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Competitive-Cuddling · 2022-06-25T11:59:58+00:00

You still need to have game in order to get the girl you want. I know a real life Ken doll that can’t talk to women to save his life. Meanwhile, my average looking, well put together friend is quite the bachelor with quality women.

Don’t fall into the black pill narratives. While I do think there is SOME truth to that ideology, you should stop, and look what’s going on in real life. When I go out in public, I see a ton of average guys with girlfriends. A lot of the time, they’re punching WELL above their weight too. I used this as motivation when it came to approaching women. It’s worked wonders.

Don’t be bitter, and work on yourself. Life is too short to be a doomer.

Iistendipshit · 2022-06-25T11:42:05+00:00

Is this an excuse for you to not have game?

AnimeSeeker85 · 2022-06-25T10:44:04+00:00

How is this different from men wanting attractive, feminine women?

BostonWeedParty · 2022-06-25T12:23:30+00:00

In my 32 years of experience I find this to be completely false. I get complimented a lot, all the time. Yet I will get shot down by those same girls who were just flirting with me, cause I usually do something awkward. On the flip side , I've seen some ugly dudes with some gorgeous women. Social skills and game are way more important.

Weekly_Yesterday_556 · 2022-06-25T10:59:53+00:00

I am a girl and I assure, people always say that women do not like quiet and kind men, but the truth is that this man is not handsome. If he was handsome and shy quiet and cute , they would have loved him very much. Around me girls don't care about personality, they will like your personality no matter what as long as you are handsome

Sirjon8 · 2022-06-25T14:49:10+00:00

As a guy who's been considered good looking in the past, I very strongly disagree. Good looks give you an advantage, but it's not all you need.

You still have to read subtle indicators of interest from women + know how to react. I was terrible due to a disability that makes it extra hard to read people.

You still have to be able to read when someone wants you to approach VS leave them alone.

You still need to manage your body language. Like if you're feeling sad due to loneliness, you cant let that show in your body language or you can look unapproachable. And it can affect how you're received if you make an approach.

I've had women reject me because I was hitting on them without realizing they werent interested.

VeliVoy · 2022-06-25T10:41:54+00:00

I'd like to know what y'all think or how your experience been like

Iamnotthatguypall · 2022-06-25T14:28:14+00:00

So then why do i see attractive men being shot down when approaching women? Looks are not everything

ProductivityMonster · 2022-06-25T12:07:39+00:00

You can be very handsome and average in every other way you’ll do well enough. You can be very tall and average in every other way, you’ll do well. You can be jacked. Or “financially secure”. Or have a ton of game and dress stylishly. You can own a house and a newer full sized pickup, you’ll do well. You can be average everywhere but fit the social niche she wants (country guy with a lifted pickup for example)

You do not need to score exceptionally well in every area. You only need one. That’s a lot of ways to get into the top 10%.

After that yeah, they’ll see everything you do as a positive if a girl gets hooked. That’s just her trying not to admit to herself what she really likes about you.

surfershane25 · 2022-06-25T14:32:59+00:00

I had a co worker that was also a model, he looked like hot Jesus. He said it was very hard to date because he always felt like women were with him for his looks and not his personality. It’s the “curse of the beautiful woman” where you can never truly see who she is but in reverse.

Worried-Principle580 · 2022-06-25T12:24:48+00:00

It’s the same with the whole ‘creepy’ thing. A man is only ever considered creepy if he’s unattractive.

cato_iii · 2022-06-25T13:56:35+00:00

Definitely not true. My friend is very attractive to girls and never pulls because he doesn’t know how to talk to them

Contango6969 · 2022-06-25T11:02:40+00:00

Free will doesn’t exist. You make decisions before you consciously even consider the options. Moreover every part of your brain works according to cause and effect principles there is no scientific explanation for a soul or anything. You’re just an organic robot.

Just you know, thought I would drop that while we are talking about things that don’t fucking matter

WalidfromMorocco · 2022-06-25T14:04:43+00:00

if you say that's incorrect then I'd believe you are being ignorant.

Nice discussion lmao.

Pain_Tough · 2022-06-25T15:15:27+00:00

I never had much game. I’ve done fine. My professor wrote a book on attraction. Initial attraction comes down to physical attractiveness and proximity. Look good and be around them. Ultimately, women do the selecting.

Abhi005 · 2022-06-25T15:22:50+00:00

I think game is mandatory . But, being good looking makes things easier. Good looking makes us look less weird . And the most important one is confidence. You should maintain confidence and be shyless alongside good looks . I thought girls liked guys who are shy . It was one of the dumbest mistake in my life. I acted like a shy nerd and my whole outer personality and body language changed as shy. But inside I was still confident. And now I have realised and changed to who I really am. Don't make this mistake redditors .

Good looking is not only the natural beauty. We can be more good looking if we exercise and develop a good body. And can groom the hair or beard to be attractive. Women have many cosmetics and dresses to to look more beautiful.

Riuqlav · 2022-06-25T11:44:09+00:00

You sound bitter dude, yes genes are a big factor on reproduction.

But is not that easy, you should work on your game and goals regardless, girls won't throw at you daily if you don't put yourself out there properly, even physical stributes degrade if you don't work on them.

I am above average looking, and I was shy/clueless when younger, I had girls approach me for their friends,(I still manage to fuck it up sometimes), but nothing compared to today that I am more confident and I can understand better how flirting works.

You can be a hunk in your early 20s, but if you stay at home looking at boobs on tiktok, playing games all day, and get clingy with every girl you interact, you won't be able to compete with the average-looking dude trying to work on his inner game and is comfortable around women.

fried_potato9 · 2022-06-25T13:52:10+00:00

It's just the way life is, a good-looking person always gets better treatment. Not only in relationships.

Beginning-Space-8010 · 2022-06-25T13:48:46+00:00

As a 31 y/o, life has taught me this is nonsense. I have a friend who is horseshoe bald, wears a hat all the time, doesn't workout regularly (sort of skinny fat), isn't very tall, and consistently has LTRs with very hot women.

Now to describe my friend beyond looks, he does well financially, has good style, an active social life, and travels regularly. He is also a nice and caring person.

I have "Chad" friends who do not do as well as this guy. They sleep with more women, but they are lower quality and don't stick around.

I have other instances of stories just like this.

I would say if you feel this way about yourself, try before joining the priesthood.

Try.

Start studying about how to dress, work on your career, build a social circle, and try to live a healthier lifestyle. These things are easier when you're young and will pay dividends when you're older.

DrinksAreOnTheHouse · 2022-06-25T14:33:38+00:00

You are 100% wrong. I dont even need to spend the time explaining. Being attractive is a bonus, but inner game, having confidence, & being purpose-driven are what women are truly attracted to.

Calamity__Bane · 2022-06-25T15:40:49+00:00

You couldn’t be more wrong. Looks open many doors, but game is what allows you to walk through. You’ve clearly never known the frustration of having a ton of initial interest and no idea how to move things forward consistently - girls may like you, but if you don’t know how to capitalize on that, you’re fucked.

sexsex69420irl · 2022-06-25T11:26:03+00:00

You are 100% correct, except handsome is extremely subjective and one woman might find you handsome and others might not.

2022-06-25T14:13:19+00:00

I agree with a lot of what you are saying here. Women tend to vilify or adore someone based on their looks. If an attractive guy is aggressive then he is passionate if a not attractive guy is aggressive he is an incel. But you gotta plow through the bs. Women tend to put you in a box based on your looks and your goal is to ignore all of that trash and do your own thing. I have this friend that I was short and had back problems but girls were really into him and he knew how to carry himself. At first they laughed at him, ridiculed him but he didn't care, he stood up for himself and didn't let them treat him badly. He kept being confident and eventually they were all into him lol. That being said looks are not everything, so work on the things you can change.

bacharelando · 2022-06-25T15:07:51+00:00

But it's not true that women like rude, ignorant or simply dumb men if they're attractive. Of course a handsome dumb man would still get girls but those girls are not worth the effort.

If you want to find a decent woman, someone intelligent, with aspirations in life and someone that will respect you, you also gotta offer those things.

Being handsome can get you laid, but won't get you a good girlfriend/wife.

2022-06-25T15:20:10+00:00

It’s an interesting topic. The one kid who I know who does best with women calls himself ugly and in terms of handsomeness he’s below average but tall. Has really good game. Girls are constantly punching him on the arm and have the bratty sister vibe. Me on the other hand I’m more handsome than him (though shorter) yet have had much less success with women because I don’t have a very good social circle to work from and not as social.

Pinning down the exact mechanism of attraction is difficult for me as a man, but looks are obviously important. However, in terms of my physique I’m in the top 1 percent of men and if I post a shitless photo of me at the beach looking jacked as fuck usually no girls DM me on instagram, sometimes maybe one or two very emotionally damaged girls do. If a girl did that her inbox would be full of DM’s from horny guys. When I directly ask for sex from women who I know are interested in me and who know I’m not a creep will still reject the offer, definitely unlike a man. My point is I believe it’s complicated. Attraction definitely works differently for women, but looks are still very important. Exactly what role they play is hard to pin down for me. Seems to play a gatekeeping role where a woman will give you a chance to play the game and make the game a lot easier if you’re good looking, but with men there is no game. If a hot girl wants to fuck, it takes literally no effort on their part. Different for women, and I know from personal experience that this isn’t related to security or being perceived as a slut. I honestly think a lot of it could be cultural with men and looks because I’ve talked to men who have been around the world and they say things like that in some other countries being a handsome pretty boy is actually a disadvantage and that a real man is considered to be a fat dude with jowls. However, girls have told me that when they date guys their friends think is ugly they will get made fun of quite harshly. I believe women’s perceptions of look are very malleable based on what society tells them is attractive and that it’s not quite as singularly objective like it is for men.

So, on the macroscopic level I can say that yes looks are important, but that attraction works differently for women.

Friendlypotato101 · 2022-06-25T15:59:11+00:00

Honestly I'm not one bit mad at women for this. It makes ZERO sense to hate women for something both genders do.

But at the same time, I really wish I wasn't given false hope. I could've accepted my fate and moved on. But after reading success stories about ugly guys getting amazing partners and indulging in self improvement, I convinced myself that even if I'm not that great in the looks department, I can work on other areas to be attractive. And women will notice the confidence. I was stupid.

If anyone has any advice to cope, I'd appreciate it...

Ag116797 · 2022-06-25T16:04:34+00:00

Facts op game is real but it’s limited and drastically overrated looks is king 👑 when it comes down to sex.

shittyfuckdick · 2022-06-25T16:19:28+00:00

Idk I think it’s mostly my game that makes my dates go badly. I have a pretty decent time getting dates off of apps, but they fall flat when we go out

There’s been times where my looks carried me, but for the most part I think the lack of my game is what turns the girls off. However if I was like super model tier pretty boy I’m sure it wouldn’t matter.

Chicagoj1563 · 2022-06-25T16:22:16+00:00

Good looks will never get you to the promised land. Unfortunately, some guys just refuse to get this. But, looks and game are not discrete items. It's all part of one thing, which is what you present to the world. You can't have good looks without game and expect women to be attracted. They won't be for the most part. There are always 'yes' girls, but outside of that looks will never attract women unless you have a personality that is attractive as well. Tons of good looking losers are out there, for lack of a better word.

I've been good looking all my adult life and I can tell you women aren't going to throw themselves at you because of your looks. It won't happen. There are a few exceptions, mainly from really fit tall guys with good genetics. Think of Sean Connery in the early bond films. If you look like that, yea then it could work. But, focus on communication skills. Its mandatory if you want a dating life and want to be attractive to more than just 'yes' girls.

sportsdude523 · 2022-06-25T16:27:54+00:00

Yeah seriously dude, take Extra_Boysenberry's advice. Life is too short to be a doomer.

You're thinking is way off base. You may be right that there are certain types of women who think the way you described; there are tons who don't. And look for a well packaged man. None of those traits above necessarily describe well packaged person.

You don't want to date the types that do view it the way you described.

Does he have a future? Does he have a job? Does he have ambition? Is he financially stable? How does he treat people? Is he emotionally mature? Is he fun? Can he communicate? How does it feel around him? Is he confident?

Contrary to what you say, all of those thigns I listed have absolutely nothing to do with being good looking.

Jay-Ames · 2022-06-25T17:37:04+00:00

Good looking helps a lot but I think game is more important. Women find me good looking. And I have game. Women forgive things of me easily because I am good looking.

But at one point in time I was just good looking and had zero game. I couldn't get a date. Women ignored me. They didn't want to talk to me. And I was constantly out done by not good looking guys that had game. I am felt like shit back then.

So I say, game is crucial.

hustledontstop · 2022-06-25T17:59:47+00:00

You must be young. At 35 I literally know women who deliberately want older balding men or men who aren't good looking. Why? Because they want a partner who isn't too into themselves or likely to cheat. They just want a good personality, good humour, well paid etc. but looks is literally just one aspect of attractiveness.

Amikatey · 2022-06-25T20:03:08+00:00

This is the most Dumpsh¥t post i've read in ages..

SnooHesitations4922 · 2022-06-25T12:49:30+00:00

How dare you speak absolute truth on the internet!

I know this from my own experience. I was once 300 pounds, and generally had not alot going on, and was generally treated like garbage by many females.

One year I decided to train for sports and lost 100 pounds, got some muscle on me, and being more involved in the community drove me to get the hygiene and dress in check.

Almost all these same females that treated me like a lower form of life one year later took it all back real quick started pouring on the compliments, touching, flirting, some wanted to hook up or start a relationship....

I did nothing to change my attitude, mentality, or personality. I was the exact same person, just happened to be healthier and better looking.

Not only.is being good looking the answear, a drastic and fast positive change in appearance is so powerful it can break the friendzone or even tame female enemies.

jazerac · 2022-06-25T12:32:09+00:00

I am good looking and work out regularly. Definitely in the top 10% of looks.

I can confirm. I don't even really have to try other than approach and make a move. Otherwise, I can talk about whatever I want and they qualify themselves.

After an hour of conversation, I can do whatever I want.

YetzirahToAhssiah · 2022-06-25T12:56:35+00:00

This is not a field report.

I've seen unattractive guys do very well with picking up women.

Mcfusion31 · 2022-06-25T14:53:12+00:00

This sounds like some black pill bullshit game gets you the chick looks help you when you’re on online dating

Phyriel090 · 2022-06-25T13:05:46+00:00

You seem like you made a discovery? You're not aware of that? Everything helps. But yes, the first contact it's about looks. But yes, there hygiene, tall, short, grooming, bla bla

VellaPunk · 2022-06-25T13:56:45+00:00

I'm an above average looking guy, some might say I'm attractive. I get many compliments at workplaces. But i had girlfriend only once, she broke up with me and went with a dude who was not as good looking. The reason is that I'm socially awkward and have a very low self-esteem. With this paralyzing low confidence it's extremely difficult to talk to girls. Girls who are interested in me loose interest when i open my mouth. So I'd say that looks help but in the long run you need strong social skills.

WillyWonker97 · 2022-06-25T14:27:20+00:00

Bullshit... I have a firend who is really looking like a model but he is suuuuper shy. And let's guess how much girls he have.... Suprise suprise just 1592 no just kidding 0.

Zealousideal6669 · 2022-06-25T14:38:04+00:00

Not exactly. I and others consider me good-looking I'm maybe 6-7 so I'm not a typical chad type but I constantly got stares from the public and it's really not a lie. sometimes when I go to talk to a girl being good-looking or being just above average looking is enough and she starts to engage in a conversation but there are times when you're looking all alone is not enough so you have to have a good game as a backup plan if your appearance wants attractive enough at first then you can lift your attraction level higher with your personality. So its fine to have it but its not all about it

yo_saturnalia · 2022-06-25T15:15:08+00:00

This forum is becoming another incel forum with such kinds of posts getting popular. It’s not all about looks - stop passing the buck. One needs to work on their life and themselves , that’s what matters at the end of the day. Passing the buck and endless complaining is not the way I choose to conduct myself.

creamyturtle · 2022-06-25T16:08:39+00:00

same goes with being rich. they will find a way to consider you attractive

TheDeadlyZebra · 2022-06-25T16:48:15+00:00

Obviously, people like good-looking people, but your post reads a bit like incel whining.

newbphil · 2022-06-25T16:48:57+00:00

This is the post that I needed in order to push me to unsub. This sub has officially lost all credibility and usefulness to me. It's so painfully obvious that most of the top-upvoted posts on a day-to-day basis are written by guys who have no clue, and are upvoted by guys who have no clue. This is the perfect upvote-bait post; if you don't know anything on the topic it sounds right, but it's honestly hilariously wrong.

Seriously, good luck to all the guys looking for actual advice here, you're dealing with over half of all content in the sub coming from guys who had a good-sounding shower thought and never actually go out and talk to women.

daproest1 · 2022-06-25T17:11:05+00:00

Good looking man here. False. Your behavior and how u make her feel come before that. Game comes first.

Kronuk · 2022-06-25T17:25:29+00:00

How is this post helping anything? People literally post this shit every single day on this sub now. Where is the discussion of seduction at all? This is getting ridiculous. It’s like an echo chamber for all the whiny kids now.

If you aren’t traditionally good looking in your mind then keep improving yourself, you have no other option but to try. Girls do have different preferences, there’s no one size fits all. We don’t need more men that complain, we need real men who can take action and build themselves and their lives into something great. Positive action.

earsurgery9 · 2022-06-25T18:24:11+00:00

obviously lol

You don't wanna bang a girl who you don't think is hot. Guess what, neither do girls lol. Don't believe the nonsense 'dating coaches' trying to get your money tell you!

Game is the icing on the cake and is something that makes you more efficient at banging the girls who think you are handsome (because believe it or not, it IS possible to mess up with a girl who thinks you're hot, although as you rightly say, you can get away with a LOT, the hotter she thinks you are)

But it's not gonna help you one iota if you're just not her type (looks)

Then-Compote6185 · 2022-06-25T18:39:07+00:00

Not necessarily, people say I am attractive but I am still a virgin at 22

Majestic_Meal_5655 · 2022-06-25T19:17:37+00:00

Having no game means losing her interest quickly.

2022-06-25T19:29:48+00:00

This is true to some extent. But you have to be really really good looking to make this occur.

My brother had a friend in HS who was about a smart as a brick but super hunky. The other guys in the friend group jokingly called him “bait” because all the girls would come to hang out when he was with them. The friend group got the overflow.

But this is the exception. It’s not the rule. Again - unless you’re so good looking that personality has no bearing for some. Lol.

SayJose · 2022-06-25T20:22:58+00:00

At work I see a lot of dudes with girls that consistently have me saying “how” or questioning if I’m just going about it in the wrong way.

For me personally my self esteem has been shattered and while I’m working on it, I consider myself a solid 5 (I have indigenous features, bad skin, am kinda chubby and I’m not tall just to name a few things), I’ve been called a solid 7, but that’s a stretch.

What I’m trying to say is it seems like looks don’t matter when it comes to the people I see in relationships with people I consider attractive, but when it comes to myself, knowing where I’m lacking automatically disqualifies me from talking to girls I find pretty.

VeliVoy · 2022-06-25T12:42:50+00:00

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PrincipleFinal · 2022-06-25T13:56:39+00:00

thats a shallow and inmature way of looking seduction, you need to learn more to actually see the truth that being good looking is only like the 10% of being atractive.

ProductivityMonster · 2022-06-25T14:22:00+00:00

That's not to say having game doesn't help, but it's unlikely to make the difference if she finds you physically unattractive. And we know that women find most men physically unattractive from the OkCupid study.

But obviously you do have the power to become more physically attractive by losing weight, working out, dressing better, etc in addition to practicing your game by hitting on girls repeatedly. Change what you can change and don't worry about the stuff you can't (height, facial structure, etc.).

xUnoriginal · 2022-06-25T14:12:14+00:00

And men like good looking women. Everyone likes good looking people. Why is it that ugly guys get angry when attractive girls don’t like them but these ugly guys also don’t want to date someone on their level? It just baffles me.

EthicalSeduction · 2022-06-25T11:43:45+00:00

There is definitely a decent amount of scientific research backing this statement up, in that your appearance influence the other person's decision making. Also know that while this helps you get your foot in the door, nobody will want to hang out with someone who's an a-hole. Personality wins the marathon race, which is really a good thing.

yiggaman · 2022-06-25T11:22:23+00:00

Women like men, period

tudorcj · 2022-06-25T12:45:07+00:00

So … I just had coffee in a shopping mall for about 1.5 hours and, since I was alone, I chose a table facing the mall entrance and just looked at all the people going in and out. You’re not correct. There are a lot more “ugly” men (fat, bald, way underdressed, not groomed, even sweaty, wearing flip-flops, etc) with beautiful women by their sides. You don’t need to be handsome to get women, you just need to be a fucking proper human being.

I’m fat and I consider myself unattractive and I still get way more attention from women than I ever hoped for: just because I’m not a fucking sociopath and I’m generally a warm person.

Sure, if you look like Ryan Reynolds, you’ll get way more attention than usual, but we can’t all be ryan reynolds. Just be a decent human being, ensure you’ve got proper hygiene and don’t act weird and you’ll be fine.

VeliVoy · 2022-06-25T12:09:50+00:00

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MarduStorm231 · 2022-06-25T15:30:54+00:00

Don’t be a black pill loser. If fucking Hitler can get a girlfriend then everyone can.

Only_Commercial_774 · 2022-06-25T16:21:19+00:00

Game is the most important factor, you can have nothing except for game and you’ll still be better than all those guys you mentioned

The_James_Bond · 2022-06-25T19:21:09+00:00

I’m handsome and yet I’ve been maidenless for years. Physical attraction is a minor thing. Having game and an entertaining personality is also good. The main thing is going out and meeting singles or those that are DTF

thebigfishstick17 · 2022-06-25T12:18:34+00:00

The most attractive girls will still leave the club with a fat short ugly dude over the handsome in shape guy if the fat short ugly guy has more money and status. That’s what matters to women in 2022. The sooner you realize that the better. Get in shape and get your money up. Don’t take gear if you’re not looking to get a pro card

TheMorningJoe · 2022-06-25T11:53:30+00:00

100% spot on

VeliVoy · 2022-06-25T10:45:54+00:00

Oh, sweetheart, you’ve got it all backwards.

EsCastle · 2022-06-25T13:01:32+00:00

Women like confident men. End of.

Mmm91for · 2022-06-25T13:08:41+00:00

Game triumphs all

missargentina29 · 2022-06-25T21:30:08+00:00

Totally disagree! I hate pretty boys- men need to be so ugly they’re cute- like dogs and puppies.

BackyardByTheP00L · 2022-06-25T12:56:01+00:00

There are millions of men who get women who aren't 'handsome'. Good grooming, having a personal style, being fit and clean goes a long way. Even more important is your personality. Having a sense of humor, hobbies you enjoy, interest in what she cares about ( at least asking questions), and being polite to others. If a woman sees you snap at a waitress on a date then you call the waitress a bitch when she walks away...well, then, unofficially, the date's over.

AlphabeticalMedical · 2022-06-25T13:07:10+00:00

This exactly the opposite of the point you’re trying to make. Girls like guys with game. Being handsome is a bonus

lokipoki30 · 2022-06-25T13:25:13+00:00

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bastito8431 · 2022-06-25T13:30:36+00:00

Wrap a shitty gift with beautiful paper, it's still a shitty gift.

splugemonster · 2022-06-25T13:34:10+00:00

Im ugly as fuck and my girlfriends hot. Good credit helps

maxpossimpible · 2022-06-25T14:21:10+00:00

Yes but you just push the envelope... So instead of hitting on 6s you hit on 8s, 9s, and 10s...

_archi · 2022-06-25T14:33:52+00:00

Looks don't matter much but personality and confidence does.

pbourree · 2022-06-25T14:55:46+00:00

I think I like being who I am. Quite yet mysterious, funny and outgoing once you get me chatting but I am not at all ugly by any means. I had lots of women looking at me the other day as I went to the sky train. I felt kinda empowered and confident.

adrianitoninesixty · 2022-06-25T15:05:16+00:00

I’m the most attractive guy i’ve seen and i’ve been exchanged by ugly guys so many times IN FRONT OF ME😹 it’s them lose anyways😏

drgreen987 · 2022-06-25T15:13:45+00:00

Cry less and work more. i just saw a 48 year old bold below average guy pull a dime and married her (she in her 20s). You can sit on your ass and complain and make excuses or take action simple as that

UrbanDevice · 2022-06-25T15:19:50+00:00

It depends in what you look for. If you only look for casual stuff being good looking is the only thing you need yes. But if you want to date the girl longer your game needs to be good aswell.

Mog_Melm · 2022-06-25T15:31:50+00:00

Cope and seethe.

Negus_Jeff · 2022-06-25T15:54:36+00:00

True, there are some vegetables bagging 10s.

rjones416 · 2022-06-25T16:32:24+00:00

just like others have said i see average and even fat/ugly guys out on dates with good looking women ALL the time.

even if you are good looking im assuming you want a good looking girl right? well guess what? unless you live in the middle of no where that good looking girl is getting hit on by many good looking guys with game. you better have it together or you're just gonna be settling for the ok looking chicks that are just happy to talk to you.

suitcasecity · 2022-06-25T16:48:14+00:00

Not rly true

v_sitaram_j · 2022-06-25T17:10:02+00:00

This is what we call the black p...

arckyart · 2022-06-25T17:16:16+00:00

Lol is this from a man’s perspective? Because a good personality will take you way farther with women than looks alone

Memin93 · 2022-06-25T17:35:29+00:00

Facts. The same as men like attractive women.

sujaneiro2608 · 2022-06-25T18:26:50+00:00

Im guilty 😭,,, tall , handsome and very career oriented and so sweet ...Just too bad that i got ghosted after sex... I ignored all flags almost blind ... But i was with a lot of not handsome guys too .. But this guy really burnt all my brain...

Pure-Baseball-900 · 2022-06-25T18:37:58+00:00

Reminds me of the radio conversation when the Costa Concordia was sinking and De Falco (coastguard) was ordering the captain (Schettino) to go back on the ship lol

Schettino: "But do you realise it is dark and here we can't see anything …"

De Falco: "And so what? You want to go home, Schettino? It is dark and you want to go home? Get on that prow of the boat using the pilot ladder and tell me what can be done, how many people there are and what their needs are. Now!"

The knowledge that others have it better does not change your life in anyway. You can either do something about it or cry that it's dark

Read this somewhere in a church but I guess is the only way to move forward

“God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference.”

SettingIntentions · 2022-06-25T18:49:37+00:00

What? Dude get off Reddit... Personality, vibe, etc. is way more important than pure looks (though a nice presentation is always preferable). Behavior is so important. So much of a man's attractiveness is within his own attitude, behavior, and actions (and who he becomes as a result of this). We have the power to be better, do better, and get better.

Bonoechelon · 2022-06-25T19:03:10+00:00

Lol bs, it's 100% the other way around

2022-06-25T19:05:57+00:00

Agreed, I don't know why people keep denying looks don't matter when they do

Off2damoon · 2022-06-25T19:11:55+00:00

I agree with you that being "good looking" matters but only to an extent. Looks, much like any other aspect of your characteristics are highly subjective, relative, and a viarable factor - NOT binary.

For example: You can be in the upper middle class but not filthy rich. You can have a great health record and be in shape but would get booed off stage at a Mr. Universe competition. You can have a lot of good friends but not be famous. You can be very intelligent but never win a Nobel Prize.

No different is the quality of "looks". You can be good looking but not a male model. You can equally be less good looking than the man to your right but much more handsome than the man to your left.

Each quality adds upon the rest. If you are severally lacking in one department, the other variables are there to pick up the slack. The ugly man who's wealthy, charismatic, intelligent, with a strong social circle will get more women than the highly attractive man without any other qualities. Do not make the mistake of believing somehow this one quality, looks, somehow trumps all other qualities.

The secret sauce here is that you must be actively working to improve ALL of these qualities to the best possible outcome, continuously. Much like Tony Robins says (roughly paraphrasing here) but: life is like a bicycle tire and each spoke represents a factor in your life; love, wealth, health, experiences, family, friends, career, etc. You need to try keeping each spoke as equal as possible for if you neglect too many your tire will stop spinning.

mysterypurplesock · 2022-06-25T19:20:21+00:00

Uh…..not exactly……

rudebwoy100 · 2022-06-25T21:29:15+00:00

Yea because there's hordes of Chads and Tyrones in this world getting all the women and if you struggle with women it's because you're average looking or below.........

2022-06-25T23:41:18+00:00

What constitutes as good looking? I think what we think of beauty has been changing all throughout history. I mean, the western ideal standards are super fucked for everyone. I know for women it is always being thin, having long hair, having light/tanned skin, having big breasts, big butt, small waist, large eyes, a small nose, and high cheekbones. This of course wasn’t always the case. You’re taught what is handsome too and so we’re all conditioned. I literally am in love with someone I see as handsome but you probably will think is ugly. I’ve dated some guys my friends would not and they’ve dated some I would not. So it’s all personal taste that develops differently for individuals but there is a standard pushed in society and for that, I’m sorry.. It’s like, everyone already acknowledges the beauty standards we abide by. but the point isn’t to point out that someone doesn’t abide by a standard but to like that person despite the standard. Because when standards are placed on beauty, then it is not attainable for everyone. If the standard of beauty is white people, then anyone of any other skin color does not meet that requirement. So they’re deemed unattractive? So they’re all called ugly because of somebody else’s shitty opinion? Someone else’s rules that nobody agreed to? Like, you’re supposed to fight against beauty standards and like people for more than the surface level. There is no council of women that decide what handsome is. We all have different tastes in people. It’s not one fits all. That’s stereotyping.

Previous_Shake_9484 · 2022-06-26T08:44:55+00:00

I bet even Albert Einstein wouldn’t know how to treat today’s women.

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