There is nothing wrong with a promiscuous guy wanting to settle with a virgin.

friendly_deviant · 2022-09-14T14:03:51+00:00

There's nothing wrong with promiscuous men wanting virgins or low n count women. Even if it was wrong, there would be no way to force a man to want something he doesn't.

That said, your preferences and behavior are up for criticism as much as women's. Women who don't like promiscuous men or find double standards appalling won't date you and can't be forced to prefer you. The excuses you have for your own behavior and preferences are irrelevant to someone who finds them unattractive.

And for the record, there have been promiscuous men who talk badly of promiscuous women trying to date me or commit to me, I rejected them and made sure they knew why.

CanYouTieThemInABow · 2022-09-14T14:33:21+00:00

Promiscuity in men is also strongly associated with men later cheating. Why should she settle for a manwhore?

Restricted sociosexuality is associated with both waiting to have sex and valuing the chastity of your partner. Some men here are really in denial about that. Low n women want low n men.

If you want a virgin, you have to be worth her virginity. If she's stayed a virgin, she assigns some value to it. Part of that value is she has to plausibly believe that you'll be the one and only, and won't decide to cast her off in twenty years.

LadyofTheGreyPath · 2022-09-14T15:19:51+00:00

You should read up on rooshes blog.

He decided to become Christian and is now having serious regrets about being a PUA. By his own omision, good low n/virginal women do not want to be with a man who is A) past the wall and B) a man whore.

So now he's perpetually lonely and has no chance of having children on his own.

Turns out, women with those values want men with the same values.

CruelAngelGradThesis · 2022-09-14T15:14:17+00:00

As a religious virgin also dating a virgin I have yet to encounter these mythical PPD virgin women who want to settle down with more experienced partners. I think that men are confusing virgin women looking for a starter fuck for virgin women looking to settle down. Tbf the former are far more common than the latter so I can imagine why.

Sophiatab · 2022-09-14T14:21:39+00:00

Speaking as a former virgin who spent 10 non-fucking years trying desperately to find a virgin guy to marry, you are so wrong in so many ways. Virgin woman are not easier to control. The fact that we remained virgins in a culture saturated with sex in which sex is a standard part of mainstream dating, should indicate how stubborn and unwilling to conform on our standards, we can be. There is no such thing as pair-bonding. We are not easy to control and marriages between virgin women and promiscuous men are fraught with problems. My late husband and I loved each other dearly, but we fought a lot. Almost always his past was the problem. The reason the marriage lasted was he was willing to adhere to me controlling his behavior a lot.

Notanothrshitthrow · 2022-09-14T15:17:57+00:00

It's fine, just don't throw a bitch fit when your unicorn ideal doesn't come to fruition.

SoIlikeMangos · 2022-09-14T15:25:31+00:00

Nah I don't want a promiscuous guy. Those are contradicting values.

Steakman1 · 2022-09-14T14:16:29+00:00

Typically women who choose to remain virgins until marriage do it out of religious values. Typically people with strong religious values want to find a partner who shares those same religious values. And simply believing in god won’t cut it.

Looking for virgins who aren’t choosing it based on religious values basically limits you to women fresh out of high school and/or super rural areas where there isn’t a whole lot of people, let alone women, to begin with.

If we’re operating under the assumption that shared values aren’t important to the success of a relationship, then that is assumption based on short sightedness and lack of experience.

dogmeat116 · 2022-09-14T15:35:49+00:00

While the promiscuous woman is preferred for casual sex due to her experience and easiness to get in bed, the same is not true about marriage. When a man is looking for a wife, his prioritize change - he will select for attributes that make for a good wife - the opposite of the promiscuous woman

Yet when a woman thinks like this, RP guys here all cry about AF/BB...

Stunning-Potato-1984 · 2022-09-14T14:24:01+00:00

It's just a little too Madonna whore complex for me.

Resurrected_Alliyou · 2022-09-14T15:48:01+00:00

A virgin female adult is probably religious and will not marry your promiscuous ass

houstongradengineer · 2022-09-14T13:33:27+00:00

I wasn't able to date a promiscuous man lol.

Because I actually have values. I needed my love to care, on some level, about pleasing someone who means something to him rather than random women. That goes for me, too. I see it works both ways. Either priorities can change, or they can't.

What part don't men understand?

SeveralSadEvenings · 2022-09-14T14:54:01+00:00

Yes, she is easier to control which is a plus

There it is, thank you for confirming what its always been about.

TermAggravating8043 · 2022-09-14T13:42:04+00:00

There’s nothing actually wrong with it,

However why would a virgin women (presumably saving herself for marriage) want to go near a guy that sticks his dick in as many holes as he can find? Eww

EulenWatcher · 2022-09-14T14:15:34+00:00

It depends on his reasoning. If it's about morals or values considering premarital sex/casual sex and he believes that they're harmful to people, then he's a hypocrite for not sticking to his own morals and it does show his lack of character overall.

Noodles_R · 2022-09-14T14:34:45+00:00

Want what you want, you just might not get it.

A low-n woman, probably. There’s loads of them and some won’t care about sexual history.

But a virgin woman is different to a low-n woman - likely she’s a virgin for a reason that won’t align with a promiscuous man’s behaviour, like religion or saving herself for marriage.

baresquad · 2022-09-14T13:43:31+00:00

So have your cake and eat it too? Just admit that instead of making excuses because this is all based in generalizations.

You can’t say virgin women don’t want virgin men when there’s an abundance of virgin women on this sub who make it clear that they’ll never give promiscuous men a chance. This is all dependent on whether virgin women are able to accept a promiscuous man’s past and that’s just highly unlikely to happen.

no_usernameeeeeee · 2022-09-14T13:58:16+00:00

the things is, virgin women are virgin because they have a certain set of values & standards for a partner - a promiscuous man most likely doesn’t have those values or else he wouldn’t be promiscuous. It’s just not appealing to virgin women.

Also, i don’t think people have a problem with a man wanting a virgin specifically, but the hypocrisy behind why they want a virgin woman. It’s not because they hold themselves to a certain standard or have values (as i stated). It’s usually rooted in misogyny & wanting their cake and eating it too. From my experience, such men are also more prone to cheating, just like the promiscuous woman… So not for me.

risdeveau · 2022-09-14T14:17:34+00:00

It’s sexist and hypocritical, which are usually considered wrong

2022-09-14T14:26:30+00:00

I think it is a massive red flag, but it is not immoral.

TrizzyG · 2022-09-14T15:34:34+00:00

Nothing wrong in principle about wanting certain things, but good luck finding someone in this case lol

I'm all for diversity of choice in partners but don't come crying if you've got 100 bodies to your name and the virgin you like isn't interested.

PronKing10 · 2022-09-14T14:08:50+00:00

For starters, easier to control is creepy af. You shouldn't "control" your partner. Right there is why people say there's something wrong with this mindset. Its a power thing.

DullFigure5639 · 2022-09-14T16:57:35+00:00

I don’t think it’s an issue but the way you view it is problematic, being able to control a human being is not a “plus”. Just because you think it’s normal for men to be territorial and possessive doesn’t mean it’s right or moral. I don’t know why you’d want to rationalise these ideas rather than having a partner you respect and see as equal. Humans are sexual beings, women have needs and have sex. It doesn’t change anything about them inherently.

strawberries_cow · 2022-09-14T15:24:17+00:00

Madona-whore complex be like:

CommieRedEyes · 2022-09-14T15:44:58+00:00

Lmfao double standard much?

figuringMylife · 2022-09-14T15:59:17+00:00

I completely agree with your feelings on the surface, however promiscuous men ruin virgin women and also have trouble pair bonding and create problem-some marriages. Studies show they make their marriages miserable.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2022-09-14T14:40:12+00:00

The more sex I had the more I realized the last thing i wanted was a partner who had no idea what she was doing, but that’s just me.

_revelationary · 2022-09-14T16:27:38+00:00

I had a low n count and was searching for a similarly low n count man to marry 🤷🏼‍♀️

ruboyuri · 2022-09-14T14:47:41+00:00

Hypocrisy on the basis of human differences is considered dehumanizing and wrong

AstronautLoveShack · 2022-09-14T14:57:30+00:00

He can try, of course, but I suspect their values wouldn't be very much aligned and the marriage may reflect that. He may get bored of just one woman and cheat, she may not actually care for sex and dead bedroom him. But it's not like anyone's trying to make a law against it, so whatever.

januaryphilosopher · 2022-09-14T16:38:42+00:00

It isn't morally wrong to want, but it is wrong in the sense that it's likely to work out poorly. If one partner is promiscuous, chances of problems increase. If only one partner is promiscuous, it's even worse.

Cult_of_Chad · 2022-09-14T15:09:25+00:00

I find this constant talk about n-counts hilarious---het men that often can't get a single vaguely female human being to swing on their dicks dreaming of alphadom.

I've had sex with hundreds of guys while I my husband's count is still below triple digits. I feel like I've gotten my money's worth when it comes to sex so I haven't stepped out in years. I still don't begrudge him the rare instances where he manages to get a blowjob from a drunken chick while traveling for work.

It's never been an issue because neither one of us was ever truly deprived. Mate-guarding behavior is a sign of a power or SMV imbalance; humans that live a life of healthy sexual abundance typically exhibit much less of it.

urbangoth · 2022-09-14T15:30:25+00:00

No one cares who you date unless it directly gets in the way of what they want. Do you. Who cares.

KayRay1994 · 2022-09-14T16:14:54+00:00

There is nothing wrong with it (even though i don’t really get it) - the issue comes in when a man thinks he’s entitled for a virgin and gets mad that girls aren’t acting how he wants them to

Tiffany__pollard · 2022-09-14T14:31:38+00:00

you care about women's holes women care about your money

Regular-Loser-569 · 2022-09-14T13:59:20+00:00

Disagree with the arguments agree with the conclusion

alphasupremacy5555 · 2022-09-14T15:57:32+00:00

I agree with this 100%, it's just big facts and a complete depiction of reality. The vast majority of sexually attractive and gorgeous women do not want male virgins. They're not attracted to male virgins at all. I'm a male virgin at 28 years old and I have absolutely no successful women. I just have really and seriously working myself a whole lot and make myself as extremely sexually attractive and desirable to the women I find sexually desirable attractive as possible. The reality is that women are extremely hypergamus and preselected by nature. They only want men who other women want especially men who are chosen by sexually attractive and gorgeous women. They only men who are used to getting success with women and getting sex with gorgeous women. Basically promiscuous men are high value in the eyes of tons of women. Men are supposed to sleep around and have sex with as many women as possible so that they can marry for love and not and not just sex. Do a whole lot of fucking with a whole lot of women so that when you settle down you're not just fucking you're making love. That will help a man have a successful marriage because he won't lusting after other women he's already had sex with gorgeous women and now he's committed to one. The reality is that men and women are extremely different and masculinity and femininity are polar opposites. Any self-respecting man only wants sexually promiscuous hoes for sexual friendships and sexual friendships only. Virgin girls are far more suitable and just the best for marriage they haven't been tainted and contaminated by having sex with a lot of men. They're more willing to be a helpmate and please their man in ways that are not just sexual. In many virgin girls are far more valuable and worthwhile than women with serious body counts. Bottom line men want sluts for sex only and for marriage girls who is close to being virginal as possible.

Dependapotamus209 · 2022-09-14T14:57:24+00:00

I’ve had sex with tons of chicks and ended up with a virgin 😊 she values experience. We are not the same

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gyxkid · 2022-09-14T13:43:14+00:00

Common knowledge

stoic4343 · 2022-09-14T15:16:18+00:00

That's not necessarily true. There are guys that have been with 2-3 quality girls a year. You can be talking about a guy that can get girls that doesn't like sleeping around with random girls. Serial monogamists

stoic4343 · 2022-09-14T15:17:21+00:00

I think women actually prefer this kind of guy. I don't think they want what we used to call "dirty dick" guys that much.

Valuable-Marzipan761 · 2022-09-14T15:31:37+00:00

Or vice versa. Or a fat person wanting a skinny partner or a rich person wanting a poor one. We can have any standards.

cmvmania · 2022-09-14T16:34:52+00:00

When a man is looking for a wife, his priorities change - he will select for attributes that make for a good wife - the opposite of the promiscuous woman.

Not quite. women will select attributes (or genes, can we say) that will make for the best looking child. height, face, etc.

who needs men when single mothers can survive on foodstamps and a job. all this is simply due to the assumption that life will treat good looking people better and bet on it. Halo effect.

and if the handsome kid got successful in the end, all credit goes to the mom. sounds a bit too extreme but just enough in a nutshell.

FineDevelopment00 · 2022-09-14T23:24:54+00:00

women do not value male virginity the same way men value female virginity

No woman goes out of their way to select for virgin men.

False. Virginal women who truly value chastity will hope for men on their level or as close to it as is feasible in this hookup-culture dumpsterfire of a world. The reason they won't date incels has nothing to do with virginity. Not all male virgins are incels.

being a virgin male usually means inexperience

Inexperience isn't inherently a bad thing. It especially isn't a bad thing in this case.

The promiscuous guy has many experiences with women and, in turn, will have an easier time wooing a virgin to marry.

Lol yeah "many experiences" with other women, which more often than not result in baggage. And his "wooing" is PUA sht but tailored to be more palatable (at least on the surface) to the virgin. What turnoffs!

He got what he wanted from hookups with promiscuous women.

When a man is looking for a wife, his prioritize change - he will select for attributes that make for a good wife - the opposite of the promiscuous woman.

the shy, innocent girl is what is desirable for marriage. Yes, she is easier to control which is a plus.

Sooo, it's the MWC a.k.a. the male version of AF/BB. Which is what I've been saying all along. Also, not all virgins are naive enough to fall for some community-D's tricks. I also find it interesting how you employed the terms "woman" and "girl", denoting (whether intentionally or not) that those creeps usually go for an age gap too. They're hypocritical manipulators who do not make good husbands, especially for someone so far out of their league in sexual ethics and experience.

most guys find it undesirable, oftentimes a complete turnoff, to imagine their girl getting banged by another guy

There exist self-respecting women who feel this way about their dudes getting banged by other chicks, too!

Title	There is nothing wrong with a promiscuous guy wanting to settle with a virgin.
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Date	September 14, 2022 1:20 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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