Did the behaviour from women in your family confirm or disprove the red pill?

KaleidoscopeOk9162 · 2023-12-26T15:53:14+00:00

My father was abusive. He once beat my mother very badly to force her sell a share of the family business to a guy who then proved to be shady, a move that put the family in dire straits. He mentally abused me and my sister for years and while we somehow healed from our trauma it still shows a lot. He had a gambling debt before getting married, my mother helped paying it off. He cheated on her (but apparently she was frigid). He died relatively young and decades later my mother is still madly in love with him. The violence I saw worked as a “Ludovico Technique”, making me incapable of hurting anyone and making me an “intended victim”: I was repeatedly bullied and abused to the point of attempting suicide. I survived by the skin of my teeth. I also became a natural simp, petrified by the idea that any display of dominance could be an abuse, hence getting ripped off and humiliated by several women. One could see a lot of “pill” in all of the above, I prefer to free myself from a deterministic fate. I rose back from my ashes and look ahead.

Edit: spelling

Ogdocon · 2023-12-26T04:08:10+00:00

It confirms it, all the women in my family date toxic men. Drug dealers and felons mostly. Pretty much all of them are also single mothers. Some have multiple fathers, all felons. lol I’ve never see one of them with a guy that was any different.

Old_Reputation_8980 · 2023-12-26T01:19:03+00:00

I think for me my family didn't effect me at all, but I think that my wife now being who she is has strengthened me and I've strengthened her.

Nihi1986 · 2023-12-26T01:59:41+00:00

Confirmed it, but that's also because we focus on the redpilled side of the story...they also confirm some blue pills, it's not everything as extreme. However, I have to say, that for the most part it confirms red pills.

lovestocomment · 2023-12-26T03:50:05+00:00

I have cousin I was close with, years ago when we were in our early twenties. She got in a situation where two guys were into her. One guy was an older party promoter around 12 year older. The other was a grad student in university majoring in engineering. Looks wise , I think most women would find both equal. Now, the student really liked her and asked her out. She went on one coffee date with him. And called him boring. All he spoke about was how he liked her, how much he can't wait to start his career and how he'll love to get to know her. She told him straight up that he was boring and broke. Which messed him. However, stayed focus and moved on.

The promoter took her to really nice club. Set her up in VIP and bought her jewelry. He told her that he already had a son but him and the kids mother don't speak. She loved how smooth he was and he made her feel like a queen.

And long story short she chose the promoter. Why, he made her feel great.He had "game" etc. Now she's a baby mama raising her son by her self. Her baby daddy is struggling working at DHL and they are no longer together. He never spoke to her about marriage. He cheated on her. And now they don't talk.

The engineer student now works at a car manufacturer in their engineering RnD section. He's married (for a couple years) with two kids, owns a home, two cars and making 6 figures. Throughout college he never dated. All he pretty much did was work out, study and we all played basketball. After school, he met his wife at charity event.

All of the men in the family spoke with her recommended her not to get involved with the promoter dude. She didn't listen. Why? Because of how he made her feel.

19whale96 · 2023-12-26T07:28:08+00:00

Both confirm and disprove. The women in my immediate, smaller family are generally more stoic, introspective and self-aware. The women from my grandparents' siblings' families are generally more vapid and status-oriented. The women in my immediate family are more Nancy Drew or Professor McGonagall, the others are more Mean Girls, Golden Girls, or Sex and the City.

abaxeron · 2023-12-26T14:59:16+00:00

Two or three weeks after divorcing and moving out with my dad, my mom was cohabiting with a retired criminal authority. I was 16. My less attractive female cousin gave birth to a son out of wedlock; my more attractive and more blonde and thinner female cousin aborted her baby from an undesirable suitor (too brown) and married a pasty guy with a yacht (I froggen' wish I was making this up). My most-most-most attractive, 9-10/10 female acquaintances - all married into financial well-being and citizenship of resort micro-states; at least one of them eventually abandoned her husband and married another, even more well-off and more attractive fella.

My favorite activity is talking to women older than 60. You just relax any awkwardness first, and then see them spill blood-red beans non-stop. My favorite is a woman who said that prior to meeting her eventual husband, she once hooked up with a submariner. Basically as soon as they met in real life, she nearly laughed in his face, because ... well, submariners are not preselected to be tall.

Seriously, looking around me, remembering my life, I am surprised that ANYONE can spend more than a year living in actual reality and not taking some red pills in at least one of their orifices, willingly or not.

coping_man · 2023-12-26T20:11:04+00:00

my mother has the intelligence of a glue sniffer, the face of an incel and the weight of a dumpster and her personality did not make up for any of these things

my father landed her a better lifestyle than anything she could have built by herself

she never seemed happy about it

NefariousnessMost660 · 2023-12-26T01:39:54+00:00

My foreign immigrated aunt would only date tall, muscular, and attractive white dudes (The one she's dating is 6'4). Aka Chads, because she had the means to do so. She had a good education (top 1%), was fluent at English, and made enough money that she stopped caring.

My own family isn't that red pill though. My mom actually married down and splits housework quite evenly if not more. My dad has told me that woman like her are a one in a million though so my chances of finding someone like her are slim to 0.

macone235 · 2023-12-26T08:17:25+00:00

I've never seen non-RP behavior from any woman. I don't even believe it is naturally occurring.

MotleyCrew1989 · 2023-12-26T01:18:17+00:00

Yes, one of my cousins allways dated for money. She ended marrying a high ranking executive in a multinational compañy.

Almost all my female friends have confirmed the red pill in one way or the other. I look at young women a lot more jaded thanks to them.

Ayaka_Simp_ · 2023-12-26T01:47:26+00:00

My mom is the most red pill, misogynistic, narcissistic, alpha widowed, Stacy, I know. Her entire life is a walking endorsement for the red pill. She told me red pill shit before it even existed. When I look back on the hateful, vile, shit she used to tell me about women, it's a wonder i didn't become a black pill incel. Somehow, I grew up to be the polar opposite of her, a sweet, feminist, nice guy. My mom will say without hesitation that I should beat women I fight with, and women only care about money. The only men she's attracted to are bad boys that cheat and use her. Its honestly comical. Literally everything TRP says about women is applicable to my mom.

The other women in my family all prove TRP is right. But none moreso than my mom.

webernicke · 2023-12-26T02:42:43+00:00

Yup. My grandmother did the whole AF/BB almost like it was scripted.

My bio-grandfather was the good-for-nothing, but smooth and charming fuccboi, that got caught cheating on her because he came home with an STD.

She divorced, becoming a single mother with my father and then eventually met my "grandad" at a party, who she admits she thought he was kinda lame at first. But he was devoted, stable, and hardworking, so she went on to marry him and eventually really came to love the guy, which is why I remain skeptical that letting women freely Chad-chase is the best course of action.

Steakman1 · 2023-12-26T03:20:57+00:00

I never really thought about the women in my family too much when I was red pilled. But although I love my mother and she’s always been very supportive of me, she did cheat on my well established, low 6 fig earning father with a guitarist in a rock band. And my father ended up having to pay aroung $60k in the divorce. My step mother was just an abusive control freak. My aunt has 3 kids from 3 different fathers who were all drug dealers. And my other aunt has 3 kids from two fathers who I believe were also both drug dealers.

With two of my cousins, of the boyfriends of theirs that I have met, they were all tall and fit. But those two cousins are both (I dont really know how to say this without sounding weird) women that have no issues attracting men.

As I said, I never really used women in my family to confirm red pill beliefs. But most of them definitely wouldn’t have been a positive influence against TRP.

LocalTruthDealer · 2023-12-26T09:00:52+00:00

I would rather say that women in my family and close friendships talk bluepill and act very blackpill. They're not after guys/men who have an insane game or high paying jobs or whatever. You'd just better be tall and handsome.

SlowEffective8146 · 2023-12-26T00:50:02+00:00

Absolutely confirm 100%

My female cousins and my own mother - actively choose toxic men when non-toxic men have shown interest

ThrowawayCactus6012 · 2023-12-26T11:39:30+00:00

I think my parents could have been the poster children for the alpha widow/beta bucks dynamic. But I don't think red pill ideas come just from observations of family members. One can observe the behavior of one's classmates, co-workers, acquaintances - or even random strangers on the internet putting their business all over social media.

NotReallyTired_ · 2023-12-26T14:47:19+00:00

I came from a immigrant religious home where my family held on to strict gender and patriarchal roles. That being said my sisters never behaved in a way that confirms the redpill but they definitely abide by traditional gender roles and expectations.

A lot of my exposure to the redpill came from outside my home and the media.

boom-wham-slam · 2023-12-26T10:59:17+00:00

Confirm. All women's behaviors can be explained by the same principles.

Tywinlol · 2023-12-26T00:22:16+00:00

From women in my family absolutely not. But when I look outside my family and culture, I see plenty of examples of terrible female behavior that red pill talks about.

I don't identify with redpill precisely because of this. If women's nature is unchangeable and its AWALT then why are there are still some good women around? Even here in the West? It seems to be nurture not nature. Females have it in them to be good, to be women, but we live in the society where the worst tendencies and instincts of females are excused and even encouraged, and so we get the cesspool we enjoy.

DumbWordsmith · 2023-12-26T01:35:47+00:00

Confirmed.

When my ex and I were traveling through Europe, we stayed at my mother's sister's apartment one night. While I was showering, my 40-something YO aunt, who divorced a professional soccer player after he retired, encouraged my ex to leave me and "have fun" with other men while she was young, because she can always find a guy like me in her 30s.

During the same trip, my narcissistic, super-charismatic (and most likely sociopathic) grandfather on my father's side, who cheated on my grandma well into his 80s, told me to leave my ex and find a young, healthy woman from our home country.

Of course, my ex and I shrugged them off as crazy. In retrospect, we both should've listened.

Other than that, my grandma cucked my grandfather (who was my above-mentioned aunt's non-biological father), and my other aunt lived off of her ex-husband her entire life.

RealMenEatPussy · 2023-12-26T00:51:21+00:00

Women in general proved the red pill to me before I even knew what a red pill was.

CraftyCooler · 2023-12-26T11:53:19+00:00

I'd say that rather disprove. Most of women in family is pretty great, with only 2 exceptions. One of my cousins was dating drug addicts - she is now single mom with 2 kids, going straight from middle class to WT(she lives in US). But it was probably caused by my uncle being alcoholic and wife beater. Second cousin was interested in guys who were treating her like shit, she despised only decent guy who was willing to marry her, and she is now living alone - after 2 divorces(one guy emptied her account and almost convinced her to give him half of her apartment), however - she had lifelong struggle with depression, so she is just not fully sane

Reasonable-Watch857 · 2023-12-26T19:37:02+00:00

Let's see: mom got with my much older father who openly put her in check, and when she knew this, was on him like white on rice in the bedroom. Being an open misogynist got him more access to her and other women. Alongside that, every time she got put in check, she was weirdly happier.

My aunts are clearly treated as the inferior party in their marriages even though they are or were extremely good-looking women. My women cousins who are in relationships are fucking miserable and their boyfriends are all fucking simps who treat them like their shit doesn't stink.

Quiet_Firefighter_65 · 2023-12-27T06:49:59+00:00

Kind of. My father, when I was growing up, was the literal definition of an Alpha as red pillers describe it, tall, handsome, muscular, confident, aggressive and relatively well-off. But tbh, one thing I feel red pillers miss is how this affects the people around you. Sure, everyone feared my father and respected him, but it was fear at the expense of affection. It's why I try to learn from his mistakes and dial down on some things.

_Chaos_And_Horny_ · 2023-12-26T01:43:17+00:00

Mother redpills me its been years. She wants the best for me, although she was not very successful to help me setup for romantic success in my upbringing. She openly says the equivalent for AWALT. Latest thing I remember she taught me, for example, was to flush the used condom down the toilet because there are some women who can use the used condom afterwards to create a rape accusation and fuck the man's life. She openly says how some women, when they want to destroy a man's life, they can do it good.

AceOfSpadesGymBro3 · 2023-12-26T03:14:07+00:00

The only thing I've confirmed with my own family is that that marry weak willed men who can't stand up for themselves and tell them no, end up turning into nightmare bitches.

YetAnotherCommenter · 2023-12-26T06:25:06+00:00

The "women pretending that women-in-general primarily care about personality rather than looks" thing absolutely was something my mother confirmed. In her defense she was likely an outlier woman so SHE might have cared more about personality and intellect than most women do.

But of course she assumed herself normal and projected her psyche onto her notion of "the average."

CryptoThroway8205 · 2023-12-26T01:59:28+00:00

My mom was incompetent, had poor genes, and just all around is miserable to be around. But my dad is incredibly intelligent. Nothing is good enough for my mom and she's worse than what red pill describes.

Within my extended family the women are fierce and probably need to be. For one, I think financial stability was a huge concern. They were encouraged to marry young.

My mother openly says red pill thoughts about how women's divorce rates are too high and how they're just after money and will divorce you so just impregnate them so even after divorce I'll have a kid. It's how she thinks. She's suspicious of everything and retarded.

KayRay1994 · 2023-12-26T01:24:01+00:00

Most women in my family? not really; many of my aunts, cousins, both my grandmothers and others if anything disprove it, even from a relatively traditional lens - though a few (ie. my mother, and a few other relatives), yes, then again, my mom is quite the unstable women and i wouldn’t be shocked if the few who do ‘prove the redpill’ are too.

Same goes with women outside of my family - some have proven it, while many others haven’t… its almost as if individuals are different

social_mule · 2023-12-26T01:42:29+00:00

Confirmed some of it. The older men in my family told boys to get an education so we wouldn't have to do back breaking manual labor like they did. The older women in my family told girls to get an education so they wouldn't have to depend on a man.

I guess the universal pro-education stance was a good thing but the subtle misandry was there.

calfshrug · 2023-12-26T03:30:55+00:00

My mom dropped a high school boyfriend who was very attached to her, left him behind with no hesitation, it seems;

But my mom is also an extremely high achiever and didn’t flaunt or explore her sexuality. She is super conservative

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Title	Did the behaviour from women in your family confirm or disprove the red pill?
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Date	December 25, 2023 8:52 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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