Why have they even mentioned a man.

zulu127 · 2016-01-05T23:33:22+00:00

They could just as easily say,

miner: a person, typically a man, who works in a mine.

but that doesn't happen.

chavelah · 2016-01-06T02:10:51+00:00

When I was young, the dictionary definition was more like "a man who forces himself upon a woman." Unbelievably, this is progress.

sigh_riss · 2016-01-06T06:52:56+00:00

Infanticide: the act of murdering an infant, usually committed by the mother.

SirSkeptic · 2016-01-06T00:21:09+00:00

Wow! The feminist backlash against this will be enormous. There'll be rallys, protests hashtag campaigns. Feminists hate gendered language and have pushed for lots of legislation and publishing guidelines to prevent it.

crickets: ~ chirp chirp ~ ~ chirp chirp ~

aRVAthrowaway · 2016-01-06T06:21:14+00:00

Just an FYI, this isn't necessarily Apple's fault. They pull they Dictionary data from the New Oxford American Dictionary.

Edit: you can contact Oxford Dictionaries here to request they change the definition here.

Edit 2: We did it...sort of!

Edit 3: Apparently not. When browsing in private mode, the definition returns. Odd.

Volatileprojects · 2016-01-06T04:02:12+00:00

TIL Siri has a Tumblr

Jaeryth · 2016-01-06T03:50:53+00:00

Duh, women can't rape men. How would he get hard? Obviously men control their dong erectness with the Force and wouldn't get a hardon unless he WANTED it. /s

sianfrogman · 2016-01-06T05:10:02+00:00

Would just like to point out that the UK legal definition of rape is penetration by the penis. So that's why.

Edit: spacing

MustacheBus · 2016-01-06T03:25:34+00:00

What the actual... That is so messed up.

38B0DE · 2016-01-06T13:07:26+00:00

I thought it was an English thing because it sounds so drastically ridiculous.

Here's the definition of rape (vergewaltigen, verb) in my German dictionary. "To use violence to force intercourse"

BUT in German when you make a noun out of a verb it can be Maskulinum (masculine) or Femininum (feminine) when it refers to a person. For example to dance is "tanzen" and so a male dancer is "Tänzer" while a female dancer is "Tänzerin". You can see the German language in comparison with English is extremely sexist (/s). They recently had the words in the traffic regulation laws "gender neutralized" because the standard plural forms are traditionally since the inception of the language Maskulinum. So when Germans want to say drivers they say Fahrzeugführer and not Fahrzeugführerinnen. The plural involves everyone male or female but because it the same as the Maskulinum it's supposed to be "non-inclusive". Literally 99,99% of the people don't have a problem with it, or even notice it at all. But obviously when women hear it it subconsciously indoctrinates patriarchy in their brains so they become slaves to men. But I digress.

However there is not a Femininum noun out of the verb rape (Vergewaltiger) in German. It only has a Maskulinum form. "A male person who rapes someone". So the existence of the word for female rapist is not officially recognized.

If anyone is interested it's the "Wahrig Deutsches Wörterbuch" 8th edition from 2006. The dictionary does not omit Femininums of all nouns that have them and has them all additionally wirten down.

blueoak9 · 2016-01-05T23:14:27+00:00

Why? Because they are trying to cover for all the women who rape. They are trying to say women who rape are a tiny percentage of rapists to deflect attention away from them. They are trying to smear men as a category as rapists as a way to get more support for their carceral agenda. They have lots of reasons.

Supportive_Guy · 2016-01-06T06:02:44+00:00

Charge your phone bud

syzmcs · 2016-01-06T16:14:45+00:00

Interesting fact...In the UK, the offence of rape requires the offender to have a penis.

S1 Sexual Offences Act 2003

Rape

(1) A person (A) commits an offence if—

(a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis,

Also you can't be raped in the ear.

2_ofSpades · 2016-01-06T04:48:28+00:00

I recently saw a commercial that said, "Violence Against Women Is Wrong."

Really bugged me.

BAM_BAM_BAM · 2016-01-06T05:25:39+00:00

lead·er ˈlēdər noun 1. the person (typically a man) who leads or commands a group, organization, or country.

... if it's ok to say negative things "statistically" about men then it's ok to say positive things, too, right?

KingGoogley · 2016-01-06T07:28:23+00:00

Siri don't watch law & order svu, if she did the latest episode would slap that thing in the face. Teacher trades grades for dick, one wanted to do it, the other she forced herself onto him and had to do it or his bad grades would get him kicked off the wrestling team. She also got off leaving 4 other schools because rumors spread she was sleeping with students. She even met 'her husband' on her first year of teaching when he was a senior.

I know svu always indulges itself in the details of sex crimes, but it was nice to see it the other way around.

salacio · 2016-01-06T04:11:34+00:00

I honestly can't think of a good scenario where a definition should include the word typically. Shouldn't definitions be timeless and anything referred to as typically could change at some point in the future.

MagicalPowerfulEvil · 2016-01-06T17:34:45+00:00

Crack Dealer: a person, typically black, who deals crack.

Holy shit, a little switch-a-roo and I feel dirty for typing that.

secv808 · 2016-01-06T01:21:21+00:00

No advice animals or other low-effort image or text posts. Mods may remove these at their discretion.

Who is they?

Noodle36 · 2016-01-06T12:49:49+00:00

Infanticide: the crime of murdering an infant, typically committed by a woman.

DillyG101 · 2016-01-06T02:28:58+00:00

Man this subs quality went downhill FAST. What used to be a breath of fresh air is now just shit posts like this and people showing us how well they argued with a feminist on facebook. No wonder no one takes MRA seriously, you guys are as nitpicky and easily offended as the SJW's you complain about all day.

fridanordh · 2016-01-06T11:34:00+00:00

Do you remember when a women held a robber hostage and used him as a sexslave for 3 days? And everyone was "hell yeah! She got him good highfive he got what he deserved!!" Imagine it in reverse. Man holds women as a sexslave for 3 days? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013870/Robber-broke-hair-salon-beaten-black-belt-owner-kept-sex-slave-days-fed-Viagra.html /woman

pseudosocialist · 2016-01-06T12:27:04+00:00

uhh because statistically it is?

spondgbob · 2016-01-06T08:21:23+00:00

Well as she explained in my sociology class, "it's stated that way because it's true, but the need for mentioning it is peculiar". (Spoken by a white cis male scum)

NetRickyAZ7688 · 2016-01-06T06:19:43+00:00

This is how it is on Oxford website. I actually don't like this...usually I am just kind of meh but this is annoying!

Pezto · 2016-01-06T07:07:37+00:00

It's not Apple. They use Oxford Dictionaries.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/rapist

falsfield · 2016-01-06T12:38:20+00:00

falsfield · 2016-01-06T12:38:40+00:00

matthewhale · 2016-01-06T16:00:08+00:00

Reference to when it happened in 2014

NewAeon · 2016-01-06T18:14:35+00:00

Holy circle jerk batperson!

fightlikeacunt · 2016-01-06T23:22:01+00:00

Because men have important jobs and don't write dictionaries.

Allblacksworldchamps · 2016-01-07T01:39:02+00:00

A clarrification for my other posts.

I held the position that the legal definition of rape could not include a woman unless via fingers or objects, thus this skewed the stats.

I have since found out that the FBI intends to prosecute "made to penetrate" as rape, since it involves penetration. I have also heard that there is a woman in Norway convicted of the crime of rape - oral sex on a sleeping man. https://tamenwrote.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/fbi-clarifies-definition-of-rape https://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3px7uy/made_to_penetrate_included_in_fbi_uniform_crime

So It appears that made to penetrate and other assults are classified wildly differently depending on the jurisdiction, and stats from one country to another may not be comparable in the way that rape of a female are.

However the CDC has not followed the FBI clarrification, and so does not count a male as raped except when penetrated by genitals/fingers/objects. Most other researchers use local definitions.

nabbable · 2016-01-18T05:09:42+00:00

The cambridge dictionary definition is much worse:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/rapist

Although it does draw a distinction between the definition in American vs British English.

Mocha2007 · 2016-01-06T01:37:40+00:00

More importantly, you really need to charge your phone!

55McCoy · 2016-01-06T11:53:56+00:00

Apple just said fuck gender equality. This is how far PC has come people.

ThisMachineKILLS · 2016-01-06T03:08:50+00:00

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Not_my_foreskin · 2016-01-06T14:52:16+00:00

I heard that a lot of the programmers that work at Apple are feminists. I wouldn't put it past them to put this in there intentionally. I don't care that men statistically commit more rape than women. Saying that would be like saying that because blacks are arrested for more crimes than whites that it means blacks are more violent and reddit is too damn liberal to have an opinion like that. Women rape, too.

ulpisen · 2016-01-06T15:43:26+00:00

"thief: a person, typically an immigrant, who commits theft" is this really how we should be doing definitions?

sagashiteiru · 2016-01-06T17:40:38+00:00

Anyone know the stats/sources off the top of their head? I get so many conflicting stats on this one.

I would say that to use "typically men" appropriately, it should be 90% or more of men being rapists. Yay, ney?

FeminismRules9 · 2016-01-06T23:50:28+00:00

Because it's always you cis white privileged men who rape women and oppress them

Specter242 · 2016-01-06T03:01:54+00:00

Guys please tell me this is not real and just photoshopped

colucci · 2016-01-06T04:32:41+00:00

Let's be real here though, statistically most rapists are men.

Lhtfoot · 2016-01-06T12:16:47+00:00

My phone says the same thing... This is fucked up.

not_shadowbanned_yet · 2016-01-06T16:55:53+00:00

Hopefully the new editions will contain further adjectives, like "african" and "muslim".

DIARRHEARAMA · 2016-01-06T13:38:13+00:00

because it's kind of true? i mean, i know sexual violence against men (especially by women) is under-reported and that is definitely an issue, but let's not delude ourselves into thinking that the vast majority of rapists aren't men.

atred · 2016-01-06T02:33:28+00:00

Is it not accurate?

47853lll · 2016-01-06T03:10:04+00:00

Probably because it's statistically true? It doesn't make it ok but seriously dude?

banananuttt · 2016-01-06T07:20:23+00:00

duuuude... this is a little far man. Sounds like you're going out of the way to let things bother you. honestly if men generally rape more, that's not an untrue statement. get over it.

Allblacksworldchamps · 2016-01-06T01:20:13+00:00

Technically they are correct though, BY DEFINITION. Rapists are usually men, apart from that woman in the UK who was pretending to be a man and used prothetics, the charge of rape requires one party to penetrate the other. Even with children where women admit sexual intercourse it is still a sexual assualt rather than rape.

This simply highlights the problem that MRA's have with the law/Dr Koss definition.

Edit: ie this is why the MRM wants the definition to change - as do I.

yakayasub · 2016-01-06T08:27:24+00:00

Godamn that is fucked

eatredmeat · 2016-01-06T02:40:02+00:00

Because "typically" men rape women? (Rather than say; "a women rapes a man"

conspirized · 2016-01-06T05:03:17+00:00

So when do we stop just posting this shit on Reddit and bitching about it and start taking action? Who is the provider for this dictionary program? If they refuse to fix the definition at what point can we file a lawsuit for sexism?

agdzietam · 2016-01-06T14:09:12+00:00

It's a dictionary. It says how words are used not how they are supposed to be used or how we would like them to be used. And the fact is that for the majority of the population the definition of the word rapist includes the "most likely man" component.

whydidimakeausername · 2016-01-06T12:45:21+00:00

ITT Bunched panties

KaonPlus · 2016-01-06T03:24:35+00:00

Siri is hardly a paragon of virtue.

http://phoebeholmes.com/2013/11/21/your-dictionary-is-crap/

Heisencock · 2016-01-06T15:31:42+00:00

You guys sure do get mad over stupid shit.

MrBogard · 2016-01-06T16:06:17+00:00

hahaha... /r/mensrights/

yuckyuck13 · 2016-01-06T02:54:52+00:00

Typically is better than always

Title	Why have they even mentioned a man.
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Comments	277
Date	January 5, 2016 11:07 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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