.

lolmemberberries · 2021-11-08T23:31:46+00:00

No, there are men who will admit that you're too good for them and they'll treat you like shit because being with you reminds them of what they don't like about themselves.

Pryras · 2021-11-09T04:08:02+00:00

They don’t value them.

They want what they can’t have, when they get it they automatically switch to “She likes me so that means I can do even better” ….they also treat them like trash once they feel that they “conquered” her

GabbaG0ul · 2021-11-09T00:40:53+00:00

But then they will treat said queen like shit once she is with him. Because stooping to his level makes her less valuable.

hopeful_flounder93 · 2021-11-08T19:37:17+00:00

Lol they reserve negging for women out of their league 😂

xfelugirlx · 2021-11-08T19:12:45+00:00

Scrotes are scrotes no matter what but if you keep men in their place and see you as a savage or someone that won’t take shit of them they respect you and some admire you

__kamikaze__ · 2021-11-08T18:19:10+00:00

I think they do initially, but even the most beautiful and successful women have been cheated on and disrespected. Just look at what happened to Beyonce.

asocialsocialite · 2021-11-09T05:27:52+00:00

No. Men value the status that certain women can bring them.

reallyrunningnow · 2021-11-09T01:14:41+00:00

Nah. They treat women who won't put up with their shit like queens.

A woman who know she has options and is confident enough to dump him will get the queen treatment. Which happens in the "out of their league" scenarios that you mentioned.

Women who fawn after a scrote will be treated like crap despite being able to do much better. We all likely have had a pickme friend who's basically doing amazing careerwise/financewise/grooming wise/etc but insists on staying with a bum/cheater/loser who doesn't like to shower.

fireforestfairy · 2021-11-09T13:00:19+00:00

It's just that most men are not that desirable but they all want to date supermodels, so yeah, the women they treat as "goddesses" are all out of their league.

gigi_chi · 2021-11-08T17:16:51+00:00

Yes 100%.

Sekina7 · 2021-11-08T22:50:39+00:00

Absolutely spot on

frostedgemstone · 2021-11-09T19:26:51+00:00

They might appear to treat attractive women better INITIALLY for the chase but it does not say anything about how they will respect or value them long term. I think it’s a slippery slope because if women think only extremely ‘beautiful’ women get treated well in a context that actually matters, they’ll always think “oh I’m not pretty enough that’s why” which is totally untrue

huskyhockey451 · 2021-11-10T19:47:39+00:00

It's always so funny to me, as someone who doesn't present herself in a conventionally appealing to men way, when a man will blatantly avoid eye contact with me, avoid responding to me verbally, and generally pretend that I don't exist, but talk enthusiastically to my female friends if he considers them fuck able. Especially men in my community I've known for years and who will talk about the most mundane things with my make family members. They are so transparent and it's hilarious.

--qtbunny-- · 2021-11-09T01:31:33+00:00

Yes, "nice guys" think like this way.

the_ghost_of_ · 2021-11-09T02:01:05+00:00

I didn't even read the post, but I 100% agree. The only men that have ever valued me are men that knew they had zero fucking chance.

Cat_With_The_Fur · 2021-11-10T17:56:17+00:00

Yep. I’ve had men match with me online and then be weirdly mad and low key aggressive. I finally realized it’s because they thought they “deserved” someone “better”?? Then don’t match with me!

Title	Doesn’t it seem like men only value women who they think are out of their league?
Author	taylor232424
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Date	November 8, 2021 5:06 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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