STEM fields

Ovv_Topik · 2018-06-11T10:18:16+00:00

I love that they all dyed their hair red. Lol. Nice touch.

Triskerai · 2018-06-11T13:36:13+00:00

I'm gonna ask some of the women's studies majors at my school why they personally aren't in STEM and see what happens lol

miniibeast · 2018-06-11T15:08:59+00:00

Actually just had a "discussion" with a group of 6 girls who I assume are feminist about this. They kept making claims that the reason is because of sexism. I simply asked for studies/sources to support, and they only kept repeating "a man made a sexist remark towards me once so he's stopping women from joining" okay so while I don't condone the sexism, he isn't the face of the STEM field, and that is one person saying it to one person who is still in the field. So how exactly does this help your claim? I brought this up and they constantly were just calling me sexist, putting words in my mouth that I'm "invalidating their experience" and acting like children because I challenged their premise, not even once stating I don't agree or saying that it didn't happen. Extreme feminist are actually insane.

Dicksmasher-mccock · 2018-06-11T13:37:32+00:00

Yo I posted the same thing on r/feminism and now I’m banned

rageth · 2018-06-11T15:29:34+00:00

I try to get my daughters interested into careers in STEM. Like I show them the stuff I'm doing or try and get them to look at other areas that they could go into that they wouldn't have thought about. But they just aren't interested. They just look at the expected type jobs. It takes a strong woman to go into these fields I think. But it's not for a lack of us parents actively encouraging them to do something different. I'd love to see my girls in engineering or science, maths etc.

boredrandomguy · 2018-06-11T12:22:43+00:00

Math is hard so that means it's sexist.

jcgaminglab · 2018-06-11T15:43:55+00:00

At first I thought this was a meme. Then I thought "Memes are never THIS true." My eyes locked onto the subreddit this was posted on, and it was then that I realized "This isn't a meme. This is a very good photographic depiction."

Seriously though, this is too true.

Thekingsdecree · 2018-06-11T15:12:52+00:00

This is what i can't understand ... feminists say they are all for womens choice but then when it comes to shit like this and choosing they're careers and whether they want to work part time ... suddenly that does not mesh well with the narrative and they completely blank it... when you try to bring this up its just 'shut up you sexist bigot'. And then they go around telling other young people they are oppressed because look 'there are hardly any women in stem' ... "it's totally the boogeyman patriarchy that is set up to oppress you"

cuteman · 2018-06-11T17:55:07+00:00

They want someone to do it, just not them.

My girlfriend is the same way with blinds and shelving.

sonofsuperman1983 · 2018-06-11T20:55:39+00:00

I knew a gay guy who did women’s study in uni. I am also gay so very open minded. Still thought he was a dumb fuck for wasting four years of his life. Yes he currently work for minimise wage in a call centre.

hottama · 2018-06-11T12:48:17+00:00

It's all our fault.

Smallzfry · 2018-06-11T14:39:16+00:00

I think the problem is that there's a general social stigma against women in engineering (even now). My girlfriend is in Computer Science and everyone is so surprised that she went for such a technical field, and wouldn't she prefer to do something like Graphic Design if she wants to work with computers? It's that kind of response that causes the protests we mock - we still act surprised when women go into STEM fields, and some of us (usually older generations) actively try to steer women away from those industries.

That still doesn't excuse the fact that gender studies even exists, and that it doesn't help the imbalance in STEM. The comic is accurate, but only shows part of the picture.

yoshi314 · 2018-06-11T19:55:49+00:00

the main difference here is that stem studies don't just hand out the diplomas, and you have to continue your education to stay relevant in the field.

tenchineuro · 2018-06-11T12:57:26+00:00

Is that big red in the gender studies booth?

2018-06-11T17:59:35+00:00

That artist has a lot more great work.

https://web.elastic.org/%7Efche/mirrors/antifemcomics/

SmallerButton · 2018-06-11T20:01:55+00:00

You guys remember shirt-gate? That was really dumb...

andbabycomeon · 2018-06-12T13:00:48+00:00

Uhh guys Nursing is a science /health field Out of my cohort this year I’ve had about a 5:1 ratio of females to males

Just saying.. where the male nurses at?!

TheImpossible1 · 2018-06-11T18:46:14+00:00

I know this sub caters to a lot of people I just personally wish that meme posts comics and shitposting either wasnt allowed or was kept to certain days.

Whenever people view us or talk about us they ignore the articles and stats that are linked. The personal experiences talled about here that are held as a gold standard of proof in some subs get ignored because they can point to this and say ...

Oh it must be so bad that yall are meme'ing.

Or pointing to various comments That maybe are hateful (whether or organic or astroturfed which i know on a personal level does happen) and say either we dont actually care or nothing is wrong.

Just one persons opinion is all. Anyways best of the day to everyone.

Edited for a little better clarity.

MegaManZer0 · 2018-06-11T17:35:33+00:00

I am posting one comment here to see if I get banned from the feminism sub because that would be absolutely hilarious.

viper12a1a · 2018-06-12T00:44:05+00:00

Right now, it's very difficult for men in, or trying to get into, STEM. Everyone only wants female students or graduates.

Several of my friends have been repeatedly passed over for women for no other reason than gender.

EngWheeler · 2018-06-11T22:53:26+00:00

It’s okay. More jobs for me. I don’t feel bad automating the skill free low wage jobs out from under the gender studies grads.

Darthwilhelm · 2018-06-11T23:15:43+00:00

Can this get stickied, I've seen this all over the place

Ghostwarrior215k · 2018-06-11T08:13:29+00:00

This has been reposted so many times it isn't even funny.

Mythandros · 2018-06-11T21:36:51+00:00

I worked at a call centre a while ago and was having a similar discussion work a workmate.

She claimed there was a bias against her in the STEM field. I asked for examples.

She couldn't provide any and just said they wouldn't accept her.

I asked her if she would want to work with someone who had such a negative attitude, regardless of gender.

She had no answer and walked off.

EDIT: a word

trig_newbton · 2018-06-12T01:06:43+00:00

I am a female software engineer. I come to this subreddit because i like to have a balanced view, and i like to be aware of issues that impact each gender specifically. From my perspective, this image is divisive, and is a strawman argument entirely. Or perhaps it is a response to some horrific extreme feminist echo chamber that deserves no attention in the first place. But the argument that it addresses is not something that should be dismissed entirely.

I believe women have a hard time going into this field because it can be difficult trying to fit in with a group of people that you arent used to interacting with. I am a female in my late 20's, and every single person at my company that i have worked with has been male, the vast majority which are 50-70 years old. It takes a huge leap from your comfort zone, and, with the educational challenges, it can be a scary thing! Up until the point where i began to mesh with my coworkers, i constantly second guessed my abilities and wondered if i had made a huge mistake.

Women arent necessarily less passionate about this field - in the early computer science days, the majority of workers were women. That was up until the career path started being painted as a job for a reclusive masculine figure. You know the one im talking about - the archtype that comes to mind when i mention the word "programmer"

I am absolutely not trying to preach or promote some feminist agenda on the subreddit dedicated to mens rights. I am just here to express some level of disappointment. Many of us recognize your struggles as a gender and want to be on your side! These types of posts are divisive, and make it difficult for someone from my perspective feel like i can back you guys up where i think it matters.

hottama · 2018-06-11T12:48:32+00:00

It's all our fault.

OliverBludsport · 2018-06-11T14:23:24+00:00

The difference in commentary between r/feminism and r/mensrights is basically a case study of the merits of feminism. Mensrights talks shit, expresses contempt, is outright aggressive, and virtually never gets into the rational weeds of it's position. r/feminism has a detailed, intellectually rigorous comment in nearly every thread, tears down specious ad hom bullshit like OP's post here, and much less often acts out it's own kind of violence. I can't blame them for that though. Cause here's a top post on r/mensrights yet again just taking a fat shit on something instead of getting into the merits of it's position. We men need to learn that just fighting things until they go away only works in a society none of us want our children to grow up in, and that we stoically suffer through at our jobs, in our marriages, in our families, in ever facet of our lives. Something we're not necessarily individually complicit in but collectively we must cultivate an environment where we can explore without kicking and screaming every step of the way.

Title	STEM fields
Author	Dicksmasher-mccock
Upvotes	2820
Comments	228
Date	June 11, 2018 7:24 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8q7mne/stem_fields/
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