What do you think of this advice for how to be in the top 5% of men?

AlysArria · 2023-03-09T20:15:54+00:00

That advice would improve any person, in general. There is much you can't control in life, the important part is accepting that and focusing on what you can control. You may never hit "top 5% of men," rather, you can become the best version of yourself and that's all anyone can reasonably ask for.

NockerJoe · 2023-03-09T20:17:32+00:00

Theres literally thousands of wannabe masciline influencer jackoffs on twitter and they all give some variation of the same spiel.

You need to ask what exactly the top 5% even is. Are we talking about 5% in a random college classroom? The best out of 20 guys on a random bus? The top of every guy on Tinder? The hottest dude in a random mid sized bar? Those are all very different questions to ask.

tvear · 2023-03-09T20:13:37+00:00

This is RP 101. TRP says that most average schmucks are overweight losers with no drive or ambition who do nothing but smoke weed, jerk off, and play videogames in their spare time. 5% is a huge exaggeration though and there are a lot more guys now who are getting in shape and grooming better so I think things are changing quickly. Obviously everyone has certain genetic advantages or disadvantages but beyond that most guys make very little effort.

This advice misses what makes a guy fun, exciting, and interesting to women though. It's a little off because some guys who follow this too literally will end up the stereotypical stoic, tradcon, gymbro who is boring and basic af.

Safinated · 2023-03-09T20:14:18+00:00

Do you even know what the top 5% of men means? Because I kind of think you don’t

greyman0425 · 2023-03-09T21:44:46+00:00

He is full of it. If you are not born into that 5% tier, no amount of work and success will overcome genetics. If she is settling for you, she will resent you.

Now improving your life for you is a good thing.

Mobrowncheeks · 2023-03-09T20:09:59+00:00

Just take anything That anyone says like this , and apply it to a balding 30 year old who’s 5’6.

See how top 5% ( 5% of what exactly ) that makes him

rodeopete3281 · 2023-03-09T20:50:33+00:00

Considering that 75% of men in America couldn't pass a military PT test, I'd say you're right.

Holden_Frame · 2023-03-09T22:08:07+00:00

Lol absolute nonsense.

At best you can hope to be a top 20% man by doing these things if you have the following things going against you:

Short
Bald / Balding
Undesired ethnicity
Shitty face / recessed chin / etc

Further, the above advice is just fucking dumb on its face because merely "lifting weights" doesn't put you there, lifting weights for years on end while dialing in your nutrition perfectly is what does it.

Then we have "have a meaningful purpose". Again, wtf does that even mean? You could be great at Magic The Gathering and even make a good living at it. That isn't dropping a single pair of panties.

And "smell good"? JFC. "Just wear cologne bro!"

Fancy-Respect8729 · 2023-03-09T21:12:07+00:00

I don't know what top 5% means tbh. Considering half population are dumb as bricks and plenty are unavailable pretty sure he's right whatever it means.

Doesthisevenmatter7 · 2023-03-09T22:35:15+00:00

The problem is they don’t actually define what top 5% actually is and any advice besides get fit and get rich is pretty much useless.

Secret-Body-8926 · 2023-03-09T23:28:22+00:00

The problem is competing gets exponentially harder the more specific your aims become.

Top 5% of all men in all ages? Just being in your 20s puts you in the top 15%. However those guys aren't in the dating market.

Top 5% of young actively pursuing single men looking for hookups and relationships? I'd wager half of those men do the things described. Lifting weights is basically an entrance requirement to modern dating culture. Doing all those things puts you in the top 50% at best among young men. To get to the top 5%, you need to have some standout trait or a mixture of lots of above average traits.

Lucr3tius · 2023-03-09T20:10:55+00:00

The bit about "having a meaningful purpose" just means figure out how to make a lot of money. The prescription is essentially acknowledging that accumulating resources is a large part of attracting a woman, and you should be in that process figuring out how to accumulate resources. The deception is that being in that process puts you in the top 5%, when in reality completing that process successfully is what does it. Not all men are capable of completing the process.

As is often said, men run the race (having a meaningful purpose)... women wait at the finish line and fuck the winners. Emphasis on "The Finish Line"

HuckleberryBig3420 · 2023-03-09T20:14:23+00:00

Depends how you define the top 5%. Top 5% of men in your area, in the USA, in your age group, etc. Also top 5% of what exactly? Looks, body fat percentage, income, personality, etc.

The only metric that I think is actually traceable as good 5% is an income of above $340k and I really don’t think that’s easy for most men. Plus that’s taking all of the US as a sample.

Thatshygurl · 2023-03-09T20:45:36+00:00

I don’t think he was saying that doing those things(dressing well, smelling good and lifting weights) would propel you to the top.

However, I think he was saying it doesn’t take being in the top to attract a partner.

Weird_Slice4439 · 2023-03-09T22:04:45+00:00

I don't know about 5%, but it helps. You can go from a tubby 5 to a 7.

katyushas_boyfriend · 2023-03-09T22:25:31+00:00

Height and face are more important than muscle.

RocinanteCoffee · 2023-03-09T23:53:49+00:00

I think 'Sterling Cooper' is just a reference to the advertising firm on the show "Mad Men" which was about unhappy marriages, and fucked up dating lives, heh.

babastart · 2023-03-09T20:10:14+00:00

Be tall or limb lengthening.

PMmeareasontolive · 2023-03-09T20:37:33+00:00

It could make a huge difference. The weight that people put on first impressions is insane.

LupeDyCazari · 2023-03-09T21:42:15+00:00

how unattractive and disgusting and boring are most people these days that a guy who dresses well, smells good and lifts weight and doesn't have a problem dealing with rejection, thus he's not afraid of approaching women, and have a goal in life - somehow is in the top 5%?

Here I was thinking I was just an average guy, because I look pretty much the same as every other guy around, but turns out I'm a Chad and I just never realized it. You guys think I can score a Saudi Arabian Princess as a wife?

'Cause women resist Chads, right?

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gate18 · 2023-03-09T20:15:06+00:00

The person that said that doesn't know percentages.

Personally, I'd say those 5 things would improve any man significantly. I'm not sure that it's a magic formula or anything. But, sure...exercising and dressing well would help any man.

No shit, but 5%?! nope

I never heard of Sterling Cooper, I just googled him. Technically, he "wan" he made you share his name

AntiHypergamist · 2023-03-09T20:27:48+00:00

That guys last name has an extra letter lmao

THHBHStT · 2023-03-09T20:45:04+00:00

When looking to be “Chad” “top 20%” and all the other terms there’s no step by step guide nor is it something that actually has a set definition. Nor should it be, you should never want to live the life of someone else

If you do all of those things listed by sterling Cooper, undoubtedly your life will be better, which is what matters. Your life goals will be far easier to obtain doing the things he listed but you have to do the things you love to find real satisfaction to your “top 20%” beyond that point

wtknight · 2023-03-09T21:09:08+00:00

Those things that he lists all take discipline, and not a lot of people have discipline. So it’s more difficult than he makes it seem.

MrQuiteLimited9 · 2023-03-09T21:44:10+00:00

Money has to factor in here somewhere

JasenBorne · 2023-03-09T22:14:40+00:00

"It doesn't take much to be in the top 5% of men. Dress well. Smell good. Lift weights. Don't be a pussy. Have a meaningful purpose."

LMFAO no!! unless he thinks 95% of men are just pieces of crap. holy shit, that's all it takes to me in the top 5%?? smell nice??

EDIT: The top 5% seems too narrow. What if it said top 25%?

no you're looking at this the wrong way; all that stuff won't even get you a job interview. you need to be able to talk to people, do something with your life to put on your CV. meaningful purpose?? what the hell does that mean. most women would rather have money.

14ers4days · 2023-03-09T22:35:43+00:00

The top 5% is subjective. Just date around a lot to improve your odds of finding the pot to your lid.

AstronautLoveShack · 2023-03-09T22:43:24+00:00

Sterling Cooper is a Mad Men reference.

Lovers691 · 2023-03-09T23:27:03+00:00

Lol, Bell cooper is still posting. No that won’t make you top 5% of men for SMV, especially when facial aesthetics are not considered that being said if you are average looking and do all that shit plus skincare you can be top 20-30 percent of men SMVwise.

AssistTemporary8422 · 2023-03-09T23:31:04+00:00

What it comes down to is looks, dating skills, money, status, environment, and initiating. There are limits to how high we go from our genetics and circumstances so most guys can't get into the top 5% no matter how hard they try. But most guys can make it into the top 25% but it takes a lot of self-improvement.

Honest-Analysis-6127 · 2023-03-09T23:42:54+00:00

I don't know about that "5%" jargon, or whatever top percent number they wanna throw out there, but everything that was mentioned in that post will put you in a position to attract more females. All written in a concise manner. Women love a man who looks healthy, works out an has a greater purpose. If all men followed that guideline then all men would be in the top "100%"

Visual-Possible-3239 · 2023-03-10T00:34:30+00:00

There is no magic formula. However, from experience, I can say that the most effective way to make yourself attractive to women (in addition to being in shape and having good hygiene), is to be confident, and comfortable in your own skin.

Women (and people in general) like to be around people that are relaxed, that are generally positive, that do not make them uncomfortable. In a word, be likeable. Don't be an asshole. But at the same time, do not be desperate, be authentic, and try to find people that make you feel good too (friends, potential dates and people you read or follow). If you feel good, if you are comfortable with yourself, then you will be attractive. If you are interested in someone, say so, be honest, but also be ready to walk if things don't go your way.

Another tip, really listen to the person you are interested in instead of just waiting for your turn to talk. Talk about them, and a bit about you. Try to find common ground. Be ready to laugh at yourself. But also, be assertive and clear about what you want, without trying to force the issue. Either the woman is attracted to you or not, and if she's not, no amount of weight lifting, cologne, clothes, etc., is going to change that.

Find your niche. Be interesting, but also interested. That should easily make you more attractive than 90% of men.

SkookumTree · 2023-03-10T02:21:57+00:00

That's a crock of shit if you aren't good looking or short.

Would you call a Special Forces officer that speaks four languages fluently "top 5%"? Not if he's 5'4".

MistyMaisel · 2023-03-10T02:54:14+00:00

I would say this is true, yes.

Swordfromthecement · 2023-03-10T03:31:49+00:00

The bar is low but it’s not that low. I will always err on the side of self-improvement although i believe it’s effects are exaggerated

roger61962 · 2023-03-10T08:47:48+00:00

The top 5% is to broad. Aim for 1% at least.

JoeRMD77 · 2023-03-10T12:23:58+00:00

Being in the top 5% of men sounds expensive, I think I'm good.

shadowrangerfs · 2023-03-10T14:28:15+00:00

NO. Those thing will improve your dating prospects. But they won't put you in the top 5% of men.

It's not accounting for the things that are out of your control like height.

It also doesn't account for how much money you make.

Being in the top 5% of men requires some good luck genetics wise.

No_Cricket_2824 · 2023-03-10T19:13:26+00:00

Don't care about being a top 5 percent as its not needed to have a fulfilling life .

Title	What do you think of this advice for how to be in the top 5% of men?
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Date	March 9, 2023 8:06 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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