A religious, Q-Anon following white man targeted and killed 8, most of whom were female Asian sex workers. The news is only focusing on the race aspect and not the gender or sex work aspect. Never doubt the danger men pose.

BananaSlugGhost · 2021-03-17T15:41:41+00:00

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Emergency-Feed8216 · 2021-03-17T16:52:46+00:00

Apparently the guy frequented these spas so the narrative is shifting to his "sex addiction." https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/03/17/atlanta-spa-shootings-live-updates/

Imagine if battering began being defined as "punching addiction."

azureangel35 · 2021-03-17T18:47:11+00:00

Can we coin MPV male pattern violence? cuz it's as prevalent as male pattern baldness and yet somehow the later gets far more attention. 😣

myoklife · 2021-03-17T15:04:52+00:00

People need to start calling it what it is! Male supremacy. Misogyny and patriarchy are not strong enough terms IMO.

I think male supremacy is fundamental to white supremacy and people don't see that. They want to distinguish between the two and language helps with that.

pearlspaghetti · 2021-03-17T17:16:21+00:00

Libfems, tell us again how “sex work” is empowering to women when THIS is one of the horrible realities. I’m enraged and disgusted. Those poor women. They were no doubt trafficked, like most women in these “spas”. What a cruel end to an already cruel existence. Rest In Peace.

BananaSlugGhost · 2021-03-17T14:51:28+00:00

If you doubt that these "massage parlors" are fronts for prostitution, feel free to look at the Yelp reviews for these places or google "Atlanta Asian spa prostitution raid." Most of these women were coerced or trafficked, as well.

_jellybeanqueen_ · 2021-03-17T20:42:11+00:00

From a western lens, sex work is idealized if you are a young woman born and raised in a western country, can leverage technology to amass a following and fame on ig, onlyfans, etc. and earn a comfortable living from your clout. But if you leave your country to enter another with little support or no knowledge of the new system, sex work is literally 1 of the 10 things you can do to make a living as a woman and it's not something you brag about especially if you were raised from a good family in your former country. Sex work is degrading because you are using your body, the only vessel you have in life, to service someone and that in of itself is a transaction. I'm not even religious or anything but sex work, regardless of what class of sex worker you are, is wrong on so many levels — economically, we've reached the point where everything can be treated as a good to market and consume, including sex which has no business being exchanged that way, and by doing so you remove all the spiritual weight and gravitas from literally the most sacred act.

Personally speaking, I can attest to the amount of aunties I know who work in nail salons after freshly coming to North America, and having to work there for years and years because they never integrated into society and weren't able to reap the benefits of social safety nets. So if damaging your hands and breaking your back to do nails and scrub feet is seen as undesirable servitude, imagine having to put yourself in the most vulnerable position where a guy can use you how he sees fit because he paid for it.

Winter-Firefly · 2021-03-17T20:58:00+00:00

Men are so, so violent towards prostituted women. The entitlement that literally being able to buy a woman’s body breeds is terrifying. Pure evil.

oceanstains · 2021-03-17T19:20:37+00:00

Thank you! I’ve been thinking about this all god damn day. No one ever wants to say it is MISOGYNY AND FEMICIDE

MrsJohnMarston__ · 2021-03-17T15:50:15+00:00

I noticed this as well! On BBC news they were not even noting the blatantly misogynistic nature of it. I’m sure it’s racist.

But, it’s an attack on fundamentally on vulnerable women. HOW IS THAT DETAIL MISSING???

tallwomenneedlovetoo · 2021-03-17T14:56:45+00:00

Not to get too too deep into it. But I was about a block away from one of the locations when this racist POS shot it up.

I live in the Dirty South where people often say, “the only thing that defeats a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun!” But I can say with all my heart, as a non-ambiguously black woman who works and lives in predominantly white areas, nothing frightens me more than a white man shopping at the Whole Foods or Kroger with a gun openly on his hip. I don’t feel safe; I feel threatened.

And it’s only ever white men who feel bold enough to think they can police the world. I’ve never seen Hispanic, Black, Asian, or any other race of men do this. I wonder why 🤔

nithanitha · 2021-03-18T02:48:36+00:00

This title is very misleading and even (perhaps unintentionally) undermining the role race plays in misogyny. I don’t know where you get your news- but from what I’ve seen- the media is absolutely highlighting the gendered aspect of this massacre and they are absolutely justified in specifically highlighting how the women’s race play into growing anti-Asian violence, and puts them in particular risk.

I hate when women say “this isn’t about race -no one’s talking about gender” It’s about BOTH. And you can’t talk about violence against women without talking about race.

Unless we begin our conversations on gender violence with a lens of how WOC are particularly targeted then we are completely failing these women.

Stop trying to erase women of colour’s race.

Edited- spelling error

ScrappleSandwiches · 2021-03-17T15:54:54+00:00

Where are you seeing the religious QAnon thing?

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veruscka · 2021-03-17T17:49:19+00:00

Wtf. "He apparently has an issue, what he considers a sex addiction, and sees these locations ... [as] a temptation for him that he wanted to eliminate." he should have just killed himself. How there’s any confusion about if this is a hate crime or not is beyond me, he killed them because they are women.

numbers213 · 2021-03-17T15:58:51+00:00

Cherokee County is the county directly next to my county. I glanced at this post quickly this morning but just now realized it's in Georgia. My heart goes out to the people who were killed.

spinsterchachkies · 2021-03-17T15:59:15+00:00

Some incels are posting this as revenge against women. They are hailing him a hero. Disgusting

fds_account58 · 2021-03-17T16:37:00+00:00

I’m so glad someone shared this. The news article are almost DESPERATE to make this about race. Saying “assumed to be Asian” about the victims (they don’t even know) and then clarifying that only 3 of the 8 were even assumed to be Asian. Why are they so desperate to cover up the fact that it was WOMEN?

Now this guy does seem racist against Asians based on his social media history, but anti-Asian racism pairs REALLY WELL with general misogyny. Just look at the disgusting culture around anime, hentai, and Asian culture in general—the idea that these men are entitled to a childlike pornified stereotype of a submissive girlfriend/wife.

This attack was first and foremost misogynistic. It was also racist I think, but everyone has that covered.

It really makes me think. Media and culture seem really focused on race even though women of ALL races are very consistent with describing the universal experience of misogyny. It’s almost like the media and the world are trying to misdirect us.

It is NOT a zero-sum game. Racism needs to be seriously addressed. But it’s just odd to me that it’s very “in vogue” to address racism but frowned upon to bring up sexism (especially if you’re white, EVEN IF you’re raising awareness of sexist issues that disproportionately affect WOC).

Racism is an issue that is bad for men. Misogyny isn’t. That’s why.

midwesternwinds · 2021-03-17T17:23:51+00:00

Of course they only focus on the race aspect. Not that it ISN'T important, but liberal and conservative men alike will always care more about racism than sexism because men can be affected by racism, but misogyny doesn't hurt men, so what incentive do they have to care about it? And of course her line of work means either she chose to put herself in danger or else this means we need to make sexwork a safer environment instead of, you know, punishing pimps and johns and working to eradicate the evil industry altogether so women have better opportunities to fend for themselves.

BananaSlugGhost · 2021-03-17T15:38:25+00:00

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localgirlcult · 2021-03-17T17:18:11+00:00

When I heard it, and heard details about him, I immediately knew it was some incel/hyper religious type abomination targeting these places because of their perceived immorality. The issue is gonna be either he was banned from there or had some other issue there, or the usual hypocrisy of hating prostitutes but still visiting them. I hear attacks on asians in the US have increased, so the media is really trying to spin this as a racial hate crime. But I don't believe it is at all. They're like "ASIAN women. Did you hear? ASIAN women!!" Like...tell it like it is. Come on. This doesn't seem like a racially motivated attack. He attacked whichever prostitution place was near and available to him. But if people fall for the story of this being racially motivated, I will be exactly zero percent surprised. I believe asians who may have experienced nasty shit lately, but this isn't connected to that. I've seen on a beauty related sub some woman saying it was an attack on asian women in the beauty community. Girl, they were not in the fucking beauty community. They were not that kind of "spas", for fucks sake. All these people born literally yesterday. I don't even know how they live everyday with childlike naivety.

edit - Now reading about it. The reason was "He apparently has an issue, what he considers a sex addiction, and sees these locations as a temptation for him that he wanted to eliminate" And there you fucking have it. And connected to that, this is important to read as he was a member of a southern baptist church. The way they talk about women as "temptations" just helps these shitty men get worse.

Twitter thread part 1

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ShieldMaidenLagertha · 2021-03-17T22:03:08+00:00

He actually treated them like fleshlights, like things he could break and throw away so he wouldn’t be tempted to use them anymore. It’s so indicative and revealing of the pornsick incel mindset. They think women exist for their use.

Zurflu · 2021-03-17T18:21:12+00:00

I'm sorry but I am sooo fucking disgusted by men I don't know how I can even be straight anymore. Men get a rub and tug on every corner of every town on earth and raping those women isn't enough, they must also be MURDERED? This honestly is giving me such a grim outlook of society rn.

Apricot_Ibex · 2021-03-17T19:50:22+00:00

And libfems/MRAs repeat the lie that access to porn and prostitutes will make violent men LESS violent. How utterly disgusting and disrespectful when they dare say this. For all the idiots saying FDS are SWERFS- I for one want to INCLUDE sex workers into feminism by recognizing how they are horribly exploited 24/7 and how the sexist men who visit them despise them and want to hurt them!

My thoughts are with the families of these women. I'm sure they each had special hopes and dreams that had nothing to do with working at a massage parlor around creeps like this sicko. This is heartbreaking.

Clearly it is an act of misogyny, and in my opinion, also clearly an act of racism. He is a white male sex addict enjoying exploiting Asian women, while also despising them. He reminds me of Philip Grandine. Both white men with religious conservative backgrounds (Grandine was an ex-Baptist pastor), both porn and sex addicted, with a fetish for Asian women, and frequented Asian massage parlors. Grandine murdered his pregnant wife (who was also Asian) for trying to stop his out of control behavior. Libfems need to understand that male monsters like this don't even see women as human beings deserving of life, much less as equals.

Fitncurly · 2021-03-17T20:43:43+00:00

I’m so angry hate crimes against women for being female aren’t even classified as such. Fuck this world.

tallwomenneedlovetoo · 2021-03-17T18:01:57+00:00

UPDATE! These shitty good ol’ boy cops just tried to justify this animal’s behavior by bringing up the fact that they were sex parlors and said the locations were “a temptation he wanted to eliminate” and saying he had “a really bad day”

They’re literally pieces of human garbage doing what I thought they would. They’re shifting the blame to the 7 women for being “temptations” to him instead of blaming the murdering POS. I H A T E it here

pickmieshaexorcist · 2021-03-17T15:37:17+00:00

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stopvolution · 2021-03-17T17:15:58+00:00

I live down the street from the one in Cherokee County. It’s definitely prostitution, not “massage” and I doubt these women were there voluntarily. People here were saying mob hit at first, but I knew it was an incel/domestic terrorist/hate crime against women the minute I saw it was a scrawny white guy.

Aggressive_Birthday4 · 2021-03-17T21:34:20+00:00

I saw this on Instagram today since a lot of my friends posted about it. Turns out he has a thing for dominating Asian women, yet the media dubs it “sex addiction”. Nah, that’s misogyny and racism but too many porn-addicted scrotes would stir up a shitstorm if they called it that.

Just because he wanted to fuck them, doesn’t mean he’s not racist. I’m so angry and disgusted that sexist pigs are debating if this was a hate crime or not. They know it was.

Bikkie5233 · 2021-03-17T20:11:59+00:00

Some (still many) men in the korean community is trying hard to argue that it wasn’t related to racism, sexism, etc. I don’t know why and how they could think racism doesn’t exist when they’re literally minorities probably experiencing racism quite frequently. How is it that first gen asian men think racism is nonexistent while second+ gen asian men become incels blaming racism?

As an asian woman, I thank fds once again for stopping me from going into sex work. I was close to becoming one and I could have been there. Dead and “empowered” by what libfems say. Many prayers for the victims, and I hope women in similar situations like that would get out soon.

Lavender_flow · 2021-03-17T18:28:38+00:00

Ah yes, Sex work is so empowering. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Charming-Bee-2337 · 2021-03-17T22:41:56+00:00

I saw a tiktok calling out that the Manchester attack at Ariana Grandes concert was also misogyny based and no one reported on that and instead used it as leverage for their political beliefs about religion and immigration.

Skittleschild02 · 2021-03-18T02:26:55+00:00

It’s sickening how people are trying to sugarcoat it. The guy killed a bunch of women because he was having a bad day?

Do you know what I do when I have a bad day? Work out, Go for a drive, Journal, Hug my dog, or Indulge on my favorite comfort foods

The last thing on my mind is taking a fucking life because I can’t deal with the fucking world.

It was a hate crime. Period!!

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