People should dress modestly in public

wtknight · 2023-04-24T23:46:00+00:00

Flaired CMV as this post is making an affirmative claim

Popular_Accountant60 · 2023-04-24T23:08:43+00:00

While I have always said there is a time and place for everything when it comes to how you dress, at the end of the day as an adult you are responsible for your own thoughts and actions , no one else’s. Im a very attractive woman who dresses ‘modestly’ because that is just my sense of style. I also wear a wedding ring. Decent men know not to approach me but there are plenty of indecent men out there who don’t seem to care about the ring or the fact that I’m not interested. Please stop blaming the actions/thoughts of others on how someone dresses. People who can’t control their own desires lack self control and discipline, two things an adult should not be lacking. And if you lack those things you need to work on yourself so you can better function in society

fakingandnotmakingit · 2023-04-24T23:42:51+00:00

If your body is beautiful then you will cause others to have lustful thoughts of you which they may not wish to have. If such a person is in a committed relationship such thoughts may pain their partner.

The cause isn't the person wearing whatever they want.

The cause is your shitty self control.

thekinkyhairbookworm · 2023-04-25T03:01:07+00:00

This has to be a troll post because I cannot fathom a rational human being typing this out, reading it over, and thinking this was a good take.

MyLastBestChance · 2023-04-24T23:55:56+00:00

So you’re saying that men are so weak willed that they have to be protected from their own minds?

They are so lacking in discipline that they can’t control their own eyes?

Wow… that’s sad.

CapsuleCorpLogo · 2023-04-24T23:15:19+00:00

Uhhhh idk about you but I don’t mind women wearing crop tops. I live in the the south in America so it’s pretty common and dare I say looks pretty good on them.

anonymous-platypus1 · 2023-04-24T23:33:22+00:00

My boyfriend and I will both look, respectfully, of course. I’m not going to get offended because he find another woman to be attractive. If he acts on it then it’s a different story.

Anyone that just needs to see an attractive person and can be incentivized to cheat by their body was going to cheat anyway.

fiftypoundpuppy · 2023-04-25T00:33:28+00:00

At one point, showing one's ankles was considered immodest.

At another time, women wearing pants was scandalous.

Please describe a logical, objective way of women dressing "modestly in public" and "appreciating the consequences of their actions before they advertise their beauty." I'm kind of thinking you mean something like this.

Unfortunately, eyes can also be beautiful. I think that is grave cause for concern. Maybe we could add blindfolds and government-sponsored seeing-eye dogs for all post-pubescent females? 🤔

Please also explain, logically, how the onus should fall on half the population to make them responsible for others' reactions to them. What if a binge eater is triggered by a thinner woman? What if a man with bigorexia is ashamed of his body when he encounters a more muscled man?

Perhaps we should completely separate society by sex and body type? Thin 7's with other thin 7's, fat 3's with other fat 3's. Never shall the groups mingle.

What an insanely based, reasonable take.

Miserable_Yam4778 · 2023-04-25T03:13:36+00:00

Put out your own eye as Jesus commanded. You are responsible for yourself and your thoughts.

ohdiddly · 2023-04-25T03:57:04+00:00

No 💅🏻

MiddleZealousideal89 · 2023-04-24T23:19:33+00:00

You dont need to wear tight shorts that cutoff halfway up your thighs and show a bare midriff just because its hot outside. I wear swim trunks and a loose T-shirt and Im fine with the heat. Unless you're at the beach, a waterpark or some other place where there don't seem to be modest options then you should be dressing modestly.

Why should I or any other woman dress ''modestly''? Sure, I don't need to and I don't always wear short shorts and a tank top outside when it's hot, it's not a look for every occasion, but you haven't provided any good reason as to why I shouldn't do that.

If your body is beautiful then you will cause others to have lustful thoughts of you which they may not wish to have. If such a person is in a committed relationship such thoughts may pain their partner.

You and you alone are responsible for managing your emotions. If seeing pretty people makes you act in ways that hurt your partner, that's a ''you'' problem and you need to change your behavior.

Others may react with an unpleasant upward and downward comparison. They may think your body is more beautiful than theirs and now their self esteem takes a hit and they may experience envy or humiliation.

Again, you and you alone are responsible for managing your emotions. If seeing a sexy person walking down the street makes them feel like that, they need to get some therapy and work on their self-esteem.

I don't know why you think other people have a responsibility to cater to your specific issues.

Novadina · 2023-04-25T00:38:38+00:00

But why? Why shouldn’t we just wear whatever we want?

Unless you’re at the beach, a waterpark or some other place where there don’t seem to be modest options then you should be dressing modestly.

What’s the difference in those places? If there are “consequences” from wearing less clothing, why wouldn’t these consequences happen at the beach??

People should appreciate the consequences of their actions before they advertise their beauty.

What are these consequences you speak of, exactly?

How is wearing certain clothing items “advertising their beauty”?? Is there some clothing item someone beautiful can wear that results in people not knowing they’re beautiful? It you are suggesting people wear this beauty-concealing clothing in order to not advertise their beauty, please share what clothing that is!

If your body is beautiful then you will cause others to have lustful thoughts of you which they may not wish to have. If such a person is in a committed relationship such thoughts may pain their partner.

And those thoughts don’t happen at water parks? So anyone with a beautiful body should just stay locked in their house except to go to pools and the beach?? Or you think they should wear a box to conceal their body? (But for some reason still show it off at the pool?) What if someone has a beautiful face that causes lustful thoughts in people - should they cover that too? What if they have beautiful eyes? What if their voice is beautiful, should they not speak?

If people have a problem with my beauty and their own thoughts about it, that’s their problem, and I am pretty sure they’d have a problem with it no matter what I wore, so thats why I just wear what is comfortable, and I see no reason to change that.

MxMaster9907 · 2023-04-25T00:47:07+00:00

Nah fuck that, this ain’t Saudi Arabia, i appreciate my freedom.

Perfect-Resist5478 · 2023-04-25T03:13:45+00:00

1) it’s almost as if not everyone on the planet has your heat tolerance

2) I’m not responsible for your lustful thoughts. If you are distressed by your thoughts, get a therapist and process them.

3) I’m not responsible for your self esteem. If looking at my body causes you to feel insecure, get into the gym and work out. I’m not diminishing my comfort or happiness to take care of the feelings of some stranger

DeepHouseDJ007 · 2023-04-24T23:15:19+00:00

Dude screw that everyone has the right to dress in a way that makes them feel good and that’s that. It’s ridiculous to think people should have to accommodate the whims of incels, Muslims and manosphere “trad” losers when they pick their outfit for the day every morning. And it’s also ridiculous to think people should have to worry about someone being jealous or offended. That’s THEIR problem.

Justwannaread3 · 2023-04-25T00:53:53+00:00

People are allowed to like and wear different kinds of clothing and have the right to expect that people will not ogle or leer or harass them for the clothing they choose.

gymbronyc718 · 2023-04-25T01:28:04+00:00

Hot pants and tank top with high heels or death. Accept no substitutes.

MistyMaisel · 2023-04-25T02:02:23+00:00

In Victorian London, to glimpse a woman's ankle was seen as sexual. In Judaism, a woman's hair is sexualized. To some sects of Muslim's, a woman's face is the sexual thing along with everything else.

What I'm saying is, modesty as a concept is bankrupt. Men will sexualize nearly anything and everything if they want to. The problem here is in men's hearts and refusal to discipline themselves. Not in women's dress or lack thereof.

Control yourselves, stop trying to control women because you're all apparently weak-willed goons.

eefr · 2023-04-24T23:27:48+00:00

Should I never wear sandals in the summer because some men are foot fetishists? Should I never wear hosiery under my skirts because some men go crazy for that? Should I avoid eating in public in case a feeder fetishist walks by? Should I avoid walking up a staircase because some men find it arousing to look at women's asses as they climb stairs?

People are free to think whatever they like in the privacy of their own minds, but I'm not going to base my life around the possibility that someone somewhere could get a boner. They are responsible for managing their sexual desire and placing mature adult boundaries on their actions. I am responsible for managing my own thoughts and desires, but not theirs.

It is completely unreasonable to take your own problem maintaining boundaries and use it as an excuse to curtail other people's lives. If I am on a diet, I don't get to tell others they can't eat in front of me.

Safinated · 2023-04-25T00:44:11+00:00

People should maintain control of themselves in public

FTFY

MxMaster9907 · 2023-04-25T00:47:52+00:00

People should appreciate the consequences of their actions before they advertise their beauty

Lmao, what are u trying to say here buddy?

AlmostKindaGreat · 2023-04-25T06:27:01+00:00

Heh. Lots of women get turned on by guys in suits. I bet a bunch of women have cheated on their partner with some guy who looked great in a suit. Should we ban those too?

AsparagusMurky882 · 2023-04-25T10:42:16+00:00

"If your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it away from you."

RocinanteCoffee · 2023-04-26T09:04:33+00:00

People should dress modestly in public

Lack of modesty is relative.

In Kabul it's almost any skin showing.

In Salt Lake, it's shoulders or knees showing.

In Miami it's sideboob showing.

Barring dress codes wear what you want with care for public health (genitals covered) and safety (best not to wear a bikini near glassblowing).

Sometimes not even dress codes should be honored. The only way women got to start wearing jeans and slacks in the US in school was by breaking the rules in the 1960s.

People should appreciate the consequences of their actions before they advertise their beauty

Pray, what consequences are there to wearing what you want? People dress the way they want for all different reasons.

If your body is beautiful then you will cause others to have lustful thoughts

If your eye offends you pluck it out. People need to learn to deal with seeing humans and the human form. Otherwise they'll have a conniption fit the first time they go to the beach.

AstronautLoveShack · 2023-04-25T00:02:58+00:00

Oh look, it's the morality police! It got to be 126 here last summer. I'm going to dress accordingly. I'm also a swimmer so wearing loose clothing in the pool is going to add to my time when I'm doing laps. I dress appropriately when the occasion requires, I know not to wear a thong bikini to work or to church. On my own time on a hot day, I'ma wear a sundress whether you like it or not.

How about you wear what you like, the rest of us wear what we like, and you just don't look at the people who offend you, like I do when people wear Crocs.

Steakman1 · 2023-04-24T23:11:26+00:00

You had me in the first half. Or I guess first paragraph. But to say it is the woman’s fault that the man in a relationship has lustful thoughts and strains the relationship as a result is a reach and is absolving the man of any accountability. It is well within the man’s control to not be around the woman if her attire is that distracting. Of all the times I’ve seen women dressing provocatively, not once was I not able to remove myself from the situation if I needed to. Men should be perfectly capable of self control.

Women having insecurities about their own bodies as a result of seeing an attractive woman is their problem. To say beautiful women need to cover up so other women don’t feel insecure is rediculous. It is the responsibility of the insecure woman to deal with their insecurity if just seeing an attractive woman is enough to set them off.

Women can dress modestly while still highlighting their figure. And I don’t really see the issue with that. It’s certainly more attractive to me than a woman who leaves little to the imagination. And a man will still be able to tell that they have a really nice figure. The only way to get out of this would be for women to wear burkas. Dressing modestly would not be enough. And I hope you are not advocating for women wearing burkas.

Existing-Sign4804 · 2023-04-24T23:35:41+00:00

Mid thigh shorts and a crop top are perfectly acceptable for casual wear in public. It’s a standard outfit for girls starting around age 10 in my country. I wouldn’t wear it, cause it doesn’t suit me, I’m over 40 and overweight, but it wouldn’t cross my mind to give a crap about another woman wearing it. If she looks good in it, great for her!!! If you can’t control your boner cause someone’s wearing that, go home and stay there. Women aren’t gonna wear burkas cause you have no self control.

GridReXX · 2023-04-25T00:14:18+00:00

“How dare you show off that man thigh, calves, biceps, and forearm in public! You’ve turned on people by existing in masculine form. Go in the house whore!”

You see how I could find your outfit immodest?

As a man you should be a in a formless burlap sack down to your feet so that I can’t at all discern the masculine lines of your shoulders, chest, and physique. Be still lust!

And don’t you dare have a cute face. If your face is cute wear a burqa man!

JasenBorne · 2023-04-25T00:16:12+00:00

i don't know how someone is supposed to change your view on what is a personal preference. i like red; you like blue. hey i win!

Others may react with an unpleasant upward and downward comparison. They may think your body is more beautiful than theirs and now their self esteem takes a hit and they may experience envy or humiliation.

this is weird tho. why should someone care if their beautiful body makes someone, who is likely a complete stranger, insecure about theirs? their feelings are their problem. also notice that insecure people will always find a way to feel insecure because it's an internal issue - not an external one. you see it on the internet all the time - people feeling bad about themselves over the most ridiculous things. guaranteed this person with self esteem issues will still find a way to be jealous of beautiful people if they are fully clothed.

Over_Noise3530 · 2023-04-25T02:50:56+00:00

If people feel envious or humiliated they should be motivated to lose weight. People like to brag about their accomplishments, jobs and possessions, I should be able to show off my body that I worked hard on

Oli_love90 · 2023-04-25T05:26:48+00:00

I see more people dressed modestly than not, seems that you’re not seeing them because they actually are modestly dressed.

Maybe the answer is to stop fixating on the few that offend thine eyes and cast your delicate gaze to the people who are not showing too much skin.

KayRay1994 · 2023-04-25T11:56:45+00:00

man would love fundamentalist islam

No_Bag5505 · 2023-04-24T23:19:09+00:00

Bigotry much?

This reads like a religious zealot's manifesto.

People should appreciate the consequences of their actions before they advertise their beauty.

What are you implying here? I seriously hope it's not the r word.

If your body is beautiful then you will cause others to have lustful thoughts of you which they may not wish to have.

In others words: you can't control your lust so they need to control their actions. A story as old as time. The basis of religion.

Others may react with an unpleasant upward and downward comparison. They may think your body is more beautiful than theirs and now their self esteem takes a hit and they may experience envy or humiliation.

So it's the fault of the person and not a shortcoming in the other people making comparisons?

This post man... Damn.

januaryphilosopher · 2023-04-25T09:30:32+00:00

So long as the important bits are covered, it's your own choice how you dress. If you don't like what you see, you can not look, but a body is just a body and if you can't handle that you probably need to grow up a bit. You can get "lustful thoughts" or jealous thoughts from anywhere, even if you're in a relationship, and it's on you to find ways to deal with that instead of demanding everyone else dresses to your standards (which will ultimately just raise the bar of what you consider modest).

Thucydides00 · 2023-04-25T13:57:34+00:00

Halfway up the thigh isn't particularly short for shorts, certainly not obscene to any degree, and the midriff area is arguably not sexualised by exposure, from how vehemently you put this and how draconian your standards of modesty are you sound like some flavour of extreme conservative or an intensely religious person, your standards are out of step with current social mores and a liberal society, perhaps Saudi Arabia is more your speed?

ivyleaguehoodrat · 2023-04-24T23:26:17+00:00

“What other people think of me isn’t my business.”

I wear what I want. Deal with your own emotions about it.

shine_light888 · 2023-04-25T01:02:13+00:00

It’s not the responsibility of the women to appeal to everyone around them. If I’m comfortable in what I wear, than I’m not entitled to explain myself to others or placate the egos of others. If a man doesn’t have enough self control to prevent himself from acting inappropriately around women’s clothing, than he has a problem.

dumbbitchcas · 2023-04-25T00:55:55+00:00

You’re a pathetic loser. Develop some self restraint.

Over_Noise3530 · 2023-04-25T02:58:48+00:00

Just be careful because if I dress like this and you harass me this summer I am getting you on video and you're going viral

jonascf · 2023-04-26T15:51:43+00:00

Damn, I really need to get back into exercising so that I can inspire lustful thoughts again...

purplish_possum · 2023-04-25T22:50:54+00:00

Nah. Nothing wrong with lustful thoughts.

LMM-GT02 · 2023-04-25T05:17:16+00:00

Any girl in the western world 18-35 did not get the memo.

Y’all dressed like some slutty wenches out there and I gotta just pretend to not see some absolute dump truck-level ass jiggling by at the grocery store. Then you turn around and the braless mammories are jumping for joy at every step in low-cut crop top.

It’s quite stimulating while I’m buying oatmeal, but it does feel a bit much.

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2023-05-02T02:33:33+00:00

What are “the consequences of their actions” for people who wear immodest clothing to public places?

Title	People should dress modestly in public
Author	bifewova234
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Comments	138
Date	April 24, 2023 11:00 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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