Ok so even though it doesnât really matter exactly what you say on a cold approach (it's mostly just if she's physically attracted to you, your overall vibe and confidence, and if she's available), I realize that some guys might want just a basic starter conversation so they at least have some type of structure to latch onto when they are starting out. So here it is. Iâll write out the stack and then break it down afterwards.
Approach
"Excuse me/Hey excuse me"
Wait For her to acknowledge you
"You're really cute/sorry but you are really cute/hey this is super random but you are ridiculously cute/some variation of those", doesn't matter too much
She will respond, usually with some version of thank you. Sometimes she will be awkward or ignore you or will get some other bad reaction. This is unavoidable. Expect a disproportionately bad reaction about 5% of the time (girl ignores you, is slightly rude, etc, it's pretty much never that big a deal)
I usually say "no problem" when they say thank you
Ask what sheâs up to/what sheâs up to that day/or if you want, comment on something sheâs doing right now. It doesnât matter.
She will respond.
Say something or respond to what she says. It can be as simple as saying âniceâ.
Have 3-5 questions/statements ready to talk about. Just general get to know you questions.
Ask what she has going on that week. I usually say âwhat do you have going on this week? we should grab a drink.â
She will respond with her availability, or she will reject you if she doesnât want to meet
Say âcool, well lets grab a drink this weekend/one of these days after work (just something within the bounds of her availability)
Sheâll say some variation of âyeah that sounds goodâ or if she hasnât rejected you yet, she will reject you
Say âcool, let me get your number real quickâ
Get number
Say âok well I gotta keep shopping/I gotta get back to my friends/I gotta perform open heart surgery/whatever, but Iâll text you and weâll set something up/weâll figure it out/whateverâ
Sheâll respond with whatever
Say âalright cool, see you later/talk to you laterâ
This is the general format I use for probably 90%+ of my approaches. Thereâs no crazy lines. Thereâs no quippy jokes I put in there. I donât specifically say things to make her invest or build comfort/rapport (thatâs already mostly handled by just having a short/normal conversation so she can see youâre at least normal enough to have a conversation). All that other PUA stuff youâve been reading has been mostly useless.Â
The purpose of an approach is to see if sheâs available and interested in you (YOU, not your lines), and to build INTEREST for the date. The DATE is where you can build some rapport/comfort. She just needs to be interested enough from the approach to go on a date with you. Thatâs it. And actually, a lot of times, stretching the initial interaction too long can actually be a detriment. You get into too friendly territory and it becomes apparent that you are just talking about random stuff to keep the convo going just for the sake of keeping it going. Women will pick up on this. They are not stupid. They know you are talking to them because you are sexually interested in them. If they sense you are purposely extending the conversation, it might not KILL the interaction, but it will count against you. Itâs not a good precedent to set that you are indirect and lack the confidence to just make things happen.
Building rapport, having long conversations or thinking thereâs a magic threshold of time you need to hit, thinking you have to hit all these different stages and phases and shit, is complete nonsense. I have known several guys who implement these tactics and the same things happen to them that happen to me when I go direct and have short conversations (generally between 1-3 minutes, and 3 minutes is actually a little long for me). They still get ghosted the same amount. They still have âzomg amazing conversations and crazy connectionâ and the girl doesnât respond. They get rejected the same amount and they get dates at roughly the same rate. Basically, they get almost identical (or worse) results than me but are investing way more time and mental emotional energy into the process.
I absolutely promise you, the only things that matter on an approach are if sheâs attracted to you, she likes your overall vibe (which will be communicated no matter what you say because itâs about HOW you say and do things), and if sheâs available. If all those things are true, thereâs a decent chance sheâll go on a date with you. Assuming you arenât doing or saying anything thatâs just completely socially retarded or completely out of the realm of ânormalâ social interactions, those are the only things that matter.
Ok so lets break down the approach step by step:
OPEN DIRECTLY! You want to be opening directly pretty much 100% of the time. No it wonât kill the set. No it wonât turn the girl off. No she wonât think youâre vulgar. No she wonât call the police and get you thrown in jail. No you wonât be cancelled. There is no reason to not go direct in pretty much every scenario. Going direct is the best because its the most congruent and confident. You want to fuck her, right? Ok, so why are you asking what type of latte sheâs drinking? Do you really give a fuck about her latte? No, you donât. You want to fuck her.
Even indirect approaches eventually turn into direct approaches because you will eventually have to make a âstatement of intentâ (as PUAâs call it) or âmake it man to womanâ. Youâre going to be complementing her or showing her sexual interest at some point anyway, so why not just do it at the beginning and save yourself (and her) some time.
A lot of people are scared to go direct. It is anxiety-inducing. But they completely ignore the fact that they ALSO feel anxiety when they go indirect. When you go indirect, youâre always thinking about when is the right time to show intent. When should I give my compliment? How do I transition to it in a âsmoothâ way? This produces much more anxiety than just the initial little spike of a direct opener. It also generally makes you come across as less confident and more weird because you are so busy analyzing the convo and trying to find where to insert the direct statement and anticipating her reaction that you canât focus on actually expressing yourself and being in the moment.
Every single guy I have worked with has told me that once they switch to direct openers, it made them feel more at ease and felt like a weight was lifted off his shoulders. I could talk endlessly about this, but trust me, itâs better to go direct.
Ok after you give your opener, she will respond. Usually saying thank you or some variation of that. She might give you a neutral response and sometimes they will give you an overtly negative response. These are unavoidable. No matter what type of approach you do, you will sometimes get negative responses. This is one thing that holds a lot of guys back from going direct. They are actually trying to circumvent these negative responses by being super friendly and indirect so as to not possibly offend the girl. This is the wrong way to go about it. If you are scared of negative reactions from girls, you definitely wonât be able to handle the flakiness, testing, resistance, etc that girls will put up at any given point. Guys who are super indirect on the approach also tend to be (not all the time, but most of the time) indirect in how they do everything else.
If you canât even give her a compliment on the approach, how are you going to go for the kiss/makeout/whatever once sheâs back at your place? How you do one thing is usually how you do most other things. You donât want to get in the habit of being indirect right from the start.
Ok so sheâll say whatever her response is. If itâs not an outright rejection, continue with asking her what sheâs up to. Usually Iâll just say some random thing about what she just said (âIâm shopping for candlesâ, âNice, you getting some pumpkin spice bullshit or what?â). Sheâll respond with whatever and then Iâll usually go into basic small talk. This is where the 3-5 questions/statements come in.
I should point out that the point of these isnât to ACTUALLY get to know her and retain all the information. Itâs for both of you to get a feel for the other person. Mainly for her to know that youâre a cool, normal guy. She needs to know that you are somewhat normal and you come across as confident/cool enough to go on a date with. So the questions donât really matter. Who you are as a person will come through no matter what youâre talking about. But if you need a little starter for what your questions/statements should be, hereâs some ideas.
Are you a student?
You live around here?
What do you do for work?
I just moved here from blah blah blah
Iâm just out shopping for blah blah blah
How do you guys know each other (if sheâs with a friend)
How many dicks have you sucked this year? (JK, but hey try it out, it might work)
Comment on some random thing they are wearing/doing
It literally doesnât matter
And then when they respond, you can choose to go as far down that conversation topic as you want. I would recommend if youâre just starting out to just ask the questions/make the statements and then move onto the next one, even if it feels/sounds weird. Or just do one little response to what she says and move onto the next one. One you are comfortable with that, THEN you can worry about spicing up the convo and being a little more free form.
Ok after the questions, you can just ask what she has going on that week/weekend/the next few days and ask to get a drink/coffee/whatever. If she doesnât drink alcohol/coffee, just ask what she drinks and say you guys will get that. Then just ask for the number. Then say bye in whatever way you feel like (within societal norms. Donât say âit was nice talking to you, now go fuck yourselfâ) and leave.
This is all there is too it. Remember, EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAY DOESNâT MATTER! The point of the interaction is to find out if sheâs available and interested. The point of the conversation is it gives you a chance to express yourself to see if she likes your vibe. A quick point about the girl âliking youâ. Do not pay attention to the perceived interest level of the girl or if sheâs not giving you indicators of interest or if she seems not invested or engaged. Some girls are shy. Some girls are just non-reactive as a baseline of their personality. Some girls are so surprised by whatâs going on that they arenât themselves. The girls perceived interest/engagement level should not be a factor. Iâve had girls who gave me one-word responses pretty much the whole convo, girls who were really quiet, girls who didnât ask me any questions back, girls who were skeptical of what I was doing, etc that still ended up coming out on a date. And then Iâve also had girls who show âhigh interestâ and were all excited and asked me questions and sent a little heart emoji when I sent my first text and all the traditional signs of interest, who went on to ghost.
Do not calibrate your behavior in the moment based on what you think the girl is thinking. Most of the time youâll be wrong. Shit, girls donât even know what theyâre thinking half the time (itâs all jokes, guys, donât cancel me #respectwomyn).
Ok so that about wraps it up. If youâre just starting out, I would recommend sticking as close to this as possible for your first 50-100 approaches. DONâT CHANGE IT! Donât get 10 approaches in and because you got a lot of positive/negative/whatever reactions, decide to go off script. You need to get comfortable enough with this that it becomes second nature. It needs to be burned into your brain so that you could do it in your sleep. You need BARE MINIMUM 50 approaches so that you can get a decent variety of reactions/situations with it. Just stick to the script. No matter what happens, just stick to the script, even if in the moment it seems a little weird/uncalibrated. You need to get used to having a plan/outcome in mind and sticking to it. That will develop your frame, something I'm not going to cover here. If you canât stick to this regardless of how the interaction goes, how will you stick with your plan when other bumps happen along the way, whether itâs during texting, on a date, or when sheâs back at your place? STICK WITH THE SCRIPT! I swear to God if you deviate I will personally come there and rip your dick off with my bare hands no homo (maybe slight homo).
Ok thatâs it. Go out and do it
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