Average feminist interaction:

TyeDieKid · 2022-11-21T01:43:11+00:00

"-who causes those wars" is the dumbest argument ever. The men that died in those war most likely didn't want to go fight in those wars. Just because someone ordered them to ,doesn't change the fact that it happened. Especially when you consider that fact that queens were 27% more likely to start a war than kings. https://www.thecut.com/2016/01/european-queens-waged-more-wars-than-kings.html#:~:text=In%20a%20recent%20working%20paper,the%20reign%20of%20a%20king.

jerohi · 2022-11-20T22:15:32+00:00

The thing about men can go out at night without fear is bs of astronomical proportions.

If you ignore the risks you can do anything without fear (with some exceptions).

ImaginaryDimension74 · 2022-11-20T20:29:26+00:00

Of course she doesn’t list any actual privileges that come with being a man. She simply makes and unsubstantiated claim of privilege.

EducationalFig1911 · 2022-11-21T13:10:13+00:00

First tell me one thing, why tf are you using an wallpaper on WhatsApp????????

PackMindless8776 · 2022-11-20T20:17:22+00:00

Their "point" of :

"well anything negative that happened in history to men happened because men decided that should be so, therefore is a male problem"

should probably be punishable by death

Because it's as stupid as it is sexist

Sudden_Difference500 · 2022-11-20T20:28:29+00:00

Men are very much judged if they are fathers or not. In some cultures you are not even considered a man without children. I don’t know what this feminist is talking about.

WarHawk1902 · 2022-11-20T20:59:46+00:00

"Such a miniscule percentage", in my country men are killed 4x times more in violent crimes than women.

Punder_man · 2022-11-20T20:25:26+00:00

"Men aren't judged for their body's as much as women"

Except for you know.. if you are a man who is shorter than 6 feet tall then you get mocked constantly.
If you lie about your height on a dating app that too is license to mock you.

But if a woman lies about her weight and you call her out for it then it makes you a shallow misogynistic bigot.

Also, this feminist clearly is ignoring the classic female trope of looking for a 666 man.

6 foot tall
6 pack abs
6 figure income

Which gets played off as simply a woman's "Preference" yet if men had standards like that they would be labeled misogynists.

Schickleficks · 2022-11-21T04:05:09+00:00

If I walk outside at night, I'm likely to got mugged.

Blamo7957 · 2022-11-20T21:33:29+00:00

What people don't realize is life was shit for everyone up until about a 100 years ago. Unless you were some really powerful person, you had like no rights. In fact, im about 95% on this, the normal man didn't get a say until the late 1800's or early 1900's

Rakiri123 · 2022-11-21T05:06:38+00:00

Idk if im being completely unbiased here OP, you didnt really make a well put together rebuttal.

Foxsayy · 2022-11-20T21:17:07+00:00

Here me out fully before downvoting: I think that we should stop saying there isn't privilege because it sets you up for an uphill fight that you're unlikely to win, and it triggers the defense mechanisms to high alert immediately. Technically, it also isn't correct.

Instead, I think we should acknowledge that there is privilege, but on both sides. And there is, we just both get different privileges.

This way, we are working within the existing mental framework, making it easier to absorb and harder to reject, acknowledging their concerns as well as our own, and frames conversions in a bid for equality vs battle of the sexes. You don't even have to talk about who has it better or has more privileges unless they go there, because injustices should be corrected, and it's more difficult to tell someone they shouldn't be.

And I think this is important because it takes us from fighting over whether something exists or doesn't at all, and directly into a discussion about where it exists.

Low_Cranberry_4024 · 2022-11-20T20:55:07+00:00

I don't know what's crazier the amount of bullshit you wearnt able to counter becuase you didn't have the necessary stats on hand.

like 4 times as many victims of all violent crime being men or women seeing 80% of men as un arractive.

or the amount of bullshit you were able to counter that she used complete npc responses to resolve.

it's like she didn't even think about what she was saying.

AbysmalDescent · 2022-11-21T06:16:38+00:00

Even when men are the ones in charge and "starting wars" they usually do so in the interest of women in men too. In any war, it's men who are going to take the brunt of the suffering, and despite the fact that women will benefit from it. If a war is fought for resources, those are resources, that women will enjoy. If a war is fought for security, that is security that women will enjoy.

If women want to see more female leadership, then what are they actually doing about it? Do they still treat men as if they have to protect, provide and take leadership roles, in order to even be recognized as men, which provides the incentives for them to strive for those positions and grooms boys towards those positions? Are they actively trying to go for those positions themselves or supporting leaders that be less likely to start wars?

MrDoradus · 2022-11-21T08:51:20+00:00

"You have a 75% higher chance at getting a higher up job"

"Qualifications make you have a higher chance at a job"

It really isn't as much about the junk that is or isn't dangling in your southern parts and much more about who you know.

Strigon_7 · 2022-11-20T21:30:56+00:00

If I'm being honest there are stonger arguments that could have been made. My privileges include: an increased risk of being victim to violent crime, doing worse in school, more likely to die by suicide, more likely to be homeless, more likely to be discriminated against in family courts, more likely to be excluded from the work place based on gender quotas, more likely to wind up in prison more likely to die in war more likely to die alone and more likely to suffer unreported rape at the hands of a women, that last one is a little unfair but its still relevant. The person you're talking to doesnt have a firm grasp of the realities of the gender based issues at large in society and is unlikely to change their opinions with the arguments you offered. Also Troy? A bad example, I would have instead pointed to the most famous Russian Empress, Catherine The Great, usurped the throne from her own husband (who was eventually killed), and led furious wars with Crimean Khanate and Ottoman Empire through all her reign. She severely suppressed a few peasant riots within the country and crushed Poland which was later partitioned.

Elizabeth of Russia usurped the throne during the military coup from the young Tzar Ivan VI (who was only one year old) and led the country during two major European wars: War of Austrian Succession and Seven Years’ War.

Isabella of France, Queen of England, dethroned and executed her own husband, King Edward II, in close collaboration with her lover.

Catherine de Medici is considered to be among the main organizers of St. Bartholomew’s day massacre; she was also one of the inspirers of the Religious Wars in France.

Just a few examples of many. But the above list is not exhaustive and not my own research there are more examples. Its also noted that women often have conflicts that are longer and more violent with significantly higher casualties than their male counterparts.

ABeeBox · 2022-11-20T21:07:04+00:00

Gotta love how they constantly move goalposts. Many of my interactions with feminists would be them just endlessly moving goalposts. You could give them an article that employees favour women and blind unbiased based hiring favoured men because it all came down to skills, experience, and qualifications.

They will reply with, that's just one article, or, that's been proven false, or whatever else they can come up with.

So you link a few more studies, proper scientific literature, and again, denial and say it's cherry picking, and they'll and send you a Twitter post or an article by BuzzFeed.

So you send another handful of scientific literature and studies, and again, "but it's different for women".

Feminists are a deluded bunch that harm men as much as they harm women.

JustSomeYukoner · 2022-11-20T22:27:52+00:00

Not even close to an average interaction. I didn’t see one single ad hominem attack fired your way.

Liam_MigToe · 2022-11-20T23:17:16+00:00

I wouldn’t have even been in that conversation let alone letting it go on for that long. I’m sure there were better uses for your time, bruv.

BritishEnthusiast69 · 2022-11-21T06:00:25+00:00

Male privilege be like Men are more likely to be homeless To die in the workplace To go to war To be murdered To kill themselves More likely to be sent to prison Are automatically blamed to be the attacker/rapist in situations, even if the attacker/rapist is a woman

AgentRickDicker · 2022-11-20T21:00:42+00:00

Hot take: Stop reproducing with these women and the ideology will naturally die out.

matrixislife · 2022-11-20T22:29:11+00:00

Troy :) Careful there, or next it'll be "the majority of demi-gods are male"

hgwxx7_foxtrotdelta · 2022-11-21T06:03:13+00:00

"Men can have sex with multiple women"

Well women too can have sex with multiple men if they want & of course it must be consensual.

You think men can have sex with multiple women at any will / not consensual? It would be illegal & can be sent into jail.

yaboytim · 2022-11-21T07:28:30+00:00

The not judged for their body thing definitely isn't true. Shorter men are way less desired. The same as bald men. And men aren't given complimentary terms like "thick, bbw, fluffy, etc" when they're fat. They're just called fat. I think women judge women more harshly on looks than men do

tabletopbarseat · 2022-11-20T22:02:09+00:00

OP over here arguing against an entire country

nineteenletterslong_ · 2022-11-20T22:09:18+00:00

men never told women to stay home. social norms are dictated by women.

there are easier rebuttals to some of those points.

women are the preferred candidates in job applications. searching it will provide several examples with different ratios of "privilege", all in favor of women.

also men are more likely to be attacked on the streets at night (and day). you can look it up too and quote the studies. it doesn't mean they're killed all the time and there's no need to bring up wars.

JMB613 · 2022-11-21T04:59:01+00:00

Shes totally wrong, but sadly the person debating her didnt do the best job of shitting her completely down.

GainzGoblino · 2022-11-20T23:59:35+00:00

OP makes solid point

I'm not talking to you anymore

Woman moment lol

brloll · 2022-11-20T21:43:57+00:00

apex fallacy

TrilIias · 2022-11-20T21:02:38+00:00

Honestly, I'm not impressed by either of you.

nambivpn · 2022-11-21T04:03:14+00:00

I love how she says ‘I am not talking to you anymore’ when you start to make sense. All of history benefits men? Millions of men died in both the world wars. Men were sent to die in Vietnam. In India during the emergency period, men were forced to undergo vasectomy. Many died due to botched up surgery. Indian institutes of management give extra points to women to ensure diversity. Many states have reservation for women in government service. I cannot travel for free in bus even though I’m unemployed, while a woman earning 25000 rupees per month gets to do that. So much for male privilege.

AwkillPy · 2022-11-21T06:47:23+00:00

A handful of men started the war. Doesnt change anything. The argument was if men are priveleged, so no matter who started the war, men had to fight in it. Hence they arent priveleged.

- The amount of men killed at night are higher than women getting raped at night

- Men can have sex with multiple people because you actually have to earn it. You need to be handsome, tall, and rich all at the same time to be able to sleep with multiple women. meanwhile an average women can sleep with 100 men in one night, without any qualities a man has to have. Hence a women is definitely criticized for it because she is doing something that is so easy meanwhile a man has to earn it.

- Men are also criticized for not having children, also it's the 21st century what does it matter anyway.

- Thousands of women have been killed just because of women? wut?

- All of history benefits men? All ya'll had to do was sit and home and take care of the house while men had to go work in the mines, go to wars, work all the dangerous jobs just so you can be safe. Wut?

- Men are judged for their bodies yes.

- men are 75% more likely to get a job? first off that stat looks wrong. Second off, some people are more qualified for certain jobs.

gg

Blood2999 · 2022-11-21T09:41:34+00:00

First of all, those data shouldn't be fatalities and won't go away just by blaming men who don't ask for it and, as said, gets them automatically.

It has been found that men earn more than women but the data on this topic is generally miss leading and doesn't take into account gender equality in high education and work conditions. With worse work conditions for women, they might be less motivated to fight for a higher salary. (speculation don't pick on this one plz)

Men are judge on their body. Saying they aren't is neglecting the high discrimination fat men or underweight men might encounter.

Men are less frequently raped at night in the street. But they are also robbed. In the end, bigger people feel safer than smaller people. Women are smaller in general than men. Thus they feel more threatened. Security isn't really about gender and should obviously be a concern for everyone.

Men will also be questioned about not having kids. I know a 50 male without children and he won't see his family because they keep talking to him about that.

The sex with multiple people is true and false at the same time. It depends on the community. In a really concervative setup, women will be shamed. But Im not sure men will be gloryfied. In a more relaxed group of people, I'm not sure there is a difference. In the end people shouldn't really be judged on what they do with their body. This statement doesn't exist in a conservative world.

I don't understand the message about women being killed because they are women. Wife killed by their husband aren't killed because they are women but because the husband is a mad man. In a more conservative world, women are killed or harassed because they don't obey stupid laws (hijab). But I'm not sure I see how this translates in europe for instance.

History does benefit white men. It is true and can't be denied. So what? They should pay? No. We have to work for equality but without leaving skill on the side walk. If respecting quotas means hiring less skillfull women, then we shouldn't have to do it. If there is less skillful women because women attend less higher education in certain fields, then we should work on that by deleting clichés going back to childhood. If we don't have gender equality in education, we can't have it in the workplace.

The war part is bullshit and shouldn't be part of this discussion. Men started war because they ruled countries. Men were fighting because they were stronger and society was patriarcal. Women stayed at home because they had to take care of kids. There was no gender equality and it won't change anything to talk about it.

RedPillAlphaBigCock · 2022-11-21T11:57:21+00:00

Feminists ONLY look at the up sides and the 1% of advantaged men. They don’t care about making workplace deaths , prison population , waste management, and suacides equal numbers .

Also don’t waste your time and energy with them, you are just putting yourself in a bad mood

Connect_Stay_137 · 2022-11-21T13:21:10+00:00

She really thinks men are killed less than women 🤣

Did she even try to Google it?

Qantourisc · 2022-11-20T21:58:21+00:00

This person is blaming current men, for men in the past. I recommend you block them unless you agree the sons should be punished for their fathers sins.

kmohame2 · 2022-11-20T22:02:14+00:00

Where do u find such people?

Nerdy_Girl444 · 2022-11-21T00:07:16+00:00

Wow, wow, she is so nuts and naive, damn.

Men were forced to war in the past and Ukraine. This slavery to war is still a thing. Intolerable thing.

Women are super desired for employees and wage gap is a myth.

Men are also unsafe at night. I heard about stabbings.

Men are not only questioned about their decision according to kids but are endangered from custody stealth. And MGTOW is so villainized. The reason for its existence is because men are done with society that doesn't appreciate them.

Fucking poison of feminism. Always portraying women as victims and men as privileged villains.

Bland-fantasie · 2022-11-21T00:22:35+00:00

Not a lot of stats in her claims. When I read about how men are disenfranchised, it’s ALL statistics. Hmm, interesting.

GamerHumphrey · 2022-11-21T10:30:02+00:00

men arent judged for their body

Tinder bios be: "dont even message me if you're not 6ft and above"

macrian · 2022-11-21T05:07:42+00:00

So, if women get paid less to do the same job, wouldn't a company prefer to hire women instead of men if they have the same qualifications? Why would a company prefer to hire men if they can get the same job done for less money?

Halobruhv · 2022-11-21T00:22:38+00:00

90% of the homeless population is men

Men are 3x more likely to commit suicide

Nobody takes men mental health seriously

Men are judged and shamed for being short, fat, or to skinny

Men will never win a custody battle unless the mother is an absolute drug addict

We can't walk around at night without "fear"

idk what she means by "75% chance at getting a higher job" but men make up almost 3/4 of the STEM workforce. Men are also more likely to work overtime, grind for promotion and don't take maternity leave. We work overtime and grind for promotion because we're judged on how much we can provide.

"men cause war" Because it's the men who are in the military? War isn't started over a football game. War start because some scum wanna invade a country or fly a fucking plane into a building.

There's a reason there's more trans women (men to women) than trans men (men to women).

redpills1 · 2022-11-20T23:53:34+00:00

As usual feminists just portray everything men do as something fun, whether it is being the providers or wars. She actually speak as if women are the victims when men supposedly didn't "let" women to go to war as if war is some kind of a vacation.

2022-11-21T00:52:55+00:00

I’m on neither side.

One side thinks men aren’t judged for their bodies as much despite me, a man, mostly getting judged by women growing up. And then we have the other side. Where the guy literally tries to say women are less qualified for their jobs.

Let me say my stance. The wage gap depends the occupation. Girls can just make millions on an Onlyfans within weeks and basically use their looks to get to the top. But there’s definitely certain jobs where women have disadvantages, such as tycooning.

We can’t tell the rape statistics for sure. Women in general come forward about getting raped more. Truth is even if you’re the biggest sub boy of them all, getting raped by a girl is embarrassing. Not that it matters because men are more likely to be targeting for violent crimes anyway.

Men and women both get equally criticized for sleeping around. I don’t even know why this is a debate. Girls are considered whores and guys are considered fuckboys.

Men are probably more judged for their bodies. Go to r/shortguys. Girls are calling shortness a “red flag” and one of the top posts on the subreddit is a guy saying he’s about to kill himself. Calling fat women a red flag wouldn't fly with feminism. Women are allowed to end a relationship on Tinder by asking the height question followed by saying “you’re too short,” but whenever the guy calls a woman fat on Tinder, they’re put on r/niceguys.

Wether or not women are oppressed depends where you live. The majority of Redditors live in America. A country that not only has very superficial culture, but also where women basically have every advantage over men yet act oppressed just so they can get even more privilege than they already have. I only stay in America for the summers because I have family there, but because I’m not living with my parents for the first time this year, I’m not forced to go. I’m staying away from there.

yogaflame1337 · 2022-11-21T02:51:53+00:00

Just gotta throw the flip side.

70% of homeless people in 2020 are men.
Women aren't judged by their income, height, or physical superiority.
Men are more likely to be victims of violent crimes. Weaker men don't have the privilege of being protected by other men when walking alone at night. Women do.
Men can't decide to have children, women have that privilege.
Men are criticized/judged/shamed/insulted for being virgins.
Thousands of men have been killed just because they are men.
All of history has benefited women. Men were either killed or forced to kill.

Professional-You2968 · 2022-11-21T08:49:50+00:00

"I am not talking to you anymore" <-- This happens with all feminists when they have no more arguments. Some might stomp their feet too while they say it.

foreverclassichunter · 2022-11-20T21:43:55+00:00

the worse thing is that they generaly dont want to do any harm they dont have the intention to spread this misinformation they are just so brainwashed that they realy bellieve and think that this is the right thing and everything else is wrong and that makes them lead more people to the wrong path

PactScharp · 2022-11-21T03:20:15+00:00

"You have a 75% higher chance at getting a higher up job"

Zero evidence to support this & in fact only evidence to support the opposite, especially with all this garbage "affirmative action" and "quotas" going around.

"Men aren't judged for their bodies as much as women"

I agree, men are judged MUCH harsher, which is why women regard 80% of ALL men to be ugly, whereas men regard 60% of ALL women to be pretty. Women are not the ones being forced to live up to inhuman standards & men are not the ones with delusional standards either.

"Men can generall walk alone at nigh without the fear of being raped, assaulted or followed"

Ah yes, women/feminists love this argument, but the fact of the matter is that victimizations by strangers reports show that men are MUCH more likely to be randomly attacked in basically every country on Earth. It is true that men generally aren't as "fearful" of being alone at night but their feelings have nothing to do with their liability.

"Men can decide not to have kids & not be questioned about it"

Absolutely false, although I will grant that women are probably judged harsher for it.

"Men can have sex with multiple parners and not be judged for it"

First of all, men can't "just" have sex with multiple partners... only a tiny % of men are actually ABLE to do that in the first place. Even with those men, the idea that they get widely praised instead of being accused of being players (usually met with accusations that they treat women like trash), etc etc is absurd. Women hold ALL the sexual/dating power over men. For women, even the most physically unattractive ones, it's RIDICULOUSLY easy to get laid. For men, even the most physically attractive ones, it's still very hard. This is not a double standard & it's easy to prove this by asking women if they would prefer switching roles & be the ones who have to do ALL the fucking work. NOT ONE woman on Earth would make that trade. NOT ONE.

"Thousands of women have been killed just because they're women"

Zero evidence & I can easily say that TENS OF MILLIONS of men have been killed solely by virtue of their gender; it's called the draft. Something women were always spared from for no other reason than vagina.

"All of history benifits men"

Again, easily disproven by the fact that NOT ONE woman would switch places with men at any point throughout history, because women knew very well that men ALWAYS carried the biggest burden. Zero women were interested in experiencing this: https://youtu.be/SS1dO0JC2EE

Even if that meant they "couldn't vote"... which btw, almost none of these men in the video could do either, but not that they care about that.

It's amazing isn't it? Even by her OWN standards, women are far more privileged.

Still to this day, I have yet to hear a SINGLE legitimate female issue that's not caused by biology/evolution. I would for example consider the fact that women carry children & birth kids to be a huge male "advantage" in the sense that men don't have to sacrifice their bodies, nor their careers, to be parents, whilst women are forced to get out of the workplace for months which yes, is going to impact things like promotions & what have you. But that's not "sexism", or "patriarchy", it's BIOLOGY & if I could do anything about it, I would, but we can't. It's unfortunately something women have to deal with.

Other than these types of "female issues" (again, that have nothing to do with prejudice), I can't name one single female issue for the life of me. EVERYTHING feminsits/women say is objectively false (wage gap/rape culture), not a gendered issue (DV, sexual abuse, etc) or affect men more (less rights by law, less workplace handouts & opportunities, higher crime victimization rates, etc etc).

0ll1ek00ls · 2022-11-20T22:03:27+00:00

she has some points, but I think the real thing what matters is that we do not form "sides". feminists and masculinists both have the same mission: equal rights. this can only be acquired by working together.

ARoC2J · 2022-11-20T23:10:08+00:00

They spelled "disadvantaged" wrong.

FierceDeity_ · 2022-11-20T23:36:07+00:00

"who causes those wars"

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/02/how-women-took-over-the-military-industrial-complex-1049860

I'm pretty sure the military industrial complex indirectly causes wars, there's little proof for that of course but I do believe that lobby wants states to buy more weapons and loves new wars.

In Germany, we've been having two or three female ministers of foreign affairs (this minister is the boss of the army basically) in a row now.

I don't know, it seems to me if you give any people, no matter their gender, military power they will use it. It's really just a humans being awful problem

KRV_FromRussia · 2022-11-21T00:19:03+00:00

You won.

She picked the fight. She started to namecall. Then she says stuff like “sheesh im not talkin to you about this anymore”, as if it is your ‘fault’.

People who result to namecalling and insulting you when they want to stop the debate, have lost

broken_man_1971 · 2022-11-21T04:51:08+00:00

How does my gender determine privilege? I have busted my ass working for the last 35 years while my first wife sat at home taking care of the kids. Until they started taking care of each other. While mom sat on her ass doing nothing while the kids took care of her. And my second wife stayed at home while I worked doing nothing all day. Spent the money I made. I was lucky to get cigarettes and coffee from each check. (And I was making great salaries) so where is the privilege? Answer there was none. I had the privilege of having my kids. I had the privilege of working and wearing out my body. While my spouse's had the privilege of living rent free and free to do whoever they wanted(not a typo) and the privilege of being told I was bad husband for not being home more. Even though they spent all my money while I was working. THAT'S MALE PRIVILEGE!

throwawayincelacc · 2022-11-20T23:53:58+00:00

Did that idiot really say search it up right after saying men have no reason to fear at night?

Separate-Driver-9149 · 2022-11-21T02:18:21+00:00

Women☕☕women

modsarebrainstems · 2022-11-21T02:23:57+00:00

Well, women didn't fight in hand to hand combat roles because they'd have been slaughtered. With guns now, they have better survival odds but only as long as they're not at risk of any hand to hand combat.

And men have far more reason to fear walking alone at night, statistically. Neither of these two know what they're talking about but at least one has a vague idea.

YesYesYesVeryGood · 2022-11-21T02:43:11+00:00

She's bent on being the victim.

Bro, do yourself a favor and move on. Look for a woman who is willing to be your partner, not a complainer.

5ft_Disappointment · 2022-11-21T03:31:08+00:00

>>>WhO cAuSeS tHOsE WaRs??

ArdinOkira · 2022-11-21T04:11:03+00:00

Holy crap they aren’t very sane are they.

unowned01 · 2022-11-21T05:03:33+00:00

Didn't they use to call this penis envy?

ubertrashcat · 2022-11-21T05:42:43+00:00

Don't quote the Iliad, it's a work of fiction. The proper response is that who causes wars is irrelevant to those who die. If you really want an example go with Thatcher and the Falkland conflict and ask if by their logic should only women have gone to war because it was declared by a woman?

Angryasfk · 2022-11-21T08:48:41+00:00

The woman is plain ignorant. Women are, perhaps, more at risk of some stranger raping them as they walk at night, but I’ve long been told that this is a small minority of rapes anyway. But for all other forms of violent crime, men make up the vast majority of the victims. That’s not seriously disputed, except by ignorant feminists who just assume that this doesn’t happen to men!

The truth is that they just have the “woe is me” line and rail on not about actual mens lives, but what they imagine men’s lives are actually like in their fantasy world. And the deeper truth is that it suits them to believe this stuff. They can blame everything they don’t like about their lives on some terrible conspiracy against them. The truth that women are heavily favoured in hiring (something that is established objectively) or that men are much more likely to be a victim of violent crime than women would shake their excuse making to the core. So they just “won’t talk” to someone who brings it up!

_BlueShark87 · 2022-11-20T23:23:59+00:00

I think I’m just gonna trans to female. Seems better over there.

Efficient_Creme_3067 · 2022-11-21T01:11:28+00:00

The truly important questions here are:

What color is her hair?
How long has she been single?
What type of cats does she have?

Outside_Distance333 · 2022-11-21T00:14:46+00:00

I joined this group to escape the feminists. Not to see soy boys crying about women. Man the fuck up

BanditMcDougal · 2022-11-21T01:10:31+00:00

Both people in this thread are insufferable.

skulldice666 · 2022-11-21T14:56:35+00:00

Her nickname should be Neo because she dodged a bullet.

MoistBasementDweller · 2022-11-23T14:23:23+00:00

You literally are tho, men have more legal and social rights than women do. Men don't even have to be scared to get raped on the streets, dates, clubs etc, because statistically it happens way less to men.

Marvinkmooneyoz · 2022-11-20T20:40:39+00:00

Most categories have some sort of privilege. Women get meals bought for them, men get to walk at night in more neighborhoods, milennials get to be good at using phones, boomers get to have savings.

sabrina_strange · 2022-11-21T04:18:17+00:00

You both sound unbearable to be around

Ordinary_Job1872 · 2022-11-21T08:14:48+00:00

Very interesting to witness in real time, men deny their privileges lol i do feel bad for the chick who wrote this, they didn’t even try to understand.

One_True_Hobo · 2022-11-21T18:28:52+00:00

see this is the issue with this subreddit, we have to realize that every single person has some form or another of privilege. you have male privilege. i have male privilege. there is female privilege too, but ignoring the fact that you have male privilege is holding us back from making progress.

Just_Luck_5495 · 2022-11-20T21:04:08+00:00

The person who mentioned troy as an example is in complete denial. Who caused those wars? Women because of troy... Yeah let's ignore the fact that women weren't even allowed to be in power during most of these wars.

McDondal · 2022-11-21T00:15:53+00:00

Bitches be trippin

live-long-and-read · 2022-11-21T12:02:48+00:00

Hers. You can’t argue for shit.

silvrado · 2022-11-21T00:56:01+00:00

When the check mate is inevitable.. "I'm not talking to you anymore!"

logical-dude212 · 2022-11-21T01:12:25+00:00

Last msg is the nail in the coffin

Zipdox · 2022-11-21T02:19:37+00:00

In a scenario like this it's better to respond with links to statistics and sources, rather then verbally argument.

RedCaio · 2022-11-21T03:00:23+00:00

As the saying goes, try to boil a crab it’ll climb out but try to boil 2 crabs and they’ll be so busy fighting that they’ll boil together.

People on both sides get so caught up in “which side suffers more?” and it wastes energy and just makes people angry.

I’m not just saying it’s as easy as holding hands and singing Kumbaya, but in general we should be trying to build trust on a foundation of common ground.

So if a conversation starts to go down the route of “we’ve go it worse” “no we’ve got it worse” Etc. then it’s already too late - nothing productive will come off that conversation so might as well disengage.

zanyzazza · 2022-11-21T03:19:28+00:00

God this is so braindead. Both men and women have certain privaleges due to sex. How we perceive these, or try to mitigate them is the real issue. Stop saying men have no sex-based benefits, people will ignore everything else you have to say, because you'll sound like a deluded moron. You're gonna give more normal MRAs a bad look, and alienate yourself.

Potential-Mountain61 · 2022-11-21T03:49:00+00:00

She has a point you know. But, again, it's like comparing apples and oranges, as almost all comparisons between men and women are. Men aren't likely to be chosen as preferred candidates, in the west at least, it's the other way round. Even in India, women have quotas in EVERY freaking government jobs and educational institutes. And even if everything she said was true, she fails to acknowledge that there is "female privilege" too(quoting to her in the words she would understand).
And next time a feminist makes claim that "male privilege exists", just quote this comment back https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/xgdg52/comment/iorrhm9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 and say it's the proof that "female privilege" exists. Kudos to the person who wrote this comment btw.

Wadeem53 · 2022-11-21T06:37:44+00:00

-you are automatically privileged just because you are a man; all of the history benefits men

-"men told the women to stay at home"

Thats the kind of 'privilege' yall want lol? History would definitely benefit you more if you were the ones to fight in wars, we men are very sorry for this inconvenience 😂

almond_paste208 · 2022-11-21T06:55:10+00:00

This was a very unproductive conversation, but her points were just so invalid 💀

schliifts · 2022-11-21T07:20:57+00:00

you should learn how to redpill. youre pretty bad at it.

AccomplishedBig7666 · 2022-11-21T07:53:36+00:00

Ask them to grow a dick then if being a man is that much of a privilege.

HunterRenegade · 2022-11-21T08:25:37+00:00

Majority of victims of violent crimes are men. Female rulers have been more warmongering than their male counterparts. Women are judged more for their physique? Last I check the judging was done mostly by other women. And men are judged just as much. We just don't make as big of a deal of it. So she was indeed giving you false information.

SpiceOteric · 2022-11-21T10:59:47+00:00

This is soooo not worth the brain space

RefrigeratorMuch9776 · 2022-11-21T11:38:43+00:00

when you decide not to use logic

average_alif · 2022-11-21T13:09:23+00:00

lmao imagine debating in whatsapp

relayshionboats · 2022-11-21T13:17:23+00:00

There's too much emotion inhibiting proper discussion.... Consider the framework of relate, regulate, reason.

samkwilly · 2022-11-21T14:20:52+00:00

Twice as many men are murdered, 4 times the amount of men suicide.. 70% of the homeless are men...these are not the results of privilege.

Skywarriorad · 2022-11-21T14:53:18+00:00

People have experimented with this, resumes from woman or minority groups are like 80% more likely to get a response. Regardless qualifications the woman gets picked because shes a woman.

Who gets told they have to have a 6+ inch dick and be taller than 6 foot tall all the fucking time. At least people have control of their weight. You cant control genetics.

Women can take self defense courses and get ccps to protect themselves if they need it, also men can get raped as well and from both sexes. I dont think ive heard of a woman raping a girl.

Men get forced into paying for children they dont want because they cant just up and leave with no explanation. Men can even be forced to pay for children that arent even theirs, and its his responsibility to prove hes not the father not her responsibility to prove that he is.

Im pretty sure promiscuity is fairly frowned upon regardless the gender. its only modern media that gives the idea that men are rewarded for it, not real life.

I assume she meant to say because theyre women, or because of being a woman, not just because of women, but this honestly works for men either way. Because theyre women, they dont get drafted to fight in a war they dont know jack shit of. Because theyre women they get told to stay at home and care for the kids while we go out and fight the battles(gender stereotypes can work both ways, whaaaatt?/s). Because of women men will throw themselves into ridiculous, lethal situations that can or will get them killed because she feels hes not worth anything unless he can risk his life and come back.

Captaind7 · 2022-11-21T14:57:30+00:00

I think both sides are using crappy points and basically just fighting over who has it worse..

SnooLemons5518 · 2022-11-21T15:36:27+00:00

Who says men can go out at night without any fear ? My friend got mugged and they broke his right foot just because he had no cash .

General_Progress9036 · 2022-11-21T16:09:11+00:00

More men are killed on the street and assaulted. However more women are raped. But the number of men assaulted to women is smt like 5:1

peepee_gonzalez · 2022-11-21T16:19:19+00:00

Male privilege is a fallacy only thought up by a weak opposition. As if strong women never existed

ulpisen · 2022-11-21T16:49:51+00:00

Imo both are wrong her, male privilege is a thing just like female privilege, Being a part of groups absolutely come with various advantages and disadvantages, you could reasonably refer to those advantages as privileges

Saying "you're privileged because you're a man" is pretty dumb tho

ConchitOh · 2022-11-21T17:14:54+00:00

All seriousness aside, I’m pretty sure that historical deaths come out to around 50/50 between men and women

Clipzy22 · 2022-11-21T17:53:43+00:00

You really approached this terribly no offense. You had many stats and sources to prove claims and shut her argument down. Guys have a harder time getting a job overall compared to women and their are sources and guys get kill and assaulted more than women and therefore in the night also.

StephenLeoKingsley · 2022-11-21T19:57:53+00:00

"Men don't fear walking the streets."

I fear about being stabbed, mugged, kidnapped and raped everytime I walk the streets at night. Whenever I sense someone following me from behind I speedwalk. One of my brothers friends said "I'm a man! I don't have any fears of walking the streets at night and nor should I. If someone tries to stab me the knife will break because I'm a jacked guy so needles or sleeply time won't work ither." In short the guy got blown into pieces by a crazy Colombian ex-girlfriend. He did taste nice though.

lukirosa · 2022-11-22T00:27:04+00:00

I think the problem here is the lack of agreeing on both sides, everything she says is true at a certain level, and the same is true with you. However, these situations/arguments are not as simple as "men have privileges" "no men not have privileges" men do have privileges, but also have disadvantages, same with women, you can't reduce the argument to a yes or not. The problem with these arguments is that we don't hear the other person, we just deny everything they say without actually elaborating something out of their arguments.

Many_Temperature2116 · 2022-12-02T00:37:21+00:00

First is just what the hell?

sir07 · 2022-12-05T00:01:18+00:00

Both of you are at one point or another using biased stupid arguments but you're technically more correct imo

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