Mods at /r/AskReddit are standing their ground when dealing with SRS. This is what prompted the "askreddit mods are not your mommies and daddies" thread.

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I am starting to get confused. Manhoodacademy has to be one of the dumbest things I have seen in a while. Well then again, there is also SRS. Poe's law has never been more applicable. People literally cant tell who the trolls are and who is serious.

Manhood academy has some TEXTBOOK about something, and I flipped through it wondering who in their right mind would take the time to assemble a thousand page pdf of blabber. Then it hit me. Either this person is not of sound mind or it is a joke. It could always be a hybrid of the two.

I guess my question is, are there people in SRS who legitimately take offense to things, or are they just people squawking for attention? What amazes me most about SRS is that they dont just UNSUBSCRIBE from the subreddits they dont like. They ACTIVLY go out of their way to read posts they "don't like" so they can chat about them. To me that is the same as repressed homosexual homophobes. They secretly love the stuff, but talk shit to appear like they are better than the scum they decry against. (I am in no way comparing homosexuals to scum, please don't read too far into that sentence.)

IF SRS sees this: Learn how to fucking use reddit. Unsubscribe from the subs you dont like. Don't look at them. Here are some subs you can subscribe to that may be of more interest than policing the internets. Get over yourselves.

http://www.reddit.com/r/dubstep+electronicmusic+DnB+trance+mashups+electrohouse+futurebeats+treemusic+gamemusic
http://www.reddit.com/r/realdubstep+futuregarage+House+chiptunes+swinghouse+ambientmusic
http://www.reddit.com/r/idm+mixes+experimentalmusic+psytrance+chillmusic+darkstep+Techno+triphop+glitch+minimal+breakcore+Complextro+hardstyle+proghouse+futurefunkairlines+moombahton+electro+industrialmusic+grime+breakbeat+purplemusic+happyhardcore+drumstep+ElectronicJazz
http://www.reddit.com/r/Glitchop+fidget+scene+Psybient+raggajungle+filth+tech_house+house_music+dub+darkdnb+NuDisco+deathstep+downtempo+UKFunky+funkhouse+electronicdancemusic+liquiddnb+headnodders+Skweee+filthstep+chillwave+gabber+witch_house+garage+frenchelectro+disco+uplifting+MINIMALTECH+noisemusic+Electropop+Cyberpunk_Music
http://www.reddit.com/r/futurebeatproducers+PsyBreaks+bassmusic+ElectronicaLounge+makenoise+italodisco+NewAgeMusic+FrenchHouse+progressivetrance+footwork+acidjazz+hardhouse+AcidHouse+Moombahcore+minimaljazz+dubstyle+NeuroFunk+drumfunk+chillout+Classictrance+Dubtechno+minimaltechno+FusionDanceMusic+BeatDrops+bootybass+SynthPop+deephousemusic+technomusic+seapunk+autonomic+Sambass http://www.reddit.com/r/groovesharkplaylists+djs+spotify+mixcd+pirateradio

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Pro tip: If you use Reddit Enhancement Suite Reddit Enhancement Suite Reddit Enhancement Suite you can +DASHBOARD each link. This effectivly allows you to subscribe to hundreds and hundreds of subreddits while keeping it organized by topic and size of community. I can only hope this post goes down in history as the one that destroyed SRS by giving them something better to talk about.

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Hi, we know how to view multiple subs at once and how to subscribe and unsubscribe. You're thinking that we're all new users who are raging at r/all because we don't know where to find the "quality" subs. No, unlike you and people like you, we chose to not ignore all of the bigoted, creepy, misogynistic, transphobic, unsettling, racist, and homophobic things we see. Many of us have been here for years. We don't hide from it, we highlight very highly upvoted posts from major subs that most users on this site see. As many people here don't even register, and if they register, they don't comment or vote. We look at Reddit as the rest of the internet sees it and hold up all of the shit that flies in the face of how Reddit sells itself, a progressive, welcoming, altruistic community full of intellectuals. So, until Reddit stops thinking that it is, or actually starts acting like it, we won't be going anywhere. Sorry.

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See this kind of thing doesnt make sense

So, until Reddit stops thinking that it is, or actually starts acting like it, we won't be going anywhere.

Reddit is a platform. You will always get EVERY type of opinion. Reddit is not single hive mind like we pretend it is. Reddit will never stop getting posts that make us uncomfortable. That is why the admins invented the hide button.

SRS Says: If reddit can boast that some acts of philanthropic altruism are representative of all reddit (when obviously not all redditors were involved in those good works), there is no reason reddit should not also be held accountable for fostering an environment that encourages upvoting bigoted comments.

The thing is, people who say "Reddit accomplished something" are just sorta wrong. Two wrongs DONT make a right. Neither is representative of the community as a whole, only those who participate.

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But when was the last time an admin made a nigger joke or a senior member of staff engaged in any of the sexism[1], homophobia, racism or any other charge that SRS levels at the entire reddit universe? The leadership of the site is not the same as the community, and reddit has so many communities that need not necessarily mix or share ideology and standards that to make the claim that you and the rest of SRS do seems flawed at best and absurd at worst. Or, to spin another line of thought, even if 60% or 70% of a community laughed at a nigger joke or upvoted it or condoned it but still contributed towards helping the orphanage, then what then? Where would the moral outrage be directed?

[1] It's interesting to note sexism as something SRS finds so abhorrent considering the frequent views against males made there. It is my opinion that the moral crusader angle played by SRS is a veneer; you don't care about the things you claim to, you just want to be self-righteous. And there's evidence of this in the instant shutdown of anyone who tries to call SRS on it via bans.

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But when was the last time an admin made a nigger joke or a senior member of staff engaged in any of the sexism[1], homophobia, racism or any other charge that SRS levels at the entire reddit universe?

It's all of us that act as Reddit, we all represent the site to outside sources and to new users attempting to learn the culture. It's not just the staff that the media talks about, as CNN has shown us.

Or, to spin another line of thought, even if 60% or 70% of a community laughed at a nigger joke or upvoted it or condoned it but still contributed towards helping the orphanage, then what then? Where would the moral outrage be directed?

You can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't cut a check for a needy child, and then turn around and crack a nigger joke without anyone calling out the hypocrisy of it all. Also, we get told constantly that people are actually trying to be offensive, and we respond with yeah well then you'll have no problem with us calling you what you set out to be.

It's interesting to note sexism as something SRS finds so abhorrent considering the frequent views against males made there.

Part of the circlejerk is to turn it around on the majority and see how they like it. Violence against women, slut jokes, "women logic" you name it is laughed at and upvoted all over the place here, but as soon as you put the shoe on the foot of the average straight, white male Redditor, it ceases being funny, and that's the point we're trying to make.

you don't care about the things you claim to, you just want to be self-righteous. And there's evidence of this in the instant shutdown of anyone who tries to call SRS on it via bans.

Oh, we very deeply care, and are called trolls for honestly expressing our beliefs. And the bans are to keep out derailing, and mostly people seeking to get a rile out of us, telling us how happy they are that "a bunch of fat cunts and queer manginas care about them". For those not doiing so, the sidebar very clearly states that it's a circlejerk for our own amusement as minorities who are sick of taking shit. Either you join in, or are banned, there are separate places such as r/SRSDiscussion if you care to engage a debate.

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I can tell you personally that SRS has engaged in no false flagging, we are much too concerned about getting banned both as individuals and losing the sub. We work within the rules, believe it or not, and admins have checked things internally to confirm this. We are not here to attack Reddit and make it look any worse than it already is, there is no need to skew voting or have any false flag operations when Redditors are doing these things themselves. And like any group, as you mentioned within r/mensrights, there will a few bad apples that do things you may not agree with. I don't agree with my fellow white people parodying angry minorities when some go around shouting "kill whitey", I don't feel that has any benefit even if they may mean well in trying to illustrate how awful racism can feel to Reddit which is predominantly white.

And as you can see, many of us do engage, here I am talking to an MRA politely and actually having a discussion. All SRSers are like this, I have had some of the most wonderful discussions with people that Reddit has termed trolls. It's just when we're dismissed and ignored that we have little recourse than to form a circle and laugh at our in-jokes instead of pulling our hair out.

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You can't cut a check for a needy child, and then turn around and crack a nigger joke without anyone calling out the hypocrisy of it all.

You absolutely can. Why? Because the concern reddit has is with people actually suffering, not getting offended. A joke is ultimately harmless. Starvation or a lack of shelter or a medical condition is not.

Violence against women, slut jokes, "women logic" you name it is laughed at and upvoted all over the place here, but as soon as you put the shoe on the foot of the average straight, white male Redditor, it ceases being funny, and that's the point we're trying to make.

But that really isn't an efficient way of articulating your point. You think Gandhi would've been more successful if he's started slitting British throats? You think MLK would be fondly remembered and so influential if he's embraced the thuggishness of Malcolm X? When you advocate one thing and do the other, you appear to be a hypocrite, so you automatically get written off, even if you have a legitimate point (which generally never holds with SRS).

there are separate places such as r/SRSDiscussion if you care to engage a debate.

But they turn out not to be any better. I recall one fellow being banned from it for raising a question as whether or not the patriarchy exists in the present.

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{I dont want to ruin my own circlejerk before it starts BUT I may have lied a little. SRS is stupid but I find it very funny and entertaining. You guys are a hoot. That being said, even very experienced redditors dont know about many of those subs. I thought I would throw you guys a bone and show you some of the more interesting parts of reddit I have found. I by no means want SRS to end, but it would possibly be even more entertaining if you jerked in the geekier subreddits instead of concentrating on mensrights and such. That way your entire day isnt spent reading poop. I figured the only way to get your attention was to be a butthole and say something mean about SRS.}

BACK TO CIRCLEJERKING!

No, unlike you and people like you, we chose to not ignore all of the bigoted, creepy, misogynistic, transphobic, unsettling, racist, and homophobic things we see.

You say that as if it is a bad thing. You are not actually changing peoples minds, in fact you are probably only helping them make their beliefs more concrete. It is fine if you want to call it out, I personally find it to be a slight waste of time, compared to I dunno, reading about space and nanobots. I have no problem with you concentrating on those topics, but there is more to reddit than poop and a lot of people seem to believe SRS doesnt know that. I am unsure because SRS is such a well acted out jerk of circle proportions, it has become a near perfect example of poe's law.

EDIT: I guess my one criticism of SRS is that it seems to fly in the face of "the streisand effect." Offtopic but heck, I think they should rename it the Rakolta Effect. She started a letter campaign against Married with Children, and succeeded in making the show much more popular. Oops. Calling attention to something bad that you dont want people to see usually just makes more people see it and makes everything worse. If SRS is a parody and the users dont actually care if people are saying racist/whatever stuff, then it makes sense. If they truly hate sexist/bigoted/etc stuff it is best NOT to call attention to it. The FAQ makes it pretty clear though "Being a downvote brigade would ruin the fun." SRS does not actually care about being PC, they just like reading poop. Another FAQ gem. "it probably encourages people to post more outrageous comments in the hope they will make it into the SRS hall-of-fame. Honestly, good! It would keep our subreddit active." See SRS doesn't care about racist/etc stuff, they ENJOY reading it. What do you call a person who LIKES reading racist/homophobic stuff? For them, it is fun to find assholes and mock them. It sort of seems like a bully bullying another bully. Do two wrongs make a right? To each their own I suppose.

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