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[–]RadarFemefFDS Newbie586 points587 points588 points 6 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
This is an idea I’ve seen more and more, the fact that men have vastly more respect and attention to their homosocial friendships than their wives or female partners. Men love and value other men more, and their opinions are the only ones that matter.
[–]Newwavesupport3657FDS Newbie182 points183 points184 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Homo erotic.
And I find they often don’t feel they measure up to other men and then they over compensate by dominating women. Women become punching bags. And men can bond over hating them together. Just sick.
I remember this abusive male who was crass to women but would get really jealous, like a teenage girl, (no hate to teen girls, I just mean petty/insecure behavior, like girls with internalized misogyny towards each other,) if he saw a buff dude shirtless. Worried his wife would look, and even harassed them over it. Jealous is his siblings with more “status”; bigger houses, more kids, making more $$$. He would constantly brag about having “sexual prowess” and was too out of tune to see how uncomfortable he made everyone. But no one questioned him. No one questions the male 🤦🏼♀️ even when it’s transparently weird.
[–]Hipster-AuroraFDS Newbie89 points90 points91 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's true. This is why even men of different races, classes, and on different sides of the political spectrum can 🤝, because hating women is something they can all agree with. These types will gladly set aside their differences to side with another man over a woman.
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Apprentice34 points35 points36 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's how they always win.
[–][deleted] 126 points127 points128 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Plenty of feminists have written the same. It is a well-explored theory in academia. I have seen the issue discussd even in theological books, such as the works of C. S. Lewis and Tim Keller.
[–]KevlarSweetheartFDS Newbie21 points22 points23 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ohhh, I'd be interested in reading the c.s lewis take. Do you have a title in mind?
[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I forgot in which book I read it, because he has such a large body of work. It might have been The Screwtape Letters.
[+]RadarFemefFDS Newbie-11 points-10 points-9 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I’m not sure it’s “well” explored but there are examples where the topic has come up in research and literature
It needs to be more prevalent because frankly it’s not part of common knowledge
[–][deleted] 42 points43 points44 points 6 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
It is well explored. I have plenty of books by plenty of authors who explore this topic. They are just authors and books that the public in general wouldn't read or know abour. I even have a book about Hollywood films published in the 70s by one of the world's most popular film critic who explores this idea in detail.
Edit: Whoever asked for the name of the Hollywood book, it is called "From Reverence to Rape" by Molly Haskell. It is a good book exploring how film in Hollywood (andto a lesser extent, Europe) has portrayed mostly a partial and/or enigrated representation of women for decades.
[+]RadarFemefFDS Newbie-32 points-31 points-30 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The idea that men care more about each other than they do women or their own families? No, I don’t think so. Homosocial relationships sure, but not the misogynistic aspect
[–][deleted] 33 points34 points35 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How are you going to argue that a thing doesn't exist when it clearly does, without even doing your research? Have you even read these books? Good Lord! That potent combination of ignorance, arrogance and self-delusion! You sound like one of those climate change deniers, or people who claim the Earth is flat. I'm blocking you now!
[–]MaisiebrFDS Apprentice7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She didn't deny it, she just says that it's not common knowledge.
[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She actually did deny it. I think that is why her answer was removed.
[–]Ka_Tetof99FDS Newbie432 points433 points434 points 6 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
“To say that straight men are heterosexual is only to say that they engage in sex (fucking exclusively with the other sex, i.e., women). All or almost all of that which pertains to love, most straight men reserve exclusively for other men. The people whom the admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom the imitate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they are willing to learn, and whose respect, admiration, recognition, honor, reverence and love they desire… those are, overwhelmingly, other men. In their relations with women, what passes for respect is kindness, generosity or paternalism; what passes for honor is removal to the pedestal. From women they want devotion, service and sex.
Heterosexual male culture is homoerotic; it is man-loving.”
-Marilyn Frye, The Politics of Reality
[–]sofiacarolinaFDS Newbie169 points170 points171 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
YES. Came here to post this. There’s also another quote ive read that goes something like ‘men make up elaborate games so they can touch each other.’ Male camaraderie is homoerotic as hell and also built on a foundation of misogyny.
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Apprentice20 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh yes.
[–]yggiwtmiihFDS Newbie17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Explains why so many men make sports like football a huge part of their lives.
[–]atropabeIIadonnaThrowaway Account76 points77 points78 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
God, yes! My work place has a generally good, inclusive/respectful atmosphere. But I’ve noticed some of the men there just don’t talk to any women if they don’t have to. It’s not because we don’t have things in common, because we do. I found out that I actually enjoy a lot of the same (not as popular) bands, movies, tv shows, hobbies, etc. that a few of the guys at work like because I initiated conversations when I was new, but they will never begin conversations with me or other women. Why talk to a woman when a perfectly good man is available?
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[–]StephenAubrey4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmfao!
[–]Newwavesupport3657FDS Newbie25 points26 points27 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
THIS.
[–]TheSatanicVeganFDS Newbie16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Says a lot especially when nearly man I've ever met always states how if they were to have children, they want a son, not a daughter.
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Apprentice15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I remember reading that!
[–]43rdaccountFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
so true, gotta remember this quote. is the rest of the book as good?
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Apprentice5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's infuriating.
[–]uselesssdataFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OMG YES.
This quote is amazing.
I wonder if this is simply boiled down to pure narcissism and being unable to identify with anything too unlike themselves?
[–]onthechainwaxxFDS Newbie358 points359 points360 points 6 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
I think about this all the time. Especially in regards to my own dating life - these men don't actually like women (or me), they just like pussy and being babied. My recent ex definitely liked the idea of me so much more than the reality.
[–]RadioactiveJoyFDS Disciple177 points178 points179 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If you’ve ever read any incel/mgtow stuff they basically say it outright.
[–]onthechainwaxxFDS Newbie149 points150 points151 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I try to avoid that stuff because I find it extremely triggering, but from what I've seen, yup. They absolutely loathe women.
[–]degnan1214FDS Newbie98 points99 points100 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I've seen some say that they regard their girlfriends (or women they're involved with) as "pets." Just an amusing creature who provides a service.
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Apprentice58 points59 points60 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Hamsters to be specific. Caged and little to no work effort. I mean, that's their misogynistic fantasy. They're fucking head cases.
[–]rapat1234FDS Newbie83 points84 points85 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Agreed x 1000.
I think a lot of men confuse sexual attraction and liking the labor (emotional comfort, house tending) with liking women. Nah dog, you just want to get your dick wet and have free meals provided. A lot of them shit on women for having typical female interests all while proclaiming how their video games are just superior.
[–]skyerippaFDS Newbie139 points140 points141 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
A couple months ago I literally just looked at my ex and said I don’t think you even like me. Why are you with me? What do you “love about me” and it’s not even just him, like this girl says it’s all men. The fuck do you even like about me besides my vagina and the fact I do everything for you????
[–]DaddysCyborgFDS Newbie62 points63 points64 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely. What gets me is that these men have craved me, needed to fuck me, not wanted me to leave. But that's nothing but testosterone. For many they've even praised me after the relationship for how I taught them many alternate views, improved their lives, stuff like that. But that ONLY gets acknowledged retrospectively. While it's happening, they hate it. I'm too sensitive, I "make" them feel violent, I "never drop it" (because I have trouble accepting lies they tell to placate me that are patronizing and rely on me shutting the fuck up and accepting the lie. They call this "liking to start fights"). In the end, many of them either never really liked me at all, or were dismissive as hell, flat out mean. I was patient and I took time to explain how truth could improve their lives, I taught them to love themselves and do better. Yet in the end all I gained was more trauma and self hatred. Until I found this place.
Although now that I've decided I have inherent worth and won't settle for bare minimum, my current beau is getting squirrelly and of course I'm being difficult.
[–]skyerippaFDS Newbie8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes 100% my experience too. I don’t even see what the point is anymore of trying
[–]honeyhealingFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Spot on observations!
[–]ifragbunniezFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
💯
[–]Newwavesupport3657FDS Newbie70 points71 points72 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How sad.
Being heterosexual sucks. They’re so... not evolved at all.
[–]Nimmly67FDS Newbie82 points83 points84 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
LIKE ISNT IT A BITCH HOW BOOKS, MOVIES, AND MAINSTREAM IDEOLOGY ALWAYS PORTRAY MEN AS GIFTS FROM GOD. BUT in reality theyre either children who need their hand held at best or controlling asshats at worst.
Obviously not all men, but fuck man, truth right here
[–]husheveryoneFDS Apprentice304 points305 points306 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
She had me at “ya’ll wish ya’ll homies had coochies.” 🥇🤣 Yup. Truer than true!
[–]cremeblushersFDS Newbie[S] 160 points161 points162 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yesss omg they’re more loyal to their friends than they are their girlfriends, they may as well just date eachother!
[–]ApartPersonalityFDS Newbie47 points48 points49 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Marissa nailed it
[–]telicia022 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Makes so much sense and explains a lot!
[–]dzgataFDS Disciple291 points292 points293 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
When men describe the type of woman they want they describe a slave.
[–]outside-perceptionFDS Newbie232 points233 points234 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
The intuitiveness part. Omg. This is why most of us gaslight ourselves after a few bad relationships. And this is why I no longer question my intuition. Women know.
[–]Newwavesupport3657FDS Newbie72 points73 points74 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Same.
You know what I like to do now is psychoanalyze them . They don’t like that. They’re not as clever as they think. And it scares them.
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Apprentice27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
😆😆🤭
[–]MyplummmsRuthless Strategist4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. I've started to intuitively psychoanalyze other people's relationships, just from what I hear them complain about. When I meet their spouse in person, I can almost guess what the person will say or do. It's that good old armchair psychology.
[–]cremeblushersFDS Newbie[S] 153 points154 points155 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Every. Single. Time. I thought something wasn’t right but pushed it to the side in case I was overreacting, I turned out to be right. Our guts never lie yet for some reason we still hold out on this little bit of hope. Never again!
[–]skyerippaFDS Newbie54 points55 points56 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We 👏🏻 are 👏🏻 always 👏🏻 right 👏🏻
[–]nutshitFDS STRATEGY COACH10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seriously insane. Doubting my intuition once was enough for me 🏃♀️
[–]ReignRain95FDS Newbie122 points123 points124 points 6 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Ive thought about this before. Sometimes I overhear stuff or read stuff and even question if men are attracted to women sexually naturally, they want a perfect plastic doll or something.
[–]ifragbunniezFDS Newbie49 points50 points51 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Trust me, being attracted to men is definitely innate, only speaking because I’d prefer a relationship with a woman. More emotionally in touch, mutual respect and true equality more likely to happen and less double standards. 🤷♀️
[–]TheSatanicVeganFDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I met a guy who tends to be quite feminine in his overall demeanor. Like, sometimes I think he is bi or gay. It bothered me a lot at first but now I think I'd prefer a man who is a bit softer and doesn't make me feel like I'll get chewed out for not being "the cool girl." Spending time with him was a huge eye opener.
Edit: and the fact that meeting a guy who wasn't overtly masculine is proof how much toxic masculinity as affected how I view men. "Oh, he doesn't act like XYZ, so he must be part of the LGBT."
[–]gimmeyourbadinageFDS Newbie44 points45 points46 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
That’s exactly what they want. The further science gets, the more advanced, the closer we are to functioning sex robots. The men can’t wait. Yet, even in a world where they make women “obsolete” they designed some thing that looks exactly like (they want) us to look. They can’t live without us.
I’ve never heard of a woman buying a dildo with a whole ass fake man attached.
[–]ReignRain95FDS Newbie16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly
[–]painmakesyoustrongerFDS Apprentice7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I still think real women will always be their primary target. Free of charge, they present the thrill of the chase, cook, clean, pay half the rent, raise children, provide them with the “husband” title that allows them to get raises and promotions.. Only women, not robots, can be dominated and humiliated, manipulated and deceived. Only women can be screen shotted and laughed about on reddit. Only women can be passed around incoherent at a party for pure evil pleasure. The pleasure is derived from the depravity. The unthinkable crossing of boundaries. Only a woman with the right to choose could serve as a trophy for the men to compete over, not for her inherent value but as a status symbol. Can’t compete over or have all of that aforementioned “fun” with a robot. A robot that most of these jokers probably couldn’t even afford once it is invented.
[–]gimmeyourbadinageFDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean, of course we will still be superior to literal robots. But have you ever been to some of the darker corners around here? There’s men who truly believe they have zero chance because of their looks or dick size who have turned their rejection into hate and now believe all women deserve to be raped just for the audacity of not giving it up. They have given up entirely on getting what they want and feel they are entitled to the right way. They drool over a society where women wear chains and cater to their every whim.
[–]TheSatanicVeganFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
There is a Manga out of a girl who orders a "Dream Boyfriend" robot. It's called Absolute Boyfriend. A real life series was made for it. Haha
[–]MyplummmsRuthless Strategist0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Did she use it just for sex, or like go on dates with it? It's a crazy concept, haha.
[–]TheSatanicVeganFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She went on dates. You have to kiss the robot to "turn it on" and be registered as it's main user. I believe if it kisses someone else, it is then "taken over by the new user." I can't remember if she has sex with him or not.
I find it interesting as in the female protagonist series, to turn the robot on, you merely have to kiss it. In another series... Chobits you have to turn the robot on by a spot near the leg. (I wouldn't be surpised if the G-spot was the inital idea). So it's much harder to take control of someone else's bot with that method.
Never finished Chobits, but Absolute Boyfriend was a really cute series.
[–]uselesssdataFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly, bring the sex robots on. I don't care. Take these men out of the gene pool. Maybe women a couple generations down the line will have better to choose from when these losers finally remove themselves from selection.
[–]TheSatanicVeganFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean.... "perfect plastic" dolls are being developed.
[–]lluuniFDS Newbie110 points111 points112 points 6 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Not sure what she means by sensitivity and emotions making us women. Both over-sensitive and emotional men are a major problem for women as a whole. I’ve honestly encountered far more men with these problems than women.
[–]GoatRenownFDS Newbie43 points44 points45 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Women being too sensitive, over emotional, controlled by their hormones etc is just another trait highly emotional men project onto women. It's easy for them to believe that women are controlled by their hormones or "hysterical" because as another commenter mentioned, anger does not count as an emotion when a man experiences it.
To men, anger is only emotional when it comes from a woman. Men's anger is "cold and rational" while women's anger is out of control and irrational.
Okay Kyle, let me know when your tantrum is over and you have stopped slamming everything you touch around.
[–]ifragbunniezFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
😒😑 yes
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[–]avakadavaFDS Newbie48 points49 points50 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yep and it's only socially acceptable to be angry when you're a man
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Apprentice25 points26 points27 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. My parents shamed me for showing anger.
[–]burpleseaurchinFDS Newbie50 points51 points52 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That shame causes many women to uncontrollably cry when trying to express pure rage, and it's super upsetting. Because our anger was invalidated growing up, we're conditioned into a messed up expression of anger that helps keep us down (males always seem to take the anger less seriously when there is crying involved).
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Apprentice13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
❤
[–]pickmieshaexorcistFDS Apprentice55 points56 points57 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, and intuition isn’t some magical vagina woman thing either. Its not innate to the female sex. It’s simply because we are the oppressed class. We are weaker and have heard about and experienced men wielding their violence over us since birth. If not to us, then our friends, sisters, mothers. So we have had subconscious lessons in this survival intuition all our lives, even as society tries to talk it out of us.
[–]gimmeyourbadinageFDS Newbie13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sensitivity and emotion isn’t the problem, the word you’re looking for for these men you’re describing is “childish“.
Think about the weak ass excuse men have used against women being president forever as an example. That they are too emotional, wouldn’t be able to handle the idea of “fighting“ for our country and cry too much. Trump isn’t up there crying but I’ve never seen a more childish baby.
[–]MyplummmsRuthless Strategist7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If women hit walls in righteous anger, there'd be no buildings anymore.
[–]CanijustbekimFDS Newbie48 points49 points50 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This is why I say sexuality can't be a choice. Who would willingly choose to be attracted to men?
[–]cremeblushersFDS Newbie[S] 13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thissss I would switch in a heartbeat if I could
The truth is society shames women for being attracted to women (outside of the male gaze), because they can't fathom a world in which women don't exist to serve/please men. Most hate crimes perpetuated against lesbians are by men, worldwide.
[–]RedRetrogradeFDS Newbie327 points328 points329 points 6 years ago* (68 children) | Copy Link
Heterosexuality Is A Misleading Term For “No Homo” Men. Men Do Not Feel Attracted To Women, They Do Not Like Women, And They Do Not Love Women. 1.) Men are not attracted to women. Men constantly talk about how disgusting vaginas look, smell, taste, and how much they hate the idea of going down on women. If they have the choice, they prefer female genitals that are mutilated: either via “old-fashioned” techniques like in some African and Islamic communities or via “modern” cosmetic surgeries that some women in porn have performed on them. The goal of this is always a kind of sexless, “genitalless”, pedophilic look of a pink little slit. Men also hate any amount of natural body hair on women although (or because!) it is a sign of sexual maturity. Men hate normal amounts of body fat on women although (or because) it is a sign of sexual maturity and fertility as well. Men want babies with big tits. And what do they want to sexually do to these babies with big tits? Fuck them in the ass, fuck them in the throat, beat, rape, torture, and humiliate them until they cry. Male sexuality is nothing but fetishized violence against women. They love anal sex because it is hurtful to women and doesn’t give women a chance to orgasm themselves. And the moment they realized that some women actually enjoy giving blowjobs have they come up with “throat fucking” and “deep throat”: they HATE women, they HATE female bodies, and they HATE the idea that a woman could enjoy sex. It is often said that “Porn tells lies about women, but it tells the truth about men”. And the truth is that if you take the brutal anal/throat penetration out of male sexuality, what’s left is men casually beating, hurting, whipping women. The distinction between “vanilla” and “kink” doesn’t make sense in the case of men. It’s just a matter of degree. “Vanilla” men want to rape women and beat them - “kinky” men want to rape women and beat them and electroshock and water torture and mutilate them. Men are not attracted to actual female bodies. Men only enjoy the idea of DESTROYING female bodies: both through absurd beauty norms that effectively destroy these bodies and turn them into absurd dolls and through sexual practices that are always about hurting, beating, whipping, raping, anal fucking, throat fucking female bodies. 2.) Men do not like women. Men do not feel attracted to real women. And men do obviously not LIKE women. They hate women so much that the moment women like something, men hate it: if women like flavored-coffee drinks from Starbucks, men hate it BECAUSE women like it. (As if bacon and bacon memes are funnier or better than women making memes about pizza or enjoying pumpkin-spice lattes!) If women join a fandom, men leave because the moment women like it, they start hating it. Some sociologist has coined the term “gender pollution”: it is a sexist term itself but it describes a real phenomenon: the more women enter a particular space (e.g. a profession or a hobby), the more it is “polluted”, the less it is valued and the less people in this job get paid. I think in some Eastern European countries this is actually the case with doctors even: but as there are many women in this field - both among nurses as well as among doctors - doctors are also not valued anymore. The moment women became good in school was the moment boys increasingly dropped out. Men now associate doing your homework and reading books with women - and they rather ruin their lives than to be engaged with something women like! So instead of doing their homework are they now playing video games 24/7. But now women have obviously started playing video games as well. So now they become mass shooters because they hate the idea of female video game characters. 3.) Men do not love women. Winston Churchill famously said that you have the Germans either at your feet or at your throat. Now, I’m not sure about the Germans, but I think that this is definitely true for males: they are always either at your throat or at your feet. Males fall in “love” with e-girls...but the moment they find out that those women already have boyfriends they want to kill them. (I’m not even sure if I have to put “love” in quotation marks here because the idea of a REAL love in contrast to quotation-marks-love feels a bit like the idea that only “men” in quotation marks are toxic and shitty while REAL men are all these heroes and these supermen…) ...Consider how many males murder others and/or end their own lives because of love. Just like being pornsick makes it hard for males - and for women - to develop a realistic understanding of human sexuality with its possibilities and limitations, being “lovesick” makes it hard for males - and for women - to develop a realistic understanding of human relationships. People these days expect love to do what previous generations expected miracles and gods to do. “All you need is love” vs “All you need is Jesus”. There are also studies that show that males fall in love easier and earlier than women. And they surely fall out of love easier as well. Males are like the flickering flame of a candle that burns brightly for a second and then goes out again. This is why it’s so super common for women to think that they do not know their husbands anymore because they feel that these males are completely different persons suddenly. Males can be lovesick and pornsick at the same time. They masturbate to torture porn in one moment, and the next moment they write a 20-page love letter to some e-girl and emotionally vomit all over them, confessing their undying love. (Many women receive as many rape threats as they receive cringe love letters in which males emotionally vomit all over them.) And one moment later do they already want to kill those terrible “e-thots” again: males are always either at your throat or at your feet: the romantic concept of “love” is a literary construct at best and a religious tool at worst but it’s simply not true that men are able to “love” women in the sense women dream about being loved. Men are not attracted to actual women. Men do not like actual women. Men do not love actual women.
Heterosexuality Is A Misleading Term For “No Homo” Men. Men Do Not Feel Attracted To Women, They Do Not Like Women, And They Do Not Love Women.
1.) Men are not attracted to women.
Men constantly talk about how disgusting vaginas look, smell, taste, and how much they hate the idea of going down on women. If they have the choice, they prefer female genitals that are mutilated: either via “old-fashioned” techniques like in some African and Islamic communities or via “modern” cosmetic surgeries that some women in porn have performed on them. The goal of this is always a kind of sexless, “genitalless”, pedophilic look of a pink little slit.
Men also hate any amount of natural body hair on women although (or because!) it is a sign of sexual maturity. Men hate normal amounts of body fat on women although (or because) it is a sign of sexual maturity and fertility as well.
Men want babies with big tits.
And what do they want to sexually do to these babies with big tits? Fuck them in the ass, fuck them in the throat, beat, rape, torture, and humiliate them until they cry.
Male sexuality is nothing but fetishized violence against women. They love anal sex because it is hurtful to women and doesn’t give women a chance to orgasm themselves. And the moment they realized that some women actually enjoy giving blowjobs have they come up with “throat fucking” and “deep throat”: they HATE women, they HATE female bodies, and they HATE the idea that a woman could enjoy sex.
It is often said that “Porn tells lies about women, but it tells the truth about men”. And the truth is that if you take the brutal anal/throat penetration out of male sexuality, what’s left is men casually beating, hurting, whipping women. The distinction between “vanilla” and “kink” doesn’t make sense in the case of men. It’s just a matter of degree. “Vanilla” men want to rape women and beat them - “kinky” men want to rape women and beat them and electroshock and water torture and mutilate them.
Men are not attracted to actual female bodies. Men only enjoy the idea of DESTROYING female bodies: both through absurd beauty norms that effectively destroy these bodies and turn them into absurd dolls and through sexual practices that are always about hurting, beating, whipping, raping, anal fucking, throat fucking female bodies.
2.) Men do not like women.
Men do not feel attracted to real women. And men do obviously not LIKE women. They hate women so much that the moment women like something, men hate it: if women like flavored-coffee drinks from Starbucks, men hate it BECAUSE women like it. (As if bacon and bacon memes are funnier or better than women making memes about pizza or enjoying pumpkin-spice lattes!) If women join a fandom, men leave because the moment women like it, they start hating it.
Some sociologist has coined the term “gender pollution”: it is a sexist term itself but it describes a real phenomenon: the more women enter a particular space (e.g. a profession or a hobby), the more it is “polluted”, the less it is valued and the less people in this job get paid. I think in some Eastern European countries this is actually the case with doctors even: but as there are many women in this field - both among nurses as well as among doctors - doctors are also not valued anymore.
The moment women became good in school was the moment boys increasingly dropped out. Men now associate doing your homework and reading books with women - and they rather ruin their lives than to be engaged with something women like! So instead of doing their homework are they now playing video games 24/7. But now women have obviously started playing video games as well. So now they become mass shooters because they hate the idea of female video game characters.
3.) Men do not love women.
Winston Churchill famously said that you have the Germans either at your feet or at your throat.
Now, I’m not sure about the Germans, but I think that this is definitely true for males: they are always either at your throat or at your feet. Males fall in “love” with e-girls...but the moment they find out that those women already have boyfriends they want to kill them. (I’m not even sure if I have to put “love” in quotation marks here because the idea of a REAL love in contrast to quotation-marks-love feels a bit like the idea that only “men” in quotation marks are toxic and shitty while REAL men are all these heroes and these supermen…)
...Consider how many males murder others and/or end their own lives because of love. Just like being pornsick makes it hard for males - and for women - to develop a realistic understanding of human sexuality with its possibilities and limitations, being “lovesick” makes it hard for males - and for women - to develop a realistic understanding of human relationships. People these days expect love to do what previous generations expected miracles and gods to do. “All you need is love” vs “All you need is Jesus”.
There are also studies that show that males fall in love easier and earlier than women. And they surely fall out of love easier as well. Males are like the flickering flame of a candle that burns brightly for a second and then goes out again. This is why it’s so super common for women to think that they do not know their husbands anymore because they feel that these males are completely different persons suddenly.
Males can be lovesick and pornsick at the same time. They masturbate to torture porn in one moment, and the next moment they write a 20-page love letter to some e-girl and emotionally vomit all over them, confessing their undying love. (Many women receive as many rape threats as they receive cringe love letters in which males emotionally vomit all over them.) And one moment later do they already want to kill those terrible “e-thots” again: males are always either at your throat or at your feet: the romantic concept of “love” is a literary construct at best and a religious tool at worst but it’s simply not true that men are able to “love” women in the sense women dream about being loved.
Men are not attracted to actual women.
Men do not like actual women.
Men do not love actual women.
—u/ConsidertheHorses
[–]CharTheCatMomFDS Newbie155 points156 points157 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well...what can you even say after reading that?
I'm going to go with my gut and just enjoy my female friends, family, and cats, and money, and freedom and youth, and....
There's so much to gain for a woman when Men aren't in the equation. Honestly, this isn't even something I want to feel. Men in general are just...incapable.
I can only love men for what I wish they were. That's sad. But it's okay. Being single isn't the end of the world and I refuse to allow it to negatively impact my life. There's so much more to life than a Man. They're not worth the pain.
[–]avakadavaFDS Newbie121 points122 points123 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Oh fuck, that just took any desire for male attention / a relationship out of me
[–]RedRetrogradeFDS Newbie87 points88 points89 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s great. Now that you have this knowledge, you can move through the world safer. Unmarried women live longer than married women, after all.
[–]sofiacarolinaFDS Newbie74 points75 points76 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the whole truth and nothing but the truth
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[–][deleted] 28 points29 points30 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The women are beautiful, mature, and smart. Their men are like little monkeys on their shoulders, throwing crap at them and mocking them
Quoted for emphasis on the genius accuracy of this statement.
[–]IAmGoingToBeBetterFDS Newbie87 points88 points89 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Damn this is horrifying when put into perspective.
[–]Newwavesupport3657FDS Newbie84 points85 points86 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
The “men hate normal body fat” gets me a lot. My father called my mother “fat” and she was a size 7 in jeans! She had wide hips but wasn’t fat at all or chunky she was just curvy.
I am like a 3-5 and he called me chunky.
And I’ve seen this in a lot of relationships.
I think dating a man would make me relapse into anorexia. So that’s part of why I am frustrated and in this page. Validation and understanding.
And the revulsion to hair... snd wanting a pink slit... they want children. This is scary.
[–]RedRetrogradeFDS Newbie65 points66 points67 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Yup. This is men. When you peel back the layers of bullshit we’ve been fed as children and really take a long, hard look at these beings, it becomes clear that they simply do not process the world the way we do.
Men and women might as well be two completely different species psychologically. Men evolved to rape and kill (and what demographic of humans are the easiest to rape and kill? That’s right, little girls, hence why their sexual tastes are borderline pedophilic, if not outrightly pedophilic!) whereas women evolved to create life and maintain it.
It really isn’t surprising that women have such a hard time wrapping their heads around the male psyche, because it’s a totally alien experience. The same goes for males with the female psyche as well. For them, understanding our point of view is like trying to comprehend a sound you’ve never heard before. On top of that, their egos prevent them from admitting that they are psychologically shallow, hence why they’ll stupidly argue until the cows come home that something as basic and obvious as the patriarchy doesn’t exist.
[–]PottyMouthxFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed. After reading about narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths; I realize an average Joe fits the criteria perfectly.
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Apprentice27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
What the fuck? Is it because men want us to be frail and weak or prepubescent? Or both?
[–]RedRetrogradeFDS Newbie16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Both. Frailty and weakness are hallmarks of prepubescence. Also, when we are frail and weak, we are easier for them to control and manipulate. It all goes hand in hand.
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Apprentice12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think about this when I see actresses getting thinner and thinner. Like, what the hell are their agents telling them? Sorry honey, if you don't look like a toothpick that can be broken in half men will loose their boners while they're watching you. Ewww, gross.
[–]likearealreptileFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i’m guessing this is related to porn. hair-free is what they see in porn and so it’s what they expect.
[–]ReignRain95FDS Newbie93 points94 points95 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I hate it here.
[–]RedRetrogradeFDS Newbie98 points99 points100 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Understandable. The truth is crippling and unyielding. It will make you rethink everything you were led to believe your whole life.
Don’t worry, the sting wears off eventually.
[–]NeptunianBabeFDS Newbie58 points59 points60 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And when it does, it's the most liberating thing ever, cause then we see that our lives are our own and we can live them however we want to and that men and a relationship are not everything there is to life. I really thank this sub for helping many of us.
[–]gimmeyourbadinageFDS Newbie12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s not funny, but that was a funny comment. Lol.
[–]CloacaDiddlerFDS Newbie63 points64 points65 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Not only is all of this completely and painfully true, but men further show their hatred of womanhood by demonizing mere terms related to it. The worst insult to a boy is “you’re a pussy” or “you throw like a girl” whereas “he’s the man” or “he has balls” are somehow better despite both being more fragile, especially compared to pussies that deal with childbirth (pretty much the worst pain known to our kind) and women who have to excel at something and then some just to overcome the fucking male bullshit surrounding everything.
Men are more likely to cheat when their partner becomes pregnant, more likely to leave when their partner is sick or injured, plus they commit literally every single crime in far and away majority. Add to that, most seemed to have not evolved past caveman times and expect women to now work and pay for half+ of everything...AND do all the housework/childcare/planning/financial handling/cleaning/cooking because they seem biologically incapable of putting clothes in the laundry basket, a burger on the stove, or a dish in the sink. They don’t improve anything about life, at best, and actively detract at worst and honestly most common.
I maintain that anything men do, a woman can do twice as well (and more, because again they have to do it under the resistive yoke of patriarchy) EXCEPT and I will concede this, physical strength and gaining muscle. I don’t think it’s a radical idea to look at the massive amount of bullshit in the world and think a reasonable response would be medically lowering men’s testosterone levels until the rest of civilization is in reasonable safety from their destruction.
(I don’t want to get this sub banned so I’m gonna go ahead and say NAMALT...)
[–]ImPiqued1111111FDS Newbie26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The worst insult to a boy is “you’re a pussy” or “you throw like a girl” whereas “he’s the man” or “he has balls” are somehow better despite both being more fragile, especially compared to pussies that deal with childbirth
Yeah, it's pretty weird that the slang for vagina is an insult for being weak when it can birth babies and snap back, while the slang for testicles is a compliment for being strong when one little flick at them sends a man crashing to the ground in agony.
[–]HaveNoIdeaWhatToPickFDS Newbie18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don’t think it’s a radical idea to look at the massive amount of bullshit in the world and think a reasonable response would be medically lowering men’s testosterone levels until the rest of civilization is in reasonable safety from their destruction.
This! I've been saying it for long but people always think it's radical or a "man-hate" lol
[–]xNayxNayxFDS Newbie30 points31 points32 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You have just described my last relationship. There was no sexual violence but it was like he was in a different place when we had sex. We didn’t connect and it was always weird. I pushed it aside is him being shy and inexperienced. He then started to use my sexual experience against me because of his inexperience. Outside of sex he hated me. He was either at my feet or at my throat in cycles. Never in the middle. Though he absolutely adored his friends. Gosh this hurts. So much.
[–]slightlyolderthanyouFDS Newbie8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ouff, I'm feeling this pretty hard with the guy responsible for bringing me here. So glad I found this sub, even though it's killing all my romantic fantasies.
[–]yggiwtmiihFDS Newbie19 points20 points21 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A human being deserves to be treated better than this. I'm not only happy to be alone, I am celebrating if it means I won't have to go through being thought of like that in a relationship. Bring on the cats and volunteer work!
[–]rosapalmeraFDS Newbie15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Holy shit.
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Apprentice11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow.
[–]degnan1214FDS Newbie44 points45 points46 points 6 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
I would say that the scrotes fit this description. The Red Pill, Manosphere guys have a deep resentment towards women. We are a vagina life support system to them and they don't like us at all.
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[–]degnan1214FDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
If that were so, there would be no HVM out there. Yet many of us believe there are.
[–]RedRetrogradeFDS Newbie54 points55 points56 points 6 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, that’s the darker truth. HVM are about as mythical as unicorns. The chances of you ever encountering a truly pure, untainted male is less than infinitesimal. You’d have better luck digging for a lost civilization in your backyard, quite frankly.
Even if you were to shelter him to the best of your abilities, it’s simply impossible to raise a boy in a misogynistic society without having some of that misogyny rub off on him. He might not outwardly hate you, but the hate—the belief that you are ultimately his inferior—still lingers within.
[–]HaveNoIdeaWhatToPickFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
I've been always afraid of raising a son because of it. I've been thinking about what If I ever wanted a baby and what If this baby turned out to be a son. Would I manage to raise him outside of this misogynistic influence from society? I highly doubt it. It honestly scares me.
[–]ImPiqued1111111FDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
The alternative is raising a daughter who will be forced to suffer under patriarchy.
[–]RedRetrogradeFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
No, the real alternative is not having any kids at all. Don’t birth new oppressors and don’t birth new victims. The only way to stop the patriarchy is to cut off its supply of new humans to mold and exploit.
[–]ImPiqued1111111FDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Yes, I agree completely and that's what I was implying. I don't believe having children is a moral choice.
[–]RedRetrogradeFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Oh, well in that case, agreed. I’m curious, have you ever been to the sub r/antinatalism? I think you would fit well there. It’s for people who are against reproducing because of how immoral of an act it ultimately is.
[–]TiffglamourFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The most powerfully true words I have read in a long time. Sobering.....
[–]MyplummmsRuthless Strategist11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is such a great analysis, I can't believe you don't have a thousand comments.
[–]BovvsetteFDS Disciple8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I really disliked reading that as a bitter truth pill, but I can't disagree. There are few untainted HV gold nuggets dropped here and there, as I've seen a couple fulfilling marriages with mutual effort and respect, but at large (98% of the time) a woman's experience with a man is not pleasant. She's taught to give, heal, sacrifice, love, please others and create life. And that's never enough. He's conditioned to take for granted, destroy, be entitled and cruel. He's physically stronger so throughout the history we adapted his shitty animalistic and violent ways of doing things and now society has gone downhill to the extreme. It's past the point of cOmMuNiCaTinG with them, they don't want to hear us. We should just separate from them and create our own supportive society and networks. We'll be fine without them sucking our life energy and they can angrily squeeze their penises all day, no one cares.
[–]BovvsetteFDS Disciple2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Awesome. Do you have any theory why men don't depend on each other for these sexual practices? Why do they even get involved with women?
[–]RedRetrogradeFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
My theory is that men are actually attracted to femininity. More often than not, women perform femininity. And because women perform femininity, women are the more convenient option.
A radical feminist Youtuber by the name of Sekhmet She-Owl did an extensive video on this topic. I highly recommend you watch it, because she articulates these points far better than I ever could. Here’s the link if you’re interested: https://youtu.be/l3ugzx4I7e4
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
I will watch it. ty
My theory is that LVM are actually into other men, because their attraction to women is strictly sexual, but that's all they care about so they pass themselves as 'heterosexuals'.* Thus they objectify women, because that's the only part of woman they care about - their body. They're too sex-obsessed and self-centered to see and appreciate woman's personality or any non-sexual aspect.
*I mean they are heterosexual, but they're homoromantic.
[–]uselesssdataFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree with this theory and it matches with my experience with men - but what mystifies me is what do men actually get out of their bromances that they don't find with women? They seem so shallow and inadequate when trying to interact with women on an emotional level, but I'm trying to understand what they find so fulfilling in their bromances? Is it simply the lack of any depth that they actually like? Do men just tap into some weird narcissistic synergy with each other? What do they talk about? I really wonder.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They pursue women strictly for sexuality (they want to) and reproduction (they're 'supposed' to). In romance, similarities attract and work (not complementary).
[–]NeptunianBabeFDS Newbie79 points80 points81 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
If this isn't true. This is exactly what I was telling a friend yesterday,that it's always the pickmes that are trending on twitter and not cause they're pro women but cause they're pandering to men and throwing women under the bus. Just recently a lady was trending and she was telling women that they were given vaginas for free therefore they should share them FOR FREE, like they shouldn't expect a man to spend on them and spoil them and pay for stuff cause "hE's Not hEr FaTher" (amongst other things like encouraging women to lower their standards). I got so disgusted and angry I almost cried smh, I hope she finds out that being a pickmeisha is a scam and 90% of what men say they want, they only say it cause it benefits them.
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Apprentice34 points35 points36 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
That was a man. I mean, there are women who hate themselves that much, but that sounds like pure, straight up misogyny. Like the ancient type...women give birth, men feel inferior, so they invent sexism, marriage, property, money.
But maybe she just hates herself.
[–]Newwavesupport3657FDS Newbie57 points58 points59 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is why I find most men utterly unattractive.
They remind me of my father and this is absolutely how he views women. He gets off on humiliating and degrading them (Mormon who porn-fies women. His father was also Mormon, and got off on abusing his wife and kids and showing them porn. Joyous childhood.)
I’ve had one short relationship and due to circumstances have remained single due to trauma and even if I heal, most are LVM.
My first relationship actually made me feel humanized; they would see me being mistreated and stuffing my feelings down and would immediately ask either the next day or moment after if I was ok. I’m not use to being treated well so my jaw dropped the first time especially because I hide my emotions really well. They were “energy sensitive” like me. I appreciated that. I didn’t even have to communicate my feelings to feel seen and heard. They did not watch porn and I noticed even with my autonomy I never had to explain my boundaries, not once, they were empathetic and intuitive about it and would do things to “butter me up” which made me want to initiate. It worked that way. I appreciated my boundaries respected. And this is such a basic thing to ask for it’s a shame that’s deemed worthy of “praise” when its basic human decency. I have to even keep this in mind; never idealize anyone. The bar is set so low...
They complimented me on being sincere, a good person, hardworking and driven. I never saw or felt those were attributes I had, somehow I believe they believed what they were saying though.
Validating my emotions (without being asked,) being spontaneous and valuing me for my internal attributes made me feel very humanized and taught me I deserve to be treated well.
And I won’t settle for less. I’m a human being and being dehumanized is a very common and undervalued trauma in women. I deserve to be treated well.
I remember my father would do “homo-erotic ” bonding with other males, objectifying me or threatening to objectify me if I had positive attention from males or was interested. He would say “all guys are like that.”
I won’t tolerate that at all. If I ever date key things I want to for are how they are with body language and subtly emotions.
Honestly, I’m repulsed by most men because most watch porn and lack empathy.
I don’t know how women settle for men who only view women sexually.
My mother was one of the most unhappy women I know and he sexualized her even in death.
Never ever tolerate someone who views you sexually primarily... I feel like sexual attraction should follow emotional attraction personal...(apparently thats suppose to be a type of sexuality... isn’t that normal lmao wtf. Demi sexual or some shit. Porn isn’t normal sexuality. )
[–]FuckinGandalfManWoahFDS Newbie26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lots of men are attracted to femininity, not women.
[–]VillanellohFDS Newbie26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Men love men. This is why the beard trend took off - have you noticed how they all sit around admiring each other's beards, stroking their chins, giving praise to men with beards they find especially attractive?
[–]Jarl_of_Ireland6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Same as the gym bro culture. Oiled up musclebound men admiring other oiled up musclemen....but it's totally not gay bro!
[–]VillanellohFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I never understood that. Women don't look at athletic women and make comments like 'Look how tight those abs are...She's got great biceps' etc
[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Men say they hide their emotions to be more attractive...well they sure aren't hiding their emotions from women. They'll cry, scream, and show every emotion under the sun around us. When they're around men they pretend to be their "stoic" (snort) selves to appear more manly. So tell me again, who are they trying to be attractive for?
[–]perkytitssolidshitsFDS Newbie8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Soooo true. They wonder why we get turned off when they do show a flood of emotion the first time. Like learn to handle it in a healthy style of it instead of looking like a newborn who shit his pants.
[–]adertinaFDS Newbie85 points86 points87 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
men sexualize wlw bc they cant comprehend how beautiful women are and the women who see it
[–]feminist-hermioneAt-Risk Pick Me Youth107 points108 points109 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
As a bisexual woman, there are so many times I can't relate to the way straight men talk about the women they're (supposedly) attracted to. Recently, a straight man started talking about girls with me, and one of the first things he asked was "tits or ass." I was like buddy, I don't think we view women the same way.
[–][deleted] 47 points48 points49 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know I’ve been seen as body part never a whole person.
The tits or ass question is just like asking if you prefer vanilla or chocolate. It’s apparent women are a sexual flavor.
What an asshole.
[–]RedeRules770FDS Newbie13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The last time a dude asked me that I launched into the longest speech about how the thing I like most about other women is how softly we kiss. Men kiss you like they're trying to stake claim on your face and pull your lips off or dominate them. Women kiss like it's supposed to be pleasurable for both people.
I don't think he got it.
[–]Jarl_of_Ireland4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im lesbian and I have never got the whole "tits or ass" thing. I fall for the woman and all her parts, I don't fall in love with a body part itself. And actually give me an honest smile, a bit of sarcastic wit and a love for country music and Irish culture , and I am happy.
[–]muludnepgnicnadFDS Newbie15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
1000%
[–]anonymousgirl99FDS Newbie45 points46 points47 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pink pill ideology has (finally) entered the chat
[–]MyplummmsRuthless Strategist12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s insane how much homoeroticism is encouraged with women if it’s for the male gaze, but discouraged in men as being unmasculine. And yet, most women live in a culture where men prioritize other men’s thoughts,feelings, and beliefs above their own. How do men bond over misogyny influenced by tradition, and yet also complain about what traditional gender roles expect of them? Make it make sense 😪
[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Some of scrotes are so hopeless, we as a gender are so annoying when we refuse to be control by these scrotes. The minute they barely get females they freak out. Thank to fucking god this year and last year I refuse to ever put a man on a pedestal.
99% most of the time doing this just makes the male ego worst. I always wondering how to these men we are so annoying? my abusive ex was the same way he claims he loves me but he made it clear a lot of things he couldn't stand about me. The minute I was enjoying my life and he couldn't find pussy he crawls back and "realizes" he can tolerate me now. Like fuck off and second move on with your life. These men are so psychos about females but apparently you can't call it what it is.
[–]HaveNoIdeaWhatToPickFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My mother's friend has an ex that was fully ignoring her when she still cried over their break-up, but the moment she got over it and started to enjoy her life he wanted to go back. It's so pathetic.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly I find it so childish, you only like me when I'm over you bitch byee
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Apprentice8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mmmm, yeah.
[–]SasofaFDS Newbie16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
You can look up Matriarchal societies both historical and current. One thing they all have in common is that all women are treated relatively equally and there is rarely marriage to men and if they do get married, it doesn't resemble what we think of as marriage. Women if they get married will not sleep in the same bed or sometimes house as the man. In these societies will sleep with a man and work with him to take care of the child and that's it. Many times, they don't even ALLOW men to be around women. They seem pretty happy.
Maybe they're on to something 🤔. Marriage takes more from women than it does men. I'm starting to believe that marriage is more about control than love since matriarchal societies abandon it and patriarchal ones cling to it.
[–]SpaceC4seFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go off sis.
[–]naturopathicfantastiFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even when you are a hairless pink slit, outrageously attractive, loyal and agreeable... they will hate you and cheat whenever and with whom ever they can.
They hate women they know. When they know you, you aren’t an attractive, hairless slit anymore. You have a personality and ideas and feelings.
When we cease to be an idea we aren’t idealized any longer. It’s the new that gains their adoration. The new is an abstract construct in their mind. In short, a person who has not yet been effected by them.
What they hate in us is the reflection of their damage done on our minds.
[–]SuchBarracudaFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Truth Hurts
[–]preopiumFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even their sexuality revolves around hurting women. Just look at the shit that’s trending these days... anal prolapsing, choking, slapping, beating, hatefucking, throatfucking, rape, forced, etc. How come “real orgasm compilations” never trend? Men couldn’t give less than a damn about pleasing women and making us feel good.
[–]quirkypinkllamaFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Amennnnnn
[–]CoyoteaPartyFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is why I went from being bisexual to being a lesbian. I no longer have any attraction whatsoever to men.
[–]TiffglamourFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A QUEEN 👏👏👏👏
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