So I was told a long time ago that expecting a relationship or love for being a good person was entitlement

Ok, thats not accurate

I was expressing that a simple hlkl virgin might look at someone he knows with shit character and all the things that women say make that man nonviable as a partner and despite that personality defect ( the personality defect being his entire personality) just fucking slaying

This guy( the hlkl virgin) is not saying that he deserves to have his dick sucked at that moment by kiera knightly, but certainly he is not wrong to expect him to do a little bit better than the scumbag... or better yet, the scumbag having the complete lack of access or the ability to hurt women because women are repulsed by him ( like they say they would be)

The commenter messaged back saying something along the lines of it still being entitlement

I disagree.

Lets put it this way and re-frame it a little ---

"A man expecting romantic success ( even if it takes a few years ) for "just being a decent person' is no more entitled than a woman Expecting to feel and be safe " just for existing as a woman in the world."

Tell me why am i wrong.

And no moral claims please. yeah yeah everyone should feel safe, but sadly such is our world.

I am 5'6". I have never felt safe walking alone at night or in a crowded street. If i ever had the misfortune to end up in a fight, its a struggle not to hyperventilate freaking about being hit n the face so hard that i might die.

I accept the risk of harm everyday to the point that it is second nature now.

To me when women talk about 'deserve to feel safe' it sounds entitled as shit.

Perhaps thats what bluepillers feel when i and people of my ilk say " A decent man should be able to get a relationship" ?

Edit - Guys can we not have a incel uprising themed comments? Please and thank you

and secondly we are going into the weeds of assualt and rape with this topic so lets keep the entitlement of women to being safe in the general sense ( because no one is safe really) and also the expectations they have on men to make them feel safe, eg not look at them in the gym, not stare a them in public, not walk behind them while walking at night. In all these examples the man may not eve want to interact with the woman, but she expects him to act in a way that makes her feel safe or just fucking leave s that she can feel safe --- that has to be entitlement